PipeChat Digest #331 - Tuesday, April 14, 1998 Re: What I think ... by "Vox Celeste" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" Long winded and controvers by "Kevin Cartwright" <email@example.com> Recital, Sunday, NYC by "Jonathan B. Hall" <firstname.lastname@example.org> The Reluctant Theater Organist by "Jonathan B. Hall" <email@example.com> Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" by "Adam and Christine Levin" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Ralston to Play "Miss Buckeye" by <George.Greene@rossnutrition.com> Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" by "OHMER72" <OHMER72@aol.com> Re: What I think ... by "OHMER72" <OHMER72@aol.com> Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" by "David Scribner" <email@example.com> "RELPH ! " by <Fred@ecr.net> Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" Long winded and controvers by "Bob Loesch" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" by <email@example.com> Organ Tuning Tools by "Nelson and Tracy Denton" <ndenton434@waterdown.BigWave.ca> Amatures in organ chambers by "firstname.lastname@example.org" <email@example.com> Re: Amatures in organ chambers by "Bob Loesch" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Hallelujah Chorus by "Bob Luderer" <email@example.com> Jelani at Wichita by "Robert M. Wright" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Amatures in organ chambers by "GRS Co LVR" <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> New Album from Sanfilippo's!! by "Steven Margison" <email@example.com> Double Organ Sound for < $500 & a Question by "TonyIn219" <TonyIn219@aol.com> Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" by "bruce cornely" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
(back) Subject: Re: What I think ... From: "Vox Celeste" <email@example.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:43:16 -0700 Mac Hayes <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: >That's similar to what author Richard Bach said about his book, >"Jonathan Livingston Seagull" -- that HE didn't write it; the words just >flowed THROUGH him into the typewriter. Organ relevance: R. Bach >claims to be descendant of J. S. Bach. What saves us all is that we get no choice in selecting our ancestors - and vice versa. Sincerely, Vox Celeste (who is said to be closely related to Viola Pomposa of Pompano Beach - although I never really believed that - but I'm sure "beach" fit into the description one way or another) Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com
(back) Subject: Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" Long winded and controversial - Yup it's bigmouth talking From: Kevin Cartwright <email@example.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:41:12 -0500 I'll snip all of that. THANKS!! I enjoyed the letter. K.
(back) Subject: Recital, Sunday, NYC From: "Jonathan B. Hall" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:01:07 -0500 Hello-- If anyone is going to be in the NYC area next Sunday, April 19, at 5:15, (besides the usual ten million people) I'll be playing a recital at Saint Thomas Church, Fifth Avenue. Program is as follows: Mendelssohn, Sonata number 5 Durufle, "Soissons" fugue, opus 12 Alain, Three Dances Happy Easter/Passover to all-- Jonathan B. Hall Bloomington, Indiana
(back) Subject: The Reluctant Theater Organist From: "Jonathan B. Hall" <email@example.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:02:26 -0500 Hello, again-- I have just learned that I will be accompanying a silent film for a benefit at my church....! This is a delightful prospect, but daunting--I have never before done this kind of work. To the TO people hereabouts: any input, thoughts, resources or names you might mention to me would be appreciated. Offline replies would be great. Thanks-- Jonathan B. Hall Bloomington, Indiana
(back) Subject: Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" From: Adam and Christine Levin <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:43:13 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Kurt Kehler wrote: > Kevin Cartwright should be commended and encouraged for his interest in pipe > organ maintenance. I bet many organ builders started out the same way. Judging > from Kevin's posts, he will go far in whatever field he chooses. > Now, I have a question. What are the minimum tools required to tune organ > pipes? Where can I buy them? That's an obvious question, and you should be ashamed of yourself for asking it! Clearly, the only necessary tools are a reciprocating saw and a 25 lb. sledge hammer. Anything else is extraneous. -Adam Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online! _/ "You didn't just see two men http://zen.advance.net/~alevin/________/ go through upside down on a broom- <*> __________________________/ stick shouting and screaming at each other, -O / did you?" "Certainly not." "Thank goodness for that. Neither did I."
