PipeChat Digest #97 - Thursday, October 9, 1997
 
organist ad
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: organist ad
  by <Ronnymn@aol.com>
Posters of big pipe organs??
  by Peter Bohne <pcb@clinicom.com>
Re: Procession of the Bulbs
  by Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com>
Re: Are my letters getting through ok
  by Douglas A. Campbell <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: Posters of big pipe organs??
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
The Secret of Haskell Basses
  by Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net>
Re: Are my letters getting through ok
  by Jason D Comet <krummhorn8@juno.com>
Re: Posters of big pipe organs??
  by Jason D Comet <krummhorn8@juno.com>
Re: Are my letters getting through ok
  by Joseph Azolino Jr. <bi286@scn.org>
Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt
  by Jason D Comet <krummhorn8@juno.com>
Pump Organ
  by Donald Mankin <drmankin@arkansas.net>
Re: Pump Organ
  by Frank Johnson <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
A Few Good CDs
  by Brandon Cash <bcash@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
Re: Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
Re: Posters of big pipe organs??
  by Stan Guy <Texstan@ix.netcom.com>
A Few Good CDs
  by Kurt Kehler <kmkehler@compuserve.com>
Re: A Few Good CDs
  by Roger Pariseau <grinder@west.net>
Re: Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt
  by dmjd <jimdave@rnet.com>
Re: A Few Good CDs
  by <OleMac7456@aol.com>
Re: A Few Good CDs
  by Ron Pearcy <ronniep@clear.net.nz>
Re: Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt
  by <PHarri5833@aol.com>
Re: Pump Organ
  by james turner <JTTUNER@webtv.net>
South Australian Theatre Organ Web Site.
  by Brian Pearson <bpearson@adelaide.on.net>
 


(back) Subject: organist ad From: Myosotis51@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:28:49 -0400 (EDT)   Organist/Choir Director   Islip, Long Island, New York Growing Congregation eager to expand strong music program, seeks person with deep faith, good people skills, love of contemporary and traditional music to work with and direct our adult choir and music program. Our Midmer-Losh fifteen rank organ (with chimes) is a joy to play. One Sunday service; Salary commensurate with experience . Please send resume ATT: Clare Tupper, Presbyterian Church Of Islip, 340 Main St. Islip, NY 11751, or leave your name, phone number and a good time to return your call at 516 277-9516. Or Email our church at : jawenker@suffolk.lib.ny.us >>    
(back) Subject: Re: organist ad From: Ronnymn@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:06:45 -0400 (EDT)   In a message dated 97-10-08 08:31:24 EDT, you write:   << Growing Congregation eager to expand strong music program, seeks person with deep faith >>     Such requirements are entirely legitimate, no argument but, IMHO it does tend to create a situation where classical organist have a different "gene pool" than other classically oriented musicians. e.g. Bach's religiousity notwithstanding, an organist need not have a "deep faith" in the above context to love and perform his works so as to profoundly influence others in a "spiritual" fashion. (not seeking any hellfire)  
(back) Subject: Posters of big pipe organs?? From: "Peter Bohne" <pcb@clinicom.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:47:19 -0600 (MDT)   Hi folks!   I'm trying to find out if there's a place somewhere on this earth where I can purchase good-quality posters (or poster-sized photos) of large and/or famous and/or especially beautiful or unique pipe organs. Doesn't matter where the instruments themselves are located. I can't imagine that I'm the first to be looking for something like this... Anyone else have any clues or ideas they could drop my way? I've done some searching on the Net, but have so far come up empty-handed.   Many many thanks for any help!   --   pete   ---------------------------- pcb@clinicom.com ------------------------------- Peter Bohne - HBO & Co | "Very funny Scottie. Now beam down my clothes!" -- 800-752-4143 x223 -------------------------------------------------------- FIGHT SPAM-email! http://www.cauce.org http://www.camalott.com/~rssmith  
(back) Subject: Re: Procession of the Bulbs From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 11:07:39 -0500   Around St Paddy's Day, don't forget to play "My Wild Irish Rose," "Sweet Rosie O'Grady," and "She's the Daughter of Rosie O'Grady."     Sl=E1n go f=F3ill! \/\/\    
