PipeChat Digest #134 - Sunday, November 16, 1997
 
Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos
  by Paul F. Stapel <pstapel@spectra.net>
Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos
  by <NFexec@aol.com>
Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Responses to job question
  by Gregory F. Klingler <klingler@IDT.NET>
Virgil Fox Recording
  by John A Widmann <jawidmann@juno.com>
Re: Virgil Fox Recording
  by Guy Henderson <gfhenderson@earthlink.net>
Looking for Conn Pipe
  by <Theo08610@aol.com>
Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos
  by Paul F. Stapel <pstapel@spectra.net>
Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos
  by Paul F. Stapel <pstapel@spectra.net>
Re: Virgil Fox Recording
  by <Giwro@aol.com>
RE: Organ Records
  by Duncan Charig <charigd@illawarra.starway.net.au>
RE:  See amid the Winter's snow.
  by Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos From: "Paul F. Stapel" <pstapel@spectra.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 00:44:33 -0500   November 14, 1997   I REPEAT ---- those of you who have not heard, IN PERSON, Bob Walker digitally recorded pipes. should do so-- it will change your opinion of what the newer electronics can do.. speakers ARE the limitation, of course--- the organ we have locally is all pipe on the Great , half pipe on the Swell, all digital in Choir and all digital except 16' principal in the pedal.Total 17 real ranks and 36 digital ranks. Always in tune ( ALL reeds are digital ---)creates a problem with any duo piano/organ work...although the electronic part of the organ can be tuned to anything, of course.   Further, you can add or change stops as needed, (have to add more amps and speakers if enlarging) and replacing speakers is EASY as compared to re-building pipes!!   Pipes always win, when well done...but the cost is about triple or more than digital equivelents>>>   Paul Stapel Binghamton, NY Sales Director, WICKS Organ Company, up-mid-state New York 607 773 1495 --      
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos From: NFexec@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:18:27 -0500 (EST)   I recently asked our "members" on Pipechat for opinions on Rogers/Allen theatre organs. A number of persons advised me to contact Bob Walker, as any of you who have been reading this topic have heard about several times. I would like to add my two cents. The recording they sent me (just call and explain your interest for the sample CD and literature) was a very pleasant surprise. The classic organ is warmer, more realistic, and even more thrilling than Rogers or Allen - period. The theatre organ was the most incredible electronic I've ever heard. They will do augmentation to pipe organs, whether a single rank or several. They also build complete organs; however, you supply the console. They do just the electronics, speakers, etc. It is a remarkable product built by a small group of extraordinary 21st century craftsmen.  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:18:05   At 00:44 11/15/97 -0500, you wrote:   >I REPEAT ---- those of you who have not heard, IN PERSON, Bob Walker >digitally recorded pipes. should do so-- it will change your opinion of >what the newer electronics can do..   >Pipes always win, when well done...but the cost is about triple or more than >digital equivelents>>> > >Paul Stapel >Binghamton, NY >Sales Director, WICKS Organ Company, up-mid-state New York >607 773 1495 --     Ya know? You really have to sit up and take notice of a post like this when it's made by someone who represents a pipe organ manufacturer. Speaks volumes about Walker's work.   Paul makes the comment that pipes always win, when well done. Electronics can be OK if well done. And unfortunately for many of us, we've heard too many pipe/electronic combinations that are dreadful.   However, Bob Walker does things *right*, seems to me. The man knows his stuff.   --Shirley      
(back) Subject: Re: Responses to job question From: "Gregory F. Klingler" <klingler@IDT.NET> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 17:16:51 -0500   <HTML> bruce cornely wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Kenneth, <BR>>depends upon which part of the water <BR>>glass your looking at.....   <P>Optimist:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the glass is half full <BR>Pessimist:&nbsp; the glass is half empty <BR>Realist:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; there's a crack in this damn glass!