PipeChat Digest #179 - Sunday, December 28, 1997
 
Re: PipeChat Digest #178 - 12/28/97
  by euphonia <euphonia@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart
  by Dr. Darryl Miller <OrganDok@safari.net>
Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart
  by JAMES H HAILEY <BALD1@prodigy.net>
Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart
  by <JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu>
Re: Where can I find an Atlantic City Organ recording?
  by Frank Johnson <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
Re: Where can I find an Atlantic City Organ recording?
  by Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc.  -- Off   topic.
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
Musicality (was the Boston Pops conductor discussion)
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Off topics, flames and criticisms
  by MUSCUR <MUSCUR@aol.com>
Re: Where can I find an Atlantic City Organ recording?
  by Frank Johnson <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #178 - 12/28/97 From: euphonia <euphonia@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 97 07:07:44 -0500   you wrote:   >PipeChat Digest #178 - Sunday, December 28, 1997   > Re: Let it snow! > by FireAlarmz <FireAlarmz@aol.com> > Re: 1997 Small Organ Challenge > by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com>   > Re: Let it snow! > by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> > Re: PipeChat Digest #177 - 12/27/97 > by Robert Shumway <rshumway@iamerica.net> > PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off topic. > by Dr. Peter G. Pocock <pgpocock@ix.netcom.com> > Re: PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off topic. > by <krumet@ibm.net> > Re: PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off topic. > by <danbel@earthlink.net> > RELet it snow! > by Duncan Charig <charigd@illawarra.starway.net.au> > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Hook organ, Mechanics Hall, Worcester >From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 10:26:00 -0500 > >The Hook organ was used for the Processional during the Boys Choir of >Harlem concert on Tuesday which was televised on ABC Nightline. I agree >with Bruce, the organ does not have enough exposure to the public, after >being restored, although it did for a while. Now it gets a recital on >Brown Bag lunch concerts about three times a year, and otherwise only >occasionally. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart >From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 10:13:06 -0600 (CST) > >At 11:20 PM 12/26/97 -0500, Joe wrote: >>> And what is love? >>> >>> Ah, yes, but there are still concrete ways to describe "musicality." What >>> does it mean when someone says "S/he's so musical!"? >>> >>> --shirley >> >>I have always felt that this refers to the performance having "emotion" >>and "heart" in the music. This would certainly exclude those who seem >>intent on playing something so dead on as written -- without any room >>for interpretation -- in other words BORING!!! >> >>Music must be FELT!!! >> >>Music must make the LISTENER feel!!! > >We are very fortunate in our parish in having a Minister of Music who is a >wonderful musician. It is difficult to know quite what this means. It >somehow seems to be different from saying that she is a good organist or a >good choir director, and indeed in my naughtier moments I tend to introduce >her to people as, "One of the few organists around who is a musician." <g> >Actually, in terms of technical accomplishment she is not one of the world's >great organists, although what she can play she plays very well. Besides >playing the organ and directing the choir, she is a semi-professional >soprano, and has a bachelor's degree in music education, and an M.A. in >piano performance. Perhaps being not too narrowly focused is one thing that >makes her a musician. Certainly one aspect of what is musical about her is >that she plays with great warmth and feeling. She can also do the most >amazing things with the choir in the simplest pieces of music. But in one >sense it seems that she is as much a vehicle for the music as anything else. >She doesn't play the music, the music seems to take over and play through >her. > >By the way, I heard the Boston Pops in Nantucket last summer and I thought >they were great fun. > >Seasons Greetings, > >John. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Fall Crawl - long >From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 11:42:28 -0500 > >Of interest to some may be a description of the Columbus Day pipe organ >crawl, my tenth year in a row, for the Worcester Mass. Chapter, AGO, it= > >has taken off like a firecracker with more people every year!! We must b= >e >doing something right! I am off to Florida for some R&R on Monday morni= >ng >for a week and a half after a busy year! If any comments, please post to= > >me privately, as I will be off the lists temporarily. Judy Ollikkala > > > December 26,1997 > >The Worcester Chapter, AGO, sponsored its 16th annual "Fall Crawl" on >Columbus Day, >October 13,1997, with 147 people and three buses traveling to the >Narragansett Bay area of >Rhode Island. Phillips Memorial Baptist Church in Cranston was the first= > >stop, with Peter Krasinski > demonstrating a Cavaille-Coll model two manual tracker built in 1985 b= >y >Daniel Angerstein. The > organ was modeled in great detail, and as