PipeChat Digest #350 - Wednesday, April 29, 1998
 
Re: May the Lord pickle you....
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: More Lew Williams memories
  by <danbel@earthlink.net>
Re: Anglican Music Forum   was: Content!
  by "SCoonrod" <SCoonrod@aol.com>
Re: May the Lord pickle you....
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: May the Lord pickle you....
  by "Peggy C. Bie" <peggyb@gate.net>
Blowers/parts for sale
  by "list" <list@cluff.net>
Re: More Lew Williams memories
  by "Ian B. McLean" <solotibia@enternet.com.au>
RE: Content!
  by "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com>
Re: More Lew Williams memories
  by <danbel@earthlink.net>
Re: Talking about Music & the Arts
  by <George.Greene@rossnutrition.com>
Re: More Lew Williams memories
  by "Ian B. McLean" <solotibia@enternet.com.au>
Re: List Content
  by "Vernon Moeller" <vernonm@ccsi.com>
Re: May the Lord pickle you....
  by "stephen ohmer" <sohmer@juno.com>
Re: More Lew Williams memories
  by "stephen ohmer" <sohmer@juno.com>
Re: More Lew Williams memories
  by <danbel@earthlink.net>
Finally In!!! Rialto Pipe Extravaganza CD
  by "TonyIn219" <TonyIn219@aol.com>
Re: R. Duerr, Organ Recital, Cadet Chapel, West Point, NY - 10 May
  by "Vincent" <vlefevere@unicall.be>
Re: Finally In!!! Rialto Pipe Extravaganza CD
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: May the Lord pickle you....
  by "ComposerTX" <ComposerTX@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: May the Lord pickle you.... From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:12:14 -0700   John L. Speller wrote: > ... Please, please, can't we save ourselves all this > anguish and keep the titles in their original language?   Yes, PLEASE, don't translate titles from the original. It can be a bear trying to find a Bach chorale by the English title, when the catalog lists it in German only (or vice versa). I ran into that problem trying to match a list of English titles with the BWVs on http://www.jsbach.org/bwvs600.html (actually this is a terrible example. Matching words is easy; getting the "sense" of a word is not.)   Not to mention how hard it is to find "Cologne" or "Naples" or "Vienna" on a Michelin map of Europe. (How did French towns avoid the severe mangling done to German and Italian place-names?)     -- Mac Hayes mach37@ptw.com Better a brick airplane than a brick boat.    
(back) Subject: Re: More Lew Williams memories From: danbel@earthlink.net Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:13:16 -0400   At 11:27 PM 4/28/98 -0700, you wrote: >I remember several of his arrangements: >A very realistic rendition of "Rhapsody in Blue", where he manages to >somehow play the solo part and most of the orchestration...! >Jonathan Orwig   Ditto this one!!! IMHO, Lew does the MOST complete and comsequently enjoyable version of the Rhapsody in Blue "I" have EVER heard done on theatre organ---and LIVE--without electronic assistance from sequencers, etc.   djb    
(back) Subject: Re: Anglican Music Forum was: Content! From: SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:13:39 EDT   Please advise how to get to this forum, those of you who are using it. I am very interested.   Thanks,   RandyT  
(back) Subject: Re: May the Lord pickle you.... From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:23:20 -0400   Just because it's difficult findings a Bach chorale with an English title IN A CATALOG (for Pete's sake!) is hardly a reason not to translate title into the vernacular. Whom is the program printed FOR? Is the recital played as an advertisement for published music, or is it for the person who wants to enjoy organ music and maybe learn a little about the music. I think it is a bit pompous and pretentious to greet a recital goer with a piece of paper full of foreign titles. What good is it if they can't read it and understand it? If an organist want to purchase the composition, then he/she/they should go to the recitalist, say how much the piece was enjoyed, and then ask for the proper title. That's an inconvenience for maybe two or three organists out of the, what, hundred people who attended your recital!   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: May the Lord pickle you.... From: "Peggy C. Bie" <peggyb@gate.net> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:38:48 -0400   Re: Using foreign titles   Sometimes foreign titles make an impression on the congregation. I remember eons ago (the 1950's) when a high school choir member used to ask me "Miss Bie, Would you please play "Wash it Off" for the prelude next Sunday. I just love that piece! (Wachet auf!) I'm still giggling.   "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." -Anais Nin http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/1095  