(back) Subject: Re: Are my letters getting through ok From: dougcampbell@juno.com (Douglas A. Campbell) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 12:55:24 EDT     On 7 Oct 1997 22:39:52 CST/CDT JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu writes: >Are my letters getting though ok? I just want to check > YES !     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY  
(back) Subject: Re: Posters of big pipe organs?? From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:31:30 -0400   Several builders produce similar posters of their organs for PR purposes. I won't name names to keep them from being innundated with requests, but to check with your favorite builders. In the event they do not have them, perhaps they might give you permission to have enlargements made, which is easily done at most photography stores. I have several that I have obtained this way. Even some of my own photographs have been enlarged successfully. Another interesting decorative item is a blueprint layout which, when framed is very attractive and a great conversation piece. I still have one sent to me when I was a teenager.   Bruce Cornely, organist (OHS & AGO) University United Methodist Church and Student Center Wicks ('56) 3/16r Gainesville Florida Dean, Gainesville Chapter AGO  
(back) Subject: The Secret of Haskell Basses From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 15:24:20 -0700   On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Wiliam Catenesye <Prestant16@aol.com> wrote:   > I have tried to make a Haskell pipe using an 8' Violin Diapason pipe > (Low C#) and a junk zinc string bass. The Viol. Diap. pipes is about > 5" in diameter and the junk zinc string bass is about 2" in dia and > goes from the top of the V. Dia. pipe to about 6" from the languid. Several fundamental flaws:   1) The inner "Qualifying" Tube is supposed to be 70.7% of the diameter of the outside tube.   2) The top of the inside Qualifying Tube should stick out 2/3 of the diameter of the pipe above the main pipe body. It should NOT be flush.   3) The inside of the Qualifying Tube should be at least 6" above the top of the UPPER LIP.   Charles Callahan's book about AEolian-Skinner has a description of this.   Haskell basses were discussed extensively not that along ago on the "other" list, and I suggst you search the archives and read all of the postings regarding that.   Hope this helps!   Faithfully,   / ^ ^ \ { (O) (O) } --------oOOOo--------U-------oOOOo------------   "Arp in the Corn Patch" Rich Schneider SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders SNAILMAIL:41-43 Johnston Street P.O. Box 137 Kenney, Il 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX EMAIL: mailto:arpncorn@dave-world.net  
(back) Subject: Re: Are my letters getting through ok From: krummhorn8@juno.com (Jason D Comet) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:40:02 -0400   >Are my letters getting though ok? I just want to check   Yes!   Jason Comet Krummhorn8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Re: Posters of big pipe organs?? From: krummhorn8@juno.com (Jason D Comet) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:08:25 -0400   >Several builders produce similar posters of their organs for PR >purposes. I won't name names to keep them from being innundated with >requests, but to check with your favorite builders. In the event they >do not have them, perhaps they might give you permission to have >enlargements made, which is easily done at most photography stores. >I >have several that I have obtained this way. Even some of my own >photographs have been enlarged successfully. Another interesting >decorative item is a blueprint layout which, when framed is very >attractive and a great conversation piece. I still have one sent to >me >when I was a teenager.   