PipeChat Digest #10 - Friday, July 25, 1997
gans: Been-there; Done-that!
        by Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net>
date -   Pipe organ supporting frame wood costs
        by Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton434@bigwave.ca>
t organs: Been-there; Done-that!
        by Russell L. Followell <rlf@iquest.net>
 Organ Diary - August
        by Sheridan Mascall <sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au>
me pipe organ??
        by Douglas A. Campbell <dougcampbell@juno.com>
mas Gift Idea?
        by Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
me pipe organ??
        by <NFexec@aol.com>
me pipe organ??
        by <SCoonrod@aol.com>
ti Midi Box
        by John Balboni <JohnB@GCQ.net>
llanti Midi Box
        by Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
me pipe organ??
        by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
me pipe organ??
        by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
llanti Midi Box
        by <SCoonrod@aol.com>
in London available for practice .
        by Robert Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
me pipe organ??
        by dmjd <jimdave@rnet.com>
gan in London available for practice .
        by Kenneth O. Woods <kow987@dice.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
gan in London available for practice .
        by Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net>
me pipe organ??
        by <SCoonrod@aol.com>
gan in London available for practice .
        by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
me pipe organ??
        by Wilkinson, Dan <wilkinson@mdaw.mdc.com>
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(back) Subject: Kit organs: Been-there; Done-that! From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 08:32:59 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   RandyT wrote:   > I totally agree that each organ, be it classical or theatre, gains much > of its beauty (or ugliness, for that matter) from the fact that it is a > unique and individual creation. It is probably true that the > population in general wouldn't be interested in the organ in any shape, > form, or fashion unless it would make them money.   <snippage>   > I think that an inventive company could come up with some kind of > modern "kit" organ that they could make money on, and supply those of > us who would greatly benifit from a small house organ with a modest > instrument that would serve our needs.     As a company that tried that about 10 years ago or so, all I can say is WANNA BET/INVEST MONEY ON THAT?? The up-front costs of engineering such a thing are enormous, and the companies that produce pipework don't give organbuilders any "discounts" on volume purchases of pipework.   The only way it could be done and make money is to invest in very capital intensive equipment, such as C-N-C Machining Centers to allow replicated parts to be made without the usual labor content. Such equipment, even entry-level machinery, is usually above the average organbuilder's financial "station in life".   Of course, if anyone out there on this list is interested in talking with me privately about re-activating my interest in such a venture and has the necessary funds (250K min for at least 5 years!) to make it work, then I could be probably be persauded to give it another shot.   Faithfully, -- / ^ ^ \ { (O) (O) } --------oOOOo--------U-------oOOOo------------   "Arp in the Corn Patch" Rich Schneider SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders SNAILMAIL:41-43 Johnston Street P.O. Box 137 Kenney, Il 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX EMAIL: mailto:arpncorn@dave-world.net  
(back) Subject: Re: update - Pipe organ supporting frame wood costs From: Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton434@bigwave.ca> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:13:05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"   ***** update ******   BREAKING NEWS!!!   Price Break!!!!   >>So, what is a low cost attractive material for pipe organ frames? >> >>William C. > > >Poplar and pine are the traditional materials for organ structural work. I would suggest that you look around more for cheaper suppliers of wood. Stay clear of the do it yourself hardware/lumber yards as they charge 3 to 4 time the going rate for even the poorest grades of wood, and never carry anything of any quality. Oak/Maple/Poplar in Canada runs about $3.00 a board foot for top quality wood in any size/length without extra cost for large pieces, from wood specialty dealers that's about $2.00+ or so a board foot for you U.S. folks. Your 106 lin, ft would be about $125.00 U. S. or so? If I'm not mistaken. $$$$$ Black Walnut $$$$$ sells for about $4.00 Canadian!!! from dealers! that's about $60.00 a foot from the local retail guys. > >Big difference   Update!!!! This is not a plug for the company nor is it a recomendation as I've never bought anything from them but I thought you all might like an idea of wholesale lumber costs in Canada ( the Canadian dollar is worth about .