PipeChat Digest #145 - Wednesday, November 26, 1997
 
Disney
  by Bob Luderer <bobsled@nji.com>
Interest west of the Atlantic
  by <DM726@delphi.com>
Re: David Drury
  by <Mattcinnj@aol.com>
Ode to T-Day!
  by Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com>
Re: Screen Savers
  by <JBC708@aol.com>
Re: Electronic Tremolo
  by Jason D Comet <krummhorn8@juno.com>
Re: Electronic Tremolo
  by David Neal <david@neal.u-net.com>
Re: Screen Savers
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Electronic Tremolo
  by David Neal <david@neal.u-net.com>
Re: David Drury
  by Mark Huth <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com>
Price of Instruments Nowadays!
  by Jason D Comet <krummhorn8@juno.com>
Re: Electronic Tremolo
  by <MFulk70776@aol.com>
Organ Pics - FTP
  by David Scribner <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Beauty and the Beast
  by Sheridan Mascall <sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au>
 


(back) Subject: Disney From: Bob Luderer <bobsled@nji.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:35:27 -0500   Went to see Anastasia this weekend with my kids. Absolutely beautiful movie. Historically inaccurate and atrocious. Wonderful music.   Pseudo-Disney has created a fairy tale. I wonder how many kids will know have trouble in history class because they get all the facts surrounding the Russian Revolution mixed up with this story.   It really is very nice, but they created extra characters and mad Rasputin into an evil sorcerer. Oh well. Nice fairy tale, guess if we want historical accuracy we need to go to the History channel, eh?      
(back) Subject: Interest west of the Atlantic From: DM726@delphi.com Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:26:09 -0500 (EST)   I too have found this discussion interesting and informative. Its always interesting to hear what goes on elsewhere. Dave McPeak  
(back) Subject: Re: David Drury From: Mattcinnj@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:39:50 -0500 (EST)   Hi Mark,   This is Matt in NJ . I have a question and hope you can help. I have recently sold my Allen 8350 (August) and hope to get another organ within 6 months. When Allen came out with the Rennaisance series, I thought I would wait a bit to see if Rodgers was coming out with something new. My question is ........ when does Rodgers announce their new products ......... is it like Allen at their annual May meeting ????? Or does it just happen at no particular time ? I am starting to get "itchy" about getting a new instrument and I just found out that the Rennaisance series has only 16 notes of polyphony ........ which I think is too little for creating Midi sequences. As I recall Rodgers is more (64 ???) and this is one of the reasons I am waiting.   Any info you can give would be appreciated.   Thanks   Matt.      
(back) Subject: Ode to T-Day! From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:45:00 -0600   * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ODE TO THANKSGIVING * * * * 'Twas the night of Thanksgiving, but I just couldn't sleep * * I tried counting backwards, I tried counting sheep. * * The leftovers beckoned-- the dark meat and white, * * But I fought the temptation with all of my might. * * Tossing and turning with anticipation, * * The thought of a snack became infatuation. * * So, I raced to the kitchen, flung open the door * * And gazed at the fridge, full of goodies galore. * * I gobbled up turkey and buttered potatoes, * * Pickles and carrots, beans and tomatoes. * * I felt myself swelling so plump and so round, * * 'Til all of a sudden, I rose off the ground. * * I crashed through the ceiling, floating into the sky * * With a mouthful of pudding and a handful of pie * * But, I managed to yell as I soared past the trees,... * * "Happy eating to all---pass the cranberries, please!" * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *      
(back) Subject: Re: Screen Savers From: JBC708@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:40:38 -0500 (EST)   Hi, I have been watching the screen savers and pictures of organs. If anyone has any and the time to send I would appreciate it. Thanks John JBC708@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Electronic Tremolo From: krummhorn8@juno.com (Jason D Comet) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:21:25 -0500   >Anyone out there know where I can etither buy, get schematics to >build, >etc. a GOOD, THROBBING electronic tremolo (for Theatre Organ) to >replace >the need for a mechanical leslie? Any help / ideas would be greatly >appreciated. Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have a brochure for a "modern" leslie speaker. It's from Motion Sound.   I will give you the address at the close of this letter. I haven't heard the speakers for myself, but it looks like they are pretty good speakers. The treble is a rotary horn, and the low freq;uency is an electronic tremulant. They sent me several different models.   Here is the address and phone #.   4426 South 450 West Suite G Salt Lake City, Utah 84123   Phone: 801.265.0917 Fax: 801.265.0978   Good Luck!   Jason Comet Krummhorn8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Re: Electronic Tremolo From: "David Neal" <david@neal.u-net.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:10:33 -0000   Does Devtronics still do theirs... it will designed as an organ component so it could be better than a guitar tremolo unit.   Devtronics details are probably on the MITA site - I can't find it right now.   >Anyone out there know where I can etither buy, get schematics to build, >etc. a GOOD, THROBBING electronic tremolo (for Theatre Organ)    
