(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic postings (Was: Home pipe organ??) From: Alan K Baker <alan@senora.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 16:51:56 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII   On Sat 26 Jul, GHamil9709@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-25 22:53:11 EDT, you write: > > << PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> > > If this is the true, it would seem that any objection to the posting of organ > related topics not strictly a "pipe-type" would be out of order! > > I read them ALL with interest! Gene Hamilton Indianapolis, IN   The original complaint was about a posting that was off-topic with its own subject line. It didn't bother me personally, but I can see that some might get upset.   Surely the purpose of PipeChat is not to be taken literally, but in the spirit of the rule. ISTM to me that it was designed to accept discussion about the pipe *sound* whether real or synthetic, and its methods of production, which would encompass some electronics. IASTM that it was designed to preclude discussion about what can loosely be described as *keyboards*, i.e. Technics, Yamaha et al.     Regards,   Alan   -- Alan K Baker (WurliTzer Willy) www.senora.demon.co.uk    
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic postings (Was: Home pipe organ??) From: danbel@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 06:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"   > IASTM that it was designed to preclude discussion >about what can loosely be described as *keyboards*, i.e. Technics, Yamaha et al. >Regards, >Alan   I sincerely hope that this is NOT true!!!!!!!!!!!   Dan    
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic postings (Was: Home pipe organ??) From: MFulk70776@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 09:47:35 -0400 (EDT)   In a message dated 97-07-27 09:23:58 EDT, you write:   << > IASTM that it was designed to preclude discussion >about what can loosely be described as *keyboards*, i.e. Technics, Yamaha et al. >Regards, >Alan I sincerely hope that this is NOT true!!!!!!!!!!! Dan >> Why not just put all of this to bed and "give it a rest"  
(back) Subject: Admin - Off Topic Postings! From: PipeChat-Admin <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 07:03:35 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"   Hi everyone,   I am finally back in town after three weeks of wandering around the country. Thanks to Shirley for holding the fort while I was away.   The small thread that is running at the moment called "Off-topic Postings" is clearly answered in the purpose statement found on Pipechat's hompeage at http://www.pipechat.org   Please do not clog up everyone's mail boxes by discussion on this off topic topic as it is something that has been clearly set by the list owners.   Take care, and happy chatting!   Pete!   Dr. Peter Pocock List Administrator and Co-Owner  
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic postings (Was: Home pipe organ??) From: GHamil9709@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 11:22:34 -0400 (EDT)   In a message dated 97-07-27 09:23:59 EDT, you write:   << IASTM that it was designed to preclude discussion >about what can loosely be described as *keyboards*, i.e. Technics, Yamaha et al. >Regards, >Alan I sincerely hope that this is NOT true!!!!!!!!!!! >>   I do not own a keyboard. If it develops that the premise IS TRUE, it becomes clear to me that I should unsubscribe.   Gene hamilton                
(back) Subject: Home pipe organs (long) From: "Lowell Johnson" <LJOHN1247@msn.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 97 16:01:20 UT   Recent threads about obtaining older small unit organs resonated with me.   In 1967, I purchased a 1938 Wicks "backward 4." My wife was tolerant, my daughters were ages 5, 6 and 7 and I was working full time.   There were 4 ranks: 8' stopped flute, 85 pipes 8' diapason, 49 pipes from tenor C 8' salicional, 61 pipes, t.c. 8' dulciana, 49 pipes, t.c. 16' reed box, 12 notes   The organ service man that I bought it from set it up temporarily in the family room. Over the next 28 years I reinstalled it in two different locations in my house, changed wiring, added pipes, etc. It ended up being a 7 rank organ of very mixed parentage.   When I obtained the organ, the pipes, windchest and interior console parts were in good condition and unaltered. The diapason was much louder than the rest of the pipes and of course below t.c. borrowed from the much softer flute. The diapason was not wired to the pedal at 4', The reed box had an entirely different type of sound (like a fractional reed) than the stopped flute. The salicional was of such small scale that it could cut glass. The dulciana was very sweet sounding but ended at t.c. with no flute bass wired.   By 1988, I had added 8' principal (85 new pipes), new 2' harmonic flute (61 new pipes), old Vox Humana 8' and old 16' bourdon (30 pipes).   Finally in 1993, I purchased a new Allen MDS-35 digital (church type) organ. I ended up playing the Allen most of the time and so I sold the pipe organ parts.   The point of this long story is not to praise the Allen or to say that digital is better than or equal to pipes. I would still rather have a pipe organ at home, The problem was that I started with a certain type of pipe organ and in spite of all the additions and changes the resulting sound did not satisfy me musically.   I would love to have a pipe organ of 6 to 9 ranks at home. The only obstacle is $$$!   Lowell  
