PipeChat Digest #482 - Sunday, August 9, 1998
 
Re: playing for one's own church
  by "Owen Jones" <owenj@dynamite.com.au>
Organ Info
  by "j. stuart" <jstuart1@pdq.net>
Re: playing for one's own church
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Organ Info
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
"King of Instrument" CDs
  by "rollin smith" <rollinsmithv@worldnet.att.net>
Multi-level pistons
  by <VOet@aol.com>
Organ Info ???
  by <danbel@earthlink.net>
Re: Multi-level pistons
  by "Karen R. Clifton" <karencl@worldnet.att.net>
Re: Multi-level pistons
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: Multi-level pistons
  by <PipeLuvr@aol.com>
Re: Multi-level pistons
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Multi-level pistons
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Multi-level pistons
  by <VOet@aol.com>
Re: Multi-level pistons
  by <VOet@aol.com>
Re: Multi-level pistons
  by <VOet@aol.com>
Re: Looking for a keyboard (X-posted)
  by <MWORGLBAU@aol.com>
Re: Looking for a keyboard (X-posted)
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: Looking
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: Multi-level pistons
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
(CROSS POSTED) Australian Theatre Organ Home Page.
  by "Brian Pearson" <bpearson@adelaide.on.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: playing for one's own church From: Owen Jones <owenj@dynamite.com.au> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 18:52:03 +1000   Hello Listers,   I have been lurking on the list since January. This has been an interesting thread. So I thought I would put in my oar. I belonged to a church for over 35 years. I played for many services, never got paid a cent, although I was required by church law to give them 10 percent of my money.   Most of the instruments were Hammond C3 models. Ghastly sound! I pleaded for years, that the authorities might buy something which would sound more like a classical organ. I was treated as a radical and somewhat of a Philistine. In one location they got rid of the C3 and bought (gasp) a National spinet to be used in a large auditorium. I played it a couple of times and then refused to touch it. It was not suitable for worship service. It took a change of leadership at the top, some musically inclined folk, took over and a 2 manual Allen was installed. It only took about 25 years of complaining. They didn't ask where to mount the speakers, just shoved them up on either side of the church, so you now have the great and swell divisions about as far apart as you could get them! It was very hard to get the right balance and volume, especially when the place was full to overflowing with parishioners. I made a few suggestions and was told that nothing would be done.   Some of the churches had awful pipe organs on them, 3 ranks, flute, diapason and a string of some description and unified to billyo. They were screechy and never tonally finished . A real drag to play!   Oh and BTW I was told on one occasion that I played too loudly, ha ha, how about that! So in consequent meetings I kept it down reasonably low. Unfortunately for that lot their appreciation of organ music was well come to think of it, expect for maybe one or two, nil, zilch!   So after all of that stuff that went on for all those years I gave it away and now just enjoy playing my rebuilt Conn 651 at home and singing in the Catherdal choir now and again.     Cheers   Owen    
(back) Subject: Organ Info From: "j. stuart" <jstuart1@pdq.net> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 06:22:50 -0500   Thanks for the organ information. i live very close to Baytown and had no idea that there were that many organs there. Will have to go take a look.    
