PipeChat Digest #324 - Thursday, April 9, 1998
 
Holy Week and Easter, Westbury NY (x-post)
  by <mewzishn@spec.net>
<none>
  by <JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu>
Re: recital
  by "Kenneth O. Woods" <kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil>
Re: <none>
  by "OHMER72" <OHMER72@aol.com>
May 17th Pickwick Theatre Correction (X-Posted)
  by "Steven Margison" <mgcfngrs@ameritech.net>
Pipe up and be Heard - huh !
  by "Emutek Systems, Inc." <sales@emutek.com>
Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh !
  by "Kenneth O. Woods" <kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil>
Re: <none>
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Maundy Thursday
  by "Beau Surratt" <beaupiano@earthlink.net>
<none>
  by <JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu>
Re: <none>
  by "OHMER72" <OHMER72@aol.com>
Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh !
  by "Bob Luderer" <bobsled@nji.com>
Re: <none>
  by "Stephen F P Karr" <karrlist@scescape.net>
Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh !
  by "Jeffrey Pederson" <jwpeder@viaccess.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #320 - 04/06/98
  by "Shirley" <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh !
  by "Shirley" <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh !
  by "Kenneth O. Woods" <kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil>
Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh !
  by "GRS Co LVR" <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: Southern Baptist
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: WAX!!!
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh !
  by <mewzishn@spec.net>
Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh !
  by "GRS Co LVR" <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh !
  by <danbel@earthlink.net>
Re[2]: Pipe up and be Heard - huh !
  by "Robert Ehrhardt" <ehr@softdisk.com>
Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh !
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: Easter Music
  by "Patricia R. Maimone" <patmai@juno.com>
 


(back) Subject: Holy Week and Easter, Westbury NY (x-post) From: mewzishn@spec.net Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 07:51:37 +0000   Church of the Advent, Westbury, New York (a parish in the Diocese of Long Island) The Rev'd Jeffrey H. Krantz, rector Kenneth L. Sybesma, choirmaster and organist     Maundy Thursday, 9 April 1998, 9.00 pm   Voluntary, "Adagio (Symphony, Op. 78)" Camille Saint-Saens Chant in Procession, Ubi Caritas Kyrie S-96, Schubert/Proulx Psalm 78, Anglican chant (Kennedy) Chant at the Gospel Procession, "Peace is my last gift..." Hymn at the Presentation and Preparation 315, Song 1 Dialogue S-120, plainsong Sanctus S-130, Schubert/Proulx Lord’s Prayer S-119, plainsong Fraction Anthem S-164, Schubert/Proulx Voluntary at the Communion, "Prelude on 'Malabar' " Leo Sowerby Hymn after the Communion 329, Pange lingua Stripping of the Altar: Psalm 22, Deus, Deus meus Retiring Procession in silence     Good Friday, 10 April 1998, 12.00 pm   Procession in silence Psalm 22, Anglican chant (Kennedy) Hymn at the Gospel Procession 168, Herzlich tut mich verlangen Voluntary at the Communion, "Gymnopédie 1" Erik Satie Hymn after the Communion 442, Tomter Retiring Procession in silence     Easter Sunday, 12 April 1998, 8.30 & 11.00 am   Voluntary, "Variations on 'O filii et filiæ' " Jeanne Demessieux Hymn at the Entrance Procession 175, Salve festa dies Song of Praise 417, Festival Canticle Psalm 118, Anglican chant (Kennedy) Hymn at the Gospel Procession 194, St. Albinus Anthem at the Presentation, "The Strife is O’er" Francis W. Snow Hymn at the Preparation 190, Fisk of Gloucester Dialogue S-120, plainsong Sanctus S-128, Matthias Lord’s Prayer S-119, plainsong Fraction Anthem, "The disciples knew the Lord Jesus" Anthems at the Communion, "Alleluia" Randall Thompson "God So Loved the World" John Stainer Hymn after the Communion 213, Middlebury Hymn at the Retiring Procession 207, Easter Hymn (Lyra Davidica) Voluntary, "Toccata (Symphony 5)" Charles Marie Widor        
(back) Subject: <none> From: JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu Date: 9 Apr 1998 09:00:08 CST/CDT   Dear fellow organists,   I am a high school senior, who is presenting his very first recital onMay 3, 1998. I will be performing:   J.S. Bach's Prelude and Fugue in G, Bwv 550 Felix Mendelsson's Sonata II in c minor Francois Couperin's Mass for the Parishes: Kyrie 1, 3, and 5 Jean Langlais' Pasticcio   In the fall, I will be strudying with Marianne Webb at SouthernIllinois University at Carbondale. Have any of you studied with her,or know someone who has. Are there any strories?     Sincerely,     Jonathan Kroepel Peoria, IL    
