PipeChat Digest #178 - Sunday, December 28, 1997 Hook organ, Mechanics Hall, Worcester by Judy A. Ollikkala <email@example.com> Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart by John L. Speller <firstname.lastname@example.org> Fall Crawl - long by Judy A. Ollikkala <email@example.com> Re: Let it snow! by FireAlarmz <FireAlarmz@aol.com> Re: 1997 Small Organ Challenge by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Re: Let it snow! by bruce cornely <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: PipeChat Digest #177 - 12/27/97 by Robert Shumway <email@example.com> PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off topic. by Dr. Peter G. Pocock <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off topic. by <email@example.com> Re: PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off topic. by <firstname.lastname@example.org> RELet it snow! by Duncan Charig <email@example.com>
(back) Subject: Hook organ, Mechanics Hall, Worcester From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 10:26:00 -0500 The Hook organ was used for the Processional during the Boys Choir of Harlem concert on Tuesday which was televised on ABC Nightline. I agree with Bruce, the organ does not have enough exposure to the public, after being restored, although it did for a while. Now it gets a recital on Brown Bag lunch concerts about three times a year, and otherwise only occasionally.
(back) Subject: Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart From: "John L. Speller" <email@example.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 10:13:06 -0600 (CST) At 11:20 PM 12/26/97 -0500, Joe wrote: >> And what is love? >> >> Ah, yes, but there are still concrete ways to describe "musicality." What >> does it mean when someone says "S/he's so musical!"? >> >> --shirley > >I have always felt that this refers to the performance having "emotion" >and "heart" in the music. This would certainly exclude those who seem >intent on playing something so dead on as written -- without any room >for interpretation -- in other words BORING!!! > >Music must be FELT!!! > >Music must make the LISTENER feel!!! We are very fortunate in our parish in having a Minister of Music who is a wonderful musician. It is difficult to know quite what this means. It somehow seems to be different from saying that she is a good organist or a good choir director, and indeed in my naughtier moments I tend to introduce her to people as, "One of the few organists around who is a musician." <g> Actually, in terms of technical accomplishment she is not one of the world's great organists, although what she can play she plays very well. Besides playing the organ and directing the choir, she is a semi-professional soprano, and has a bachelor's degree in music education, and an M.A. in piano performance. Perhaps being not too narrowly focused is one thing that makes her a musician. Certainly one aspect of what is musical about her is that she plays with great warmth and feeling. She can also do the most amazing things with the choir in the simplest pieces of music. But in one sense it seems that she is as much a vehicle for the music as anything else. She doesn't play the music, the music seems to take over and play through her. By the way, I heard the Boston Pops in Nantucket last summer and I thought they were great fun. Seasons Greetings, John.
(back) Subject: Fall Crawl - long From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 11:42:28 -0500 Of interest to some may be a description of the Columbus Day pipe organ crawl, my tenth year in a row, for the Worcester Mass. Chapter, AGO, it= has taken off like a firecracker with more people every year!! We must b= e doing something right! I am off to Florida for some R&R on Monday morni= ng for a week and a half after a busy year! If any comments, please post to= me privately, as I will be off the lists temporarily. Judy Ollikkala December 26,1997 The Worcester Chapter, AGO, sponsored its 16th annual "Fall Crawl" on Columbus Day, October 13,1997, with 147 people and three buses traveling to the Narragansett Bay area of Rhode Island. Phillips Memorial Baptist Church in Cranston was the first= stop, with Peter Krasinski demonstrating a Cavaille-Coll model two manual tracker built in 1985 b= y Daniel Angerstein. The organ was modeled in great detail, and as exactly as possible, after similar sized instruments of 100 plus years ago in France. The console was exceptionally attractive as we= ll as functional, and the acoustics were adequate, while not approaching the French spaces for reverberation. We moved on to East Greenwich, situated on the west side of the Bay, to Westminster Unitarian Church, where Richard Hill put the 1992 Roche Organ Company one-manual tracker through a delightful program. This small organ has all stops on a divide= d compass, for much = diversity. Pastor Fred Gillis, a veteran crawl-goer, had invited us to visit his church several years ago, and was so happy to finally host our crawl. One of Richard Hill=92s pieces was "Wondrous Love" by David Johnson. This was repeated that afternoon on a large 3 manual Casavant, giving us a treat to hear the same tune on two very different instruments. We rode across the two long bridges spanning the Bay connecting Jamestown Island to the mainland, viewing sailboats, lighthouses, harbors, and church steeples under a clear blue sky with the sun shining on the waves. Newport beckoned with its old houses and ornat= e mansions (summer cottages for the elite of a century ago). After lunch we strolled down t= he hill to the Newport Congregational Church. UMass/Dartmouth student Andrew Galuska accompanie= d a rousing hymn, "God of Our Fathers", on a gorgeous 1866 large 2 manual E.