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(back) Subject: Re: More Lew Williams memories From: "Ian B. McLean" <solotibia@enternet.com.au> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:39:51 +1000   danbel@earthlink.net wrote: > > At 11:27 PM 4/28/98 -0700, you wrote: > >I remember several of his arrangements: > >A very realistic rendition of "Rhapsody in Blue", where he manages to > >somehow play the solo part and most of the orchestration...! > >Jonathan Orwig > > Ditto this one!!! IMHO, Lew does the MOST complete and comsequently > enjoyable version of the Rhapsody in Blue "I" have EVER heard done on > theatre organ---and LIVE--without electronic assistance from > sequencers, > etc.   To my knowledge he is the ONLY one who can make this work in such a way. And it is an impressive arrangement and a technical tour de force.   However, the a question remains, what next? He has been playing this now for many years. Where are the new transcriptions and arrangements of equal, or greater impact? I have his LP, "Contrasts", of his original performance of Rhapsody in Blue on the Bill Brown pizza parlours in Phoenix, and Mesa. What has happened since then?   This LP includes, String of Pearls, In the Mood, and, As Time Goes By. These remain key parts of the Lew Williams programme of today. I understand that this LP was made in the early 80's. I don't know of other major theatre organists that continue to use such old programme material, regardless of how successful they were (or even remain so). From my observation they, Tony Fenelon, Lyn Larsen, Simon Gledhill, Walter Strojny, Jonas Nordwall, Tom Hazleton, etc., have developed their skills way behind in what they achieved so many years before. And, they have done so evenly.   Even if these organists have 'trademark' arrangements that they must perform at each concert, they usually only make up a small part of the overall concert.       Ian McLean  
(back) Subject: RE: Content! From: "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:52:55 -0700   Kurt wrote: > As an organist who must frequently play Contemporary Catholic > Music on organ, I value the wisdom and expertise of Pipechatters > regarding > CCM, more than I value the ideas of those intent on destroying the > tradition > I seek to preserve. This tradition includes new music, be it CCM, Naji > Hakim > or William Bolcom. CCMer's have redefined the word "contemporary" to > exclude > all new music but their own. > I, for one, am an organist who believes that organ and CCM can coexist. I am not in favor of one over the other. They both have their place in the worship life of any thriving congregation.   > So, if not Pipechat, where else could I find a reasoned debate on CCM, > > especially where it concerns the organ? > This is the key: "where it concerns the organ." If the discussions were to purport CCM over the organ, that would be a problem. But I think the advantage of this list--and Dr. Pete may disagree with me--is that we can collect our respective views and experiences to help each other in this day and age where organists feel threatened and organs are being scrapped to make room for guitars, drums, and synthesizers.   I ask the question, what can we do to create a balance, to propagate both the traditional and the contemporary, without sacrificing either? Both have merit. One has a tried and true history, while the other has mass appeal. It seems to me that can develop guidelines and suggestions to make both of these idioms viable. This is like a marriage--different, but with the same purpose, that of helping people worship God.   > Also, thanks to Dr. Pocock for making this wonderful forum available. > Ditto here.  
(back) Subject: Re: More Lew Williams memories From: danbel@earthlink.net Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:07:24 -0400   Ian B. McLean wrote: > I don't know of > other major theatre organists that continue to use such old programme > material, regardless of how successful they were (or even remain so). > Even if these organists have 'trademark' arrangements that they must > perform at each concert, they usually only make up a small part of the > overall concert.   While this is a valid way of thinking --to a point--most theatre organists who play a good many concerts DO use a percentage of material they have been doing for a while. This is due (in MY experience) to many factors -- the least of which is that the audience who comes to hear these artists repeatedly ASK for this material. Material recorded by an artist or used in concert over a period of years has become popular with the followers of a particular artist. One of Lew's most durable (and audience pleasing) pieces is the Rhapsody in Blue. There are tunes that I have been playing for 30 years that I STILL am requested to play -- and DO play. I play them happily because it means that the audience has been "with me" on other occasions and remembers the performance or recording positively.   This is NOT a bad thing!!! :)   True that these pieces usually make up a small part of the program. I will say that I have never been to a Lew Williams performance that I did not hear him play more than one selection that I had never heard him do before. That is personal experience over a period of 25+ years in the case of Lew.   I am not trying to change anyone's way of thinking or tell them what they should or should not expect from any given artist. I have long recognized this to be a futile effort in some cases! :) I am just offering possibilities for the situations being discussed!   Dan  
