PipeChat Digest #322 - Wednesday, April 8, 1998
 
Re: Southern Baptist
  by "Kenneth O. Woods" <kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil>
Re: Southern Baptist
  by "Kevin M. Simons" <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu>
Re: Reed boots
  by "dmjd" <jimdave@rnet.com>
(fwd) Pipe Organ in Danger
  by "Dr. Edward Peterson" <epeterso@madison.tdsnet.com>
Re: WAX!!!
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Easter Music
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: WAX!!!
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Reed boots
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Wicks Organ
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: WAX!!!
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Easter Music
  by <swiberg@spry.com>
Re: Easter Music
  by "Kevin M. Simons" <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu>
Ch. of the Heavenly Rest - NYC - Maundy Thursday
  by "OrganNYC" <OrganNYC@aol.com>
Ch. of the Heavenly Rest - NYC - Good Friday
  by "OrganNYC" <OrganNYC@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Southern Baptist From: kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil (Kenneth O. Woods) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 98 7:01:49 EST   > I just have one question (talking about ALL churches now) - Unless you > have been in the South and studied our strange ways, what would someone > from Wisconsin know about Southern Baptists? > I think you forget how mobile our society is. Just one small example, I am a lifelong Methodist who went to Texas, married a Southern Baptist girl and brought her back to Indiana. So Southern Baptists can show up a long way from the South. And just a footnote, all Methodist churches definitely do not fall into the category of "high church". Mine sadly misses the mark by several liturgical paces.     -- Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil  
(back) Subject: Re: Southern Baptist From: "Kevin M. Simons" <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 07:55:40 -0500   Kenneth O. Woods wrote:   > I think you forget how mobile our society is. Just one small example, I > am a lifelong Methodist who went to Texas, married a Southern Baptist girl > and brought her back to Indiana. So Southern Baptists can show up a long > way from the South. And just a footnote, all Methodist churches definitely > do not fall into the category of "high church". Mine sadly misses the mark > by several liturgical paces. > > -- > Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil   I realize this is way off topic, but I felt the need to put my two cents in. High church to one person is very different to another. Case in point, my former church. It was a Methodist church, and last year the pastor decided to start using a crucifer to process before the choir. People were OUTRAGED! They said it was too Catholic. Now, I didn't consider it all that high church. It just goes to show you that high church to one person is low church to another. To me, high church means sanctus bells, some form of chant, incense and a liturgically flowing service (everything blends together well from the hymns to the sermon). However, to others, those things may all be the standard. To me, being a former Methodist they're all cherries on top of the sundae!   I'll get off my soapbox now.   Kevin M. Simons Organist, St. Thomas More Catholic Church Norman, Oklahoma  
(back) Subject: Re: Reed boots From: dmjd <jimdave@rnet.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:20:10 -0500   Kevin: Perhaps the mere weight of the resonators wedged them into the boots. It does happen, you know (maybe you don't). As organists, and technicians, we're NOT in the business of continually cutting down other technicians, and a bit of discretion is indicated here. JimmyD   -- "Remember Maine" Rainbow Ridge Farm Plainville Illinois 62365          