& G.G Hook in a= highly decorated interior designed and executed by famous artist John LaFarge in 1882, now sadly in need of restoration, with fund-raising begu= n. Excerpts from Reubke=92s Sonata were played, and then Chapter member Davi= d Hagberg accompanied an old and odd hymn entitled, " A Hundred Years Hence." A two block walk along narrow colonial Spring Street took us to St. Mary=92s, the oldest Roman Catholic parish in the state, containing a 1958 Casavant-Freres Ltee. electro-pneumatic three manual organ in the gallery. Organist James Cassarino gave us a demonstration which included, besides the David Johnson piece, enjoyable short works by Callahan, Couperin, Erbe, Quehl, and Fonder. A highlight of the day, for many people, was the Chapel at St. George=92s Episcopal School in Middletown, with a large 1963 Austin expertly played by James Wallace, = Director of Music. He gave an interesting talk on the origins of the chapel and its furnishing= s, and the history of the organs, ending with current and planned renovations to the Austin, and recent ceiling acoustical work completed this past summer. His renditions included Wagner=92s "Tannhaus= er March" using the reeds, a lovely quiet "Elegie" by Thalben-Ball, and a superb "B-A-C-H" by Liszt,= = What a wonderful setting for a boarding school, with two long beaches within walking distance! The day ended with an interesting visit to Belcourt Castle on Bellevue Avenue, built by Oliver Hazard Belmont in 1894 at a cost (then) of 3 million. It is now owned by= the Harold Tinney family, who have restored it and filled it with treasures of art, furniture, silver, etc. and two E.& G.G. Hook pipe organs originally in Providence. We had a tour of the mansion, then= silver tea in the Imperial banquet room, followed by an organ demonstration by Lois Toeppner of the= 1864 Hook organ in the upstairs ballroom. Mrs. Tinney graciously invited all in the group to return and play the organ at another time. Mrs. Toeppner, Chair of the Region I 1999 AGO Convention t= o be held in Worcester, ended the day by playing selections by Bach, Mendelssohn, Rheinberger, Steel, and a Hebble arrangement of "Londonderry Air". Tour conductor was Judith Ollikkala, who has arranged the last ten Fall Crawls for the Worcester Chapter, AGO, who started this tradition 16 years ago.. = = =
(back) Subject: Re: Let it snow! From: FireAlarmz <FireAlarmz@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 12:00:01 EST Bruce, it must be different where you are. A few years ago, the Phila. area got 30" of snow and the city and suburbs were paralyzed for several days, and fights broke out over parking spots, and...
(back) Subject: Re: 1997 Small Organ Challenge From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 12:42:18 EST Okay, my cats want to know where the listeners are going to sit. If noone is sitting, there are no laps to curl up in, which is a BAD THING. Is the Walker 1/2 size? Is the C'' big enough to hide in? (for cats, not me)
(back) Subject: Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 12:57:56 EST In a message dated 97-12-27 11:17:04 EST, you write: << We are very fortunate in our parish in having a Minister of Music who is a wonderful musician. It is difficult to know quite what this means. It somehow seems to be different from saying that she is a good organist or a good choir director, and indeed in my naughtier moments I tend to introduce her to people as, "One of the few organists around who is a musician." <g> Actually, in terms of technical accomplishment she is not one of the world's great organists, although what she can play she plays very well. >> Well gee, I guess I'm horribly underqualified, being an engineer (Comp Sci major, although I did sink two years into Manhattan School of Music's Comp department). I'm a much better "musician" than I am a "player." Nobody is ever going to hear me at Carnegie Hall, unless I rent the hall for a vanity show--but I am confident that the subset of the rep that I CAN play, I play as well as anyone can. There are two things in music that I find troubling. One is the compeition thinking that invades a good part of our music education. One of the creepiest things I ever saw was a PBS ducumentary on the Van Cliburn competition. At one point they did a montage, cutting from one competitor to another. It was neigh impossible to tell one competitors interpretation from another--I can program my computer to play with as much feeling as I saw there. Another is the emphesis on technique at the expense of the music. If any of you are jazz fans, you may be aware of the guitarist Al DiMeola. He plays as though he is paid by the note--and leaves me thinking, "well that's impressive, but where is the music" On the other hand, I once heard BB King play a guitar solo with one note. My God--what a note! Charles >Only one note works on my organ
(back) Subject: Re: Let it snow! From: email@example.com (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 14:55:36 -0500 >30" in. of snow....paralyzed Philadephia.. >fights broke out in parking lots Yeah! it's different here in the South. We don't need snow for fights to break our in parking lots. We have lots of beer and rednecks!! I remember the weather man in Burlington Vt saying, "the weather may be very uncomfortable, but at least it keeps out the riff-raff." Still wanting (much) snow, bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #177 - 12/27/97 From: Robert Shumway <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 13:57:57 -0600 >From: email@example.com >There are MANY people who care about a conductors stick technique and >CERTAINLY about his musicianship. If someone doesn't care at least about >the MUSICIANSHIP of a man who leads an orchestra like the Boston Pops then >that person should ABSOLUTELY NEVER have the gall to comment on anything >else to do with this topic or anything else having to do with music --- >Dan It seems that you took off on a rising mountain of