PipeChat Digest #328 - Sunday, April 12, 1998
 
Re: Snipe Ripe Pipe Hype Tripe
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: FILE NOT FOUND
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Silent Film: "Grandma's Boy
  by "Bob and Sally Evans" <orgnloft@Ma.ultranet.com>
A 440.0 Hz [Xposted]
  by "ComposerTX" <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Re: Aeolian-Skinner
  by <mewzishn@spec.net>
Re: My mother and that mystery box...
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: Aeolian-Skinner
  by "Prestant16" <Prestant16@aol.com>
RE: A 440.0 Hz [Xposted]
  by "David J Neal" <david@neal.u-net.com>
Re: A 440.0 Hz [Xposted]
  by "ComposerTX" <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Politics
  by "Bill 6827" <Bill6827@aol.com>
A-S Mother Church Boston
  by <dm726@delphi.com>
Re: A-S Mother Church Boston
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: Snipe Ripe Pipe Hype Tripe
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: A-S Mother Church Boston
  by "Prestant16" <Prestant16@aol.com>
Re: A-S Mother Church Boston
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <OrganDok@safari.net>
Re: Aeolian-Skinner
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Problems
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Concert listing
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
RE: Re: Problems
  by "FireAlarmz" <FireAlarmz@aol.com>
WESTMINSTER CATHEDRAL RECITALS
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Aeolian-Skinner
  by "Prestant16" <Prestant16@aol.com>
Re: Vox Limbaugh/Vox Clinton
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Snipe Ripe Pipe Hype Tripe From: Paul Opel <popel@sover.net> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:16:28 -0400   I have these, in the original guitar version. You need copies of those?   Paul Opel > >Three Spanish Ladies >(Marieta, Maria, Adelita) >by: Fransisco Tarrega >   >If anyone can find these things, I would be VERY happy/thankful. > >THANKS!!   http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: Re: FILE NOT FOUND From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:09:09 -0400   Thanks Mac,   I finally found the theatre organ page! - It is very interesting.   Bob Conway.   At 10:22 PM 4/10/98 -0700, you wrote: >Richard Wildhirt wrote: >> >> Is http://theatreorgans.com/index.html not working? I tried accessing >> it today at 11:26 PDT. > >It worked fine for me at 22:20 PDT Fri. The address is correct.   Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> http://www.greenford.demon.co.uk/bob/   Classics Director and Organic DeeJay CFRC-FM 101.9 MHz Radio Queen's University Kingston, Ontario, K7L 3N6 CANADA        
(back) Subject: Silent Film: "Grandma's Boy From: orgnloft@Ma.ultranet.com (Bob and Sally Evans) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:29:57 +0100       Hi List,   Just a reminder that EMCATOS will be presenting "Grandma's Boy" accompanied by Chad Weirick at the 4/18 Mighty Wurlitzer.   Grandma's Boy Knight Auditorium Babson College, Wellesley, MA Saturday, April 18, 1998 8:00 P.M.   TICKETS: At the door or call (617) 244-9447   Bob's Wurlitzer Loft Swansea, MA Home of "Rochelle"-RJ-12, Seven Rank, Residence Style, Wurlitzer Pipe Organ      
(back) Subject: A 440.0 Hz [Xposted] From: ComposerTX <ComposerTX@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:02:41 EDT   does anyone know the Hz for the pitches under A 440, that is: for G natural, and for G sharp need info for a recording project this morning thanks Danny Ray ComposerTX@AOL.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian-Skinner From: mewzishn@spec.net Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:05:08 +0000   Frank Johnson wrote:   > What can anyone tell me about the Aeolian-Skinner organ in the > Christian Science Mother Church in Boston Mass.?   Well, for one thing, it's big. And the room, although enormous, has little if any noticeable reverberation. What else would you like to know?   Ken Sybesma        
(back) Subject: Re: My mother and that mystery box... From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:06:24 -0700   At 22:37 4/10/98 -0500, you wrote: >The tremulant sounds like a car with a rock stuck >in the hub-cap and rattling as the wheel turns...   Sounds like the pneumatic's hinge is worn out. Releathering should fix that. Also make sure the windlines from the trem to the regulator are securely fastened. They can bounce around and strike anything, creating the described noise.     Regards,   Bob        