(back) Subject: Re: Talking about Music & the Arts From: George.Greene@rossnutrition.com Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:57:52 -0400   SET FLAME THROWERS ON "STUN," PLEASE...     Vernon Moeller wrote: > ... With the exception of rap and cry-in-your-beer C&W (what odd > bedfellows!), I can listen to any kind of music for a little while, at > least, before I change radio stations.     I agree with Vernon, but I would fill in the second blank with "Heavy Metal" instead of C&W. I thoroughly enjoy listening to C&W occasionally; after all, where else can you get those great lyrics like "Prop me up beside the jukebox if I die; Lord I want to go to heaven, but I don't want to go tonight" and "He's the Next Ex of My Old Used-to-Be"?   Unfortunately, I don't have a clue as to how to make this post "organic"; somehow I just can't picture these songs being played on an A-S (Moeller, Schantz, etc., or a 77-stop tracker monster, Bruce), although I expect that we could probably find appropriate DRAWBAR settings for them...   Hammond-o-philes: Please don't take offense at the last comment; I'm just noting the versatility of your beloved instrument. I "cut my teeth" on a C-3 and they still hold a special place in my heart.     42 8847 556 ("Live long and prosper") everyone! (No, this probably isn't a good registration for C&W, but everyone else has been signing off with their favorite drawbar settings lately, so I thought I'd get in the act!)       George Greene (George.Greene@RossNutrition.com)    
(back) Subject: Re: More Lew Williams memories From: "Ian B. McLean" <solotibia@enternet.com.au> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:23:04 +1000   danbel@earthlink.net wrote:   > Material recorded > by an artist or used in concert over a period of years has become > popular with the followers of a particular artist. One of Lew's most > durable (and audience pleasing) pieces is the Rhapsody in Blue. There > are tunes that I have been playing for 30 years that I STILL am > requested to play -- and DO play. I play them happily because it means > that the audience has been "with me" on other occasions and remembers > the performance or recording positively. > > This is NOT a bad thing!!! :)   I certainly don't think that it is either. However, this wasn't what occurred nor what I was attempting to communicate. Lew actually had a "requests" session at this concert, this was AFTER the numbers from the 80's were included in the non request component of the programme. The other point made in my initial comments was that although these old arrangements were played exceptionally well, their contrast with 'other', newer numbers (for a Lew William programme) that were often (but not all) played indifferently is what caused my non TPO aficionados who attended (at my invitation) such grief. This is the problem. What Lew did so well was based almost entirely on these older efforts of his. The newer stuff (mostly) simply wasn't in the same class. Why?     > I am not trying to change anyone's way of thinking or tell them what > they should or should not expect from any given artist. I have long > recognized this to be a futile effort in some cases! :) I am just > offering possibilities for the situations being discussed!   Agreed! Dan's "possibilities" based on what has been written so far, are more than reasonable prognostications.   I should also mention that Lew received from the vast majority of this concert, MANY encores. Although, I got the impression that Lew was getting heartily sick of the compere standing out there pushing the audience to bring him back, and back, and back.........rather took the edge off the concert.   Ian McLean  
(back) Subject: Re: List Content From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:33:42 -0500   Hello, Folks!   I feel somewhat obligated to interject my two cents' worth to this worthy topic mainly because I submitted an article which I thought to be appropriate and of general interest to this forum; my article dealt with my "initiation" into CCM, and I concluded (a bit forcefully, I hope) that if you can't beat 'em, then maybe you could join them on your own terms. CCM has its faults, but perhaps we can work together to find a middle ground.   In my present position as organist for a large UMC, my areas of expertise and my personal preferences will always focus on traditional worship, *but* I can see how the CCM crowd has helped people at my church, and CCM's supporters have greatly assisted in the success of this church. AAMOF, many families attend church and Sunday School in a split fashion at Bethany: the adults go to Sunday School at 9:30 and to traditional worship at 11:00, while their teenagers go to CCM service at 9:30 and Sunday School at 11:00. There's something for everybody. It's a win-win situation, if you ask me. Moreover, the senior pastor reports that several people have come to him saying that they hadn't attended church in years, but were curious about what their kids were saying about Bethany and its fun service at 9:30, so they went to a few of those, and then they tried the traditional service, and they were hooked.   Excuse me for wandering a bit - the real reason for this letter is to discuss an important point. When this list was founded, I thought it was to serve as a refuge from "the other list" for those people who felt that what was needed was a less formal forum for organists, organ builders and technicians, and organ aficionados. I thought PipeChat was formed in order to provide these people with a place where they could discuss musical matters, as well as topics of interest to the members, even if those topics were not exclusively limited to "matters organic." So, if I wanted to, I could feel perfectly comfortable and unthreatened if I wanted to ask a question like,   "Since office politics plays a major role in the operation of many businesses and governmental agencies, what stance should organists take to ensure their longevity at their current churches when being confronted by office politics?"   