(back) Subject: Re: recital From: kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil (Kenneth O. Woods) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 10:05:06 EST   > > Dear fellow organists, > > I am a high school senior, who is presenting his very first recital on > May 3, 1998. I will be performing: > > J.S. Bach's Prelude and Fugue in G, Bwv 550 > Felix Mendelsson's Sonata II in c minor > Francois Couperin's Mass for the Parishes: Kyrie 1, 3, and 5 > Jean Langlais' Pasticcio > > Sincerely, > > > Jonathan Kroepel > Peoria, IL > Congratualtions Jonathan and good luck. -- Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil  
(back) Subject: Re: <none> From: OHMER72 <OHMER72@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:31:52 EDT   In a message dated 98-04-09 10:56:05 EDT, you write:   << I am a high school senior, who is presenting his very first recital on May 3, 1998. I will be performing: J.S. Bach's Prelude and Fugue in G, Bwv 550 Felix Mendelsson's Sonata II in c minor Francois Couperin's Mass for the Parishes: Kyrie 1, 3, and 5 Jean Langlais' Pasticcio >> You are presenting a VERY nice first recital and I wish you well - bet that all the list does.   And you are going to study with Ms. Webb and you want STOOOOOORIES?   Ok, list. We know that Marianne Webb is a great person and wondeful organist - even those of us who have never studied with her . But should we tell him the horror stories ;-( or the honest, real ones? :-)   I've been out of academic circulation for too many years. All I hear is that she is first class all the way.   steveohmer charlottesville va  
(back) Subject: May 17th Pickwick Theatre Correction (X-Posted) From: Steven Margison <mgcfngrs@ameritech.net> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:33:23 -0500   The most recent newsletter from CATOE (Chicago Area Theatre Organ Enthusiasts), which many of you may encounter directly or by hearsay, has an egregious error. On May 17th at the Pickwick Theatre in Park Forest, IL, there will be a performance of "WINGS", the 1927 classic, accompanied by Jay Warren, as part of the Pickwick's 70th anniversary. In the CATOE newsletter President John Peters claims that he and a committee of CATOE are hard at work on this show. In point of fact, CATOE HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS SHOW AND NEITHER JOHN PETERS NOR CATOE ARE INVOLVED IN ANY WAY UNLESS THEY BUY TICKETS!   This show is a cooperative effort between the Pickwick Theatre and CTOS, the Chicagoland Theatre Organ Society, an ATOS affiliated chapter (and the only Chicago-based ATOS chapter).   I cannot imagine why John Peters of CATOE would make such an outrageous claim, when he knows full well that CATOE is not now, and never has been, involved with the production of this event. Unless, of course, it is to stir up further trouble in the Chicago area, which seems to be CATOE's only recent reason for existing.....   If you are interested in attending this performance, or another CTOS event at the Pickwick on May 31st with Greg Owen, please email me for details and I will be happy to assist you.   As for the ongoing conflict in Chicago which CATOE continues to fuel, I will NOT, repeat NOT, participate in a discussion of this topic on PIPORG-L or PIPECHAT -- it has been hashed enough in the past. |===================== Steve Margison =====================| |=== Staff Organist, Tivoli Theatre, Downers Grove, IL ===| |Organs, Theatres, Ham Radio, Lots of things at my WebSite:| |==== http://www.ameritech.net/users/mgcfngrs/home.htm ====|  
(back) Subject: Pipe up and be Heard - huh ! From: "Emutek Systems, Inc." <sales@emutek.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:06:27 -0000   Dear chosen few of the Pipe Chat Community.   I received email from various people who seem to take offense that I offer assistance to someone looking for grants. I have also been informed by your fearless pipechat administrator that I should not/can not advertise on this net since I am using up valuable bandwidth for profit. Well I have a few comments before I disconnect from this net and reminisce about all the useful email I have been reading these past few months while I count up all my money gained by my extensive advertising campaign on this net !   It amazes me how you can say that pipe chat is for organ enthusiasts, full of knowledge etc. Let's see what delights and intellectual organ information you have divulged thus far. Well for about three weeks we have had the WAX problem - amazing stuff here, I sleep better now. Then we have who is ???, another great use of the email bandwidth I suppose ? Plus various snide comments about other peoples email.   