PipeChat Digest #132 - Friday, November 14, 1997
 
Re: Postings!
  by Vincent lefèvre <vlefevere@unicall.be>
Re: TOSDV trip to Dick Klein's
  by John A Widmann <jawidmann@juno.com>
Re: Postings!
  by <Ronnymn@aol.com>
Conn Organ Advice
  by <Theo08610@aol.com>
job questions
  by Kenneth O. Woods <kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil>
Re: Conn Organ Advice
  by Gregory F. Klingler <klingler@IDT.NET>
Pipe/Electronic Combos
  by <thomps21@eng.uab.edu>
Re: Conn Organ Advice
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos
  by Rick Anderson <rickan19@IDT.NET>
Re: Conn Organ Advice
  by Steven Margison <mgcfngrs@ameritech.net>
Re: Conn Organ Advice
  by <PipeLuvr@aol.com>
Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos
  by Paul F. Stapel <pstapel@spectra.net>
Re: job questions
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
ORGAN RECITAL (ENGLAND)
  by Richard Scott-Copeland <organist@interalpha.co.uk>
Re: Conn Organ Advice
  by Tom Hoehn <thoehn@hotmail.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Postings! From: " Vincent lefèvre" <vlefevere@unicall.be> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:37:14 +0100       Dr. Peter Pocock wrote:   > Hi everyone, > > It seems that from time to time we tend to go very quiet on PipeChat, t= hat > is, very little postings for numerous days. Some days there can be 35= or > 40 and others 1 or 2. > > PipeChat is a service provided free of charge by David and myself for y= our > benefit and use, however, it is not up to us to generate the topics. = That > is your responsibility, as long as the topics are within our guidelines. > > Now out of the 400 or so members of PipeChat, there must be more than o= ne > out there who have things that they have been wanting others opinions o= n in > relation to Pipe/Digital or Electronic organs and related topics. >   Pete, Thank you for the invitation. We would like, in the framework of our nonp= rofit association "Organs in Flanders", to open a special room "Pipe Organ Arts= " in the configuration "Bruges, Cultural Town of the year" in 2002. We are mak= ing a deal with the authorities to fill in this part of the animations, f.e. = by organising an international composition contest, by inviting concert organist from everywhere, by organising international organ builders' exhibition ..... In this respect it would be interesting to exchange right now propoals. A= s the French saying goes: "Du choc des id=E9es, jaillit la lumi=E8re" (the clash of op= inions brings enlightenment). The aim is to bring the whole organ world to this centrum= in 2002. Vincent Lef=E8vre, secretary Bruges (Belgium) vlefevere@unicall.be      
(back) Subject: Re: TOSDV trip to Dick Klein's From: jawidmann@juno.com (John A Widmann) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:15:27 EST   Next time you visit Frederick County, let me know ahead of time and you can tour the Joseph Dill Baker Carillon also, and maybe some organs in downtown Frederick (including an historic Roosevelt Tracker in the Episcopal Church)   John A Widmann City Carillonneur, City of Frederick, Maryland Director of Music, Saint Paul's Lutheran Church, Myersville, Maryland   On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:05:15 EST kwkeller@juno.com (KARL W KELLER) writes: >On November 11th I had the pleasure of traveling to Thurmont, Maryland >with 28 other members of the Delaware Valley Chapter (ATOS) to the >"cottage" of Dick Klein's which is located on the edge of a small lake >formed when a rock quarry flooded many years ago. Dick's home is >breathtaking to say the least and contains not one but two pipe >organs. The very large music room houses a 4/29 >Wurlitzer and a 6 rank (?) one manual tracker. The Wurlitzer is >maintained ...  