exactly as possible, after >similar sized instruments of 100 > plus years ago in France. The console was exceptionally attractive as we= >ll >as functional, and the > acoustics were adequate, while not approaching the French spaces for >reverberation. > We moved on to East Greenwich, situated on the west side of the >Bay, to Westminster > Unitarian Church, where Richard Hill put the 1992 Roche Organ Company >one-manual tracker > through a delightful program. This small organ has all stops on a divide= >d >compass, for much = > > diversity. Pastor Fred Gillis, a veteran crawl-goer, had invited us to >visit his church > several years ago, and was so happy to finally host our crawl. One of >Richard Hill=92s pieces was > "Wondrous Love" by David Johnson. This was repeated that afternoon on a >large 3 manual > Casavant, giving us a treat to hear the same tune on two very different >instruments. > We rode across the two long bridges spanning the Bay connecting >Jamestown Island to the >mainland, viewing sailboats, lighthouses, harbors, and church steeples >under a clear blue sky with the > sun shining on the waves. Newport beckoned with its old houses and ornat= >e >mansions (summer > cottages for the elite of a century ago). After lunch we strolled down t= >he >hill to the Newport > Congregational Church. UMass/Dartmouth student Andrew Galuska accompanie= >d >a rousing hymn, >"God of Our Fathers", on a gorgeous 1866 large 2 manual E.& G.G Hook in a= > >highly decorated interior designed and executed by famous artist John >LaFarge in 1882, now sadly in need of restoration, with fund-raising begu= >n. >Excerpts from Reubke=92s Sonata were played, and then Chapter member Davi= >d >Hagberg > accompanied an old and odd hymn entitled, " A Hundred Years Hence." > A two block walk along narrow colonial Spring Street took us to >St. Mary=92s, the oldest > Roman Catholic parish in the state, containing a 1958 Casavant-Freres >Ltee. electro-pneumatic three > manual organ in the gallery. Organist James Cassarino gave us a >demonstration which included, > besides the David Johnson piece, enjoyable short works by Callahan, >Couperin, Erbe, Quehl, > and Fonder. > A highlight of the day, for many people, was the Chapel at St. >George=92s Episcopal School in > Middletown, with a large 1963 Austin expertly played by James Wallace, = > >Director of Music. He > gave an interesting talk on the origins of the chapel and its furnishing= >s, >and the history of the organs, > ending with current and planned renovations to the Austin, and recent >ceiling acoustical work > completed this past summer. His renditions included Wagner=92s "Tannhaus= >er >March" using the reeds, a > lovely quiet "Elegie" by Thalben-Ball, and a superb "B-A-C-H" by Liszt,= > = > >What a wonderful > setting for a boarding school, with two long beaches within walking >distance! > The day ended with an interesting visit to Belcourt Castle on >Bellevue Avenue, built by Oliver > Hazard Belmont in 1894 at a cost (then) of 3 million. It is now owned by= > >the Harold Tinney family, > who have restored it and filled it with treasures of art, furniture, >silver, etc. and two E.& G.G. Hook > pipe organs originally in Providence. We had a tour of the mansion, then= > >silver tea in the Imperial > banquet room, followed by an organ demonstration by Lois Toeppner of the= > >1864 Hook organ in the > upstairs ballroom. Mrs. Tinney graciously invited all in the group to >return and play the organ at > another time. Mrs. Toeppner, Chair of the Region I 1999 AGO Convention t= >o >be held in Worcester, > ended the day by playing selections by Bach, Mendelssohn, Rheinberger, >Steel, and a Hebble > arrangement of "Londonderry Air". Tour conductor was Judith Ollikkala, >who has arranged the > last ten Fall Crawls for the Worcester Chapter, AGO, who started this >tradition 16 years ago.. > > > = > > = > > = > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: Let it snow! >From: FireAlarmz <FireAlarmz@aol.com> >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 12:00:01 EST > >Bruce, it must be different where you are. A few years ago, the Phila. area >got 30" of snow and the city and suburbs were paralyzed for several days, and >fights broke out over parking spots, and... > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: 1997 Small Organ Challenge >From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 12:42:18 EST > >Okay, my cats want to know where the listeners are going to sit. > >If noone is sitting, there are no laps to curl up in, which is a BAD THING. > >Is the Walker 1/2 size? Is the C'' big enough to hide in? (for cats, not >me) > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart >From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 12:57:56 EST > >In a message dated 97-12-27 11:17:04 EST, you write: > ><< We are very fortunate in our parish in having a Minister of Music who is a > wonderful musician. It is difficult to know quite what this means. It > somehow seems to be different from saying that she is a good organist or a > good choir director, and indeed in my naughtier moments I tend to introduce > her to people as, "One of the few organists around who is a musician." <g> > Actually, in terms of technical accomplishment she is not one of the world's > great organists, although what she can play she plays very well. >> > >Well gee, I guess I'm horribly underqualified, being an engineer (Comp Sci >major, although