(back) Subject: Ralston to Play "Miss Buckeye" From: George.Greene@rossnutrition.com Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:41:16 -0400 PipeChatters: I received the following note from Stan Krider (KriderSM@aol.com), President of the Central Ohio Theatre Organ Society (an ATOS chapter)... Press release Contact person: Stan Krider Ph. 614/760-0211 Bob Ralston to perform on the Mighty Wurlitzer theatre organ Bob Ralston, the nationally renown organist of the Lawrence Welk Show, returns for the third time to perform on the Central Ohio Theatre Organ Society's (COTOS) 3 manual, 16 rank Wurlitzer pipe organ located in the Hottenroth Performing Arts Center at Thomas Worthington High School. Ralston will perform on the greater Columbus area's only Wurlitzer still playing in a public venue. A young Ralston can be seen playing the electronic organ on Lawrence Welk reruns broadcast on Saturdays at 7 pm by WOSU-TV, Channel 34. Ralston's live performances include the same type of music Welk presented on his TV shows. COTOS presents theatre organ concerts to raise funds to maintain and rebuild the Wurlitzer theatre organ first installed in the RKO Palace Theatre, Columbus, Ohio. The Wurlitzer has been in its present location for over 20 years where members of COTOS are restoring this distinctly American musical instrument. The Wurlitzer is affectionately nicknamed "Miss Buckeye." TICKET INFORMATION Tickets are $7 general admission ($6 students & senior citizens), and are available at Graves Music Store at Rt. 161 & Karl Road, at the Worthington Arts Council offices at 777 N. High St. in Worthington, by mail from COTOS, 236 New Haven Dr., Urbana, Ohio, 43078 or at the door. Box office opens at 6:30 pm. CONCERT INFORMATION Bob Ralston will perform at the Hottenroth Center for the Performing Arts, Thomas Worthington High School, 300 W. Dublin-Granville Rd., Worthington, Ohio, on Friday, May 15,1998, at 7 pm. Doors open at 6:30. Parking available in the staff parking lot on the north side of the school. The Central Ohio Theatre Organ Society is a non-profit organization under IRS Section 503(C)(3).
(back) Subject: Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" From: OHMER72 <OHMER72@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:13:33 EDT In a message dated 98-04-14 01:35:26 EDT, email@example.com writes: << What are the minimum tools required to tune organ pipes? Where can I buy them? >> I have found the following tools helpful:\ Q-tips - available at all drug stores Flat head screwdriver - available at Handy Dan's hardware stores and other places Ear-plugs - available at all drug stores Handi-wipes (to clean your hands before and after handling pipes) - Winn Dixie has the cheapest ones... Although I jest, tuning with the screwdriver is possible if you don't have the magic wand..... where DO you get the tuning rod? Can the lowly organist purchase one through the supply house or must one be a member of apoba? Inquiring organists want to know. s.o.
(back) Subject: Re: What I think ... From: OHMER72 <OHMER72@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:19:16 EDT In a message dated 98-04-14 03:16:42 EDT, firstname.lastname@example.org writes: << Organ relevance: R. Bach claims to be descendant of J. S. Bach. >> Methinks he must believe he's a reincarnated....from what I've read, ALL of Bach's descendants are long gone, no one remains. Just a memory. Only organists who can trace their "teaching line" back to Bach. Richard, so far as I know, didn't study organ, did he?