(back) Subject: Re: Postings! From: Ronnymn@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:41:53 -0500 (EST)   In a message dated 97-11-13 06:42:01 EST, vlefevere@unicall.be writes:   << > PipeChat is a service provided free of charge by David and myself for your > benefit and use, however, it is not up to us to generate the topics. That > is your responsibility, as long as the topics are within our guidelines. > >>     Were I female, I would say, "ouw, the above paragraph really gets my panties in a bunch! Since I am not, I will not comment further as I doubt it would be "within the guidelines" Ron  
(back) Subject: Conn Organ Advice From: Theo08610@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:21:39 -0500 (EST)       IF you had to choose between a CONN 651 (3 manual, analog, c.1973) or a CONN 646 (2 manual, digital, c. 1983) which would you choose. Both are for sale at the same price.   Thank! THEO  
(back) Subject: job questions From: kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil (Kenneth O. Woods) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 10:26:23 EST   I'm considering interviewing for an organist position which recently became available. My question to any of you is what should I ask the committee about the position. What surprises have you had after accepting a position because you didn't ask the right questions? What I know about the position is the usual stuff they put in the ad, one worship service, choir practice one evening and occasional special services. They state that it's a large congregation although I disagree with that assessment. I attended a worship sevice at this church during the past summer for the purpose of hearing the organ and spoke with the organist afterwards. It turns out she was a guest organist so I'm not certain if what she played represented the style of music expected at that church. They also state that the position represents about four hours a week. That gives me an indication of their perception of time required to prepare to play for a worship service is roughly equivalent to the time the ushers practice taking up the collection. However that is no different from my current situation. -- Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil  
(back) Subject: Re: Conn Organ Advice From: "Gregory F. Klingler" <klingler@IDT.NET> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:47:37 -0500   Theo & List,   I've been thinking the same thing as of late. I'd be interested in what the others out there think. Is the 646 really digital and how does it sound vs the 650 series organs?   Greg   Theo08610@aol.com wrote:   > IF you had to choose between a CONN 651 (3 manual, analog, c.1973) or a CONN > 646 (2 manual, digital, c. 1983) which would you choose. Both are for sale > at the same price. > > Thank! THEO > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Pipe/Electronic Combos From: thomps21@eng.uab.edu Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:04:43 -0600   OK, OK, I will be brave and post away. I have played two pipe/electronic combos. One was a Ruffatii/Rodgers and the other was a Rodgers/Rodgers. The pipes in these organs are only marginal at best (especially the reeds in the Ruffatii), but they make the things work. If you take away the pipes the whole thing falls on its face! If you have to play such an instrument, make sure you keep some pipes playing.   It might seem that I am a bit negative on pipe/electronic combos, but I think that this is the way of the future.   Stuart Thompson    
(back) Subject: Re: Conn Organ Advice From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:04:17   As an owner of a still-working Conn 651 with two pipe units, I'd say go with the 651. The analog sound is much closer to the T. O. sound than the digital instruments that followed it.   --Shirley   At 10:21 11/13/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >IF you had to choose between a CONN 651 (3 manual, analog, c.1973) or a CONN >646 (2 manual, digital, c. 1983) which would you choose. Both are for sale >at the same price. > >Thank! THEO    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos From: Rick Anderson <rickan19@IDT.NET> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:27:45 -0800   At 12:04 PM 11/13/97 -0600, you wrote: >OK, OK, I will be brave and post away. I have played two >pipe/electronic combos. One was a Ruffatii/Rodgers and the other was a >Rodgers/Rodgers. The pipes in these organs are only marginal at best >(especially the reeds in the Ruffatii), but they make the things work. >If you take away the pipes the whole thing falls on its face! If you >have to play such an instrument, make sure you keep some pipes playing. > >It might seem that I am a bit negative on pipe/electronic combos, but I >think that this is the way of the future. > >Stuart Thompson   Ruffatti/Rodgers combination organs were built in the mid-70s. This was the Rodgers Gemini Sereies of two, three and four manual organs with Ruffatti pipes. Since pipes produced the Great Principal Chorus, you definately needed pipes to make those instruments work. Rodgers electronics with Rodgers produced pipes (Rodgers/Rodgers) were built later up to 1982. You should hear what's being done now with pipes and Rodgers (since 1991) PDI electronics.   RICK        