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I was in Wahington D.C. in April. (It was after my spring break) I went with my youth group for a seminar. I didn't want to go. My youth group tried to talk me into it. Then I started reading my TAO Mag. and saw all the different organs in the recital/concert section, than desided to go. I bought 3 rolls of film to go down there with. (I thought I wasn't going to take much pictures) I ended up buying 10 or 11 rolls of film more when I got down there. I got to go to the (a lot of "t"'s (-: ) National Cathedral.the last day there. I ended up buying 3 rolls completely dedicated to the organ. (WOW!) Sadly I couldn't see the console of the organ there, but I got alot of the same pictures over and over again. (I was trigger happy because I was so excited!) I played the Metropolotine(?) Memorial United Methodist Church organ and got two pictures of it. I got one of the console, and one of the pipes. The pipes turned out beautiful along with the console. I want the pipes blown up (bad wording (-: ) and put over my bed as a headboard. But, I haven't got around to it. I tripped the circut breaker at the MMUMC organ. Nothing bad happened that turning the organ off for a minute and tuning it back on wouldn't fix! (Thank God) If you want to know more about my "trip", write me privatly.   Jason Comet Krummhorn8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Re: Are my letters getting through ok From: bi286@scn.org (Joseph Azolino Jr.) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:51:10 -0700 (PDT)     This was just received. You wrote:   > >>Are my letters getting though ok? I just want to check > >Yes! > >Jason Comet >Krummhorn8@juno.com > |\ > | \ >O >   uhm, no, nope, uh-uh.   Speaker: Can you hear me in the back?   People sitting in the back of the audience: NO!   Speaker: Then how could you answer that question?   To make this 'organ'ic - the above happened at a recital. Yeah, that's it.     au reservoir   Joseph              
(back) Subject: Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt From: krummhorn8@juno.com (Jason D Comet) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:51:52 -0400     Does anyone out there ( :-) ) have a 16' Leiblickgedeckt for a 32 note pedalboard? I JUST WANT TO KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My organ has a 16' Bourdon only, and it doesn't sound pretty with a soft piece for communion or accomp. the choir. The piece I played for Commnion, required a 16' pedal stop. I only had the bourdon, so, I used it. After the service was over, I was asked if I could "tone down" the pedal. I replyed, "no". The organ is located the other side of the console, facing the congregation with about 6-7' of space between the organ and the Communion rail. the people down by the organ, got "blown away". I don't know what the wind preasure is, but I'll find out. The organ is a 1920 (21) pipe organ made by C.E.Morey in Utica NY. The company is closed now (about 1940-45) and I can't find other pipes for it.   Please respond privately.   Thank you in advance.   Jason Comet Krummhorn8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Pump Organ From: Donald Mankin <drmankin@arkansas.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 17:27:44 -0500   I have a Kimball pump organ that I would love to get in excellent working condition. I would like to know if anyone knows of someone close to me that works on organs. I live in Arkansas, about an hour away from Memphis. I'd appreciate any help that I could get. Thank you, Donald Mankin  
(back) Subject: Re: Pump Organ From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:46:35 -0500   >I have a Kimball pump organ that I would love to get in excellent >working condition. I would like to know if anyone knows of someone >close to me that works on organs. I live in Arkansas, about an hour >away from Memphis. I'd appreciate any help that I could get. >Thank you, >Donald Mankin     I do know a man in Wichita, KS who rebuilds pump organs. Is that too far?   Frank Johnson Winfield, KS   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: A Few Good CDs From: Brandon Cash <bcash@utkux.utcc.utk.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 21:04:05 -0400 (EDT)     This is my first post. I've been a list subscriber for a good while now, and just haven't gotten around to moving from the lurker-world into the posting-world.   A very good friend of mine is an organ lover and recently asked me to buy her a really good organ CD. I've found some decent ones, but none that just stand out. She loves the Widor's Toccata (unusual, huh?) and Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor. So at a minimum the disc would need to have those two on it to make her happy. So my question to you all is: Does anyone have a CD that might still be in production and able to be ordered that would fit the bill?   I have one that's really good called Organ Masterpieces by Klemens Schnorr recorded in Munich, Germany, but you can't order it anymore. Thanks for your suggestions. Reply to me privately at 'cash@utk.edu'   Much appreciated,   Brandon Cash    