(back) Subject: (fwd) Pipe Organ in Danger From: epeterso@madison.tdsnet.com (Dr. Edward Peterson) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 01:50:02 -0500   PipeOrglers/PipeChatterers:   Anyone who might be interested in this information is encouraged to reply privately to the appropriate address. I have no additional information on the instrument.   Dr.Ed   -----   <FWD MAIL>   >Dear Dr. Peterson: > >I am writing to you in hopes that you can assist me in distributing the >following message. I had been planning to send it to the ROS List and >perhaps find some other appropriate lists but just have not had the time to >research it and get it sent. I am not very familiar with using the lists >yet. Have only been online a short time. Also, with two small children >and having just moved from New Mexico to Virginia, I have had my hands >full. > >My father was told about this pipe organ via one of his salesmen. I would >love to have a pipe organ myself but I don't think I have the space for >it!! Anyway I would surely hate to learn it was demolished, so thought the >word could be spread and maybe at least a temporary home could be found. >As the note states, time is short. Feel free to send copies wherever you >think it would be useful. > >I hope to be signing up for the ROS List soon. I have a few queries of my >own regarding restoring the 3 reed organs I own. > > >Thank you, > >Debra L. Kulick >13947 Stonefield Dr >Clifton, VA 20124 >703-830-4344 >email: 110366.3561@compuserve.com > >Forwarded Message: > >> Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 10:38:25 >> From: Charles Johnson >> To: Blyly, Larry >> Subject: Pipe Organ >> >> >> Hi Larry! >> >> I received your letter todayconcerning the pipe organ. Below are some of >> the measurements that you had requested: (Trumbull Electric Pipe Organ, >> Cat #2251) >> >> 1) The pipe room which contains all but 27 of the largest pipes >> is 10 feet by 5 feet. The room contains everything but the 27 large >> pipes which are displayed in the main auditorium of the old church. >> >> 2) The largest pipe is 9 feet long. >> >> 3) The organ is 63 inches side to side, 51 inches high, and 60 >> inches front to back (includes the pedals). >> >> As far as it's value, I don't have the slightest clue. I would rely on >> your integrity for a price. >> >> We need to get the organ out within a couple of months as we will be >> starting demolition of the building somewhere at that time. >> >> I would appreciate it greatly, if we could find someone to buy it. >> >> Contact me at: Tabernacle3@juno.com >> Fax #1-732-254-5601 >> Phone #1-732-254-0348 or 1-732-257-1096 (home) >> >> Thanks alot! >> >> Charles Johnson >    
(back) Subject: Re: WAX!!! From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:10:51 -0400     >For those who wear robes or cassocks that zip, have you ever >considered >having the zipper sown upside down, so that it zips from top to >bottom? >It's great, that way you can adjust the zipper and have the robe >"fall" >to the back like a tails coat, etc.     I have a robe that zips up. I use paperclips to keep it shut!   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Easter Music From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:12:32 -0400   Just interested in what some other organists are playing on Easter Sunday.   I'm doing "Trumpet Tune" by Purcell for the prelude, Widor's IV Toccata for the Postlude, Children's Choir is singing during the offertory, First Hymn is "Christ the Lord Is Risen Today" Second Hymn: "Easter People, Raise Your Voices" Third Hymn: "He Lives" Communion Music: I haven't decided yet.   I think that I and many other people would like to know what someone else is playing.   Well, I'd better go practice.     Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: WAX!!! From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:58:42 -0400     On 30 Mar 1998 23:44:08 EDT Fred@ecr.net writes: > >PI>Speaking of which, how many of you who are visible from the >congregation >PI>use a choir robe? > >PI> --Shirley > I could remember when they couldn't even see me at all. I was about 10 when I first started to play the organ and Bethany UM in Watertown NY. They thought the organ was playing itself!!   Today, They see just about from the middle of my chest-up. The console faces the congregation in a "pit".   I don't like it set up like that because you can't judge the sound with the choir which is in front of you divided by a wall. I'll give full details of my plans later.   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: Reed boots From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:51:29 -0400   Take the pipe, lay it sideways, carefully grab the block rim and boot. Gently and carefully twist them in opositte directions. If you hit the boot and block against the supports, the boot may make and indent in the block and force the boot into the block making it virtually impossible to open tham again.   I've done that many times before to clean out inbetween the tounge and shallot of all the fine hair that get caught in the tounge.       