I have not flooded pipe chat with email but have responded when people have requested information. The person in question asked for information on grants and I simply responded that I would like to help - I did not have her email address otherwise I would have used it. Well, excuse me for trying to help - I guess it is my corporate greed. Also, who said I was going to charge for this service, maybe I was going to provide financial help, maybe I was going to let her know of some free building help, maybe I was going to provide information on grants. I guess companies are already judged as being greedy !   I will continue to try and keep as many organs running as possible and offer my help. Some may use my system, many will not but so what, the goal here is to preserve and grow the organ community, not to make it an elite group of pompous, sarcastic self indulgent people.   Is it surprising that young people are not interested in Pipe Organs when they read such drivel ?     Ulric Gordon-Lewis President. Emutek Systems, Inc.  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh ! From: kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil (Kenneth O. Woods) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 13:32:30 EST   > > I will continue to try and keep as many organs running as possible and > offer my help. Some may > use my system, many will not but so what, the goal here is to preserve and > grow the organ > community, not to make it an elite group of pompous, sarcastic self > indulgent people. > > Is it surprising that young people are not interested in Pipe Organs when > they read such drivel ? > > > Ulric Gordon-Lewis > President. > Emutek Systems, Inc. > Well said in my opinion. As in any other "user" group, the associated vendors have both a vested interest and much to contribute to the group. It's always been difficult for vendors to be accepted in such groups. I believe some of us have missed the mark. I certainly have no objections to vendors being part of this list, speaking as a member, not an administrator. -- Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil  
(back) Subject: Re: <none> From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:58:48 -0400   Jonathan, Your recital looks very enjoyable; upon what will you be playing. You haven't even started studying with the nice lady and you're already looking for gossip/dirt! Shame! Please let us know what you find ;-).. Keep up posted on what you are doing and let us know how your recital goes. Be sure to remember those two magic words: Offering plates! best, bruce   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o cremona84000@webtv.net  
(back) Subject: Maundy Thursday From: Beau Surratt <beaupiano@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 14:51:27 -0500   Organ Music For Maundy Thursday- Bemis UMC   Organ Preludes- "Solemn Procession"- George Blake "Solitude" Grieg " Go To Dark Gethsemane"   Hymn- "What Woundrous Love Is This"   no postlude- Tenebrae Service     Beau Surratt  
(back) Subject: <none> From: JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu Date: 9 Apr 1998 14:15:22 CST/CDT   Dear Pipechat members   i was only looking for good strories about Ms. Webb. I have a deepadmiration for her and her music. She is a wonderful lady.   Jonathan Kroepel    
(back) Subject: Re: <none> From: OHMER72 <OHMER72@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:20:44 EDT   In a message dated 98-04-09 16:11:24 EDT, you write:   << Dear Pipechat members i was only looking for good strories about Ms. Webb. I have a deep admiration for her and her music. She is a wonderful lady. Jonathan Kroepel >>   :-{) We know that, Jonathan- we're just "Funnin" ya! And maybe we're ALL a bit jealous now that YOOOOOOOU are soooooooo yoooooung and we now, in all our expertise and knowledge feel like old fa...I mean, fogies!     steve  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh ! From: Bob Luderer <bobsled@nji.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:21:23 -0400   > I will continue to try and keep as many organs running as possible and > offer my help. Some may > use my system, many will not but so what, the goal here is to preserve and > grow the organ > community, not to make it an elite group of pompous, sarcastic self > indulgent people. > Lurker DeCloaking Great, keep it up....I don't think you were doing anything wrong by offering help.......Our friends at the organ clearing house always post stuff in the interest of saving organs, why can't you?   But Don't pick on our mindless drivel about wax and stuff, or else you will be chastised by our list owners again!    