(back) Subject: Re: Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt From: Prestant16@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 21:29:51 -0400 (EDT)   although the e-mail stated to reply privately, I think this can help some people.   16' stoped flute usually have anadjustment at the toe to regulate the wind going into the pipe. It is possible, in some cases, to decrese the wind into the pipe, therefore reducing the volume. The pipes may need to be tuned after the regulation. if this does not work, andthe pipes do not speak, there are some other alternatives. Although I am not an organbuilder i have done this before with some sucess. One problem (among others you may encounter) is that the one 16' flute is too soft to be used in full organ. Unless there is a second 16' stop (preferably an Open wood) the one 16' stop would be more useful louder since you can always use an 8' stop.   What do the organbuilders on the list think of this? it has worked for me before.   William Catanesye  
(back) Subject: Re: Posters of big pipe organs?? From: Stan Guy <Texstan@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 20:59:31 -0500   Pete ----   Have you seen the book "The King of Instruments"? It has lovely pics of the ornate cases of primarily European organs. I don't know what your intent is with the pictures but with color reproduction machines being what they are, you should be able to enlarge them beautifully. If you're not doing it for profit, there shouldn't be any problems/issues with copyrights.   Best Regards,   Stan Guy--Dallas        
(back) Subject: A Few Good CDs From: Kurt Kehler <kmkehler@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 22:33:22 -0400   Brandon,   Try "An Organ Blaster Sampler", Michael Murray, organ, 1991, TELARC CD-80277. It has the Bach Toccata and the Widor Toccata. It also has Messiaen's Dieu parmi nous, the last movement from Saint-Saens' Symphony # 3, plus Jongen, Soler, Franck, Rheinberger, Campra and Cook.   I'm sure other list members will have other suggestions.   --Kurt Kehler  
(back) Subject: Re: A Few Good CDs From: Roger Pariseau <grinder@west.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 19:56:29 -0700   Brandon Cash wrote:   > A very good friend of mine is an organ lover and recently asked me > to buy her a really good organ CD. I've found some decent ones, but none > that just stand out. She loves the Widor's Toccata (unusual, huh?) and > Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor. So at a minimum the disc would need > to have those two on it to make her happy. So my question to you all is: > Does anyone have a CD that might still be in production and able to be > ordered that would fit the bill?   ALBUM CDworld VIRGIL FOX - LaserLight Digital 15313 (1990 Delta Music Inc.) $3.47 --> BACH: Toccata and Fugue in dm JONGEN: Toccata from The Symphonie Concertante BACH: Toccata, Adagio and Fugue (in C) FRANK: Pierce Heroique ALAIN: Litanies --> WIDOR: Toccata from the Fifth Symphony VIERNE: Finale from the Sixth Symphony DUPRE: Prelude and Fugue in gm GIGOUT: Toccata CDworld has this album titled, "Organ Recital" but that does not appear on the album (CD) cover. The cover also says, "DDD" but, of course, it isn't. The original recording was analog direct to disk and made in 1977 at Garden Grove. Still, it's an excellent album with few technical difficulties. CDworld was the only site I found with a significant number of organ recordings. YMMV. In any event, the price is right!   -- Roger Pariseau - grinder@west.net --------------------------------- "Not only do we learn from the mistakes of others, but we also learn that it is wiser to enthrone and follow principles than it is to enthrone and follow people." -- Marilyn Vos Savant  