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian-Skinner From: Prestant16 <Prestant16@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:42:57 EDT   In a message dated 98-04-11 10:05:25 EDT, you write:   << > What can anyone tell me about the Aeolian-Skinner organ in the > Christian Science Mother Church in Boston Mass.? Well, for one thing, it's big. And the room, although enormous, has little if any noticeable reverberation. What else would you like to know? >>   Big is not even the word for it. It has over 200 ranks. I guess that is what you would need for a room that seats over 5,000 (I think it might be more.) The original organ was a Hook and Hastings, much of the original organs case exists, A-S did a very good job re-working the facade. There is a picture of the original organ in the Hook and Hastings book in the back. you can see the Open wood in the background, and notice that there was no division in the cieleing at the time.   -WIliam  
(back) Subject: RE: A 440.0 Hz [Xposted] From: David J Neal <david@neal.u-net.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:45:08 +0100   The frequency ratio for an octave is 1:2. So the equally-tempered scale works out a 1:"twelfth-root-of-2", so   Note Ratio Frequency 0 A 1 220.0000 1 A# 1.059463094 233.0819 2 B 1.122462048 246.9417 3 C 1.189207115 261.6256 4 C# 1.25992105 277.1826 5 D 1.334839854 293.6648 6 D# 1.414213562 311.1270 7 E 1.498307077 329.6276 8 F 1.587401052 349.2282 9 F# 1.681792831 369.9944 10 G 1.781797436 391.9954 11 G# 1.887748625 415.3047 12 A 2 440.0000   FWIW, the formula for the second column of this in an Excel spreadsheet is =POWER(2,A2/12), where the A2 changes down the list to A13.   Best wishes,   David   =================================== David J Neal, Wrexham, Wales, UK david@neal.u-net.com dneal@yale.ac.uk ===================================       On 11 April 1998 15:03, ComposerTX [SMTP:ComposerTX@aol.com] wrote: > does anyone know the Hz for the pitches under A 440, that is: > for G natural, and > for G sharp > need info for a recording project this morning > thanks > Danny Ray > ComposerTX@AOL.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: A 440.0 Hz [Xposted] From: ComposerTX <ComposerTX@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:54:28 EDT   David, I appreciate your speedy reply with the information. I'm in Dallas, and would be happy to return the favor, if needed. Thank you. Danny Ray ComposerTX@AOL.com  
(back) Subject: Politics From: Bill 6827 <Bill6827@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:39:51 EDT   Hey Folks, Let's leave the Politics off this list. I thought it was supposed to be for "pipes" and "music"---silly me. I don't think that the Limbs need to flame the Clints or Vice Versa. Drop it.   Bill Hanson  
(back) Subject: A-S Mother Church Boston From: dm726@delphi.com Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:08:9= +1500   I have a copy of the Aeolian-Skinner recording done on this organ by Ruth Barrett Phelps, the organist at the time of installation.   Yes, she was Larry Phelps' wife. He and GDH designed the organ, the installation was completed in 1952. It is also touted as "the largest church organ in the western hemisphere. The recording was Vol. IX of the A-S King of Instruments Series. The specification is available on the Osiris Archive.   I believe the organ has been rebuilt/restored recently with Phelps again having something to do with it. I live near Boston (for over 25 years) and have never been in the building or heard the organ live. Sad eh?   Dave McPeak Net-Tamer V 1.10 Beta - Test Drive  
(back) Subject: Re: A-S Mother Church Boston From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:32:42 -0400   Hi- There is a nice free tour of the complex which includes the church. I always include it when I take friends into Boston. During the workweek a tour of the publishing plant was available. Both tours could be of interest to older children as well as adults.   Stan Lowkis Ipswich, MA   (No, I never heard the organ either!)  