$ 00.73 U.S. )   I just looked up a listing for wood from a company in Brantford Ontario. B.C.W. Wholesale lumber. 519 753 2052 They sell to the general public as well i'm told. ( I met them at a woodworking show but have not been to their store. ) Here are their advertised prices for 1" rough cut wood priced per board foot that is a piece 12" by 12" by 1" or equivalent. Planning and delivery available. 1" red oak select $2.75   1" red oak #1 $2.00   1" cherry select $2.75   1" cherry #1 $2.00   1" cherry #2 $1.60   1 1/2" birch $2.00   1" aspen #1 $1.25   1" pine furniture grade $1.25   1" clear pine $2.25   1" butternut $2.40     All prices do not reflect the 8% pst and 7% gst taxes ( refundable to U. S. customers and Registered businesses)   As you can see the prices of wood can vary from place to place and store to store ( the local lumber/hardware chains charge 3-7 times as much for wood and their ideas of select and #1 grades are closer to #2 common grades) Thus it's worth it for the amatuer and professional alike to shop around for a better deal!   This company is in Southern Ontario. Those of you far away could probably get similar savings from local wholesale dealers. ( by the way you don't need to buy a whole truckload to get these prices. These are individual board prices.   Nelson Denton R. A. Denton And Son Pipe Organ Builders 140 Mount Albion Road Hamilton Ontario L8K 5S8   905 561 1331 voice and fax e-mail   ndenton434@bigwave.ca radenton@bigwave.ca  
(back) Subject: RE: Kit organs: Been-there; Done-that! From: "Russell L. Followell" <rlf@iquest.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:32:13 -0500   I keep getting email and more email from pipechat.....PLEASE DELETE my address rlf@iquest.net   ---------- From: Richard Schneider[SMTP:arpncorn@dave-world.net] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 1997 10:32 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Kit organs: Been-there; Done-that!   RandyT wrote:   > I totally agree that each organ, be it classical or theatre, gains much > of its beauty (or ugliness, for that matter) from the fact that it is a > unique and individual creation. It is probably true that the > population in general wouldn't be interested in the organ in any shape, > form, or fashion unless it would make them money.   <snippage>   > I think that an inventive company could come up with some kind of > modern "kit" organ that they could make money on, and supply those of > us who would greatly benifit from a small house organ with a modest > instrument that would serve our needs.     As a company that tried that about 10 years ago or so, all I can say is WANNA BET/INVEST MONEY ON THAT?? The up-front costs of engineering such a thing are enormous, and the companies that produce pipework don't give organbuilders any "discounts" on volume purchases of pipework.   The only way it could be done and make money is to invest in very capital intensive equipment, such as C-N-C Machining Centers to allow replicated parts to be made without the usual labor content. Such equipment, even entry-level machinery, is usually above the average organbuilder's financial "station in life".   Of course, if anyone out there on this list is interested in talking with me privately about re-activating my interest in such a venture and has the necessary funds (250K min for at least 5 years!) to make it work, then I could be probably be persauded to give it another shot.   Faithfully, -- / ^ ^ \ { (O) (O) } --------oOOOo--------U-------oOOOo------------   "Arp in the Corn Patch" Rich Schneider SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders SNAILMAIL:41-43 Johnston Street P.O. Box 137 Kenney, Il 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX EMAIL: mailto:arpncorn@dave-world.net   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:            