(back) Subject: Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" From: David Scribner <email@example.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:29:04 -0500 At 10:13 AM -0400 4/14/98, OHMER72 wrote: [SNIP] >Although I jest, tuning with the screwdriver is possible if you don't have the >magic wand..... where DO you get the tuning rod? Can the lowly organist >purchase one through the supply house or must one be a member of apoba? >Inquiring organists want to know. > Tuning Knives can be purchased thru Organ Supply Industries. They come in a couple of different lengths and weights and run anywhere from about $30 to about $75. You can check their web site at: http://www.organsupply.com/ David
(back) Subject: "RELPH ! " From: Fred@ecr.net Date: 14 Apr 1998 11:22:02 EDT Morning greetings to all. HELP ! I am still trying to locate a copy of music, re: "BABY FACE". The info is as follows; Baby Face By Davis & Akst Arranged for Organ by HENRY B. MURTAGH Rivoli Theatre, New York City Publisher;Jerome H. Remick & Co. New York & Detroit Copyright 1926 After checking with my Music Guru this morning, I did find that Warner Bros., owns the Remick Copyrights. But they don't have any of the Old, old music in file or even a micro-copy of it. Can any of you help me to locate a copy of this? Do any of you know a true original THEATRE ORGANIST, who just might possibly have a copy of this in there music some where ? Please ask around and let me know. E-mail me privately at - firstname.lastname@example.org . Hope some one from either list can help or point me to some one who can get me a copy. Thanks, Fred =============================================================== (Dr.) Fred Lewis Organist/Assist. Choral & Handbell Director Saint John's Lutheran Church New Washington, Ohio 44854 Home Address: 61 Zent Avenue Fredericktown, Ohio 43019-1031 Home Phone & Fax ( it switches ) 1-740-694-0046 E-mail:email@example.com ===============================================================
(back) Subject: Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" Long winded and controversial - Yup it's bigmouth talking From: Bob Loesch <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:41:22 -0700 At 02:01 4/14/98 -0400, you wrote: >"There's a sucker born every minute" >P.T. Barnum AND "Never give a sucker an even break"! W. C. Fields Great post! (But I doubt that it will change some peoples' opinions) Regards, Bob
(back) Subject: Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" From: email@example.com Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:17:47 +0000 OHMER72 wrote: > where DO you get the tuning rod? Can the lowly organist > purchase one through the supply house or must one be a member of apoba? > Inquiring organists want to know. Isn't that part of the apoba graduation ceremony? You get your choice of English tin, zinc, 98% lead or flamed copper, I believe. Ken Sybesma
(back) Subject: Organ Tuning Tools From: Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton434@waterdown.BigWave.ca> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:22:31 -0400 At 10:13 AM 4/14/1998 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-04-14 01:35:26 EDT, firstname.lastname@example.org writes: > ><< What are the minimum tools required to tune organ > pipes? Where can I buy them? >> >I have found the following tools helpful:\ > >Q-tips - available at all drug stores >Flat head screwdriver - available at Handy Dan's hardware stores and other >places >Ear-plugs - available at all drug stores >Handi-wipes (to clean your hands before and after handling pipes) - Winn Dixie >has the cheapest ones... > >Although I jest, tuning with the screwdriver is possible if you don't have the >magic wand..... where DO you get the tuning rod? Can the lowly organist >purchase one through the supply house or must one be a member of apoba? >Inquiring organists want to know. As a 4th or 5th generation organ tuner/builder I would suggest adding the following tools. Knee pads for those long hours kneeling while tuning mixtures. a Pillow for those times when you get to sit down ( rare) Running shoes for a better grip on slippery walkboards. A good "trouble light" - so you can see what your tuning. A tuning cone. ( a flared metal or wooden or ivory tool for tuning cone tuned pipes). Available from most quality organ supply houses. A pair of long nose pliers for removing shallots from reeds so you can clean the gunk out of them. 