(back) Subject: Re: Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt From: dmjd <jimdave@rnet.com> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 22:17:28 -0500   Dear Friends:   Two of the pipe organs I service have "lieblich boxes", as I call them. The organs are small, with no room for two 16' wood stops. In the old days, builders provided a special shunting box, or apparatus to help solve this problem: The wind supply, which normally was full pressure, was decreased to the pedal wind chest if the organist only had on the Lieblich stop. When the organist turned on the Bourdon (or Subbass) stop, full pressure resumed.   On low pressure, this made a fine, soft Lieblich. The only drawback was toward the upper end of the pedalboard, the pitch tended to be a bit flat, but it was something the organist could deal with. The shunt box is not difficult to build; any competant organ builder/tech could do it. Good Luck! Jim Donovan -- email: jimdave@rnet.com Rainbow Ridge Farm    
(back) Subject: Re: A Few Good CDs From: OleMac7456@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:33:32 -0400 (EDT)   How about expanding her world a bit?   Suggest Lyn Larsen's "Paradise" Barry Baker's "For tthe Very First Time"   among a bunch of outstanding choices.   E. McDonald  
(back) Subject: Re: A Few Good CDs From: Ron Pearcy <ronniep@clear.net.nz> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 17:40:09 +0000 (GMT)   On Thu 09 Oct, OleMac7456@aol.com wrote: > How about expanding her world a bit? > > Suggest Lyn Larsen's "Paradise" > Barry Baker's "For tthe Very First Time"     and could I suggest Chris Elliot's magnificent double CD set featuring the Buffalo Theatre WurliTzer .. wonderful, magnificent music. -- ----- Ron Pearcy <ronniep@clear.net.nz> 17 Donegal Crescent, Greenswood, Greenmeadows, Napier, New Zealand -------    
(back) Subject: Re: Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt From: PHarri5833@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:55:22 -0400 (EDT)   Jason D Come (krummhorn8@juno.com) was asking about swapping his one and only pedal rank for something quieter.   The answer is perhaps not to worry about what pedal stop you've got but decide when to use it. For this particular piece a softer 16 might have been handy but that probably wouldn't be so useful for leading a congregational hymn.   A lot of composers or editors might suggest using a 16' pedal stop but other things can be done. An 8' will obviously not give the weight but might be more musical than an over loud 16'. If there isn't a suitable one in the pedal department, couple one from somewhere else.   I'm not sure I fancy Jim Donovan's suggestion of providing a "low pressure" mode to the Bourdon. Jim agrees that some parts, especially the upper pipes would go out of tune but that is something "the organist could deal with". How - by not playing them? This seems to defeat the object which was to get more useful notes!   In the end - use your own musical judgement. If you don't know the organ and building extremely well, it's possible it sounds different at the console to where most listeners are sitting. However, was the person who advised "toning down" the pedal qualified to judge? Perhaps they just wanted silence! That can also be a handy piece to have in the repertoire!   Peter Harrison Emmanuel, Holcombe, GB    
(back) Subject: Re: Pump Organ From: JTTUNER@webtv.net (james turner) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 01:01:37 -0500   Hello Don Mankin,   I have a complete rebuilding shop for restoring old reed (pump) organs. We have been doing this kind of work for 20 years and do a lot of them. I live in central Indiana. For more information, e-mail or call me in the late evenings.   Piano & Reed Organ Shop Jim Turner 125 W. S. B. st., Gas city, IN 46933 765-674-4942  
(back) Subject: South Australian Theatre Organ Web Site. From: bpearson@adelaide.on.net (Brian Pearson) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 18:02:24 +0930   THIS HAS ALSO BEEN POSTED TO PIPORG-L. PLEASE DELETE IF YOU HAVE ALREADY READ IT.   After three months in England, twelve other European countries in a campervan tour, and the USA I am back home, promising to keep my effusions to a minimum. I append a copy of a message to a large group of theatre organ enthusiast friends around the world which I think will be of interest to many members of the list.   Regards, Brian.   Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 12:53:47 +0930 From: G WARD <gward@adam.com.au> Subject: TOSA web site   This morning there is a new web site on the Net, thanks to the huge effort of Ross Lange.   Ross has designed a site to advertise TOSA SA and and promote our activities. Just in case he is modest about his achievement I thought I'd tell half the world.   The site is at www.ozemail.com.au/~roscol   Thanks Ross!   Gail Ward