(back) Subject: Sydney Organ Diary - August From: sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au (Sheridan Mascall) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 10:16:20 +1000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   PLEASE NOTE that for this month this is the only means of publication of this Diary. There will be no brochures printed as the only items are the regular Cathedral dates and the St Mary's Cathedral Choir, both of which have produced their own fliers. Our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause, but due to circumstances David Rumsey and I decided it was better to forego a printed Diary this month. Please address any queries directly to him.   Regards, Sheridan       ORGAN DATES IN SYDNEY -- AUGUST 1997       ==================================================== Thursday 7th ST. ANDREW'S CATHEDRAL     CATHEDRAL CLOSED FOR MAINTENANCE   NO RECITAL     ====================================================   Sunday 10th August ST ALBAN'S CHURCH 2.30 p.m. Pembroke Street, Epping   Macquarie University presents MUSIC ON WINTER SUNDAYS   St Mary's Cathedral Choir David Russell (Director) Peter Kneeshaw (Organ)   "Gigue" Fugue in G Bach Noel, "Joseph est bien marie" Balbastre Toccata in C (First Sydney performance) Brumby Prelude and Fugue in F, BuxWV145 Buxtehude Toccata on "Lasst und erfreuen" Choveaux Organ Sonata No 6 Mendelssohn   Locus Iste (Bruckner), Excerpts from Mass in Three Parts (Byrd), Cantique de Jean Racine (Faure), Panis Angelicus (Franck), Ave Verum Corpus, Sancta Maria (Mozart), O How Amiable (Vaughan Williams), plus choral works by Gabrieli, Mawby, Morley, Palestrina, Peeters and Victoria.   Tel: 9850 8925 (W), 9428 1463 (H) Admission: Free Email: medge@mpce.mq.edu.au   This concert represents something of an experiment in the "Winter Sundays" series: in order to use the church's fine pipe organ, a concert is being held off-campus for the first time. The next concert in the series, on Sunday 24 August, returns to the Macquarie Theatre for instrumental and vocal music (soprano, viola, clarinet and piano) by Brahms, Mendelssohn and Schubert.   ====================================================   Thursday 14th ST. ANDREW'S CATHEDRAL 1:15pm George Street, Sydney   Hans U. Hielscher Organist, Marktkirche, Wiesbaden, Germany   Sonata No 4 in A min, Op.98 Rheinberger (i)Tempo moderato (ii)Intermezzo (iii)Fuga cromatica Variations on an old Dutch folksong Cor Kee   Tel: 9265-1661 Admission: Free   ==================================================== Thursday 21st ST. ANDREW'S CATHEDRAL 1:15pm George Street, Sydney   Benjamn Bayl 1997 Organ Scholar, King's College, Cambridge, UK   Prelude and Fugue on BACH F Liszt Psalm Prelude Set 2, No 1 H Howells Tuba Tune N Cocker   TEl:9265-1661 Admission: Free   ===================================================   AUGUST 28 ST. ANDREW'S CATHEDRAL 1:15pm George Street, Sydney   Dudley Oakes & Gordon Atkinson (USA)   Organ Duets   Fanfare and Tuckets Myron Roberts A Fancy for Two to Play Thomas Tomkins Fantasie for Organ Adolph Hesse (i) Adagio (ii) Andantino (iii) Allegretto Variations on an Easter Theme John Rutter Meditation on "The Sun on the Treetops" Gordon Atkinson Stars and Stripes Forever John Philip Sousa (arr. Elizabeth and Raymond Chenault)   Tel: 9265-1661 Admission: Free   ====================================================  
(back) Subject: Re: Home pipe organ?? From: dougcampbell@juno.com (Douglas A. Campbell) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 20:33:06 EDT     On Wed, 23 Jul 1997 21:52:54 -0400 "Paul F. Stapel" <pstapel@spectra.net> writes:   >If you are within the upstate New York area, west of the Adirondacks, >call >me at 607 773 1495/ 722 3933 and I can certainly fill you in!!. >Otherwise, call WICKS at 800-444 WICK or 618 654 2191. They are in >Highland, >Illinois, near St. Louis. > >Paul Stapel, proud Sales Director of WICKS in the up-state New York >area > Paul, Where are you located?     Douglas A. Campbell formerly in Skaneateles, NY now in Jackson, WY  
(back) Subject: Christmas Gift Idea? From: nstarfil@mediaone.net (Stanley Lowkis) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:45:30 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   This looks pretty neat (found linked to T.O. Home Page   http://www.holmbergclockworks.com/models.html    
(back) Subject: Re: Home pipe organ?? From: NFexec@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:49:47 -0400 (EDT)   Bruce - regarding TO pipes and electronics -- I personally feel that the vast majority of TO pipework cannot successfully be recreated with electronics added to pipes. However, the lower registers - especially the 16' and definitely 32' are remarkably good - Allen Organ Co. makes a midi compatable "box" capable of producing many different ranks, effects, etc that I believe is a wonderful addition. We added two of these to a large TO and NO ONE knows that they are not real. We extended our gemshorn from 4' down to 16', and added 16' "extensions" for the tibia clausa (very powerful sound), clarinet, oboe horn, solo string, and believe it or not, the english post horn. We also added a string harp, tympani, piano, and the one 8' "rank" we added was a french horn as our pipe set was in terrible tonal condiditon. WOW! What a sound! Definite possibilities. Powerful amps and high quality (and large) speakers are part of the trick.  