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic postings (Was: Home pipe organ??) From: MFulk70776@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:11:48 -0400 (EDT)   In a message dated 97-07-27 11:25:09 EDT, you write:   << I sincerely hope that this is NOT true!!!!!!!!!!! >> I do not own a keyboard. If it develops that the premise IS TRUE, it becomes clear to me that I should unsubscribe. Gene hamilton >> From somebody who easily gets hot......let's all cool down....ease up......relax.....count to ten.....there's  
(back) Subject: Re: Home pipe organs (long) From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:02:23 -0400 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT   Geez! Here I go again! Regarding Lowell's home pipe organ. My suspicion is that because of the mixed parentage, and stops having to do double-, yea, even triple- or worse-duty; that the sound would become unsatisfactory and unrewarding. Two stops, finely voiced AND PLACED IN A CASE are far more satisfactory that 7+ ranks sitting on a chest and extended to hell and back. If the Diapason has been either softened, or replaced with another rank and blended with stopped basses, it would have worked. If the Hook boys can do it, so can we. Unification is something that those in my generation (c1948) have grown up with and often accept. I loved it for years, until I learned that I was not listening to the number of knobs. I can see how an electronic/digital substitute could be more rewarding to play. I have heard pipe organs that would send me back to playing clarinet if there were not other choices. The critical part of any organ is the integrity of the design and voicing, and singularity of each voice. If it is one well voiced stop is probably can do many things; if it is one stop "designed" to do many things it probably won't be able to do much of anything well. I live with this weekly; there is a one manual A David Moore at 1st Presby (chapel) recently featured in the cover of The Diapason which I would much rather play weekly (but they don't want to loan it out!). I have assured my organ committee that the first consideration for the new organ is integrity of design and tonal finishing to include the casework. If I want bells and whistles, I go use the %($%&$^% synthesizer! See ya (lunch time)     o o Bruce Cornely o o o o ______________ o o OHS ======================== AGO  
(back) Subject: Re: Opinion wanted on Ahlborn (Was: Off-topic postings [Was: Home pipe organ??]) From: SCoonrod@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:12:42 -0400 (EDT)   Stuart: I have heard the module, through headphones only. The sounds are compatible with current good electronic organ sounds. I suspect if the audio system was good that it would be quite acceptable. RandyT  
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic postings (Was: Home pipe organ??) From: MFulk70776@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:07:19 -0400 (EDT)   In a message dated 97-07-27 12:15:22 EDT, you write:   << I do not own a keyboard. If it develops that the premise IS TRUE, it becomes clear to me that I should unsubscribe. Gene hamilton >> From somebody who easily gets hot......let's all cool down....ease up......relax.....count to ten.....there's room for us all in God's kingdom.    
(back) Subject: Last instrument completed by W. Holtkamp Senior? From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:17:42 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Randy T Wrote:   >Dave....The organ I was speaking is a @50 rank 1963 Holtkamp (Walter, > Jr. actually finished the design and installation of this instrument. > Betty Louise Lumby was the consultant) at St. Luke's Episcopal Church, > Birmingham, AL..... RandyT   Greetings from the "Corn Patch"   I was always under the impression that the last instrument completed by Walter Senior was the one in St. John's Abbey Church in Colleville, MN. This information was due to a comment made on a Pipedreams program (actually, I think it was the Pipedreams premiere program featuring Todd Wilson!) indicating such. I don't know the varasity of that statement, but tend to respect the scholarship of J. Michael Barone as something not to be dismissed out of hand. . .   Anyone else know more accurately? (WTVP??)   Curious minds want to know. . .   Faithfully, -- ~ ~ ~ / ^ ^ \ ~ ~ { (X) (X) } ~ --------oOOOo--------U-------oOOOo------------   "Arp" SWELTERING in the "Corn Patch" Rich Schneider SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders SNAILMAIL:41-43 Johnston Street P.O. Box 137 Kenney, Il 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX EMAIL: mailto:arpncorn@dave-world.net  
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic postings (Was: Home pipe organ??) From: Alan K Baker <alan@senora.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:46:58 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII   On Sun 27 Jul, danbel@earthlink.net wrote: > > IASTM that it was designed to preclude discussion > >about what can loosely be described as *keyboards*, i.e. Technics, Yamaha > et al. > >Regards, > >Alan > > I sincerely hope that this is NOT true!!!!!!!!!!!   Why Dan?   It *is* called PipeChat, which does infer pipes et al. If it was called MusicChat KeybChat or SynthChat, I could see the problem. :-)     Regards,   Alan   -- Alan K Baker (WurliTzer Willy) www.senora.demon.co.uk    
