PipeChat Digest #317 - Friday, April 3, 1998
 
Re: Pipe Organ needs Chimes
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Fwd: Pipe Organ Restoration Grants
  by "Dr. Peter G. Pocock" <pgpocock@ix.netcom.com>
Home Practice Organ
  by "W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net>
Re: Pipe Organ Restoration Grants
  by "ScottFop" <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Home Practice Organ
  by "GRS Co LVR" <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
St. Mary's RC Church, Georgetown, MA
  by "Greg" <homza@indiana.edu>
Re: Baldwin Electronic Organ For Home Practice
  by "Beau Surratt" <beaupiano@earthlink.net>
Re: Pipe Organ Restoration Grants
  by "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com>
Organ Blue Book Lookup Request
  by "John Balboni" <JohnB@GCQ.net>
Re: Pipe Organ Restoration Grants
  by "TJ Plajer" <c_cortex@mail.geocities.com>
Organ Restoration
  by "Kaiser, M.- Lancee, T" <lankai@netrover.com>
Piano list info sought and my new "toy"
  by "ScottFop" <ScottFop@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ needs Chimes From: dougcampbell@juno.com (Douglas A. Campbell) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:58:52 EST     On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:02:08 EST SchultzRH <SchultzRH@aol.com> writes: >Wanted for a good organ in Philadelphia Area: Set of chimes that work >well and >sound good; don't need to look good, 25 notes (or more) > >E-Mail information directly to me, please > >Ralph Schultz >Schultzrh@aol.com > Dear Ralph,   Do need Just the chime tubes?   Complete system (Tubes and action) ?   or A Complete installation? (ie having an organ builder install and comnnect to your console ?)     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Fwd: Pipe Organ Restoration Grants From: "Dr. Peter G. Pocock" <pgpocock@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 07:16:01 -0800   The following message was sent from our webpage. Please reply directly to the writer if you have any information.   Thanks, Pete!   ======Forwarded Message=======   Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:41:49 -0800 From: "Judith R. Hartzell" <judyhrtz@csrlink.net> Subject: Pipe Organ Restoration Grants   Hello!   Our church is facing heavy costs for the restoration of our Austin Organ, installed in 1927. I hoped that you may have information regarding any grants that might be available. The committee is also considering the purchase of an electronic organ as a replacement, rather than get involved in restoring our present instrument. Can you offer any help? Thanks for any information you can provide.   Sincerely, Judy Hartzell First Presbyterian, Altoona, PA    
(back) Subject: Home Practice Organ From: " W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:16:34 -0500     Beau,     I agree with what Doug said about a pratice organ. I got my Allen from the local dealer for about 5,000 dollars. You should do a lot of shoping before picking out one to buy. They can be expensive so you must buy one that will do what you need it to do, and not break you bank at the same time. A self-contained organ with internal speakers is probably almost a must for any home organ. You don't want speakers all over the place, also a headphone jack is a nice added feature. Some come with them as standard equipment, others like Allen have to install them at your request. I have one on my organ and it is useful when you don't want to bother other people with your music. Keep looking and maybe you'll find a free one that's not junk! Sometimes churches sell their old electronics at lower prices than they are worth, look and you might get a great deal. Keep me informed and if you need any help let me know and I'll do all I can.   Sincerely,   Will Scarboro (A.K.A. Stentorphone)   **************************************************** Will Scarboro, Organ Historian (In Training) Organist, Pineda Presbyterian Church, Melbourne, Florida U.S.A 1996 OHS E. Power Biggs Fellow Municipal Organ Research Project ****************************************************    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ Restoration Grants From: ScottFop <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:19:28 EST   In a message dated 98-04-02 10:16:53 EST, you write:   << Our church is facing heavy costs for the restoration of our Austin Organ, installed in 1927. I hoped that you may have information regarding any grants that might be available. The committee is also considering the purchase of an electronic organ as a replacement, rather than get involved in restoring our present instrument. Can you offer any help? Thanks for any information you can provide. >>   Good luck. I just sent 13 letters to some of the biggest grant foundations in this part of the country, right here in Pittsburgh (The Mellon Grant, the Heinz and Carnegie Grants, etc etc etc) for the very same reason and NONE of them will help a church in a project like this. If the money is not raised by a congregation or donated by some very benevolent individual- then too bad (at least that's what appears to be the case.) Believe me- I am very upset about it myself, especially as my church seems to be getting tighter and tighter by the hour (and that is no exaggeration)  