(back) Subject: Re: Screen Savers From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:14:37   At 15:40 11/25/97 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, I have been watching the screen savers and pictures of organs. If anyone >has any and the time to send I would appreciate it. Thanks >John >JBC708@aol.com     For people looking for wallpaper that are theatre organs, check out http://www.theatreorgans.com/ . They have a few there that are designed as wallpaper, including John Ledwon's console. Maybe one could string a few of those together to form a slide show.   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: Re: Electronic Tremolo From: "David Neal" <david@neal.u-net.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:19:20 -0000   >Devtronics details are probably on the MITA site - I can't find it right >now. > Ahh! It's on the Electronic Organ Builders' Reference site (http://wcbi.com/organs/buildref/buildref.html)   Devtronics Phone: (916) 971-9074 (Ray Devault)   Regards    
(back) Subject: Re: David Drury From: "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:57:09 PDT       I've copied my response to Matt back to Pipechat, in the event that other listmembers have an interest. Please feel free to contact me directly if you'd like further information.   Mark       > Hi Mark,   Hey, Matt!   > This is Matt in NJ . I have a question and hope you can help. > I have recently sold my Allen 8350 (August) and hope to get another > organ within 6 months. When Allen came out with the Rennaisance > series, I thought I would wait a bit to see if Rodgers was coming > out with something new. My question is ........ when does > Rodgers announce their new products ......... is it like Allen at > their annual May meeting ????? Or does it just happen at no > particular time ?   Our product announcement times depend on a number of factors and can vary a great deal. In other words, we typically introduce a new product when it's ready - - - we don't put it on "hold" for a specific time of year, or a special date.   > I am starting to get "itchy" about getting a new instrument and I > just found out that the Rennaisance series has only 16 notes of > polyphony ........ which I think is too little for creating Midi > sequences. As I recall Rodgers is more (64 ???) and this is one > of the reasons I am waiting.   I think you'll find the MIDI system on the Rodgers to be exceptional, especially when compared with other alternatives.   Have you played a current Rodgers instrument? I'd be very interested to hear what your feelings are about Parallel Digital Imaging (PDI), our exclusive digital technology.   In fact, many of the "new" features which are now being heralded in other product lines were first incorporated into PDI. For example, we've used multiple DSP chips for tone generation from the beginning of our digital products. Others are just beginning to see why this is such a good idea.   I mention this fact because I'd like to encourage you to go and hear a current Rodgers instrument and compare it to anything else you can find. Although we are constantly working to improve our products, we strongly feel that our instruments stand alone for quality and realism when compared with even the "newest" technologies from other companies.   Make sure you also get a demonstration of the note-by-note voicing capabilities of each and every digital rank and the MIDI system - - - I know you'll be impressed.   Let me know if you'd like information about finding your local dealership, and please don't hesitate to contact me again if you have further questions.   Mark       Mark Huth mhuth@rodgers.rain.com http://www.rodgerscorp.com    
(back) Subject: Price of Instruments Nowadays! From: krummhorn8@juno.com (Jason D Comet) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:07:54 -0500   Have you ever gone down to the local music store and looked at the prices of some of the organs that you really like? What's the price range? Over at least $10,000. Have you ever looked at an upright piano? at least $1,000 for a slightly used one. Now I'm not quoting any prices. I'm only going by what I see myself. Don't even THINK about a baby grand let alone a full size!   