(back) Subject: Re: Last instrument completed by W. Holtkamp Senior? From: SCoonrod@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:30:39 -0400 (EDT)   Actually, the St. Luke's, Bham, instrument was on the drawing board when Walter, Sr. died. It was to have been his next project. Walter, Jr. finished the design, construction, and installation. Hope my comments were not misleading! RandyT  
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic postings (Was: Home pipe organ??) From: Alan K Baker <alan@senora.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:01:21 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII   On Sun 27 Jul, GHamil9709@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-27 09:23:59 EDT, you write: > > << IASTM that it was designed to preclude discussion > >about what can loosely be described as *keyboards*, i.e. Technics, Yamaha > et al. > >Regards, > >Alan > > I sincerely hope that this is NOT true!!!!!!!!!!! > >> > > I do not own a keyboard. If it develops that the premise IS TRUE, it becomes > clear to me that I should unsubscribe.   Having just re-read the pipechat.org front page, I think that I am correct, as it says "pipe/digital/electronic organs" *not* keyboards as such. Is it that you wish to discuss keyboards or not? If not, then you have merely misunderstood my use of the word *preclude*.   I don't want to act as flame bait for a keyboards versus organs war folks, so please let's keep it peaceful and not start that one. :-)   Neither was it my intention to upset anyone. It was merely my interpretation of the rules. Always willing to be wrong. :-)   Regards,   Alan   -- Alan K Baker (WurliTzer Willy) www.senora.demon.co.uk    
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic postings (Was: Home pipe organ??) From: PipeChat-Admin <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:32:25 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"   At 09:01 PM 7/27/97 +0100, you wrote: >I don't want to act as flame bait for a keyboards versus organs war folks, so >please let's keep it peaceful and not start that one. :-)   Alan, you are acting as flame bait, regardless of whether you want to or not. As I have said both publicly and in email privately to you, please stop any further responses on this off=topic posting. Policy is set and is clear. > Pete! "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat-A discussion List re: pipe/digital organs and related topics Homepage: http://www.pipchat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Admin: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic postings (Was: Home pipe organ??) From: danbel@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"     >Why Dan? > >It *is* called PipeChat, which does infer pipes et al. >If it was called MusicChat KeybChat or SynthChat, I could see the problem. :-) > > >Regards, > >Alan   I could VERY easily repeat all the reasons why but I do not think the majority of listmembers wish to hear all that yet again.   Basically it's not worth my energy. Minds that are seemingly this closed are rarely opened with logic and reason..   Dan    
(back) Subject: Apology! And a reminder! From: PipeChat-Admin <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:48:25 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"   Hi Everyone,   My apologies to the list and to Alan, the email I sent to the list should have gone to him privately. I am not completely used to the new system yet.   As it has gone to the list let me remind everyone, that Pipechat is about Pipe Organs, Digital Organs, Electronic Organs, and related topics. The policy is very clear.   Yes, the policy is very broad, and has been deliberately set that way so that discussion is "safe" and not stifling. However, the policy does not include discussion on "what this list is about." As I said above, it is clear and has been set for a long time, and from Shirley's and my perspective it will remain as it is.   Thanks for being a part of Pipechat, Pipe Up and Be Heard!   Pete!     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat-A discussion List re: pipe/digital organs and related topics Homepage: http://www.pipchat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Admin: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Dust blown out of new Pipe Organ! From: Craig Elders <MIS0003C@tcuavm.is.tcu.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 97 18:44:28 CDT     Good Sunday Evening to ya'll!   A month or so ago I wrote about the new church pipe organ project I had worked on for some 4 years now. I wrote about working many many days and hours each week voicing for some 9 months now on the new instrument. On Sunday, July 6, I got to blow the dust out of the organ for the church. The church's organists was going out of town and they wanted me to come and "show" it off. Well, they did not have to ask twice. It was so much fun to play the organ and to show the congregation what they now have after that long 5 year wait. Their organists is a great "keyboard"/piano musician, but she has not had much experience on a pipe organ, especially a big one. So, she has not done much with it the few weeks that it has been used. But now, she is ready to start working with someone to "learn" what she has - a nice new III/65 pipe organ!   