PipeChat Digest #98 - Thursday, October 9, 1997
 
Schneider Organs
  by Douglas A. Campbell <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt
  by Paul Opel <popel@sover.net>
(no subject)
  by <rnickel@itol.com>
Organ Posters & photos
  by Peter Bohne <pcb@clinicom.com>
FWD:
  by Dr. Peter G. Pocock <pgpocock@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt
  by Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton434@bigwave.ca>
Re: A Few Good CDs
  by Ken <mewzishn@spec.net>
Re: Pump Organ
  by Richard B. Ahlvin <rahlvin@magnolia.net>
Re: A Few Good CDs
  by Richard B. Ahlvin <rahlvin@magnolia.net>
Re: A Few Good CDs
  by Roger Pariseau <grinder@west.net>
Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt
  by Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net>
Fox Digital Recording
  by Ken <mewzishn@spec.net>
Re: A Few Good CDs
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
The original recording
  by Wildhirt, Richard <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com>
Princess Diana's Funeral Service
  by KARL W KELLER <kwkeller@juno.com>
RE: The original recording
  by Tom Blackwell <tom@spry.com>
LDS Practicing Policy?? (Was: Can anyone help this young organist)
  by Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net>
Re: The secret of the Haskell Bass???
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: A Few Good CDs
  by Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net>
Question???????
  by Jason D Comet <krummhorn8@juno.com>
 


(back) Subject: Schneider Organs From: dougcampbell@juno.com (Douglas A. Campbell) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 07:47:12 EDT   Sorry for the dual post.   ************************************************     P R I V A T E R E P L I E S O N L Y   Reply to : Dougcampbell@juno.com ************************************************* Please check your return address so your reply do NOT go to the list!     I am seeking any and all information from listmembers that have had any experience with Schneider Pipe Organ of Kenny. Ill. Richard Schneider (AKA "Arp in the Cornpatch") is a list member and so will be aware of my request.   I am seeking both positive and negative responses concerning workmanship, voicing - any comments you feel you have the experience to discuss.   Our church is considering an organ from Schneider and I feel I would be remiss if I didn't seek information from all sources. If you have had any type of bad experience I would like to know about it. I would also like to know about any good experiences as well.   I have visited Richard's shop and have played 2 of his instruments - if I didn't feel comfortable with him I wouldn't have proceeded as far as I have, BUT: What I need is some documentable experiences of others to assist with answering the enumerable questions that will surely arise from our church board.   Again please make SURE your reply is private and THANK YOU in Advance!     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY >  
(back) Subject: Re: Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt From: popel@sover.net (Paul Opel) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:21:46 -0400   My Wix uses double valves for a soft 16', and it does change the pitch of the pipes slightly, but not so much as t make them unusable, although I find that both stops together overblows the rank and coarsens the tone. There is a small refinement, in that the pipes are only shared in the bottom octave- the rest of the LG is borrowed from the Swell stopped 8'- which goes a long way to making the double-duty 16' work acceptably.   Paul Opel      
(back) Subject: From: <rnickel@itol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 07:48:35 -0500   Brandon Cash wrote:   > A very good friend of mine is an organ lover and recently asked me > to buy her a really good organ CD. I've found some decent ones, but none > that just stand out. She loves the Widor's Toccata (unusual, huh?) and > Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor. So at a minimum the disc would need > to have those two on it to make her happy.   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dan Miller (Calvary Church, Charlotte, NC) has recorded some great CDs.   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dan's dedication CD contains the Toccata and Fugue in D minor. Another fun piece is the "Festive Trumpet Tune" by David German, written specifically for that organ.   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dan's "Power and Glory" CD contains the Widor Toccata and another favorite of mine "Praise the Lord with Drums and Cymbals."   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both CDs are available from DSDS Enterprises. If you want the address, please respond privately to <rnickel@itol.com>.    