I did sink two years into Manhattan School of Music's Comp >department). > >I'm a much better "musician" than I am a "player." Nobody is ever going to >hear me at Carnegie Hall, unless I rent the hall for a vanity show--but I am >confident that the subset of the rep that I CAN play, I play as well as >anyone >can. > >There are two things in music that I find troubling. One is the compeition >thinking that invades a good part of our music education. One of the >creepiest things I ever saw was a PBS ducumentary on the Van Cliburn >competition. At one point they did a montage, cutting from one competitor to >another. It was neigh impossible to tell one competitors interpretation from >another--I can program my computer to play with as much feeling as I saw >there. > >Another is the emphesis on technique at the expense of the music. If any of >you are jazz fans, you may be aware of the guitarist Al DiMeola. He plays as >though he is paid by the note--and leaves me thinking, "well that's >impressive, but where is the music" On the other hand, I once heard BB King >play a guitar solo with one note. My God--what a note! > >Charles >>Only one note works on my organ > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: Let it snow! >From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 14:55:36 -0500 > >>30" in. of snow....paralyzed Philadephia.. >>fights broke out in parking lots > >Yeah! it's different here in the South. We don't need snow for fights >to break our in parking lots. We have lots of beer and rednecks!! > >I remember the weather man in Burlington Vt saying, "the weather may be >very uncomfortable, but at least it keeps out the riff-raff." > >Still wanting (much) snow, > > > bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o > ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #177 - 12/27/97 >From: Robert Shumway <rshumway@iamerica.net> >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 13:57:57 -0600 > >>From: danbel@earthlink.net >>There are MANY people who care about a conductors stick technique and >>CERTAINLY about his musicianship. If someone doesn't care at least about >>the MUSICIANSHIP of a man who leads an orchestra like the Boston Pops then >>that person should ABSOLUTELY NEVER have the gall to comment on anything >>else to do with this topic or anything else having to do with music --- >>Dan > >It seems that you took off on a rising mountain of flame without absorbing >just what it was that I had written. > >After 50+ years of preparing organs for AGO conventions, for recitals by >Fox (a real taskmaster) and Biggs (a gentleman) and others I think that >I am not talking from an empty head. > >I have attended rehersals MANY times at Orchestra Hall in Chicago held by >major conductors, first chairs, visiting conductors etc back in the early >50's and have had a close up view of many different methods of conducting. >The majority of which consisted of the conductor using language that would >make a sailor blush as they roundly condemed each member of the orchestra >for failing to read his mind. Over and over, repeat and repeat every bar >and every note until each member of the orchestra knew EXACTLY what was >required during the preformance. After watching and listening to rehersal >after rehersal the actual preformance becomes an anti-climax. It is difficult >to beleive that the cultured gentleman in tails standing on the podium >so calmly is the same person you saw only a day or two before in shirt >sleeves sitting on a stool and sugguesting to one of his first chairs >that they sat in church and scratched while their parents were getting >married. What could he add while in front of a full audence with the >microphones turned on. The true musicianship takes place during the >rehersal when the conductor moulds the orchestra into the feel of the >music as he hears it. > >Virgil Fox was to play a recital on a 4/28 Austin in Oklahoma City in >1946. One pedal note was a tiny bit soft. 3/4 of the Great chamber pipes >had to be removed to get to that pedal pipe then all pipes removed had >to be reinstalled and reregulated before Fox was content. Fox played >more recitals and you had better beleive we knew then how he wanted >his organs regulated before he ever arrived. Like a good conductor >Fox left NO doubt about what he wanted. > >E. Power Biggs played a recital on the same 4/28 and no one warned us >so we could get the organ ready. We rushed to the church and Biggs >was there playing while a pipe ciphered away. I apologised to him and >he waved me away, telling me not to bother, when he took a break from >practice would be plenty of time to fix the cipher. When I offered to do >a complete tune and regulate he said that it sounded good enough for >him as it was. Had he been doing a recording session he would have >wanted it perfect. A completly different person from Fox. > >Richard Elsassar playing at the John Hays Hammond Castle was like Fox >in that he wanted everything perfect. He was a gentleman. He gently >asked rather than demanded a Fox did. > >Why am I bringing all of this in? To show that the conductor or artist >passes along his wants and needs and desires BEFORE the preformance. > >Dan - I do not like flames - I did not deserve your comments - this >is an off topic subject anyway, as well as the fact that the quality >of music is very subjective anyway - so lets drop this before I show >you real flames and get myself thrown off this forum. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off topic. >From: "Dr. Peter G. Pocock" <pgpocock@ix.netcom.com> >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 19:59:54 -0800 > >Hi everyone, > >Altough interesting, and at times controversial, the Fiedler etc. topic is >very much off-topic as it does not relate to Pipe Organs or related >subjects. Please move on to new and interesting topics. > >Can I also remind you all that one of our key guidelines here is "to be >nice to one another." I see some rather pointed, not very nice, things >being said which come nowhere near any of our guidelines, and are heading >towards being "flame bait." Please remember our guidelines and rules. >If you are not sure of them you can check them out on our homepage at: >http://www.pipechat.org > >Holiday greetings to everyone and may you all have a wonderful New Year. >Thanks for being a part of PipeChat. > >Pete > >Dr. Peter Pocock >PipeChat Co-Owner and Administrator > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off topic. >From: krumet@ibm.net >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 23:11:53 -0500 > >Dr. Peter G. Pocock wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> Altough interesting, and at times controversial, the Fiedler etc. topic is >> very much off-topic as it does not relate to Pipe Organs or related >> subjects. > >Fiedler made music. Music is related to pipe organs. >What is the problem? > >Joe > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off > topic. >From: danbel@earthlink.net >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:26:34 -0800 (PST) > > >>Fiedler made music. Music is related to pipe organs. >>What is the problem? >> >>Joe > >Sounds reasonable to me. Personally, I see no problem. It is all related. > >Dan > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: RELet it snow! >From: Duncan Charig <charigd@illawarra.starway.net.au> >Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 15:53:28 +1100 > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: PipeChat [SMTP:pipechat@pipechat.org] >Sent: Saturday, December 27, 1997 9:00 PM >To: PipeChat >Subject: PipeChat Digest #177 - 12/27/97 > > >Subject: Re: Let it snow! >From: sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au (Sheridan Mascall) >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 08:42:51 +1100 > >Mark Quarmby wrote: >> >I almost envy you. After so many days recently of 30 or near 30 >> degree >> >heat snow >would make a welcome change. >> >> >Duncan Charig >> >> For a moment this afternoon, I thought we were going to have a white >> Christmas (well Boxing Day anyway) here in Sydney too as it began to >> hail! >> >> Cheers, >> >> Mark >> > >*Did* it??? Wow. That's twice in one week, folks. Friday the 19th it = >hailed so badly that my husband's smash repair shop has 12 months of = >work to come back to after his vacation. We didn't get the hail here, = >Mark, yesterday. >~Sheridan~ > >We didn't at all in the Gong, but we did have the temperature hitting = >the ton on Boxing Day. > >Duncan > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >End of PipeChat Digest > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <OrganDok@safari.net> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 07:34:33 -0500   Charles wrote: <<Another is the emphesis on technique at the expense of the music. >>   Amen, Bruthuh!   You've hit on one of my "hot" topics. For years I've been distressed with the fact that if a performer (I almost used the word "artist") is a note-eater and fire-breather, then he/she is a great musician. NOT SO!   In a public performance, it is verrrrrrry easy to get caught up in the excitement of the moment and lose one's concentration on the music, but when it's all said and done, many times there really wasn't much music making going on. Now . . . most of us love the big technical displays. I certainly do, but I always appreciate the same artist playing a beautiful melody.   So . . . as a caution to all of us who play week in and week out, I would suggest we tape record ourselves more often and listen, truly listen to see whether or not we make beautiful music. Anyone (well . . . almost anyone) can tell if we are playing the right notes, but a beautiful melody played sensitively can work wonders!   Just a thought for this chilly Sunday morning in South Florida!   Happy New Year,   Darryl by the Sea  
(back) Subject: Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart From: "JAMES H HAILEY" <BALD1@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 22:58:16 -0500     -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Darryl Miller <OrganDok@safari.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Sunday, December 28, 1997 7:44 AM Subject: Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart     >Charles wrote: ><<Another is the emphesis on technique at the expense of the music. >> > >Amen, Bruthuh! > >It is often been said that Virgil Fox interpreted Bach. This statement is very true. But, on the other hand he never did so at the expense of the music. The melody line was always distinguishable. He never massacred music.   I have no symphathy for a performer who will take a piece of music, (The Star Spangled Banner is often gutted in the name of creativity) and then fill it full of useless runs and slurs.   While on the other hand, a soft descant, or even a pedal counter-melody can be very effective, and allow the performer to be creative without sacrificing the music itself. > >Happy New Year, > >Darryl by the Sea > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Fiedler vs Williams vs Lockhart From: JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu Date: 28 Dec 1997 10:29:40 CST/CDT   e audience.   I hope everyone has a great new year.     Jon Kroepel    
