PipeChat Digest #87 - Monday, September 29, 1997 List Procedures, Commands and Digest form! by PipeChat-Admin <firstname.lastname@example.org> Postings and email addresses! by Dr. Peter G. Pocock <email@example.com> How Should We Critique by Roger <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: How Should We Critique by <NFexec@aol.com> Allen Theatre Organ Responses by <NFexec@aol.com> Re: How Should We Critique by bruce cornely <email@example.com> Desperately Seeking Substitute Organist by Sheridan Mascall <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Desperately Seeking Substitute Organist by bruce cornely <email@example.com> Re: Desperately Seeking Substitute Organist by Sheridan Mascall <firstname.lastname@example.org>
(back) Subject: List Procedures, Commands and Digest form! From: PipeChat-Admin <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 07:02:38 -0700 This is a regular administrative posting, please retain for your records. =========================================== LIST ADMINISTRATION, GUIDELINES and ETIQUETTE =========================================== ================ ADMINISTRATION: ================ To "Subscribe" to PipeChat send email to: firstname.lastname@example.org saying: Subscribe PipeChat To "Subscribe" to PipeChat DIGEST send email to: email@example.com saying: Subscribe Digest PipeChat Note: For Digest subscriptions, you do not need to subscribe to the general list first, just subscribe directly to the Digest. To "Unsubscribe" send email to: firstname.lastname@example.org saying: Unsubscribe PipeChat If you have any administrative questions on the services available from the list please send them to: email@example.com stating your question or problem and we will get back to you as soon as possible. ====================================================== ETIQUETTE ====================================================== 1. Be kind to one another. 2. Please respect other list members points of view, we are all individuals and entitled to our opinions, that's what makes life interesting :):) 3. One rule applies absolutely -- NO FLAMING UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. The list owners will be reading each post and if we see flaming going on you will be warned once. If there is a repeat, you will be removed from the list. ====================================================== GUIDELINES ====================================================== 1. Have fun. (It's the only polite thing to do here) 2. Make friends. (How do you make friends? Listen to other people. Validate their thoughts and feelings. Be willing to tolerate and accept them as they are. Have fun.) 3. Learn tolerance. Discuss ideas, rather than judging people. 4. Maintain a sense of humor. There's nothing like a good slice of humor for breaking up a flame war. 5. Use lots of smileys and poses. It is difficult to read tone of voice. This helps the humor impaired. 6. If something someone has said upsets you, ask for clarification first without the use of emotional language. They may have been joking or they may even reconsider their comments. 7. If someone on the PipeChat mailing list has written something which distresses you, you can always privately ask Pete or David to pummel some sense into them :) Do not use up mailing list bandwidth doing so yourself. 8. Please do not use up mailing list bandwidth explaining Netiquette to those poor lost newbies. It's not what this list is about. If you must, do so privately. 9. When responding to a message, quote only the relevant bits. No one is going to want to read your message if they have to dredge through miles of previous messages. Besides, it wastes bandwidth. 10. Please keep signatures to around four lines long. 11. Members of this list are allowed to wander off topic provided what they have to say is interesting or humorous. 12. Mail is handled by the list server immediately. If there are any delays, we apologize, however, they are out of our control. 13. Please reply generally to the list. However, please consider wether it would be better to reply to the individual rather than the list, thus reducing list traffic. 14. What to post? Anecdotes.... sadnesses.... joys.... Anything you feel comfortable posting. You will soon pick up if the list is going to respond to your topic. 15. Please think twice before posting. For those who are not on Digest form, it is very easy to overlow their mail boxes, please be considerate of others on the list. 16. What not to post! Items that have nothing at all to do with PipeChat and its guidelines--e.g. Virus warnings, Church matters that are not music related or topics that are better dealt with by other lists.. If you feel uncertain as to the content of any email, please send it to the Admin address and we will guide you as to wether we feel it should be posted or not. 17. Finally, this is a place to enjoy yourself, feel relaxed about music, pipe organs, theater organs, church organs, electronic organs and church music. Make the list what you want it to be. And LOTS of HUMOR PLEASE :) Dr. Peter Pocock List Administrator "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat-A discussion List re: pipe/digital organs and related topics Homepage: http://www.pipchat.org List: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org Admin: mailto:email@example.com Subscribe/Unsubscribe mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org
(back) Subject: Postings and email addresses! From: "Dr. Peter G. Pocock" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 14:29:29 -0700 Hi everyone, I have received a number of questions from PipeChatters as to why there has been no mail in the last few days. No, there is nothing wrong with the list. Unless you post mail to the list, nothing will come through. I encourage you all to dig deep in the recesses of your organ knowledge and find something you don't know anything about, and then ask your fellow PipeChatters about it. They are a knowledgable and interesting group of people. Also, there have been a couple of occasions where members have had trouble in posting to the list. This is due to them subscribing under one address but sending from another. For example I am subscribed under: firstname.lastname@example.org However, if I show in my mail program that my mail is from: email@example.com The server will reject the email as the senders address is not correct. If you are having this sort of trouble, then please let me know and I can manually correct it for you. If you want to be able to post from both your work address and your home address (if they are different) then you need to be subscribed under both addresses. Simply do normal under one and Digest under the other if you do not wish to read everything twice. Your felow PipeChatters and me look forward to more stimulating, interesting posts from all 400 of you around the world. Take care and have a great weekend. Pete!