600+ grade Sandpaper ( waterpaper) or finer for removing build ups of grunge from reed shallots and tines. (Easy does it here folks) A large denomination dollar bill for cleaning reeds ( move reed wire to the top so you won't damage the tine while cleaning it). Additional screwdrivers & pliers for removing organ parts that need cleaning or repair. A magnet on a string for picking up your tools when they fall down holes. A knife for any other purposes not filled by above tools. A flexible retractable claw tool for pulling out pencils from under pedalboards ( available in cheapy dime stores). Glue for minor repairs Duct tape for those big repairs. Masking tape for those repairs that are supposed to last a lifetime. Leather and Felt for repairs to fix things that duct tape won't hold on. A Soldering Iron for making repairs to bent pipes and loose wires. Shoe laces for tying up loose pipes Dentist tools and Doctors scalpels and clamps etc. are good for voicing pipes and making tiny repairs. Wrenches for blower work. A 25 lb sledge hammer for tuning those 32' Bourdons A 16 ounce hammer for tuning everything else. and for making sure things are nailed up tight. A large box of nails ( don't bother using screws they just tempt fools into thinking you can take things apart to fix 'em) 20+ tool boxes loaded with extra tools parts and supplies. A "Gopher" to carry everything for you, and to hold keys while you tune. A large Van to carry everything. A 4,000 square foot workshop filled full of $200,000.00 worth of power tools and equipment for those things that you can't fix on the job. The phone number of somebody who has all of the above and knows how to use them. All of the above are the basic tools for organ builders. ( seriously I've seen all of them used at one time or another and not always for the right purpose) A tuning wand is the easiest thing to make yourself. Just take a piece of scrap metal about 12 to 24" long and 1/2" to 3/4" wide and 1/8" thick and file the sides flat so you can get a good grip on a tuning slide. ( a slight burr like on a woodworkers scraper is better) Drill a hole in one end so you can hook reed tuning wires in impossible spots and still tune them. Bend one end of the wand slightly crooked to reach around corners. Hold the wand loosely in your hand like you would a spoon or a pen. ( it doesn't matter much ) and tap away. UP to flatten a pipe and DOWN to sharpen the pipe. Reeds are just the same as flue pipes. After tuning 200,000 pipes you will find it gets easy to tune pipework. Nelson E. Denton R. A. Denton and Son Pipe Organ Builders Hamilton Ontario Canada http://www.freeyellow.com/members/radentonson
(back) Subject: Amatures in organ chambers From: "email@example.com" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 98 12:13:06 -0600 Greetings: I have been following the discussions of organists in organ chambers "fixing" or "fiddling" with the instrument, making "minor repairs". If the organist feels confident and has permission of the maintenance person of the instrument small, minor repairs should be allowed. BUT, every organist should know his/her limitations and STOP before doing damage to the instrument. When I was studying for my undergraduate degree in the 1960's I had the opportunity to work on a maintenance crew for a rather large pipe organ manufacturer in southern Illinois. I gained moderate skills in tuning & regulation. I also learned that a small amount of knowledge is DANGEROUS. I have, and always will, leave delicate tuning and reed regulations to the experts....fortunately, we have one in William Hansen from Milwaukee. If a pipe ciphers, gently lift the pipe and place a small piece of paper between the toe & the chest. If a reed goes sour, this can usually be cleaned & tuned WITH permission of the organ maintenance person. In other words....know your limitations. Don't go in the chambers as an expert in voicing & regulation and ruin a good rank of pipes. Leave work such as this to someone that is trained in this area. As far as giving organ tours....If these is room OK, but often organs are in crammed chambers. These are not ment for a general organ crawl. But, isn't it fun to go into a large Austin chest when someone is playing and watch all the trackers! Sincerely, Tom Gregory p.s. don't forget to lubricate the old blowers every few months! Although these motors are often not energy efficient,they will go forever with minor maintenance.