(back) Subject: Re: <none> From: Stephen F P Karr <karrlist@scescape.net> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:24:49 -0400 (EDT)   Our esteemed tracker-backer, Mr. Cornely writes-   >Be sure to remember those two magic words: Offering plates!   If you're not giving this recital in a Southern Baptist church, you might consider changing the venue to one (I don't care how far away it is). I was a person at the door collecting money at the close of Daniel Phillips' recital at First Baptist in Augusta (a Schantz 88 rank monster with the nicest glory horn I've ever heard), and these people gave well over $600, all of which went to the AGO chapter. That was especially nice, because we didn't have to pay for him to be here. One of our members (a "sugar-daddy," as my teacher called him the Monday after), the local Rogers salesman, has been friends with Phillips since he was a student at the Charterhouse school, so he sponsored his visit. The offering was well-deserved, though. I'll say more about the recital later (when I find my program, I've forgotten half of what was on it).   -Stephen    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh ! From: Jeffrey Pederson <jwpeder@viaccess.net> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:40:19 -0300       Kenneth O. Woods wrote:   > > > > I will continue to try and keep as many organs running as possible and > > offer my help. Some may > > use my system, many will not but so what, the goal here is to preserve and > > grow the organ > > community, not to make it an elite group of pompous, sarcastic self > > indulgent people. > > > > Is it surprising that young people are not interested in Pipe Organs when > > they read such drivel ? > > > > > > Ulric Gordon-Lewis > > President. > > Emutek Systems, Inc. > > > Well said in my opinion. As in any other "user" group, the associated vendors > have both a vested interest and much to contribute to the group. It's always > been difficult for vendors to be accepted in such groups. I believe some of > us have missed the mark. I certainly have no objections to vendors being > part of this list, speaking as a member, not an administrator. > --   I couldn't agree more with you both. I've also see weeks of wax, shoes, and personal attacks. Makes me think the group at large dosen't really care where pipe organ's are positioned for the future.   We need your valueable input! It has been my experience there are simply two choices in life as well as music, YOU ARE EITHER GROWING, OR DYING.   Wake up folks!   Only by embracing the future and its changes with new ideas and techniques, and yes maybe even some electronics and computers and this field continue to grow!   Even wax has been refined over the past 50 years.   Jeff    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #320 - 04/06/98 From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 15:22:58   At 23:39 04/08/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Darryl-by-the-Sea, Are you IT for the Easter season at Coral Ridge, or >is there another organist in the picture?   A good question.... how's the organist search going, or have they already found someone to replace Colin?   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh ! From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 15:41:07     >Well said in my opinion. As in any other "user" group, the associated vendors >have both a vested interest and much to contribute to the group. It's always >been difficult for vendors to be accepted in such groups. I believe some of >us have missed the mark. I certainly have no objections to vendors being >part of this list, speaking as a member, not an administrator. >-- >Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil     Sorry, Ken, I vehemently disagree with you here. In my book, anything published on any email list that is a blatant advertisement for a profit-making organization is SPAM. I don't want it, don't need it, don't want to see it.   AND it's the lazy man's approach to salesmanship. What an easy target, these email lists!   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh ! From: kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil (Kenneth O. Woods) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 16:14:24 EST   > > > >Well said in my opinion. As in any other "user" group, the associated vendors > >have both a vested interest and much to contribute to the group. It's always > >been difficult for vendors to be accepted in such groups. I believe some of > >us have missed the mark. I certainly have no objections to vendors being > >part of this list, speaking as a member, not an administrator. > >-- > >Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil > > > Sorry, Ken, I vehemently disagree with you here. In my book, anything > published on any email list that is a blatant advertisement for a > profit-making organization is SPAM. I don't want it, don't need it, don't > want to see it. > > AND it's the lazy man's approach to salesmanship. What an easy target, > these email lists! > > --Shirley Well I believe you miss the point, and I did speak it as my opinion. I think it's time to take my leave. I joined this list because I felt it would provided me with information much of which probably would come from vendors, organ builders, book store owners etc. I have organized, chaired and successfully run user groups which included vendors.   