(back) Subject: Re: Conn Organ Advice From: Steven Margison <mgcfngrs@ameritech.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:53:15 -0600   Theo08610@AOL.COM wrote: > IF you had to choose between a CONN 651 (3 manual, analog, c.1973) or a CONN 646 (2 manual, digital, c. 1983) which would you choose.   Well, IMHO, it would depend upon what your goals for the instrument are. If this is to be a performance or recording instrument, then go for the better sound which is probably the digital (though I have not heard either model myself). However, if this is a practice instrument for learning techniques and practicing selections to be played on an organ larger than 2 manuals, then by all means go for the three manual. |===================== Steve Margison =====================| |=== Staff Organist, Tivoli Theatre, Downers Grove, IL. ===| |Organs, Theatres, Ham Radio, Lots of things at my WebSite:| |==== http://www.ameritech.net/users/mgcfngrs/home.htm ====|  
(back) Subject: Re: Conn Organ Advice From: PipeLuvr@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:32:52 -0500 (EST)   I have the Conn 652, and couldn't part with the third manual! You might want to talk with Kevin Bateman at Organ Service Company in Indiana to see what he advises. Kevin was a Conn engineer when they were both designed.   Best of luck on your purchase!   Bob Acker pipeluvr@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos From: "Paul F. Stapel" <pstapel@spectra.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 23:35:10 -0500   11/13/97   Stuart,   If you haven't heard Bob Walker's, of WalkerTechnologies of Zionsville, Pennsylvania, digital work , you really should -- his add-ons far surpass anything Rodgers or Ruffatti has done as far as I know...there are quite a few operating all over the country -- you should call them at 610 966 2515. The WICKS company, which I represent here in upstate work is using the Walker technology to great success...even in Europe!! Paul Stapel Binghamton, nY 607 773 1495    
(back) Subject: Re: job questions From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 23:50:39 -0500   Kenneth, I do not feel that a committee can give an objective assessment of their own parish. Make an indendent judgement on your own about the parish, music program, staff and worship habits. Decide is what is there is something you can live with as it is; try to objectively consider what changes you might be able to make if you are the parish musician. I have seen instances when a person went into a position following someone who was said to be "wonderful and top knotch " only to find out that the music program was barely functioning and many people were dissatisfied. Basically, changing jobs is a crap shoot; you just have to throw the dice and hope you don't come up with snake eyes. Life is a gamble; that is part of the fun. One of the most exciting aspects of a new position is the challenge of the unknown. Proceed without expectations, get to know the parish personalities and worship habits, then find ways in which your particular talents can be used to enrich them. Move slowly and let the parish music and worship direct your direction.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: ORGAN RECITAL (ENGLAND) From: "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@interalpha.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 08:27:21 -0000   Richard Scott-Copeland (Organist to the Catholic Dean of Southampton)     Dear all     --------------------------------------FORTHCOMING ORGAN RECITAL------------------------------   An organ recital will be held at St Edmund's Roman Catholic Church, The Avenue, Southampton, England given by Phillip Harris (organist Jesus Chapel, Peartree Green) on the 3/54 Walker/Rushworth/Compton.   The programme is not finalised yet, but will include Bach, Boellmann, Karg Elert, Messian and others.   SATURDAY 22ND NOVEMBER 1997 (ST CECILIA'S DAY) 7-30PM START. ADMISSION 5 POUNDS/3.50 CONCESSIONS.   Refreshments will be available in the adjacent hall.   Please support this event, the proceeds of which will go towards maintaining this large and interesting organ.   Thank you   Richard Scott-Copeland    
(back) Subject: Re: Conn Organ Advice From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:48:49 PST   the 651. Much warmer sound.     ----Original Message Follows---- Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:21:39 -0500 (EST) From: Theo08610@aol.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Conn Organ Advice Reply-To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org>       IF you had to choose between a CONN 651 (3 manual, analog, c.1973) or a CONN 646 (2 manual, digital, c. 1983) which would you choose. Both are for sale at the same price.   Thank! THEO   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org         ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com