(back) Subject: Organ Posters & photos From: "Peter Bohne" <pcb@clinicom.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 07:41:59 -0600 (MDT)   Hi folks - many thanks to the folks who responded to my question about organ posters. I actually have just found a place (via yet another search on the net) that sells large high quality posters of various organs from (mostly) europe -- Spain, Germany, France, Holland...   For those interested, the company is:   Elkin Music International 16 N.E. 4th Street Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 1-800-367-3554   They get these posters from somewhere in France. They can send you a color flyer with prices. There's also posters of the internal workings (sort of a blueprint) of a tracker organ.     Also, Stan Guy <Texstan@ix.netcom.com> wrote:   > Have you seen the book "The King of Instruments"? It has > lovely pics of the ornate cases of primarily European organs...   Yes, I've seen the book only once, in a library in a city far away. A wonderful book, and I've tried everything to find a copy to purchase (way before I started on the poster search), but it's out of print and no one seems to have any copies for sale. If you (or anyone on the list) knows where a for-sale copy is, PLEASE reply to me. Aside from the posters, I'm still searching for this book.   --   pete   ---------------------------- pcb@clinicom.com ------------------------------- Peter Bohne - HBO & Co | "Very funny Scottie. Now beam down my clothes!" -- 800-752-4143 x223 -------------------------------------------------------- FIGHT SPAM-email! http://www.cauce.org http://www.camalott.com/~rssmith  
(back) Subject: FWD: From: "Dr. Peter G. Pocock" <pgpocock@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 07:31:07 -0700   The following message was sent to us from our webpage. If anyone can help this person, please reply privately. Thanks,   Pete!   ====Forwarded Message======   from: sambos1@tpgi.com.au message: Found your site very interesting. I have an Everett Orgatron I am attempting to restore. Does anyone you know have any experience with one. Apparently it is one of only two in Australia and I know not where the other is located. It was built in 1927.      
(back) Subject: Re: Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt From: Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton434@bigwave.ca> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 10:36:11   Sorry if this is a double post my mail does not seem to be getting through.   > 16' stoped flute usually have an adjustment at the toe to regulate the >wind going into the pipe. It is possible, in some cases, to decrese the wind >into the pipe, therefore reducing the volume. The pipes may need to be tuned >after the regulation. if this does not work, andthe pipes do not speak, >there are some other alternatives. Although I am not an organbuilder i have >done this before with some sucess. One problem (among others you may >encounter) is that the one 16' flute is too soft to be used in full organ. > Unless there is a second 16' stop (preferably an Open wood) the one 16' stop >would be more useful louder since you can always use an 8' stop.   >William Catanesye     Another possibility for those with no space for a second set of pedal pipes is to add a "Leiblickgedeckt action" This is a small Valve/bellows device that changes the windpressure to the pedal pipes from low to higher pressure. It is a common device added to many small pipe organs to allow some flexability to the pedal division. A dual valve under each pipe is another solution. One small valve for a soft sound and a larger one for a louder sound. Both styles work to a limited degree. The pitch does change from loud to soft, but for most small organs the variation in volume is more important than the "Out of tuneness"   The standard 16' Bourdon/Gedackt/Stopped Flute Bass is the cheapest and easiest 16' sound to add to an organ but it does have the poorest sound.   A 16' Open Diapason or String is a better alternative but they take up a lot of space and are expensive.   Useless trivia time. . .   Did you know that the bottom octave of any rank of pipes costs as much to make as the rest of the pipes in the rank combined?   Darned if I know why but they do.     Nelson E. Denton R. A. Denton and Son Pipe Organ Builders Hamilton Ontario Canada  
(back) Subject: Re: A Few Good CDs From: Ken <mewzishn@spec.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 11:15:44 +0000       Roger Pariseau wrote:   > VIRGIL FOX - LaserLight Digital 15313 (1990 Delta Music Inc.) $3.47   (snip)   > The cover also says, "DDD" but, of course, it isn't. The original recording   > was analog direct to disk and made in 1977 at Garden Grove.   This actually very likely is a DDD recording, as simultaneous to the direct-to-disk recordings cut at that session, they were digitally recorded as well. They were among the very first digital recordings ever made, and certainly the first digital recordings of a pipe organ for commercial release.   Ken Sybesma        
