PipeChat Digest #121 - Sunday, November 2, 1997 Noel Goemanne by <email@example.com> Re: to o-builders & o-techs. &AGO members by Jason D Comet <firstname.lastname@example.org> Baldwin Cimema III Questions by Gregory F. Klingler <klingler@IDT.NET> Bob Walker Digital Organ - Recital Nov.2 at 3 PM in NJ by Patricia R. Maimone <email@example.com>
(back) Subject: Noel Goemanne From: firstname.lastname@example.org Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 13:25:16 -0600 (CST) No doubt someone will eventually get around to this. Goemann wrote "Suite Gothique" and also "Partita on Simple Gifts." The "Suite" contains one of those "famous toccatas." The "Partita" can be performed on piano (dull) or organ ("funner"). Bob Nickel
(back) Subject: Re: to o-builders & o-techs. &AGO members From: email@example.com (Jason D Comet) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 09:55:01 -0500 >Building a pipe organ from scratch or even from used parts is a very >very >big job. It requires a large workshop and a lot of specialized tools >and >equipment. Plus a minimum of 7 years of training to even begin to >think >about building one yourself. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I think I've got 10 Years of training this pass summer. Repairing the 13 rank C.E. Morey Pipe organ in Bethany U.M. Church; reading books; studing different types of organs; buying $100.00(US) worth of CD's that have stop lists and studing the different sounds the organists use, try to identify them, and see if I can sopy them; tinker with my Conn electric 3 manual theatrette (notice THEATR"ETTE", and not THEATRE (no ette), it has a compass of an octave and a 5th (middle "C", sub octave "C", next "F" down.) to 2 octaves above middle "C" on the Choir (accomp.) and Solo (swell) and "F" after the 2 octave "C") [OKay, I got off the topic, I'm tired. I just got up.] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >A far better alternative to doing it yourself is to BUY a small USED >unit >organ or mini tracker that was built for a residence. These organs are >very >common and are easy to come across. The Organ Clearing House lists >small >organs all the time and most can be purchased for under $10,000.00 >U.S. >dollars - about the same price as a good piano or a "Toaster" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ yyyyyeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaa, but I have a professional who could help me build one if I needed him (and trust me, I'll be calling on him left and right.) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >I recently installed a 1970's 2 manual Moller organ of 2 1/2 ranks >with a >separate console and all pipes on display in a small church ( that >seats >about 50 people) in two days work. The total cost including purchase >shipping and installation was about 13,000.00 Canadian that's about >$9,000.00 U.S. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WHAT!!!!!!!???????? I JUST GOT MY CLASS RING AND IT COST $341.33(US). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get a >professional to install an organ for you!!! the savings in time, >material, >and fustration would be well worth the small extra cost. > >If the idea of spending $10,000.00 for an organ is WAAAAYYYYY!!!! to >much >at this time for you or your family to afford >(Remember you will want to start driving soon and College and the cost >of >having very expensive girlfriends is not far off. ) >and you wish to have a "I did it myself type project" you may wish to >think >about getting an old reed organ from one of the folks at the Reed >Organ >Society. > >An old reed organ can be purchased for a couple of hundred dollars and >can >be refinished and rebuilt by a person of limited training very >easily. >The cost of material and parts= under $100.00 and labour involved= >a few >weeks to a couple of months of work or so is much less than even the >smallest of rebuilding jobs on a pipe organ console alone . Thus you >will >have an organ to play on and something that you did yourself that >won't >cost you an arm and a leg and might even make your parents think > >"Thank God, We've got a normal kid!!" :-))))))) > >P.S. An "Old timer's comments" ( you really don't want to hear this >stuff >do you) :-)))) >When I was your age, ( loud groans here) my Dad always said: > >Remember this son, Never let your eye's get bigger than your stomach. > >I wish I'd remember that when I get myself into some big organ >projects. > >Keep the idea of getting an organ someday - It's a lot of fun and >someday >it can come true. > Have a good weekend and Practice Practice Practice!!! :-)))))) > > Nelson > ( who was 16 when he started servicing pipe organs by >himself and was >definitely "in over his head" and knew it but stuck >with it anyways) > >25 years later I'm still in over my head but now i've got a wife, >mortgage, >dog , cat, and debt. > >By the way. . . > Happy 15th Birthday soon!!!! > >Nelson E. Denton >R. A. Denton and Son >Pipe Organ Builders >Hamilton Ontario Canada > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org >Administration: mailto:email@example.com >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > >
(back) Subject: Baldwin Cimema III Questions From: "Gregory F. Klingler" <klingler@IDT.NET> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 19:44:26 -0500 Dear friends - Need some input here, I have been informed today that a Baldwin Cinema III (built 1987) is available for sale within my area. It's in fairly good condition, or so I've been told and I'm supposed to see / hear it this Monday (11-3-97). Questions I have are; How does it compare to a Theatre Organ (no snide remarks - just a comparison to other electronic 2 decker, i.e.; Conn, Rodgers, Allen, etc.)? How does it compare to a Conn 640, 641, 642, 643, etc? How does it compare to a Cinema II? And, most importantly, how much is it worth in the current market? Thanks, Gregory F. Klingler Organist - Gateway Cathedral Staten Island, New York PS - I've also been informed that a Conn 643 is for sale @ $1,500. Is this a decent price and / or, what's this organ really worth?
(back) Subject: Bob Walker Digital Organ - Recital Nov.2 at 3 PM in NJ From: email@example.com (Patricia R. Maimone) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 21:20:07 -0500 Brookside Community Church Sunday, November 2, 1997 Brookside, NJ (near Morristown) 3:00 PM (Route 287 to 124W) P R O G R A M Voluntary in A Major William Selby Chorale Prelude: Our Father, Who Art in Heaven Georg P. Telemann Suite on the First Tone Louis-Nicolas Cle'rambault Grand Plein Jeu Fugue in E Flat Major, BWV 552.2 (St. Anne) Johann Sebastian Bach Chorale Improvisation Paul Manz Come, O Fount of Every Blessing (Text and Tune: Hymn No. 459, black hymnal) Concerto in F Major, Opus 4, No. 5 Georg Frideric Handel Presto Voluntary on "Engelberg" Charles Callahan The New Century Hymnal *HYMN No. 561 When In Our Music God Is Glorified Engelberg Toccata in E Minor Johann Pachelbel Air in D Major J. S. Bach Prince of Denmark's March Jeremiah Clarke Twenty-four Pieces, Volume Two Louis Vierne Carillon Patricia R. Maimone, Organist Free will offering at the door