(back) Subject: Re: Home pipe organ?? From: SCoonrod@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 22:00:18 -0400 (EDT)   Yes Bruce, I would love a mechanical action home organ--we have a small 8-8-8 Ruggles tracker at our local university, and if it only had a concave pedalboard it would be excellent for almost any practice. It does quite well as is. Recently I saw a small 4 stop tracker in one of the journals that had an 8 + 4 on one manual and an 8 + 8 reed on the other. I think the pedal was pulldown. The way I see it though is that these instruments are usually on the "high art" side and I doubt if they can be built inexpensively. I'm talking $20,000.00 or less. Anybody know of a mechanical action (new, modern) instrument of more than one or two stops in that range?  
(back) Subject: Gallanti Midi Box From: JohnB@GCQ.net (John Balboni) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 22:34:53 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"   List members,   I recently heard that Gallanti makes an "organ in a box". It is operated via a MIDI keyboard and has a variety of classical samples. Unlike the Allen MIDI expander module, I was told that with the Gallanti, you can have multiple stops engaged on each of 3 separate MIDI channels.   I'm looking for more info ... web page, telephone number, address, where I can request a brochure with the details. Does anyone know how much this costs? Any personal experience pro or con with it?   Thank you, John    
(back) Subject: Re: Gallanti Midi Box From: nstarfil@mediaone.net (Stanley Lowkis) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 23:50:08 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   John Balboni wrote:   > List members, > > I recently heard that Gallanti makes an "organ in a box". It is > operated > via a MIDI keyboard and has a variety of classical samples. Unlike > the > Allen MIDI expander module, I was told that with the Gallanti, you can > have > multiple stops engaged on each of 3 separate MIDI channels. > > I'm looking for more info ... web page, telephone number, address, > where I > can request a brochure with the details. Does anyone know how much > this > costs? Any personal experience pro or con with it? > > Thank you, > John   Hope this helps.   http://www.generalmusic.com/ahlborn/archive/index.htm   Stan    
(back) Subject: Re: Home pipe organ?? From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:30:20 -0400 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT   I have played Allen's before, my favorite being one built in the mid 70's (dont remember the model), but I do remember being impressed with the reed sounds, especially a cromorne; also the 16 and 32 reeds were very good. All this aside, (and this is not merely argumentative) do you ever feelcheated or long forthe real pipes in the chamber (for me it is almost lonliness!).     Bruce Cornely o o o o o ______________ o o o o o o o o o ______________ o o o o o o o o o ______________ o o o o o ====================================  
(back) Subject: Re: Home pipe organ?? From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:40:25 -0400 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT   To SCoonrod The Ruggles description sounds nice. I played an 1868 Jardine for a year with a straight, flat pedalboard and got used to it in about three weeks. I have been playing on a concave, radiating pedalboard now for almost three years and am still uncomfortable (what gives!), and I learned on concave, radiating. It really is a shame that pipe organs (actually all organs) have gotten so expensive; $20,000 is almost the bottom for any organ with complete manuals and pedals; the difference usually is that you get more stuff on an electronic. But what the hay, you still have to lay out a "bunch o' money."     Bruce Cornely o o o o o ______________ o o o o o o o o o ______________ o o o o o o o o o ______________ o o o o o ====================================  
(back) Subject: Re: Gallanti Midi Box From: SCoonrod@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 08:12:21 -0400 (EDT)   You can find Galanti info in bothThe Diapason and The American Organist. If you don't have access to these let me know. I had the opportunity to experience these "modules" as they call them, at a recent AGO convention in Birmingham, Alabama. Keep in mind that in order for any sampled equiptment to work well you need an EXCELLENT sound system. I found the classical modules better than the romantic one with all of the Skinner style stops. They are supposed to be completely voiceable. I have been exploring adding something like this to the pipe organ in my church, but to get the organ midi-equipted, buy the box, and get a delux sound system will run well over $20,000.00, not available at this time. If you already have a modern electronic organ with midi the box itself sells for around $3500.00, I think....don't hold me to that figure....RandyT  