(back) Subject: Re: Amatures in organ chambers From: Bob Loesch <email@example.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:13:35 -0700 At 12:13 4/14/98 -0600, you wrote: >p.s. don't forget to lubricate the old blowers every few months! >Although these motors are often not energy efficient,they will go forever >with minor maintenance. You're right about running forever! However, many of the older Century and Woods single-phase motors are more energy efficient than the new ones. Regards, Bob
(back) Subject: Re: Hallelujah Chorus From: Bob Luderer <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:09:11 -0400 > Beau, > My advice to you would be to take the piano accompaniment with the vocal > parts and arrange your own version. That way you can accent those > parts which you want to, it will be technically within your limits, and > you will gain great experience from it. Or you could do what I did, Listen to the thing a bunch of times, get an orchestral score, and create a MIDI accompaniment of the thing. You can put in your accelerandos, crescendos etc etc, and be entirely free to conduct without worrying about playing the notes......All you need is a fast computer and a fairly decent keyboard. (we get away with a casio ctk750, not my preference, but already paid for!) Bobby
(back) Subject: Jelani at Wichita From: "Robert M. Wright" <email@example.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:28:51 -0500 The stars shone brightly over the Kansas Plains Saturday night as Jelani Eddington seated himself at the console of the Wichita Paramount Wurlitzer(4/39). This young genius illuminated the gathered enthusiasts as he began his program. Jelani, known as "that kid from Indiana" was brilliant. Currently studying at Yale Law school, Jelani finds time for his music, and displays such passion for the music. He played for over two hours and included Gershwin, Cole Porter, Berlin as well as many others. His "Porgy and Bess" Medley and "Oklahoma" Medley were outstanding. Mr. Eddington excited the gathering with the use of traditional registrations as well as the blending of unique registrations, using the full capacity of the computer controlled relay system. His modulations were creative and unmatched. They served as seamless transitions and still brought one back to the common thread of the piece. He closed with Listz=92s "Hungarian Rhapsody #2". This was truly an enchanting evening. This Wurlitzer(4/39) that was originally installed at the Paramount Theatre on Broadway at Times Square in New York City never sounded better. I originally heard the instrument in 1955 at the Paramount and the placement of the chambers at Century II gives the instrument a fuller richer sound than I remember from hearing it in NYC at the ripe old age of 15. WTO is in the process of doing some major reworking of the instrument three of the five chamber have been rebuilt since 1991 and are complete. The last two chambers are in process and will be completed in the near future. I have heard rumors since October that Century II had asked that the organ be removed and move to a different location. I was able to visit with Michael Coup, President WTO and he clued me in on the real scoop.=20 The Organ is only available when there is no other event scheduled at Century II. As Century II consists of three halls in one architectural mass, the power of the Organ bleeds over into the other halls causing compatibility problems with other events. This limits WTO to a schedule of only three Organ concerts a season when the other halls are not in use. And although the instrument is used during the Wichita River festival in May, many would like to have a concert season of six to eight concerts, with access to the instrument for other purposes. As the current search for an appropriate home for the Organ has not yielded results, due to the enormity of chamber space needed for the instrument, the instrument will remain in Century II for the foreseeable future. The Miller Organ(3/19 Wurlitzer) was introduced during the "Paramount Week-end" in October/November of 1997. The WTO has plans for an ongoing series of concerts and recitals as I understand. Tickets are limited to seventy five according to Michael Coup. They can be contacted through WTO for information. WTO can be contacted at: Wichita Theatre Organ 6141 Fairfield Road Wichita, Kansas 67204 E-Mail: CoupMK@aol.com Ask about the Cook Book!!! Thanks to Mike and Karen Coup with their help doing this review, and Stan Guy for corrections. Robert M. Wright firstname.lastname@example.org AKA TexBob
(back) Subject: Re: Amatures in organ chambers From: GRS Co LVR <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:03:24 EDT Right you are Bob! I will go to any ends to repair an old Century Repulsion Start Induction Run motor on a blower. They are energy efficient indeed! And the slinger ring oiling system for the motor armature cannot be beat,,,it works,,under most all temperatures encountered,,,just runs around slower when the oil is thick,,,but,,,still lubricates well!. A whole lot of my service calls on the older blowers are caused by well meaning people either trying to keep the oil cups full to the brim at every moment,,,including when the level has been dropped when running,,,AND, overgreasing the thrust bearing (Spencer). and a gummed up necklace inside that armature (rotor) is No fun. Follow the manufacturers recommendations is my eternal cry,,,,,or contact Spencer,,,they will be glad to help with maintenance on the older equipment in my experience. Over lubrication has ruined more motors than under lubrication! Roc