(back) Subject: Re: Pump Organ From: "Richard B. Ahlvin" <rahlvin@magnolia.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 10:21:33 -0500   Donald Mankin wrote: > > I have a Kimball pump organ that I would love to get in excellent > working condition. I would like to know if anyone knows of someone > close to me that works on organs. I live in Arkansas, about an hour > away from Memphis. I'd appreciate any help that I could get. > Thank you, > Donald Mankin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org There are a number of publications available which cover the rebuilding of the "pump" reed organs. It is actually very easy if you have some mechanical skills. All of the supplies are readily available from the player piano supply company. I rebuilt one under the guidence of a friend in Jackson, MS who has rebuilt several reed organs, a number of player pianos (including a few reproducers) and also happens to currently have the third pipe organ he has owned installed in his home. (The organ is partly rebuilt; this is a continuous on-going project.) If you are interested in the do-it-yourself approach, e-mail me privatly and I will be happy to discuss it with you. -- Richard B. Ahlvin #3 Shadow Wood Drive, Vicksburg, MS 39180-9741 e-mail: rahlvin@magnolia.net  
(back) Subject: Re: A Few Good CDs From: "Richard B. Ahlvin" <rahlvin@magnolia.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 10:27:43 -0500   Brandon Cash wrote: > > > A very good friend of mine is an organ lover and recently asked me > to buy her a really good organ CD. I've found some decent ones, but none > that just stand out. She loves the Widor's Toccata (unusual, huh?) and > Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor. So at a minimum the disc would need > to have those two on it to make her happy. So my question to you all is: > Does anyone have a CD that might still be in production and able to be > ordered that would fit the bill? > > > Brandon Cash > Look in the Organ Historical Society catalog. There should be many. -- Richard B. Ahlvin e-mail: rahlvin@magnolia.net  
(back) Subject: Re: A Few Good CDs From: Roger Pariseau <grinder@west.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 10:15:20 -0700   Ken wrote: > This actually very likely is a DDD recording, as simultaneous to the > direct-to-disk recordings cut at that session, they were digitally recorded as > well. They were among the very first digital recordings ever made, and certainly > the first digital recordings of a pipe organ for commercial release.   In this particular case, no. A careful reading of the jewel box's reverse side reveals: "This compact disc was digitally mastered from the original master lacquer cut at the recording session..." And the digital specs ain't all that hot either! Sampling rate: 37,500, 16 bits [!] Frequency response 0-15,000 + 2dB, - 5 dB. Signal to noise Ratio 90 dB.   Even at that low sampling rate and bandwidth, I doubt if there was enough dynamic memory capacity in the country (outside of the military), much less in a recording or remastering studio, to digitally record anything in 1977!   -- Roger  
(back) Subject: Wanted: Leiblickgedeckt From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 12:18:37 -0700   On Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Peter Harrison <Harri5833@aol.com> wrote:   > I'm not sure I fancy Jim Donovan's suggestion of providing a "low > pressure" mode to the Bourdon. Jim agrees that some parts, especially > the upper pipes would go out of tune but that is something "the > organist could deal with". How - by not playing them? This seems to > defeat the object which was to get more useful notes!   The device that Jim refers to (Lieblich Gedackt Action) has been around for a long time. In more expensive organs, there are actualy two "treble" ranks that do the duty of providing softer tones that are in pitch for the upper portions of the keyboard, and only the larger, more expensive portions of the stop (16' octave) are treated to the wind-diet choice of either Lieblich or full wind.   Even when that is not done, if one only uses the bass notes, up to, perhaps tenor G, there is not enough pitch change to be perceptive; it's only in the treble ranges that this is perceptable.   Even the "big-name" tracker builders have done this stop. In Visser-Rowland's Opus I in Redford Lutheran Church in Detroit, MI (my wife's home church), they thoughtfully provided two sliders with regulator slides on one of the two, so they could cut back the wind on the pipes for one slide, to get a Lieblich action.   