flame without absorbing just what it was that I had written. After 50+ years of preparing organs for AGO conventions, for recitals by Fox (a real taskmaster) and Biggs (a gentleman) and others I think that I am not talking from an empty head. I have attended rehersals MANY times at Orchestra Hall in Chicago held by major conductors, first chairs, visiting conductors etc back in the early 50's and have had a close up view of many different methods of conducting. The majority of which consisted of the conductor using language that would make a sailor blush as they roundly condemed each member of the orchestra for failing to read his mind. Over and over, repeat and repeat every bar and every note until each member of the orchestra knew EXACTLY what was required during the preformance. After watching and listening to rehersal after rehersal the actual preformance becomes an anti-climax. It is difficult to beleive that the cultured gentleman in tails standing on the podium so calmly is the same person you saw only a day or two before in shirt sleeves sitting on a stool and sugguesting to one of his first chairs that they sat in church and scratched while their parents were getting married. What could he add while in front of a full audence with the microphones turned on. The true musicianship takes place during the rehersal when the conductor moulds the orchestra into the feel of the music as he hears it. Virgil Fox was to play a recital on a 4/28 Austin in Oklahoma City in 1946. One pedal note was a tiny bit soft. 3/4 of the Great chamber pipes had to be removed to get to that pedal pipe then all pipes removed had to be reinstalled and reregulated before Fox was content. Fox played more recitals and you had better beleive we knew then how he wanted his organs regulated before he ever arrived. Like a good conductor Fox left NO doubt about what he wanted. E. Power Biggs played a recital on the same 4/28 and no one warned us so we could get the organ ready. We rushed to the church and Biggs was there playing while a pipe ciphered away. I apologised to him and he waved me away, telling me not to bother, when he took a break from practice would be plenty of time to fix the cipher. When I offered to do a complete tune and regulate he said that it sounded good enough for him as it was. Had he been doing a recording session he would have wanted it perfect. A completly different person from Fox. Richard Elsassar playing at the John Hays Hammond Castle was like Fox in that he wanted everything perfect. He was a gentleman. He gently asked rather than demanded a Fox did. Why am I bringing all of this in? To show that the conductor or artist passes along his wants and needs and desires BEFORE the preformance. Dan - I do not like flames - I did not deserve your comments - this is an off topic subject anyway, as well as the fact that the quality of music is very subjective anyway - so lets drop this before I show you real flames and get myself thrown off this forum.
(back) Subject: PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off topic. From: "Dr. Peter G. Pocock" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 19:59:54 -0800 Hi everyone, Altough interesting, and at times controversial, the Fiedler etc. topic is very much off-topic as it does not relate to Pipe Organs or related subjects. Please move on to new and interesting topics. Can I also remind you all that one of our key guidelines here is "to be nice to one another." I see some rather pointed, not very nice, things being said which come nowhere near any of our guidelines, and are heading towards being "flame bait." Please remember our guidelines and rules. If you are not sure of them you can check them out on our homepage at: http://www.pipechat.org Holiday greetings to everyone and may you all have a wonderful New Year. Thanks for being a part of PipeChat. Pete Dr. Peter Pocock PipeChat Co-Owner and Administrator
(back) Subject: Re: PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off topic. From: email@example.com Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 23:11:53 -0500 Dr. Peter G. Pocock wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Altough interesting, and at times controversial, the Fiedler etc. topic is > very much off-topic as it does not relate to Pipe Organs or related > subjects. Fiedler made music. Music is related to pipe organs. What is the problem? Joe
(back) Subject: Re: PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off topic. From: firstname.lastname@example.org Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:26:34 -0800 (PST) >Fiedler made music. Music is related to pipe organs. >What is the problem? > >Joe Sounds reasonable to me. Personally, I see no problem. It is all related. Dan
(back) Subject: RELet it snow! From: Duncan Charig <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 15:53:28 +1100 -----Original Message----- From: PipeChat [SMTP:firstname.lastname@example.org] Sent: Saturday, December 27, 1997 9:00 PM To: PipeChat Subject: PipeChat Digest #177 - 12/27/97 Subject: Re: Let it snow! From: email@example.com (Sheridan Mascall) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 08:42:51 +1100 Mark Quarmby wrote: > >I almost envy you. After so many days recently of 30 or near 30 > degree > >heat snow >would make a welcome change. > > >Duncan Charig > > For a moment this afternoon, I thought we were going to have a white > Christmas (well Boxing Day anyway) here in Sydney too as it began to > hail! > > Cheers, > > Mark > *Did* it??? Wow. That's twice in one week, folks. Friday the 19th it = hailed so badly that my husband's smash repair shop has 12 months of = work to come back to after his vacation. We didn't get the hail here, = Mark, yesterday. ~Sheridan~ We didn't at all in the Gong, but we did have the temperature hitting = the ton on Boxing Day. Duncan