(back) Subject: Re: Snipe Ripe Pipe Hype Tripe From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:18:04 -0700   TonyIn219 wrote: > > My friend Dessa wanted to offer a few healing words about the recent war on > pipechat.   I took this piece as a humourous, but also helpful, comment on the recent goings-on on PipeChat. Maintained the organic thread, too.   -- Mac Hayes Time is what keeps everything from happening at once.    
(back) Subject: Re: A-S Mother Church Boston From: Prestant16 <Prestant16@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:56:50 EDT   In a message dated 98-04-11 13:06:54 EDT, you write:   << I believe the organ has been rebuilt/restored recently with Phelps again having something to do with it. >>   I know that Foley - Baker from Conneticut takes care of the organ now.   -W  
(back) Subject: Re: A-S Mother Church Boston From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <OrganDok@safari.net> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:12:16 -0400   Dave wrote: > > I have a copy of the Aeolian-Skinner recording done on this organ by > Ruth Barrett Phelps, the organist at the time of installation.   I'd love to have a copy of that recording? In fact, I'd love to have a copy of alllllllll the Aeolian-Skinner recordings. > > He [Phelps] and GDH designed the organ, > > I believe the organ has been rebuilt/restored recently with Phelps again having something to do with it.   I was just told that Phelps is overseeing a monster project of not only re-working the existing stuff, but returning the spec to its original specification, which has been altered numerous times (to my recollection) over the years. What a legacy Phelps is leaving for our generation and the next and the next. Because of his intimate love and knowledge of the project form the beginning, I believe he is one of the few who could pull this off.   I've heard it twice -- both times at Boston Nationals -- George Baker and Catherine Crozier were the organists. I was underwhelmed for sure. I hope the next time I hear it will be a "wow" experience for me!   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea  
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian-Skinner From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:31:51 -0400   Boston MA Christian Science Mother Church -- the Hook and Hastings was a 1906 Opus 2107, 4M. 92 R., then Aeolian-Skinner 1949 Opus 1203, 4M. 224 R., altered 1979 by J. McKown & J.H. Steinkampt, renovated 1996-97, Laurence Phelps, is present curator, I believe. In the rear church (old Church) is a Farrand & Votey 1894 EP, Opus 748, 3 M. 36 R., rebuilt Aeolian-Skinner 1949 Opus 1202, retained 13 ranks and case, now 3 M. 46 R.  
(back) Subject: Problems From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:35:27 -0500   I am the one having trouble with the main organist not letting me get to some reed pipes that need some work, and do some general upkeep. Then, someone privately told me to sit back until a problem occurs and then say "I tried to fix it...but you wouldn't let me."   Well, low and behold, today, after I had to promise the organist I would not go back (or up to the exposed great) before I went in to practice, a problem DID occur. A Bb in the Mixture II ciphered. Of course, it stops with the hit of a key, and fixing ciphers has become like second nature to me, BUT, I kept to my promise. When she stops playing and hears that high "weeeeeeeeeeeeeee", of course, she will ask me what's wrong, because she always turns to me for quick fixes.   Well, listers, and the person that gave me confidence, I plan to wait until it happens, and then say those small irritating words.   Let's just see how Easter Sunday goes...   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com   YET ANOTHER NOTE: In my church, you have to be aggresive and pushy to so much as get a word in edgewise.  