(back) Subject: Organ in London available for practice . From: Robert Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 12:51:54 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"   A member of the church of St.John's and St.Peter's Notting Hill, London. and has brought to my attention the following notice from the Parish Bulletin:   "St. Peter's organ is not in a healthy condition. It would benefit from being played more frequently. So if anyone knows of someone who would like to practise on it do let us know."   You could contact the the Parish Office at 0171-792-8227 for further information.   I am only relaying this item, since, as I live in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. I am unable to give any further details Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Organic DeeJay Emeritus CFRC-FM 101.9 MHz Radio Queen's University Kingston, Ontario, K7L 3N6 CANADA    
(back) Subject: Re: Home pipe organ?? From: dmjd <jimdave@rnet.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 23:42:19 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear Bruce and All: I still maintain (respectfully) that used pipe organs make wonderful home organs. In the 30's Wicks put out wonderful small organs for chapels and funeral homes, especially. They are still out there wanting new homes. They consisted of Flute, String and Diapason, or in some cases Dulciana substituted for the Diapason. The 16' section of the flute was a set of blown reeds on the pedal and the bottom octave of the 8' open diapason was: the 8' flute combined with the 4' octave. Very effective. I play one every Sunday in our temporary church home. Moller did something similar and so did Kilgen with their "petite ensemble" There are larger organs available also on the used market. Even with paying for installation and possibly some revoicing, they can still be economical. There are 2 churches where I service a 4 rank Skinner and a 4 rank Austin. Just takes some looking. Jim -- email: jimdave@rnet.com Rainbow Ridge Farm      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in London available for practice . From: kow987@dice.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil (Kenneth O. Woods) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 97 13:05:41 EST   > > A member of the church of St.John's and St.Peter's Notting Hill, London. > and has brought to my attention the following notice from the Parish Bulletin: > > "St. Peter's organ is not in a healthy condition. It would benefit from > being played more frequently. So if > anyone knows of someone who would like to practise on it do let us know." > > You could contact the the Parish Office at 0171-792-8227 for further > information. *sigh* and yet a nearby church of my denomination won't let me practice on theirs. I have to rely on the good will of the catholics who, although a bit begrudgingly, are going to give me some bench time. I'll bide my time until an appropriate opportunity comes along to blow their socks off! *grin*   -- Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in London available for practice . From: Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII   On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Kenneth O. Woods wrote: [something about an organ needing to be played] > *sigh* and yet a nearby church of my denomination won't let me practice on > theirs. I have to rely on the good will of the catholics who, although a bit > begrudgingly, are going to give me some bench time. I'll bide my time until > an appropriate opportunity comes along to blow their socks off! *grin*   It really is sad, especially when the organ isn't used at all during the week. Over the summer the church my wife and I attend (Catholic) has no evening Mass during the week -- only a morning Mass. I asked if I could practice there in the evenings, and they said that as long as the church is already open I could practice whenever I wanted, as long as there was nothing going on. They showed me where the key to the console is kept and that was that. I've been very lucky and thankful that they gave me so much permission. Of course, it might help that my teacher is one of the organists at the Cathedral for our diocese. :)   -Adam      