</BLOCKQUOTE>   <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>   <P>&nbsp; bruce cornely&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o o o __________&nbsp; o o o <BR>&nbsp;ago&nbsp; (dean)&nbsp;&nbsp; ohs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o o&nbsp;&nbsp; __________&nbsp;&nbsp; o o <BR>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE> Add to that list the following:   <P>Optometrist:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What type of frames do you want with that / these glass(es)? <BR>Chemist:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What can I put in this glass without breaking it? <BR>Sexist:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; That glass belongs home doing the dishes!! <BR>Psychiatrist:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; How long have you been thinking of <I>"this glass"?</I> <BR>Racist:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; How come the water in this glass isn't colored? <BR>Selfist:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hey, that's MY GLASS! <BR>Alcoholic:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Will this <I>glllaaaassss</I> hold a pint? <BR>Teacher:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Okay, who took the glass? <BR>Polition:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A <B>free glass</B><I> </I>for everyone who wants one! <BR>Physician&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Have you had a reaction to that glass? <BR>Pharmacist:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you have a prescription for that glass? <BR>Thief:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <I>What glass??</I> <BR>Admirer:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What a Glass!! <BR>&nbsp;He, He - Greg <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;   <P>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" <BR>PipeChat:&nbsp; A&nbsp; discussion List for pipe/digital organs &amp; related topics <BR>HOMEPAGE : <A HREF="http://www.pipechat.org">http://www.pipechat.org</A> <BR>List: <A HREF="mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org</A> <BR>Administration:&nbsp; <A HREF="mailto:admin@pipechat.org">mailto:admin@pipechat.org</A> <BR>Subscribe/Unsubscribe:&nbsp; <A HREF="mailto:requests@pipechat.org">mailto:requests@pipechat.org</A></BLOCKQUOTE> &nbsp;</HTML>    
(back) Subject: Virgil Fox Recording From: jawidmann@juno.com (John A Widmann) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:02:27 EST   Hi. Just wondering if any of you know if this organ exists any more...   I just came back from my church's spaghetti dinner and auction with a Virgil Fox recording made with the "COMMAND master recorded on 35/mm magnetic film" method. The recording was made in January, 1963 as part of the inaugural recording series of the Philharmonic Hall Organ at the Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts in New York City. The organ was completed by Aeolian-Skinner in the Summer of 1962, and received its debut in December of 1962, and featured six divisions, including the Pedal, a total of 98 ranks. On the recording, Fox played Bach's Passacaglia and Fugue in C minor, Messiaen's Dieu Parmi Nous, and Franck's Grand Piece Symphonique.   What I find most interesting, as I also have a digital recording of Fox (one of his last recordings, but one of the first digital recordings made), is the extent that Fox went out of his way to find the cutting-edge recording technology each time he made a recording. So many of these original recordings I have found proclaim the wonders of some "new" technology that is being used to record Virgil Fox.   John A Widmann City Carillonneur, City of Frederick, Maryland Director of Music, Saint Paul's Lutheran Church, Myersville, Maryland  
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil Fox Recording From: Guy Henderson <gfhenderson@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 19:44:59   At 10:02 PM 11/15/97 EST, you wrote: >Hi. Just wondering if any of you know if this organ exists any more...   Indeed it does at the Crystal Cathedral.   >I just came back from my church's spaghetti dinner and auction with a >Virgil Fox recording made with the "COMMAND master recorded on 35/mm >magnetic film" method. The recording was made in January, 1963 as part >of the inaugural recording series of the Philharmonic Hall Organ at the >Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts in New York City. The organ was >completed by Aeolian-Skinner in the Summer of 1962, and received its >debut in December of 1962, and featured six divisions, including the >Pedal, a total of 98 ranks. On the recording, Fox played Bach's >Passacaglia and Fugue in C minor, Messiaen's Dieu Parmi Nous, and >Franck's Grand Piece Symphonique. > >What I find most interesting, as I also have a digital recording of Fox >(one of his last recordings, but one of the first digital recordings >made), is the extent that Fox went out of his way to find the >cutting-edge recording technology each time he made a recording. So many >of these original recordings I have found proclaim the wonders of some >"new" technology that is being used to record Virgil Fox.   