This question has absolutely nothing to do with organs, but it might be a very valid point of discussion for organists who have to address many issues in order to keep their jobs, and without whom organs are merely interesting pieces of functional furniture, sort of like TV's or VCR's which can look nice, and their internals can be models of efficiency, but without viewers these devices are not really serving a practical purpose.   So, Pete, while I applaud the way you have run this list so far, with few firefights in my memory, and a very congenial attitude prevailing among the membership, why not open the scope of this group a little by allowing such discussions to take place, at least on a short-term basis. By "short-term" I mean to permit such discussions, provided they stick to the topic and don't overrun your other topics - after all, I can see why you'd want to continue discussions of organs, recitals, minor repair hints for organists, and the like. Such discussions perform a very valuable service to the rest of us, even if we don't actively participate in all of them. Perhaps you could curtail these topics after a few days by saying something like, "This topic has run its course - could we please turn to other matters?"   OTOH, I seem to recall several messages from you (and Shirley, too) about how the list cannot survive without discussions, so why would you want to limit the list in this way?   I realize that this list is not a democracy - after all, Pete is the major player here, with all the responsibilities and not a whole lot of the fun. So I can see where he might prefer to limit the scope of the list to what he's interested in. But I think the list may have grown beyond its original purposes, and I don't think it is going to be easy to reduce the size of the list's scope without hurting a lot of feelings and possibly losing members. I don't want to drop out of PipeChat, and I don't think I am alone in this regard. In the words of Mrs Slocomb, "I am unanimous in this..." But if push comes to shove, I'll leave quietly.   If anybody can come up with reasonable objections to my arguments, I'd like to hear from them, either privately or on the list.   Regards, \/\/\    
(back) Subject: Re: May the Lord pickle you.... From: sohmer@juno.com (stephen ohmer) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:25:25 -0400     On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:12:14 -0700 Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> writes: >John L. Speller wrote: >> ... Please, please, can't we save ourselves all this >> anguish and keep the titles in their original language? > >Yes, PLEASE, don't translate titles from the original. It can be a >bear. Matching words is easy; getting >the "sense" of a word is not.) >   Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me, people. Sooooooooo sooooorrrrrrrrrrrry that I've offended you. I hope that you all do not fall off your self inflicted pedestals as you reach your keyboards.   When typing on this list, I shall, when I feel like it, translate. If I make a mistake, then those of you who are so cottonpicking smarter than I could at least KINDLY PRIVATELY E-MAIL ME with the correction.   And we wonder why the organ doesn't have a great following? Look at the attitude of a few people over translating a title. Get real, folks. Most people don't go around flaunting their prowess in knowing the meaning of German titles all the time. Sometimes there are people - yeah, even on THIS list - who might appreciate seeing the title in English.   Hoi poloi? Bach was a common man, not a member of the aristocracy; although he knew he was a child of God, and that put him way up there.   Stephen Ohmer a real dumb (and probably not a very good organist, either) person in Charlottesville, VA - but I have been in my field for more than 30 years - and lived to tell about it.   PS - there are more than one meaning in the dictionary for the word apparition. Not all meanings refer to "ghost"   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: More Lew Williams memories From: sohmer@juno.com (stephen ohmer) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:17:07 -0400     On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 23:27:41 -0700 giwro@juno.com (Jonathan M Orwig) writes: >I remember several of his arrangements: > >"It's a Small World" (in various styles - polka, march, etc!) >"Amazing Grace" (with a bagpipe verse - eerie how realistic it sounds) >Armed Forces medley, ending with a moving arrangement of "Eternal >Father Strong to Save" - always left a few of us swallowing the lump >in the throat or wiping our eyes.... >A very realistic rendition of "Rhapsody in Blue", where he manages to >somehow play the solo part and most of the orchestration...! >     All this talk about his using the same old music.... it works for him. I thought he got out of music for a few years to do some