I started with the Vierne Finale (from Symphonie I) and my postlude was the Widor 5th. I did a Bach Choral for Communion, that is 1/2 of the communion. The other 1/2 was for me to doodle around using every solo stop, flute, string, celeste, etc. possible - even the glockenspiel, celeste, and other percussion. That was fun. I tried not to have anything set for those last 5 minutes so I could just "wing" it. That has always been scary for me, but it worked out very nice.   I have always enjoyed playing hymns. The minister asked if I was going to try to play Methodists. I told him no, that they were just going to have to sing Baptist, and they did. What fun! With all the organ has on it, it was fun to have so many "colors" to add to the singing. The en Chamade Trumpet even found the melody line on a few verses. Afterwards so many said that the congregation had never sang like that before. (I would like to think it was my playing, but believe it showed how a fine instrument can "lead" in a worship service and not just be there to only accompany.)   My first big shock was when I released the last chord of the Vierne, I hit a piston for some soft registration to get to a quieter "mood" to begin the worship service. But to my surprise, all I heard was a loud round of applause followed by the minister walking to the microphone and thanked me for all the work and for "showing" them what they now had. Needless to say, it was a wonderful day for me and know it will be just the beginning of such a magnificent addition to their worship and music programs.   There is still work to be done on the organ. But, this summer, the builder that is doing this for "his church", has had a couple of projects that has taken most of his summer and we have not worked on it lately. Almost everything is complete and voiced. There are a few ranks that still need some work and will be completed as soon as time permits. (Like the Swell 8' Tuba. Jim, the builder, is not happy with it and wants to do some major work on it. The Swell 4' Hohlflote was not what he wanted and he finally pulled it and took it back to his shop). A few things to work on, but all those months of voicing got the other 60+ ranks "together" and what a sound!   What a treat it was to play a new instrument that is as beautiful to look at as it is to hear. And know that 4 years of my life has gone into building it. I don't know of many other things where one can see and hear their work and know it will be around for many many many decades! (You builders, I can maybe understand now a little of the "pride" that is attached "to" a new pipe organ!)   Thanks for your time and have a Great/Swell week to come!     Craig Elders C.Elders@TCU.edu  
(back) Subject: Re: Apology! And a reminder!/ Just want to clarify/ confused From: MFulk70776@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 19:52:03 -0400 (EDT)   In a message dated 97-07-27 18:49:37 EDT, you write:   << As it has gone to the list let me remind everyone, that Pipechat is about Pipe Organs, Digital Organs, Electronic Organs, and related topics. The policy is very clear. Yes, the policy is very broad, and has been deliberately set that way so that discussion is "safe" and not stifling. However, the policy does not include discussion on "what this list is about." As I said above, it is clear and has been set for a long time, and from Shirley's and my perspective it will remain as it is. Thanks for being a part of Pipechat, Pipe Up and Be Heard! Pete! I am all mixed up. I am not angry at anybody, but just want to be clear. Is it OK to say something about keyboards or not? I have some keyboards, but it never occurred to me to talk about them, and as a matter of fact, I do not have anything I even want to say to Pipechat about them, but I just want to know if it is "verboten" or not. TIA, Mike  
(back) Subject: Re: Apology! And a reminder!/ Just want to clarify/ confused From: danbel@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 19:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"     > I am all mixed up. > I am not angry at anybody, but just want to be clear. >Is it OK to say something about keyboards or not?   Mike,   My understanding is that it would be fine to talk about keyboards. I am sure I will hear about it if I am incorrect.   Dan    
(back) Subject: FWD: Movie Theater in Memphis, TN -- Organ??? From: "Dr. Peter G. Pocock" <pgpocock@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:10:55 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"   This is a fowarded message from our homepage. If anyone can help this person with their question, please reply directly to Kevin Lee, not to the list, thanks,   Pete!   =========FORWARDED MESSAGE==========   Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:17:19 -0700 (PDT) From: sromem@aol.com Reply-to: sromem@aol.com To: pgpocock@ix.netcom.com Subject: PipeChat Web Page Message   I am with a nonprofit group trying to renovate a Circa 1926 movie theater in Memphis, TN. There was once a pipe organ of some kind. Do you have any suggestions as to where I might go to try and track down what type of organ it was and if it could be replaced?   Please let me know if you have any suggestions.   Thanks,   Kevin M. Lee          