(back) Subject: How Should We Critique From: "Roger" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:03:01 -0700 While watching the Lyn Larsen video of a theatre organ concert this morning, the thought occured to me that we could probably start a thread on how to critique a theatre organ performance. (This may have had something to do with the fact that last Sunday I attended a concert where the post horn was so loud that many of the audience where covering their ears when it played. And it played often and long! But I hope not.) From discussions I have had with Marti Lynch over the years, I know that it is had to define exactly what we mean by "theatre organ." But that's what makes this interesting to me. We should have no lack of opions. So, your opinions, please!
(back) Subject: Re: How Should We Critique From: NFexec@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Not sure I understand what you mean by "hard to define exactly what we mean by theatre organ"! Are you referring to t.o. style of registration and playing? Or, are you implying that t.o.'s are a non-descript item? If the former, you may have somewhat of a point. If the latter, I see no point here. Theatre organs were built in the 1920's (mostly) to accompany silent movies, sing-a-longs, and occasional solo spots. Their voicing, specifications, wind pressures, and whole point for being is entirely different from other pipe organs. For those in the know, they took on a different popular (and probably rather undignified in some places) spot in pizza parlors in the 70's and 80's. So . . . please excuse my density here (and, I am not trying to be difficult) -- but I'm afraid I don't understand your point.
(back) Subject: Allen Theatre Organ Responses From: NFexec@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:38:15 -0400 (EDT) I just wanted to thank all those who responded to my question regarding Allen (or Rodgers) electronic theatre organs over a week ago. Your opinions and advice on who to contact were genuinely appreciated. In fact, I will have received three separate recordings of the instruments I had not yet heard as a DIRECT result of your friendly and helpful responses. And, by the way, those of you who supported so highly the work of Walker Technical Company in Zionsville, PA were absolutely correct! The recording I was sent was extremely authentic sounding (both classic and theatre). It is amazing what can be done with highly skilled engineers and digital sampling, etc etc these days! Thanks again - the Pipechat forum was well put to use for me on that topic! Doug Powers
(back) Subject: Re: How Should We Critique From: email@example.com (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:46:32 -0400 After I got away from academia and became a musician again (!) I discovered that the only way I could enjoy an organ recital fully was to listen to the organ first, the music second, and the player third. The main thing I want to hear at an organ recital is ALL of the organ, though not at once and throughout. It is so important to hear stops individually, and I believe except in a few instances that all (8 & 4 at least) are voices/ designed to do so. So few recital goers get to hear the magic of a rohrflute, or the poingancy (sp--too late) of a Koppel Flute, the wierdness of a quintaton. even strings are interesting alone without celestes. all solo reeds should be displayed. the literature is second, and to me needs to be beautiful, have intelligent movement, a beginning and an end. as the saying goes, i like to be able to whistle something on the way home. i do not like to witness ego recitals. i would prefer that a performed make a mistake or two rather than be flailing all over the place making the music and instrument look savagely out of control. ease and elegance are captivatting to me. I also try to enjoy each organ/room individually, not compared with my ultimate perfect model. I love recitals and sure do miss having them available as when I lived in the great northeast Bruce Cornely, organist (OHS & AGO) University United Methodist Church and Student Center Wicks ('56) 3/16r Gainesville Florida Dean, Gainesville Chapter AGO
(back) Subject: Desperately Seeking Substitute Organist From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Sheridan Mascall) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 14:53:02 +1000 Hi, all, This pertains mostly to our Sydney contingent of members: First Church of Christ, Scientist, Dee Why (Sydney) requires a substitute organist for the three week period between and including Sunday 28th December and Wednesday 14th January. The regular organist (me!) is taking vacation time and our two usual substitutes are both either unavailable or already fully booked. The Sunday service consists of some 10 minutes of voluntary music to commence, three hymns, a solo (to be provided), offertory and postlude. The honorarium is $35 (cash). The Wednesday evening service comprises three hymns plus pre- and post- voluntary music. Honorarium $30. Are you, or do you know anyone who is, available to substitute? I would be enormously grateful for any leads. Hoping that the List will come through with the goods, as usual! Regards to all, ~Sheridan~
(back) Subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Substitute Organist From: email@example.com (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:46:32 -0400 I'll be happy to play for you; $35 is fine; all you need do is provide food, housing and transportation from FLORIDA, and two extra seats on the plane for my beagles (the movies are awful in cargo). See you soooooooooooooon. Bruce Cornely, organist (OHS & AGO) University United Methodist Church and Student Center Wicks ('56) 3/16r Gainesville Florida Dean, Gainesville Chapter AGO
(back) Subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Substitute Organist From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Sheridan Mascall) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 15:54:37 +1000 bruce cornely wrote: > > I'll be happy to play for you; $35 is fine; all you need do is provide > food, housing and transportation from FLORIDA, and two extra seats on > the plane for my beagles (the movies are awful in cargo). > > See you soooooooooooooon. > > Bruce Cornely, organist (OHS & AGO) > University United Methodist Church > and Student Center Wicks ('56) 3/16r Gainesville > Florida > Dean, Gainesville Chapter AGO > *giggling* Should I have specified Serious replies? :) Bruce, what are you doing up? It it nearly 2am! Go to bed!