computer study or something, but am thrilled that he returned to the field. It would be nice to hear him play something new. When I asked him about that at Phoenix back in the late 80's, he said that most of what kids were asking for was mostly rhythmic and not melodic, so it didn't transfer well to the organ. I see his point. The kids especially have lost sight of tune and melody. A great loss for them, since they lose out on beauty, too.   steve >**************** >Jonathan Orwig >Minister of Music - Bethany Church, Redlands, CA >for new Organ, Keyboard & Choral Music visit >Evensong Music at: http://members.aol.com/Evnsong/pgone.html >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get >completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno >at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A >discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : >http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >mailto:requests@pipechat.org   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: More Lew Williams memories From: danbel@earthlink.net Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:49:34 -0400   >When I asked him about that at >Phoenix back in the late 80's, he said that most of what kids were asking >for was mostly rhythmic and not melodic, so it didn't transfer well to >the organ. I see his point.   Having spent my period of time working in this type of venue I can say with undoubted certainty that this is a VERY correct statement.   The other point happens when the owners/managers of this type of venue choose to "dictate" that the organist WILL play NEW music on the theatre organ. I doubt seriously that this is the case in Phoenix, but it certainly has been in other parts of the country at certain venues. I always found it incredibly difficult -- and most of the time impossible -- to translate some of this NEW music to the TO---mainly because it rarely consists of more than a rhythm track and 2-3 chords. Difficult to manage on TO when the "music" relys on vocals and a complicated (although sometimes interesting) rhythm track.   >The kids especially have lost sight of tune >and melody. A great loss for them, since they lose out on beauty, too.   Could not agree more!!!! :)   Dan    
(back) Subject: Finally In!!! Rialto Pipe Extravaganza CD From: TonyIn219 <TonyIn219@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:43:26 EDT   Finally, my CD from last year's Pipe Organ Extravaganza in Joliet arrived= in=0Amy mailbox, about 6 months after the concert. I listened to it this= smorning=0Aas I was getting ready for work.   Boy I don't know WHY Jelani is in law school at Yale after listening to t= hat=0Arenditition of Rhapsody in Blue! Heck, I guess I'd go to Yale if I = got=0Aaccepted. Who wouldn't?   Any, the Rialto CD is good =97 especially Walt Strony playing Tico Tico. = I can=0Aalmost see the basket of fruit on his head.   John Carrington (aka The Rev. Sun Myung Lowrey) Chesterton, Indiana    
(back) Subject: Re: R. Duerr, Organ Recital, Cadet Chapel, West Point, NY - 10 May From: "Vincent" <vlefevere@unicall.be> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:53:00 +0200       ---------- > Van: bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> > Aan: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Onderwerp: Re: R. Duerr, Organ Recital, Cadet Chapel, West Point, NY - = 10 May > Datum: woensdag 29 april 1998 6:12 >=20 > Speaking on behalf of some of use who are monolingual for all practical > purposes; it is helpful if people translate titles from foreign tongues > into english. It helps us appreciate the music more. It is more > efficient for one person to do a correct translation so that we have th= e > information while we are listening, rather than having to go home or to > the library to find this after the fact. >=20 > bruce o h s __________ a g o > cornely o o __________ o o > ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ........... >=20 > Bruce, We, Flemish people (Belgium), living "between" French, Dutch, German, English have to learn all those languages very early at school (writing a= nd speaking) to get a decent job later on. So we don't understand al those discussions about "in which language". We just learn them, so we have no problem in reading programms containing information in other languages than our mother tongue. It is also a matte= r of maturity. Vincent Lef=E8vre    
(back) Subject: Re: Finally In!!! Rialto Pipe Extravaganza CD From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:05:33 -0400   John, This sounds like a "must have" theatre organ CD. How can I order one?   Stan Lowkis   TonyIn219 wrote: > > Finally, my CD from last year's Pipe Organ Extravaganza in Joliet arrived in > my mailbox, about 6 months after the concert. I listened to it this smorning > as I was getting ready for work. > .........(snip)  
(back) Subject: Re: May the Lord pickle you.... From: ComposerTX <ComposerTX@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:25:46 EDT   If people only sent you a private e-mail when offering a correction, they wouldn't be able to get their jollies. That only happens when they get to do it in front of a large crowd, sort of like a bad automobile wreck. So, please, don't suggest they use decorum; it would rob them of their only joy in life. Danny Ray ComposerTX