(back) Subject: Re: Home Practice Organ From: GRS Co LVR <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:08:50 EST   Hello list,,,and 'specially for Beau   I agree with other listers' about purchase of practice instruments. I have been playing for nigh on to 45 years and have seen a whole lot of changes. There are instruments perfectly acceptable for practice just about anywhere if one has the time and inclination to search them out, and for a relatively modest price also. My own personal opinion is that sticking with a very very recognized "brand" if you will,,,will keep you out of trouble. In that regard, a practice instrument that is just that,, 2 manual and pedal (AGO of course) is all that is needed, if you are PRACTICING, not playing or entertaining, and this infers serious practice of course. Gee Gaws,,,lights and bells and whistles and all those frills just make maintenance headaches down the road,,,, I have had the fortune to be able to repair anything that I have owned, but I know that this is not the case with everyone. No instrument is maintenance free,,,but there are those in my opinion that are much more reliable than others. This opinion comes from many years of repairing electronic organs as well as pipe organs. Look for an Allen, Beau, I don't think you can go wrong...   Roc  
(back) Subject: St. Mary's RC Church, Georgetown, MA From: Greg <homza@indiana.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:32:03 -0500 (EST)   Greetings, Listers...   Is anyone familiar with a St. Mary's Roman Catholic Church in Georgetown (outside of Boston), Massachusetts? I have to play a wedding there next year, and am interested in knowing the builder/size/condition of the organ, the size of the building, the amount of reverb, and anything else you think I should know in planning music for the wedding...   Any help that you can offer would be most appreciated.   Thanks, -greg    
(back) Subject: Re: Baldwin Electronic Organ For Home Practice From: "Beau Surratt" <beaupiano@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:55:41 -0600   In some ways yes, in some ways no. With all of the other replies, I DON'T think I'm going to get. I've decided to shop around.     Beau   ----------  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ Restoration Grants From: "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 14:05:48 PST   Well,   Good luck trying to get any outside help. Most, if not all, churches that choose to restore their organ end up spending their own money. I must say that I hope someone will help out in restoring this Austin, especially if it is a large one. Good Austins of this date are a little hard to come by. I can only hope that the church will realize what they have regardless of what condition the organ is in. It truly would be a shame to see something like that get thrown out for an electronic instrument that will surely not last as long as the Austin did. I really don't know why groups like the AGO can't find a way to help out with such (semi) historic instruments. Yeah, I know there would be a lot of people ringing phones off the hook asking for money but... ATOS (American Theatre Organ Society), from my observation, does set aside some money for the restoration of instruments. Let's just hope we won't continue to lose any instruments, such as a 1927 Austin, to such measures. (Sigh) O.K. I am off of my soap box now.   Best Wishes,   _____ | | Sean M. Haley / NWOrganer | | Organist,Pianist,Composer,Piano Tech. () ()......................................() () .............................................| | .............................................|___|     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Organ Blue Book Lookup Request From: JohnB@GCQ.net (John Balboni) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:11:02 -0500   Does anyone have a current organ blue book, that they could look up the pricing for a Technics SX-FA1 organ that is 3 years old?   Thanks in advance for your help ...   John   Email: JohnB@GCQ.net    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ Restoration Grants From: TJ Plajer <c_cortex@mail.geocities.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:37:00 -0800 (PST)     ScottFop wrote: > > In a message dated 98-04-02 10:16:53 EST, you write: > > << Our church is facing heavy costs for the restoration of our Austin Organ, > installed in 1927. I hoped that you may have information regarding   Here is somthing close to this situation, but too late to fix:   A church and school I used to go to some 10 years ago back then started to do things that irratated me when a new pastor(tyrant) took over. the first thing he did was CARPET!?! the entire marble sanctuary, and cut out a huge pine tree in front. I left this church in 1988 because I could not stand the heartless tyrant (pastor). however, just a few weeks ago, I visited this church again, and found out a horrible discovery: the organ sounded VERY weak, and the sound had a tinniness to it. When I enquired about it, I was told that the 2 manual 20 stop pipe organ of unknown make( in 10 years I forgot to remember the specs, and the chrch didn't know either] had been JUNKED due to cost of maintainence AND of all things, a burned out blower motor!! now how hard is it to fix this problem? I never knew that an AC 3 phase electric motor is SOOO hard and expensive to replace? So now instead of pipes inside the organ chmbers, there are cheap speakers inside.... BTW, when I asked about the history of the old instrument, nobody knew! now I remenber why I left this dump....   -- A Plain Generic .SIG File..... If you're daring :), visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3914    