(back) Subject: Concert listing From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:54:53 -0400   Per request of an off-list person:   The Fordham University Concert Choir will perform a free concert at St. Mary's Church (RC), corner Spring St. & Memorial Blvd, Newport RI on Sunday, April 19 at 3pm. The choir will perform a wide variety of choral works. The choir will also provide the music at the 11am Mass that day.   James Cassarino, Organist-Director, St. Mary's Church  
(back) Subject: RE: Re: Problems From: FireAlarmz <FireAlarmz@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:56:29 EDT   In a message dated 98-04-11 15:40:35 EDT, Kevin C. wrote:   << YET ANOTHER NOTE: In my church, you have to be aggresive and pushy to so much as get a word in edgewise.>>   Hi Kevin.   *NOT* just in YOUR church! AND, it applies doubly to church staff!! :) :)   Have a nice Easter- cipher 'n all.   Bill Miller  
(back) Subject: WESTMINSTER CATHEDRAL RECITALS From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:09:48 -0500   This year's celebrity recitals at Westminster Cathedral are to be given by Dame Gillian Weir, who will perform the complete organ works of Olivier Messiaen (1908-1992). Entitled "The Celestial Banquet", these concerts mark the ninetieth anniversary of the French composer's birth. Prior to each recital, there will be a pre-concert talk in the Cathedral Hall (admission free to ticket holders). These concerts are in aid of the Westminster Cathedral Music Foundation.   Tuesday 12th May, 7.30pm Le Nativite du Seigneur Movements from Vingt regards l'Enfant Jesus   Pre-concert, 6.30pm Fr. Adrian Nichols OP, the distinguished Dominican priest describes the state of the Catholic Church in France in the 1920s and 30s, and outlines Messiaen's background in faith and culture.   Tuesday 19th May, 7.30pm Apparition de l'Eglise Eternelle L'Ascension Messe de la Pentecote Missa l'homme arme (Dufay)   Pre-concert, 6.30pm Felix Aprahamian talks about his long association with Olivier Messiaen and his music, and recalls his first discovery of Messiaen's organ music in Paris in the 1930s.   Tuesday 26th May, 7.30pm Meditations sur le Mystere de la Saint Trinite No pre-concert talk.   Tuesday 2nd June, 7.30pm La banquet Celeste Verset pour la fete de la dedicace Diptyque Les corps glorieux   Pre-concert, 6.30pm Julian Anderson, the young composer, lecturer and broadcaster, currently working on a major piece for the BBC Symphony Orchestra, explores Messiaen's fascination with the exotic and the surreal.   Tuesday 9th June, 7.30pm Livre d'Orgue Quatuor pour la fin du temps   Pre-concert, 6.30pm Dame Gillian Weir, in conversation with James O'Donnell, Master of Music at Westminster Cathedral, discusses her approach as a performer to Messiaen's organ music and explores some of the unique challenges of the his repertory.   Tuesday 16th June, 7.30pm Livre du Saint Sacrement Pre-concert: Messiaen scholar Christopher Dingle, currently working on a study of the composer for Cambridge University Press, relates the Livre du Saint Sacrement (performed by Dame Gillian this evening) to his other later works.   Tickets: Available at the door, from the Cathedral Box Office and through TicketMaster (0171-344-4444), including outlets at HMV and Tower Records.   Prices: Individual concerts, L9 (L6 concessions) Season tickets, L39 (L26 concessions).   For further information, please call 0171-798-9057.   Westminster Cathedral, Victoria Street, London SW1 www.westminstercathedral.org.uk Nearest station: Victoria (British Rail and Underground)      
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian-Skinner From: Prestant16 <Prestant16@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:37:27 EDT   In a message dated 98-04-11 15:41:05 EDT, you write:   << Boston MA Christian Science Mother Church -- the Hook and Hastings was a 1906 Opus 2107, 4M. 92 R., then Aeolian-Skinner 1949 Opus 1203, 4M. 224 R., altered 1979 by J. McKown & J.H. Steinkampt, renovated 1996-97, Laurence Phelps, is present curator, I believe. >>   The picture I have of the organ says it's IV/237. I'm sure that anyone interested in the organ can get info, and maybe a picture of it from Foley - Baker, Inc. Their # is 1-800-621-2624.   -W  
(back) Subject: Re: Vox Limbaugh/Vox Clinton From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:28:08 -0400   This was intended as a private post and I am accidentally sending it to the list indavertently because the devile made me do it!   The Vox Clinton would, by necessity of historical accuracy, have to be a large scale flute since the original instrument being imitated was described as "short and fat."   Also remember for the Vox Clinton the pipes would have to be mitred, leaning to the left, I believe (according to Paula Jones). It would, unfortunately, not be able to be a celeste because it apparently "draws" to everything it gets near.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o cremona84000@webtv.net