An important note:   Any of these suggestions: softening the existing rank permanently, adding a Lieblich, or whatever, should NOT be done by an organist without the aid and abetment of the person who regularly services the organ. Such changes made behind someone's back can be considered by some technicians as Vandalism, and can result in the church having their service contract terminated. To say it another way, you could wind up in "hot water" over this if you aren't careful how you proceed.   Whatever is done should be done "through channels". It may take longer, but should save a lot of grief, bad feelings or termination by the church you play for.   Faithfully, / ^ ^ \ { (O) (O) } --------oOOOo--------U-------oOOOo------------   "Arp in the Corn Patch" Rich Schneider SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders SNAILMAIL:41-43 Johnston Street P.O. Box 137 Kenney, Il 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX EMAIL: mailto:arpncorn@dave-world.net  
(back) Subject: Fox Digital Recording From: Ken <mewzishn@spec.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 13:44:38 +0000       Roger Pariseau wrote:   > In this particular case, no. A careful reading of the jewel box's > reverse side reveals: "This compact disc was digitally mastered from the > original master lacquer cut at the recording session..." And the > digital specs ain't all that hot either! Sampling rate: 37,500, 16 bits > [!] Frequency response 0-15,000 + 2dB, - 5 dB. Signal to noise Ratio 90 > dB. > > Even at that low sampling rate and bandwidth, I doubt if there was > enough dynamic memory capacity in the country (outside of the military), > much less in a recording or remastering studio, to digitally record > anything in 1977!   There is a digital version of this recording session out there. I recall V.F. himself marvelling at the ability to record in such a way.   Ken Sybesma        
(back) Subject: Re: A Few Good CDs From: Prestant16@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:10:08 -0400 (EDT)   I really like ALL of Michael Murrys recordings. There are (I think) 12 recordings on CD, to name a few:   "The Young Bach" on the Gabriel Kney Orgab at the college of St. Thomas, = St. Paul MN "Bach at St. Bavos"=20 "Bach Organ Blaster" "An Organ Blaster Sampler" "Music for Organ Brass and Precussion" Church of the Advent Boston MA=20 "The Great Organ at Methuen" Methuen Memorial Music Hall, Methuen MA=20 "The Great Organ at The Cathederal of St. John The Divine" NY "Ceremonial Music for Trumpet and Organ" "Encores =E0 la Fran=E7aise" Symphony Hall, Boston MA "Bach" The Organs at First Congregational Church, Los Angelas   E. Power Biggs has a few Bach recordings:   "Four Great Tocattas and Fuges" in the Munster Cathederal, Germany (4 organs!! at once) "Bach, Music of Jubilee" Organ and (Chamber?) Orchestra "Bach, Great Organ Favorites" The Flentrop Organ at the Germanic musiem Cambrige, MA   These are CD's I have and enjoy a whole lot.   William Catanesye  
(back) Subject: The original recording From: "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 12:57:43 -0700   Roger Pariseau said:   The original recording was analog direct to disk and made in 1977 at Garden Grove.   I have both of those original recordings by Virgil Fox. They are from Crystal Clear Records, and recorded on the instrument that was absorbed into what is now the Hazel Wright Ruffatti-Skinner in the Crystal Cathedral.   I have come close several times to blowing to bits my speakers, even from these vinyl analog 33 1/3 RPM disks. They are great recordings and very clear. Twenty years later they have their share of mars and scratches. I'm sure the CD remakes are like being there.   Interesting that since the recordings were made using direct-to-disk technology, which is unforgiving, you can hear a few mistakes Mr. Fox made (like in the pedal line close to the end of the Widor Toccata). He was human, too.   Speaking of blowing out speakers, has anyone on the list listened to "Spectacular" featuring Charlie Balogh on the IV/70 Mesa Wurlitzer? I just ordered the CD last week and am really looking forward to getting it. I'm interested in your comments if you've heard it.     Richard Wildhirt Renton Site Integration (425) 234-8051   "Sometimes I get the feeling the whole world's against me. But that's not really true. Some of the smaller countries are neutral." --Robert Orben  