I went to a "piano and organ warehouse" to return some band Instruments that a community theater borrowed for a production. We parked at the emergency exit and went around into the mall. The first thing that I saw when I turned the corner, was a 3 manual, full fledged, draw knob console. When I got closer, I saw that it was an Allen Digital with about ~8~ speakers. Right next to that, I saw an Allen Protege. (2 manual tilt tablet, full fledged pedalboard.) The sales person, who saw that I was there drooling over the instrument, came over and asked if he could help me. I didn't answer, Then he asked again, that time I heard him. I asked him with drool hanging out of my mouth how much this GLORIOUS instrument was. Guess what he replied..............................................................................................................................................................$100,000 + . Right then my dream was shot. Oh, how I would love to play it, but unfortunately, they had a Workshop kind of thing going on right next to the Protege. The salesperson said I could play it in about 45 minutes after the people (NOTE THEY ARE ALL SENIOR CITIZENS THAT ATTENDED IT) left. So, we walked around for about an hour, returned, and saw they were still not gone. A different salesperson said that you would have to wait for about another 40 minutes after they were finished having refreshments right smack dab next to the instrument. (try about 3 feet away) They finally dragged me away from it.   The thing that gets on my nerves is WHY ARE THE PRICES OF THESE KINDS OF THINGS SO EXPENSIVE. If they want a church that can't afford an actual pipe organ to buy a $100,000+ instrument, WHY DON'T THEY DROP THE PRICE A COUPLE OF $90,000 OR SO!!!!!!!!   I myself think that they are so expensive because senior citizen who still have Veterans money, Medicare, all these other things still coming in, and more and more seniors want to take up some sort of music to do something with there time, so the companies are thinking: Oh! If we jack up the price a couple thousand ($100,000) we can make more and more money and jip these people off with so~so quality!   I would like an instrument for my house that would be a GREAT practice instrument and not spend the price of an actual Pipe Organ. I couldn't afford one of them instrument if I owned three houses that were all insured, burnt 2 of them and saved the 3rd one to house it in!!!!!   I don't expect people to reply to this one this time. But, If you would like to add some input, please feel free to use this subject title.   Thanks for letting me vent. But I'll never fully be calmed down until I get that instrument which probably still has my drool stains on the bench, keyboards, etc... in my music room!   Thanks!  
(back) Subject: Re: Electronic Tremolo From: MFulk70776@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 00:01:46 -0500 (EST)   In a message dated 97-11-25 16:32:58 EST, you write:   << >Anyone out there know where I can etither buy, get schematics to >build, >etc. a GOOD, THROBBING electronic tremolo (for Theatre Organ) to >replace >the need for a mechanical leslie? Any help / ideas would be greatly >appreciated. Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Most people would sau that the Leslie itself would be best for a throbbing tremolo.  
(back) Subject: Organ Pics - FTP From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 23:29:36 -0600   Hi Folks,   Vernon emails his file of pictures to me earlier today but this has been the day from H;;l so i didn't get time to set up an FTP space for them. I have also received a note from another list member who is offering more pictures for the site. Maybe those will come through while I am away for the Holiday.   I will do a posting next week with the information about accessing the FTP site.   In the meantime - off to Houston very early tomorrow morning. If anyone has any suggestions about organs I should see or concerts that will be going on between Thursday and Monday morning please drop me a private note - Not to the list, please. I do get my email twice a day while I am away and do also check on the list server along with checking other services running here.   Hope you all have a great Thanksgiving.   David   ********************************** David Scribner Black Iris Consulting 4775 Balmoral Drive Pensacola, FL 32504-9174 850-478-9635 - Voice 850-476-0711 - Fax david@blackiris.com      
(back) Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast From: sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au (Sheridan Mascall) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:15:40 +1100   Gregory F. Klingler wrote: > > Hi, > > In response to the Disney Beauty & the Beast thread I wish to offer the > following comments / observations: >(...) > Pipe Organ villains and personal opinions aside, it's time to face the > facts and take a stand against the forces that laugh and mock our heritage > and values! > I understand Pocohontas was a debacle of the original story. Trouble is, Antipodeans like me don't know the difference and go about our lives believing the tale presented as gospel. :/ Same thing obviously with Anastasia which I will Not go to see, having seen the previews and knowing the true story.   Way off topic I know but Aussies have 5c as well (1c and 2c having disappeared from our currency).   ~Sheridan~