(back) Subject: Re: Home pipe organ?? From: SCoonrod@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:03:18 -0400 (EDT)   I can't imagine an electronic organ sounding very good in a living room.... I've played a recent Allen with speakers in the console....it just did not do it for me... You need good speakers and a chamber to come close to a good sound... Those of you with classical electronic organs...how did you do it in your house?  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in London available for practice . From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:04:46 -0400 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT   Kenneth,   Hold tight! The day may come. When I was in college there was a church on the end of the block where my apartment complex was located. Actually I moved there hoping that I would be able to practice on their 3m AEolian Skinner. I made an appointment with the pastor (according to church policy) and was told by him that they allowed only their organist to use the organ. The following summer I received a call from that pastor (who had evidently kept my phone number for some reason). He was desperate: it was Saturday, their organist was in Europe, and the substitute had had to go out of town suddenly. He said the magic words, "Can you play for us Sunday>" My response (and it felt really good!!), "Sorry, you only allow YOUR ORGANIST to use YOUR ORGAN." Years later later, I got to lay the organ; it was okay, but not that great. I have learned since that usually when an organ is difficult to gain access to, it probably isn't worth it. Notice, the worst organs have the largest padlocks!     Bruce Cornely o o o o o ______________ o o o o o o o o o ______________ o o o o o o o o o ______________ o o o o o ====================================  
(back) Subject: RE: Home pipe organ?? From: "Wilkinson, Dan" <wilkinson@mdaw.mdc.com> Date: 25 Jul 1997 12:21:19 U   Well.....   I have to agree with you about the speakers in the console. I had a 2 manual theatre organ (Allen 212) and decided to get the external speaker option. Once I heard it in my house, I decided I was really glad I had the big external speakers. I turned off the speakers in the console and used only the 4 external ones I had.   I have since traded in my 212 for an Allen 317 (a 3 manual 17 rank theatre organ). I now have 6 speaker enclosures. Two of them, the Tibias and the Mains are upstairs at the head of the stairway. Two more, located under the grand piano in the living room, duplicate the Tibia and Mains upstairs, at a reduced volume (basically to get the sound all around the house) and the other two speakers are in the stairway producing the tuned percussions and some of the reeds (i.e., Kinura, Trumpet, 1 rank of a 3 rank string celeste, etc.)   I like the way it sounds......and it's as close to a pipe organ as I'm going to get in my townhouse. I don't think the neighborlady would give up her house so I could pipes next door.....might be a good idea though...ha!   Dan Wilkinson _______________________________________________________________________________ From: PipeChat on Fri, Jul 25, 1997 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Home pipe organ?? To: pipechat@pipechat.org   I can't imagine an electronic organ sounding very good in a living room.... I've played a recent Allen with speakers in the console....it just did not do it for me... You need good speakers and a chamber to come close to a good sound... Those of you with classical electronic organs...how did you do it in your house?   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by mdaw.mdc.com with ADMIN;25 Jul 1997 12:02:15 U Received: from aol.com by pipechat.org with SMTP; Fri, 25 Jul 97 14:03:32 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:03:18 -0400 (EDT) From: SCoonrod@aol.com Message-ID: <970725150300_-489721146@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Home pipe organ?? Reply-To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Return-Path: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sender: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Precedence: Bulk List-Software: LetterRip 2.0 by Fog City Software, Inc. List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:requests@pipechat.org?subject=unsubscribe%20pipechat> List-Subscribe: <mailto:requests@pipechat.org?subject=subscribe%20pipechat>  
(back) Subject: Re: Gallanti Midi Box From: GHamil9709@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:26:17 -0400 (EDT)   In a message dated 97-07-25 14:37:21 EDT, you write:   << Unlike the Allen MIDI expander module, I was told that with the Gallanti, you can have multiple stops engaged on each of 3 separate MIDI channels. >>   There is another expander module available.... the EXR150 by Viscount.... which provides real time "stop" changes, settable general pistons and the ability to register a number of voices on either of two manuals or pedals...etc. I have one which sounds pretty good.   Gene Hamilton Indianapolis, IN