On Sun, 05 Apr 1998 20:56:48 -0500 Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> writes: >Does anyone have any ideas of how to open reed boots other than >tapping, >bumping, hitting, banging, smashing them against supports. Our last >technician hit the 16's so hard, they left dents in the support!! >Those >reeds sound like crap now (I wonder why). > >Kevin C. >kevin1@alaweb.com > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: Wicks Organ From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:03:08 -0400   I get really lazy on my C.E. Morey Organ because the contacts meet about a millimeter ( a very, VERY SMALL incriment) from the rest position. The touch is SO light that I can't keep asteady rythem during anything. INCLUDING Widors IV Tocatta. THe pedal board is just the same except 3/4 of the contacts don't work. I'm not even going to try cleaning them because if the church would have kept it up, this wouldn't have happenned in the first place. All My notes blend together at a different rate. I've tryied looking for the springs, but I can't find them. I know it isn't the contacts that make the tension.     > ><< Can anyone tell me if there is a way to make the touch a little >stiffer on >the manuals? The slightest graze will generally make the pipe sound >off. >Thanks in advance for your help. >> > >I know that there is, but I don't know how to do it myself. My Wicks >here in >the house was the same as what you describe and Brant Duddy adjusted >the >manuals and made them MUCH better than they were. I am sure Wicks can >help >you with it, they have a web site. > >Scott Foppiano > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: WAX!!! From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:33:43 -0400     >> Oh, and Kevin? It's a good thing they have you on Sunday mornings >to fix >> stuff!   I had to do the same thing Sunday (Palm Sunday)   During the Affirmation of Faith, which was a long on, I noticed a whistling. Actually, it was a reedy sound. I stopped reading and listened for a second.   I notice it was the Middle "D" Trumpet pipe ciphering. It was loud enough that it could be heard during the Gloria Patri sung right after. So, In utter discust because the organ isn't taken care of properly by the church, I adventured into the chamber, While the organ played nice and LOUD! and opened the Swell Box and went looking for the troublesome pipe. While on a half rest, they heard me pull the Trumpet pipe out of the oe board with the sound it nakes when you pull it out. They stopped singing and the organist stopped playing until I came out and showed them the pipe. I got a standing Ovation. :-) After that, during the second hymn, the organist is the kind of person who likes to fool around with the Swell pedal during the Hymns. Well, she did it one time too much. For the air hose (actually the Dry Hose [URGH!!!!!] ) came out of the Swell resivoir. The resivior dropped in pressure and in an attempt to draw more air, it made the Great resivoir drop also. So, I crawled under the Swell box next to the HOT blower and with the air from the tremulant flopping in my face (she also had that on too) I found the hose and hollared, "DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY DUCT TAPE???!!!!" The congregation stopped singing and started laughing. I think that is all it takes to get the Admin. Board to GET IT'S ######### TOGETHER AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!   Well, I'd better be off and get some of this SPRING SUN.   Later.   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: Easter Music From: swiberg@spry.com Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:20:02 -0700       On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) wrote: >Just interested in what some other organists are playing on Easter >Sunday. > > >Jason Comet >bombarde8@juno.com > |\ > | \ >O     For the postlude this year I'll be playing the Finale from Guilmant's First Sonata.   Steve Wiberg Emmanuel Episcopal Church Mercer Island, WA 1970 Beckerath, 2m/36r    
(back) Subject: Re: Easter Music From: "Kevin M. Simons" <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 15:57:18 -0500   At St. Thomas we are doing:   Silent Prelude Opening Hymn: Jesus Christ is Risen Today Offertory: Improv on "Judas Maccabeus" and "Victory" Closing Hymn: I know that my Redeemer Lives Postlude: Handel's Hornpipe   Getting the Hornpipe whipped into shape is keeping me plenty busy! Have a blessed Holy Week everyone.   Kevin M. Simons Organist, St. Thomas More Catholic Church Norman, Oklahoma  