(back) Subject: Princess Diana's Funeral Service From: kwkeller@juno.com (KARL W KELLER) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 17:07:45 EDT   Dear List Members,   I have just spent 75 minutes listening to the recording made by the BBC of Princess Diana's funeral service which is available on Compact Disk (CD) in the USA. I purchased my copy from Gothic Records, Inc., (1-800-735-4720) for $17.98 plus S&H. The catalog number is CD460000.   This is a CD which I shall treasure and I highly recommend it to the members of the List. The CD starts with the pealing of the Westminster bell and the organ playing "Prelude" by William Harris then the singing of the National Anthem followed by the Choirs singing while the Collegiate Body precedes the cortege to the front of the Abbey. This CD includes "Candle In The Wind" written and sung by Elton John. The Verdi and other hymns are very well recorded. The CD concludes with the singing of John Tavener's "Alleluia" which in my opinion is one of the most hauntingly beautiful choral pieces I have ever heard. The singing fades as the cortege leaves the Abbey and the peal of the half muffled bells are heard for several minutes until their sound fades as the hearse drives off.   Regards to all.   Karl Musica est Dei donum optimi  
(back) Subject: RE: The original recording From: Tom Blackwell <tom@spry.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:34:39 -0700   Hi Richard:   >Speaking of blowing out speakers, has anyone on the list listened to >"Spectacular" featuring Charlie Balogh on the IV/70 Mesa Wurlitzer? I >just ordered the CD last week and am really looking forward to getting >it. I'm interested in your comments if you've heard it.   I've had the CD for a few months now... the end of "Seventy-Six Trombones" and the beginning of "Phantom of the Opera" nearly blew my speakers until I learned to turn the volume down for these selections.   Tom    
(back) Subject: LDS Practicing Policy?? (Was: Can anyone help this young organist) From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 16:46:34 -0700   On Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:44:05 -0400 Brent Peterson <Quibbamus@aol.com> wrote:   > Isn't this interesting? As terrible a shortage there is of organists > already, > and the churches are putting their own neck in a noose. > I grew up LDS, and even at a tender and believing age I was amazed by > the > Church's policy. They have some wonderful classical organ programs at > Ricks and BYU; they claim to have a great love of music. But ... don't > think of playing anything other than hymns and maybe a little schmaltz > for service prelude. (There are no offertories or communion music.) > Even > more amazing, church policy disallowed practicing upon the Grand-Allen > for > any purpose other than preparation for Sunday service! Many's the time > I defied the prophet and defiled the holy place by running through one > of > the Eight Little Preludes and Fugues. > Are they still like that? How about the other volunteer denominations?   Arp, who can't comment first-hand regarding LDS Policy, but knows several LDS friends who probably can, wrote to them, and one responded thusly:   (some minor de-personalizing editing was necessary for "general" list consumption):   McHarry, Hugh wrote:   > Like any other church, you never know what might go on somewhere, but in > the official LDS Music Handbook, it specifically states that ward and > stake organs and pianos should be made available for practice and lessons > when other suitable instruments are not available- for anyone in the > ward and not necessarily relating to a church calling. > The LDS organ handbook, which has been in place for a number of years, > has a suggested repertoire list that is very similar to what you would > expect from AGO or a major university's music department. It is heavy on > Bach, Vierne, etc., and extremely light on the contemporary. There are a > number of books of recent hymn preludes by LDS composers that are often > used and not on the list. Some of these are actually of good quality.   > . . .A number of Douglas Bush's pieces (were played at Illinois > recitals given in 1991 in St. Peter's Catholic Church in Quincy and the > Macomb LDS Ward Chapel). I played one of them in Frederick Swann's > Illinois College Masterclass and it seemed to go over pretty well. > This being said, there is a status quo mentality that sometimes appears > that prefers draggy hymns very much in the background for preludes, etc. > This has developed largely because there are almost no paid organists > and many are recruited without training. Also, since there is no > professional clergy, the quality of leadership in regard to music varies. > A couple of years ago, a general authority made a comment in General > Conference emphasizing the importance of hymns in our daily lives and in > sacrament meetings. Some interpreted this that choirs should sing only > hymns and that only hymns should be used as preludes and postludes. He > later clarified that that was not his intent. The Organ Handbook > actually states that "hymns may be used occasionally as postludes or > preludes." There were times in the distant past when it was suggested > that they not be used at all. > In the Macomb Ward, these issues have surfaced, but good music- to the > extent that I can provide it- certainly has triumphed. I've used > everything