(back) Subject: New Album from Sanfilippo's!! From: Steven Margison <email@example.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:48:48 -0500 I'm sitting here listening to the latest offering from the Mighty Sanfilippo 5/80 Wurlitzer and, as usual, it is overwhelming. The album features Lyn Larsen, Simon Gledhill, Tom Hazleton, Ron Rhode, Walt Strony, and Carlo Curly! And this album comes right on the heels of Simon's album from Sanfilippo's just a few weeks ago. It's nice to see two such quality offerings on this magnificent instrument in such a short space of time. MORE -- MORE!!!!!!! Ridgeway isn't busy enough <grin>...... The album is called "Simple Gifts" and all proceeds go to charity (Hopeful Heart Foundation, of course). A sampling of the selections: "Who" - Rhode "Two Cigarettes in the Dark" - Gledhill "Simple Gifts" - Hazleton playing the Virgil Fox arrangement "Nessun Dorma" - Strony "Ride of the Valkyries" - Curley (who else???) featuring the famous Bugle Battaglia stop "Fleurette" - Larsen 18 cuts in all, with a very interesting mix of T.O., classical, and light classical. Well, how do you comment on 6 of the greatest playing on THE greatest? Words will not do it. You MUST add this recording to your collection -- and that goes for you church organists as well! The cost is $19.95 (US shipping) from: Musical Contrasts P.O. Box 16786 Phoenix, AZ, 85011 Tell 'em "Steve sent me". Won't help, but tell 'em anyway <grin>... |===================== Steve Margison =====================| |=== Staff Organist, Tivoli Theatre, Downers Grove, IL ===| |Organs, Theatres, Ham Radio, Lots of things at my WebSite:| |==== http://www.ameritech.net/users/mgcfngrs/home.htm ====|
(back) Subject: Double Organ Sound for < $500 & a Question From: TonyIn219 <TonyIn219@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:36:35 EDT I just wanted to let everyone know that I figured out a way to make my house with its 7-foot ceilings and bad floor plan sound like a real concert hall. My Lowrey is HUGE (55-3/16" high, 32-1/4" deep [not including pedalboard] and 53-3/4" wide. My house is a 925 square foot postwar ranch. 300 square feet of the house is a huge master bedroom, so it doubles as an organ hall. But in order to be able to get past my organ to my bed, I had to jam the left side of the organ against a wall, which effectively cut off the sound from the built- in 10" Leslie. Not wanting to spend $1,000 on a external Leslie, I came up with a very viable solution: I fished a tissue-wrapped Shure noise-cancelling microphone down next to the side speaker port (where the Leslie sound comes from), and ran a line through the attic to my Roland KC500 (100 watts or so on some HUGE, ported speakers) amplifier at the other end of the house. The amp has adjustable reverb, which I turned "on" but at a very low level. Now when I hit "Tibias to Leslie" or "Strings to Leslie" or "Main to Leslie" or "Celeste" a rich, scintillating sound that almost sounds like a second console (or a second pipe chamber I tell myself] emanates from my dining room, wafts through the living room and becomes an aural delight as it floats into my bedroom -- stimulating me from behind. The amplifier is about $450, and the mike is about $40. Both are available at your local guitar/keyboard place. It's only 24" tall, is covered in black carpet, (can be hidden under a table or behind a chair) is mounted on four casters for easy portability and has multiple adjustable inputs and stereo output. Just a thought for all you organ lovers who want more sound for less $$. ALSO, I have a question: When friends come over, they don't always know I play the organ. When they see my gigantic console they invariably take a step back and look at me, then at the organ, then back at me, like it doesn't fit with my motorcycle, my pickup truck, my long-hair and my blue-collar existence. I've been thinking of mounting a videocamera somewhere just to catch their reactions. How do people react when they come to your house and see your organ for the first time??? Any funny anecdotes? John Carrington Chesterton Indiana
(back) Subject: Re: What I think of "Organists and Chambers" From: firstname.lastname@example.org (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:01:31 -0400 Kurt, Depending upon the type of tuning you need to do (slides, scrolls, or cone). Organ Supply Industries in Erie PA, or the Tracker Tool Company (can't remember the address and, geez I'm sounding like a broken record) my books are at the church. You will probably get more particular advice from tuners (unless they say to keep your butt out of THEIR organs), or you could check with your own tuner and get instructions at the same time. When I started, the tuner ordered my set of "brasses" for cone tuning, and then showed me how to use them. I think it's great fun except, of course, for mixtures! bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o email@example.com