(back) Subject: Re: Budding TO Interest:? (Was Re: Home pipe organ??) From: rusczyk@ix.netcom.com (Robert Rusczyk) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:53:43 -0500 (CDT)   Actually, the organ was installed by Wurlitzer in 1923 as Opus 723, not a transplant. It is 5 ranks as I recall with a piano style console......         You wrote: > >Thanks for the giggles, Shirley! At least they were for my "admission" >and not my playing! I'm in Gainesville, Fl; I think the closest TO's >are in Tampa/St. Pete. >However, for those scavengers out there, Springfield United Methodist >Church in Jacksonville FL is now closed and, I believe, the organ there >was one of the Wurlitzers in the Florida Theatre studios, or possibly >one in Five Points. There were actually four or five theatre organs >(maybe more) in Jacksonville, but they have the "push over, smash and >destroy" mentality there so they're all gone. The Florida Theatre was >actually given an option to purchase the old Wurlitzer back for the >auditorium, but didn't. > > > Bruce Cornely > o o o o o ______________ o o o o o > o o o o ______________ o o o o > o o o o o ______________ o o o o o >==================================== > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Question on 4 Weddgs & a Funeral From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:02:19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"   Last night, I caught a re-run of "Four Weddings and a Funeral," which I have always thought to be a delightful adult comedy. Anyway, as can be expected, I got to watch 3 'typical' (?) British weddings, and I was wondering if any of you knew where they took place, or were they done on a sound-stage made up to look like churches. Also, was somebody playing the real organ at those churches (if they were churches) and what kind of organs were they?   Andie Macdowell never looked better, IMHO (sigh!).   \/\/\    
(back) Subject: Re: Locked Consoles From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:48:46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"   Howdy,   I'm not going to bore y'all by re-hashing this subject, since I've seen it in various forms several times on this and the other list (I'm a lot older than my devilishly handsome young face would suggest), but....   I was recently called by the father of a bride. His only daughter was being married in a few days at Great Hills Baptist Church in northwest Austin, but the organist had bowed out at the last minute, citing family problems. He needed an organist desperately - would I do it? Since I didn't have anything planned, I said, "Sure! Let me call the church to see when I can practice." I hung up and called the church, only to be told that nobody, but NOBODY, played the organ except the organist, that she would not permit it under ANY circumstances. I explained the circumstances, but they would not budge. "Lemme call your organist," I said - "She's left town," they replied. "Look, ma'am, I've been playing organs in San Antonio and Austin for over 25 years - I've studied it in college, and I know how to take care of an instrument." "Nope!" was all she said, "It's not up to me. It's up to the organist."   I was really disappointed. Not only was I out the modest fee I charge for weddings, but I was not going to get an opportunity to play what I had heard was a really fine instrument.   I got to call the father of the bride and give him the sad news. "What should I do?" he wailed. I told him, "Gee, I don't know - y'wanna move it to another church? How does Methodist grab you? I can check at my church if you'd like..." No, he said he'd just get his sister to play the piano. Too bad.   So, I don't know if she reads this list, but the organist of that church should know not to waste her time coming to my church to play, since I've have asked that all substitute wedding organists call me first before they play. My list of persons not allowed to play has only one name on it - hers.   Thanks for letting me vent.   \/\/\    
(back) Subject: T.O.'s on Video From: nstarfil@mediaone.net (Stanley Lowkis) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:34:42 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Vernon's question about '4 Weddings..' suggested another one. What are some movies showing theater organs in performance? 'Yanks' and 'Frances' ,even 'Tommy' come to mind, each of which had brief scenes. There must be others. How about a taped T.O. Concert?   Stan      
(back) Subject: Re: T.O.'s on Video From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:11:56 -0400 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT   Speaking of organs in movies.... in "Interview with a Vampire" (Tom Cruise), there was a wonderful French-looking/sound (except for the console on the floor below) organ in the Theatre of the Vampires. It had nice reeds on it, and the acoustics in the place were rather nice. Could it have been an actual place or just one "hot-dog" set??? There have also been some very nice (albeit quick) shots of organs in Mystery and Miss Marple episodes on PBS, not to mention that one wonderful episode of Mr. Bean where he mumbled the verses of "Ye watchers and ye holy ones" and then screamed out the "Alleluias" because that's all he could remember. God save the British!   end   o o Bruce Cornely o o o o ______________ o o OHS ======================== AGO