I'm gone. -- Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh ! From: GRS Co LVR <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:17:28 EDT   Hear! Hear! I couldn't agree more folks,,,,,,,,,and cannot add anything to this thread except to say to Ulric,,,,keep up the good work in your field,,,,your product is very good, has a definite place in the industry,,,,and I plan to install at least one very soon I hope. I am an *ole fogie* in this business,,,but try to stay abreast of the technilogical changes in the field,,,and folks,,,the only difference between a rut and the grave is the depth!. The Wax,,,and the shoes,,,and the triangles,,,and all of that is fine,,in my opinion,,,but why when a person trys to help,,,,do we want to cry *profiteerism* or *selling on bandwidth* or whatever,,,,,,think about the above 2 comments,,,IMHO,,,thats where it is at!   Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: Southern Baptist From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:18:13 -0500   Kevin M. Simons wrote: > > Kenneth O. Woods wrote: > > > I think you forget how mobile our society is. Just one small example, I > > am a lifelong Methodist who went to Texas, married a Southern Baptist girl > > and brought her back to Indiana. So Southern Baptists can show up a long > > way from the South. And just a footnote, all Methodist churches definitely > > do not fall into the category of "high church". Mine sadly misses the mark > > by several liturgical paces. > > > > -- > > Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil > > I realize this is way off topic, but I felt the need to put my two cents > in. High church to one person is very different to another. Case in > point, my former church. It was a Methodist church, and last year the > pastor decided to start using a crucifer to process before the choir. > People were OUTRAGED! They said it was too Catholic. Now, I didn't > consider it all that high church. It just goes to show you that high > church to one person is low church to another. To me, high church means > sanctus bells, some form of chant, incense and a liturgically flowing > service (everything blends together well from the hymns to the sermon). > However, to others, those things may all be the standard. To me, being > a former Methodist they're all cherries on top of the sundae! > > I'll get off my soapbox now. > > Kevin M. Simons > Organist, St. Thomas More Catholic Church > Norman, Oklahoma   Wait...I think I said a highER church, not high church. And, one must remember, the difference between the little independant country Methodist churches and First Methodist churches is the same as Southern Baptist and First Baptist. AND, as posted on the origional, I was/am talking about the churches of those denominations in MY COUNTY...not everyone else's...they can speak for themselves as well, and I have no right to speak for them.   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: Re: WAX!!! From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:23:42 -0500   > I had to do the same thing Sunday (Palm Sunday) > > During the Affirmation of Faith, which was a long on, I noticed a > whistling. Actually, it was a reedy sound. I stopped reading and > listened for a second. > > I notice it was the Middle "D" Trumpet pipe ciphering. It was loud > enough that it could be heard during the Gloria Patri sung right after...   I, for some reason, had the idea you played in the mornings for a larger church with television cameras...do you??   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh ! From: mewzishn@spec.net Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 17:44:15 +0000   > SPAM   Just one brief comment: there's more spam now with everyone posting to the list. We have our own mini "virus" going again -- predictably typical. And here I am contributing to it. This is my only post on this subject. Had Mr Gordon-Lewis been *really* spamming, then the list administrators should handle it -- or a private message is appropriate -- but the simple statement that someone has experience with something, to establish some credibility that he's not just another "organ consultant" with hot air blowing through his rauschpfeiffe, and some of us gain our experience professionally and others as a "hobby" or volunteer basis. Because I'm full-time in the organ playing world means therefore I can't offer advice and help to another person on the list who requests it? How do you know I wouldn't ask to be paid (if I provided a service such as some lessons or other instruction)? I probably wouldn't, but it would not be out of the question if the line were to be crossed between a little advice and several hours of hands-on work.   Sheesh! Lighten up, folks.   Ken Sybesma        