in my recital program in church, as well as nearly all of the > pieces I've worked on with Dr. Z. (Rudolph Zuiderveld, who is Hugh McHarry's teacher at Illinois College). > (Comments about Douglas Bush's Macomb organ class at the LDS Chapel, in conjunction with the recital given there). This is what he teaches > at BYU and everywhere he goes. It was also what Ralph Woodward, a > professor emeritus from BYU, taught a couple of years ago at the Nauvoo > Church Music Symposium. > We have had several WIU music students practicing on the ward pipe organ > in Macomb and don't lock it so that younger piano students can have > access and hopefully get interested. > There is an excellent book that includes these subjects, published by the > University of Illinois Press, entitled MORMONISM AND MUSIC, that was > written by BYU music professor Richard (?) Hicks. He prefaces the book > with a comment that you could substitute nearly any denomination in most > of the discussions. I think that is true. I know a guy in Havana > (IL) that played for some time at the Baptist Church. He often worked hard to > learn new pieces, but most of the positive comments he got were when he > played hymns. > At Jim Welch's Mason City recital, LCMS Donna Stleler (whose has a sister who is LDS) said she liked it, but just wished he would have played one > thing that was familiar (to her).   It might be interesting to hear from Dr. Douglas Bush, who teaches at BYU on this subject also. I've asked that this thread be forwarded to him by Mr. McHarry.   Faithfully, / ^ ^ \ { (O) (O) } --------oOOOo--------U-------oOOOo------------   "Arp in the Corn Patch" Rich Schneider SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders SNAILMAIL:41-43 Johnston Street P.O. Box 137 Kenney, Il 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX EMAIL: mailto:arpncorn@dave-world.net  
(back) Subject: Re: The secret of the Haskell Bass??? From: RMaryman@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:03:49 -0400 (EDT)   Will Cataneyse asked about his experimental pipe, trying to generate a 16' string tone from an existing 8' Diapason pipe. Guy henderson advised changing the empty tube speech so that the pipe overblows and speaks at the octave pitch. My observation is that the Haskell (effect) tube is of too SMALL a diameter. He is using a tube af about 2" diameter inside a 5" diameter (prime) pipe. Haskells patent notes call for an inner tube of .707 of the diameter of the prime pipe - in this case 3.5 inches. the smaller diameter of the haskell tube may be contributing to the inconsistent lowering of pitch, in addition to the bridge adjustment Guy suggested. any way, the pitch that the pipe Will described will most likely produce a pitch of about 16' D or D# once he gets it stable.   Hope this helps.   Rick Maryman  
(back) Subject: Re: A Few Good CDs From: Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 18:45:13 -0400   > ALBUM CDworld > VIRGIL FOX - LaserLight Digital 15313 (1990 Delta Music Inc.) $3.47 > --> BACH: Toccata and Fugue in dm > JONGEN: Toccata from The Symphonie Concertante > BACH: Toccata, Adagio and Fugue (in C) > FRANK: Pierce Heroique > ALAIN: Litanies > --> WIDOR: Toccata from the Fifth Symphony > VIERNE: Finale from the Sixth Symphony > DUPRE: Prelude and Fugue in gm > GIGOUT: Toccata > > CDworld has this album titled, "Organ Recital" but that does not appear > on the album (CD) cover. The cover also says, "DDD" but, of course, it > isn't. The original recording was analog direct to disk and made in 1977 > at Garden Grove. Still, it's an excellent album with few technical > difficulties. CDworld was the only site I found with a significant > number of organ recordings. YMMV. In any event, the price is right! > > --   Actually, there *WAS* a DDD recording of this programme, entitled "THE DIGITAL FOX," released on Bainbridge BCD8104. According to the jacket notes, "This CD contains the same repertoire as the originally released Direct-to-Disc redording (which I also own). However, during the Direct-To-Disc sessions, the simultaneous use of Analog Tape and the newest technology , Digital Tape, was employed as well. This disc is the result of the Digital Tape recording. Although still LIVE, the performances and frequency balances are different." Having heard both the DTD and the DDD, I can attest to the differences. You can hear a LOT more on the DDD recording (little things like pistons being fired...). I have heard the "other" CD, but the Bainbridge is far better, IMHO.  
(back) Subject: Question??????? From: krummhorn8@juno.com (Jason D Comet) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 21:29:13 -0400   Could you possibly put a cathedral sized organ on a very low wind pressure and fit it in about an average house and a half sized church? (Please say yes :-) )   Jason Comet Krummhorn8@juno.com |\ | \ O