(back) Subject: Organ Restoration From: "Kaiser, M.- Lancee, T" <lankai@netrover.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:51:54 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BD5E9A.B29DC320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   This is my first posting. Because I have an interest in the restoration = of my parish's organ, I may have some advice for anyone (Mr. Foppiano = (sp.?) in particular) who has to become involved in the care of an = instrument. Our organ is originally an 1884 S. R. Warren tracker, = enlarged and converted in 1911 by Casavant. In the early 1950's, it was = installed in my parish, St. Cuthbert's Anglican Church, Toronto, = Ontario, Canada. Its condition has been neglected over the last several = years. When I began my involvement with the ministry of music at St. = Cuthberts, I asked the permission of the priest to make inquiries of at = least four firms to assess the state of the instrument and what they = would suggest is necessary to restore the organ to optimum condition. = After securing documents from three of the four firms, I was able to = recommend the proposal of one. I first advised the priest of the = condition of the organ (with graphic displays by the new service = company) and suggested that a restoration was necessary to see the = instrument well into its second century of service. After that, the = Parish Council was apprised and unanimously concurred. The Organ = Restoration Fund was started with a Broadway "Rhapsody of Song" last = November. This is all said in order to suggest that you must approach a = restoration project first the priest (or clergy...they are always in = charge), next with the supervisory Council, Board, Committee (or = whatever) with the facts of what is necessary, make an intelligent, = convincing case, then end with the "ballpark" cost of the project. We = at St. Cuthbert's are not "flush" with money, but with the priest, the = Parish Council and, of course, the Choir in the camp of the "righteous." = we are going to prevail. The cost of the organ restoration is, I must = add, being folded into a Capital Plan to include some added office = space, meeting rooms, a new elevator, washroom and ramp requirements. = If anyone wishes even more detailed information, please e-,ail me at = lankai@netrover.com=20   Further, the Royal School of Church Music, Toronto Branch, is offering a = Summer Course with organ, choral, worship planning and.....get = this.....interpersonal skills being addressed! For information, contact = me at the above address. Sorry for the length, but the preservation, = restoration and love of our instrument and the ministry of music are all = very important to me. If any of this makes it onto the list, think of = it as a lurker's initial contribution. :-) Your hunble servant in our = Father's musical vineyards.......   Michael Kaiser   ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BD5E9A.B29DC320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>This is my first posting.&nbsp; = Because I have=20 an interest in the restoration of my parish's organ, I may have some = advice for=20 anyone (Mr. Foppiano (sp.?) in particular) who has to become involved in = the=20 care of an instrument.&nbsp; Our organ is originally an 1884 S. R. = Warren=20 tracker, enlarged and converted in 1911 by Casavant.&nbsp; In the early = 1950's,=20 it was installed in my parish, St. Cuthbert's Anglican Church, Toronto, = Ontario,=20 Canada.&nbsp; Its condition has been neglected over the last several=20 years.&nbsp; When I&nbsp; </FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>began my = involvement=20 with the ministry of music at St. Cuthberts, I asked the permission of = the=20 priest to&nbsp; make inquiries of at least four firms to assess the = state of the=20 instrument and what they would suggest is necessary to restore the organ = to=20 optimum condition.&nbsp; After securing documents from three of the four = firms,=20 I was able to recommend the proposal of one.&nbsp; I first advised the = priest of=20 the condition of the organ (with graphic displays by the new service = company)=20 and suggested that a restoration was necessary to see the instrument = well into=20 its second century of service.&nbsp; After that, the Parish Council was = apprised=20 and unanimously concurred.&nbsp; The Organ Restoration Fund was started = with a=20 Broadway &quot;Rhapsody of Song&quot; last November.&nbsp; This is all = said in=20 order to suggest that you must approach a restoration project first the = priest=20 (or clergy...they are always in charge), next with the supervisory = Council,=20 Board, Committee (or whatever)&nbsp; with the facts of what is = necessary,&nbsp;=20 make an intelligent, convincing case, then end with the=20 &quot;ballpark&quot;&nbsp; cost of the project.&nbsp; We at St. = Cuthbert's are=20 not &quot;flush&quot; with money, but with the priest, the Parish = Council and,=20 of course, the Choir in the camp of the &quot;righteous.&quot; we are = going to=20 prevail.&nbsp; The cost of the organ restoration is, I must add, being = folded=20 into a Capital Plan to include some added office space, meeting rooms, a = new=20 elevator, washroom and ramp requirements.&nbsp; If anyone wishes even = more=20 detailed information, please e-,ail me at <A=20 href=3D"mailto:lankai@netrover.com">lankai@netrover.com</A> = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Further, the Royal School of Church = Music,=20 Toronto Branch, is offering a Summer Course with organ, choral, worship = planning=20 and.....get this.....interpersonal skills being addressed!&nbsp; For=20 information, contact me at the above address.&nbsp; Sorry for the = length, but=20 the preservation, restoration and love of our instrument and the = ministry of=20 music are all very important to me.&nbsp; If any of this makes it onto = the list,=20 think of it as a lurker's&nbsp; initial contribution. :-)&nbsp; Your = hunble=20 servant in our Father's musical vineyards.......</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Michael = Kaiser</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BD5E9A.B29DC320--    
(back) Subject: Piano list info sought and my new "toy" From: ScottFop <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:56:04 EST   I am looking for any lists or newsgroups (similar to Pipeorg-L and Pipechat-L) that deal with, as their subject matter, player pianos. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated.   By the way- I just got a "new toy" that sits 10 feet from the Wicks- a 1925 Straube player piano which is in absolutely beautiful and has been totally restored to "new" condition.   And WHAT a nice diversion on occasion!!!   Scott Foppiano