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh ! From: GRS Co LVR <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:49:09 EDT   Shirley,,,,what you say is true,,,however from a technical point of view,,,I am interested in knowing where help might just come from when it is needed. IMHO, dissemination of information on where to turn for timely advice is definitely needed in the field of pipe organ preservation/restoration. Also,,,one persons SPAM is another persons Filet Mignon, <G>. I myself could care who is playing what,,when, where, and wearing what clothes and shoes,,and with the robe zippered how,,but I read it all anyway,,,and try not to think of it as SPAM. Think back Shirley,,,,how much better would those organs that you played in your early days have sounded,,,had technology been applied to them---even what was available then! I know,,,I was there and heard them! <G> Knowledge is NOT a bad thing! and this is on the *Information Highway* is it not.?... Folks,,,,wake up and smell the coffee!! Organ preservation is an important factor in *our* field, and we should examine all the options that are available in each individual case, but we have to know about them to examine them.   Roc ----- not looking for business,,,,has enuf!  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh ! From: danbel@earthlink.net Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:27:56 -0400   Shirley, and all....   Shirley writes: > In my book, anything >published on any email list that is a blatant advertisement for a >profit-making organization is SPAM. I don't want it, don't need it, don't >want to see it.   Does this mean that organists who are playing a concert that requires an admission price-----or an organist who had made an album of organ music and wants to announce that fact should not announce those facts via the list?   This IS advertisement after all, isn't it? BUT it IS organ oriented and related so should be proper, yes?   Shirley continues: >AND it's the lazy man's approach to salesmanship.   In the cases I outlined above, I 100% DISAGREE that there is anything remotely lazy about letting like minded people know of the availability of a product or a show that is within their supposed area of interest.   djb    
(back) Subject: Re[2]: Pipe up and be Heard - huh ! From: Robert Ehrhardt <ehr@softdisk.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 17:37:45 -0500   On 09-Apr-98, danbel@earthlink.net wrote: > Shirley, and all.... > > Shirley writes: >> In my book, anything >> published on any email list that is a blatant advertisement for a >> profit-making organization is SPAM. I don't want it, don't need it, don't >> want to see it. > > Does this mean that organists who are playing a concert that requires an > admission price-----or an organist who had made an album of organ music and > wants to announce that fact should not announce those facts via the list? > > This IS advertisement after all, isn't it? BUT it IS organ oriented and > related so should be proper, yes? > > Shirley continues: >> AND it's the lazy man's approach to salesmanship. > > In the cases I outlined above, I 100% DISAGREE that there is anything > remotely lazy about letting like minded people know of the availability of > a product or a show that is within their supposed area of interest. > > djb > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > I have to join with Dan. I have gotten so much information from the builders and technicians on the organ lists that I could not have gotten otherwise. Keep it up!   -- Robert Ehrhardt <ehr@softdisk.com> Noel Memorial UMC,Shreveport, LA Team AMIGA    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe up and be Heard - huh ! From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:41:22 -0400   Shirley wrote: > (snip) In my book, anything > published on any email list that is a blatant advertisement for a > profit-making organization is SPAM. I don't want it, don't need it, don't > want to see it. > > AND it's the lazy man's approach to salesmanship. What an easy target, > these email lists! > > --Shirley   With due respect to Shirley, I totally disagree with her catagorization of "ANYTHING" posted to THIS list by a "profit-making organization" as SPAM. New TPO CDs, recording and sheet music sources, web links...   Stan  
(back) Subject: Re: Easter Music From: patmai@juno.com (Patricia R. Maimone) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:40:40 -0400   Hello, Dr. R. J. and Pipechatters, You listed an >Instrumental Prelude: > Bach Concerto in Eb- Organ & Strings Which BWV concerto is this?   Best wishes for a happy Holy Week and blessed Easter/Passover.   Pat Maimone     _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]