The digital recording was made at the Garden Grove Community Church ( later to become the Crystal Cathedral). Virgil was doing Direct to Disk at that time. I was there during the sessions and there was the funny little man with some weird device he called a "digital tape recorder" hooked to the line going to the cutting lathes for the 33's.     >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >  
(back) Subject: Looking for Conn Pipe From: Theo08610@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:56:46 -0500 (EST)       In the market for a center and middle set of Conn Electro-Pipes! Need center,if others are not available.   Thanks, TED  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos From: "Paul F. Stapel" <pstapel@spectra.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 00:07:48 -0500   At 02:51 AM 11/15/97 -0500, you wrote: >Paul Stapel, you mentioned Bob Walker's digital pipes. Does his work >include theatre organs?   Nov 15, 1997 I don't speak for Walker Technology's current status, I just know how good it was three years ago and I am sure it is better now. Call him..his staff or engineer can fill you in... he can do any typoe organ you want including building one from scratch although I think he doesn't build consoles(??) As I understood it, Walker was one of the original designers of digital organs, left to do it better, and did.. maybe the others are catching up but there is a cost involved, of course --- Costs are probably coming down as memory capacity goes up, of course.   They are worth checking out..!!   Paul Stapel    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe/Electronic Combos From: "Paul F. Stapel" <pstapel@spectra.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 00:10:03 -0500   2:51 AM 11/15/97 -0500, you wrote: >Paul Stapel, you mentioned Bob Walker's digital pipes.   Are there any recordings avaiable of his work?   Probably a bunch -- WICKS Organs has demos of their instruments which include Walker pipe work.. Call 618 654 2191 and ask for Jack Jenkins or Scott Wick who can arrange to get you a recording -- u nless you live in upstate New York in which case I can get you a cassette.. Paul Stapel\ 607 773 1495    
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil Fox Recording From: Giwro@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 23:51:36 -0500 (EST)   In a message dated 97-11-15 23:46:14 EST, you write:   << Hi. Just wondering if any of you know if this organ exists any more... I just came back from my church's spaghetti dinner and auction with a Virgil Fox recording made with the "COMMAND master recorded on 35/mm magnetic film" method. The recording was made in January, 1963 as part of the inaugural recording series of the Philharmonic Hall Organ at the Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts in New York City. >>   If I remember correctly, it does still exist - as part of the behemoth in the Crystal Cathedral.   Jonathan  
(back) Subject: RE: Organ Records From: Duncan Charig <charigd@illawarra.starway.net.au> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:12:36 +1100    
(back) Subject: Organ records From: markq@mail.flex.com.au (Mark Quarmby) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 00:18:32 +1000   Dear List,     Cheers from Sydney where it has been 35 degrees Celsius today (about 96F) and where one of the choirs I accompany was rehearsing "See amid the winter's snow" for Christmas!!!     Mark      
(back) Subject: RE: See amid the Winter's snow. From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 04:32:17 -0500   At 04:12 PM 11/16/97 +1100, you wrote:   >Cheers from Sydney where it has been 35 degrees Celsius today (about 96F) >and where one of the choirs I accompany was rehearsing "See amid the >winter's snow" for Christmas!!! > > >Mark   Mark, and the list:   If you want a taste of the real stuff, and cold temperatures to go with it, just bring your choir to North East U.S.A. or Ontario in Canada! We have what one might call a surplus of the fluffy white stuff!   What must 35 Celsius be like in mid-November!   I would rather be singing "This Joyful Eastertide" with the hopes of warmer weather soon to come!   From a cold and snowy Kingston, Ontario, Canada.       Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Classics Director and Organic DeeJay CFRC-FM 101.9 MHz Radio Queen's University Kingston, Ontario, K7L 3N6 CANADA