(back) Subject: Re: Where can I find an Atlantic City Organ recording? From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 10:58:34 -0600   >Excerpts from mail: 23-Dec-97 Re: Where can I find an Atl.. by GRS Co >LVR@aol.com >> It is a non stereo (ie Hi Fi) recording by Mercury Records,,,No. >> MG50127 and dated 1956.. >It was also issued in stereo as SR 90127. I have it. > Do you have any idea if it is still possible to acquire this recording?   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: Where can I find an Atlantic City Organ recording? From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 12:16:47 -0500   No reissues were released. Out of stock for two decades. The only sources would be: 1. Used record dealer or flea market or individual seller 2. Someone willing to make a copy of their recording   Stan Lowkis   Frank Johnson wrote: > > >Excerpts from mail: 23-Dec-97 Re: Where can I find an Atl.. by GRS Co > >LVR@aol.com > >> It is a non stereo (ie Hi Fi) recording by Mercury Records,,,No. > >> MG50127 and dated 1956.. > >It was also issued in stereo as SR 90127. I have it. > > > Do you have any idea if it is still possible to acquire this recording? > > Frank >  
(back) Subject: Re: PIPECHAT ADMIN NOTE--PLEASE READ: Fieldler etc. -- Off topic. From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:11:34   At 20:26 12/27/97 -0800, you wrote: > >>Fiedler made music. Music is related to pipe organs. >>What is the problem? >> >>Joe > >Sounds reasonable to me. Personally, I see no problem. It is all related. > >Dan     Welllllllllll..........   The direction the thread has taken, namely the debate on musicality, definitely relates to organ musicmaking, for that is where I have heard some extremely musical and talented organists, and also where I have heard some excellent technicians. Maybe I should have changed the subject line when I took it on that tangent....   It's the "Let it Snow" thread that I'd like to see an end to, personally..... that left organs and music a long time ago... but that's just my opinion... :)   Hope the holidays are more holidays than holidaze for all of you! :)   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: Musicality (was the Boston Pops conductor discussion) From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:53:43   OK, so I've now renamed the thread.   Darryl Miller and others have made the point that music is more than notes. And they're absolutely right. Yes, it's fine to be able to play pyrotechnical pieces as long as the notes are right, the playing is clean, and the registration and volume are appropriate.   However, other quieter music *requires* that an organist take the playing one step further and make music. Being able to play all the right notes is *not* the end for all performance..... making music is.   A beautiful line is not only beautiful in singing, it's beautiful in playing as well. On piano (which is my primary instrument), it's easy to make a beautiful line through touch, for those of us who are trained on the instrument. On organ, it requires more sensitive use of the shades, or *very* sensitive use of registration. I think we too often just pull some stops or hit a piston, say, "Yeah, that'll work", and that's the end of that.   We haven't really *listened* to what we're playing.   One writer suggested we tape-record our playing and listen to it. Yes, critique it (not criticize it), and make changes accordingly. However, taking the few minutes necessary to play the piece one more time (or many, depending on the complexity) to get just the right registration makes all the difference in the world. And make phrases as if you were singing them.   My reasoning for starting this thread in the first place is to challenge those of you who play to do so *musically*. I challenge you to take your playing to that next step.   Go ye and make music, all ye who are able. :)   Peace, Shirley  
(back) Subject: Re: Off topics, flames and criticisms From: MUSCUR <MUSCUR@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 14:53:06 EST   Speaking as a professional musician, touring organist and mostly list-lurker I thank all for 12/28's postings . . . for me the conductor comment thread, the thereby revealed recollections of personalities of major touring organists' relations with their on-site technicians, and the ongoing successful development of fire retardent early warning systems bring to me invaluable information and genuine entertainment. Please continue or, if it is all too far afield for everyone else, tell me where y'all move this feast to next!   Dennis James (musica curiosa)  
(back) Subject: Re: Where can I find an Atlantic City Organ recording? From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 14:36:14 -0600   >No reissues were released. Out of stock for two decades. >The only sources would be: >1. Used record dealer or flea market or individual seller >2. Someone willing to make a copy of their recording > Thank you for your speedy reply.   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156