(back) Subject: Ch. of the Heavenly Rest - NYC - Maundy Thursday From: OrganNYC <OrganNYC@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:33:32 EDT   Church of the Heavenly Rest Fifth Avenue at 90th Street - NYC   The Rev. James L. Burns, Rector Mollie H. Nichols, Director of Music (conducting) Steven E. Lawson, Assisting Musician (organist)   Maundy Thursday, April 9, 1998 - 6:30 p.m.   Prelude: Le Banquet Celeste -- Olivier Messiaen Opening Hymn 313: Let thy blood in mercy poured (Jesus, meine Zuversicht) Kyrie, Hymnal S-90 -- John Merbecke   Sequence Hymn 329: Now, my tongue, the mystery telling (Pange lingua)   The Ceremony of Foot Washing Anthems: Mode 2, Mozarabic and Mode 7 The Lord Jesus, after he had supped Peace is my last gift to you By this shall the world know Hymn 606: Where true charity and love dwell (Ubi caritas) Anthem: Ubi caritas -- Maurice Durufle Hymn 602: Jesu, Jesu (Ghanaian Folk Song)   At the Offertory, Anthem Ave verum Corpus -- W.A. Mozart At the Presentation: We give thee but thine own Sanctus, Hymnal S-113 -- John Merbecke Agnus Dei, Hymnal S-157 -- John Merbecke Anthem: Pange lingua -- Anton Bruckner Hymn 168: O sacred head, sore wounded (Passion Chorale)   Hymn after Communion 171: Go to dark Gethsemane (Petra) Psalm 22    
(back) Subject: Ch. of the Heavenly Rest - NYC - Good Friday From: OrganNYC <OrganNYC@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:01:18 EDT   Church of the Heavenly Rest Fifth Avenue at 90th Street - NYC   The Proper Liturgy for Good Friday and the Stations of the Cross April 10, 1998 -- 12 noon - 3:00 p.m.   The Rev. James L. Burns, Rector Mollie H. Nichols, Director of Music (conducting) Steven E. Lawson, Assisting Musician (organist) 5 manual Austin/Konzelman - 148 ranks (several have asked) (choir in gallery throughout service) N.B. I didn't list every single detail, but you'll get the idea!   Procession (in silence) Choral Meditation: Hear my prayer, O Lord -- Henry Purcell Psalm 22:1-2, 7-8, 14-21 -- Plainsong Hymn 158: Ah, holy Jesus (Herzliebster Jesu) Choral Meditation: Am Abend, da es kuehle war -- J.S. Bach Hymn 168: O sacred head, sore wounded (Passion Chorale) The Passion according to St. John Hymn 172: Were you there? (Were you there?) Meditation Choral Meditation: Zerflisse -- J.S. Bach The Solemn Collects Choral Meditation: Sweet little Jesus boy -- arr. Nancy Wersch Meditation Hymn 160: Cross of Jesus (Cross of Jesus) The Veneration of the Cross Choir: The Reproaches -- Tomas Luis da Victoria The Lord's Prayer Collect The Way of the Cross Collect Hymn in Procession 166: Sing my tongue the glorious battle (Pange lingua)   The Stations of the Cross (an architect/artist in the parish painted the 14 stations last year and they are hanging in the nave again this year. He's an incredible artist and the paintings are nothing short of spectacular!)   (Each Station has an acclamation, Collect, and Meditation, some have a choral or organ meditation, and all end with singing the Trisagion)   First Station: Jesus is Condemned to Death Organ Meditation: Jesus est condamne a mort -- Marcel Dupre (all Dupre pieces from "Chemin de la Croix") Second Station: Jesus Takes up His Cross no music except Trisagion Third Station: Jesus Falls the First Time Organ: Jesus tombe sous le poids de sa crois - Dupre Fourth Station: Jesus Meets his Afflicted Mother Choir: In ieiunio et fletu orabant sacerdoetes -- Thomas Tallis Fifth Station: The Cross is Laid on Simon of Cyrene no music except Trisagion The Sixth Station: A Woman WIpes the Face of Jesus no music except Trisagion The Seventh Station: Jesus Falls a Second Time no music except Trisagion The Eighth Station: Jesus Meets the Women of Jerusalem Organ: Jesus console les fille d'Israel qui le suivent -- Dupre The Ninth Station: Jesus Falls a Third Time no music except Trisagion The Tenth Station: Jesus is Stripped of His Garments no music except Trisagion The Eleventh Station: Jesus is Nailed to the Cross Organ: Jesus est attache sur la Croix -- Dupre The Twelfth Station: Jesus dies on the Cross Organ: Jesus meurt sur la Croix -- Dupre The Thirteenth Station: The Body of Jesus is Placed in the Arms of His Mother Choir: God so loved the world -- John Stainer The Fourteenth Station: Jesus is Laid in the Tomb Solo: Pie Jesu (from Requiem) -- Gabriel Faure   Concluding Prayers before the Altar Collects Silent Procession