(back) Subject: Re: playing for one's own church From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 08:15:12 -0400 (EDT)   If I was a member of a church which required me to return ten percent of my income in tithe but only provided me with an artitifical music machine to play, I believe I would return the favor (in complete compatibility with their theology) and pay my tithe in play money!   ...................bruce cornely.................. o o o _______________ o o o o h o _______________ o g o o o s _______________ a o o   ......... cremona84000@webtv.net ........   I have caught more ills from people sneezing over me and giving me virus infections than from kissings dogs. --Barbara Woodhouse    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Info From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 08:23:37 -0400 (EDT)     >Thanks for the organ information. i live very > close to Baytown and had no idea that there > were that many organs there. Will have to go > take a look. Please report your findings to the list. And.... don't forget to visit the battleship -- it's really cool.   ...................bruce cornely.................. o o o _______________ o o o o h o _______________ o g o o o s _______________ a o o   ......... cremona84000@webtv.net ........   I have caught more ills from people sneezing over me and giving me virus infections than from kissings dogs. --Barbara Woodhouse    
(back) Subject: "King of Instrument" CDs From: "rollin smith" <rollinsmithv@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 08:47:22 -0400   Mr. Paul Aldridge has suggested we post the address to which those interested may write to encourage CDs of Aeolian-Skinner's (note spelling) "King of Instrument" series.   It is: William T. Van Pelt Organ Historical Society P.O. Box 26811 Richmond, VA 23621            
(back) Subject: Multi-level pistons From: <VOet@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 10:22:41 EDT   Our organ has eight levels of memory on the pistons. I have level # 1 set up with hymn and service registrations. I use level # 2 for prelude, postlude & choir accompaniments. Level # 3 and # 4 are for "works in progress". The remaining levels are for the other people who use our instrument.   I occasionally forget to switch levels during a service and wonder if others have this problem. Also, I would like to know if you have found any tricks to insure that it does not happen. Any suggestions would be appreciated.   Bill Voetberg  
(back) Subject: Organ Info ??? From: danbel@earthlink.net Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 11:49:51 -0400   Hello listers---   This query reached my mailbox and I am forwarding to the list to see if anyone might be able to help. This is all the information that the writer included about the instrument.   Please email me privately with any info you might have to offer. I thank you in advance!   Dan       >Hello, > >I don't know very much about organs, but my mother asked me if I could help >her determine the worth of an antique organ that she owns. > >The information on the back of the organ is: > >A.B. Chase Organ Company >Norwalk, Ohio >1880 (March)Patent >H.R. Moore's Patents >R.W. Carpenters >Vox Humana >      
(back) Subject: Re: Multi-level pistons From: "Karen R. Clifton" <karencl@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 12:14:23 -0700   Bill: Our church organ only has two levels. I use Level A for Sunday services and Level B for weddings/guest organists. We have 10 general pistons. Seems to me it would be easiest if you could put all of your service selections on one level. But you may not have enough generals for that. Another thought. Don't know what your system of notation is, but I will share mine. On my music I put a triangle around the number of the general piston and a circle around the number of a divisional piston. You could, say, put a square box around the level number. My habit is to write the registration (in pencil always) at the very top of the music, noting which general it is. Then I write the piston numbers right down to the left of the first staff. You'll have to look there, and you could put your level number in a box there. Of course, unless you want to put numbers all in your hymnal, it won't help you to remember to switch to that level. So................. Hope this helps. Karen  
(back) Subject: Re: Multi-level pistons From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 10:39:02 -0700   VOet@aol.com wrote: > ... Also, I would like to know if you have found any tricks to > insure that it does not happen. Any suggestions would be appreciated.   If you are the "Titulaire" you should have more of the levels reserved for your use. Unless Virgil Fox is one of the regular "other" users, you should reserve 6 of the 8 for yourself. Then you could set the levels in order of progress through the service such as:   1. Prelude 2. Hymns 3. Anthems, choir accompaniments 4. Postlude 5 & 6. Works in progress   After each section of the service is completed, religiously set the level for the next "number" before leaving the bench.   Mac Hayes Cogito ergo muscosum    
(back) Subject: Re: Multi-level pistons From: <PipeLuvr@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 15:26:12 EDT   In a message dated 8/8/98 11:09:06 AM Central Daylight Time, karencl@worldnet.att.net writes:   > On my music I put a triangle around the number > of the general piston and a circle around the number of a divisional > piston.   An excellent idea, but I fear it may be resisted by the list as that Hammond did the same thing with their circles and squares 40 years ago! :)   Bob  
(back) Subject: Re: Multi-level pistons From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 16:10:29 -0400 (EDT)     >Our organ has eight levels of memory on the > pistons. Our's have five (pistons!)   >I occasionally forget to switch levels during a > service and wonder if others have this > problem. I occasionally forget that the chamade is ON on the Swell!!!   > Also, I would like to know if you have found > any tricks to insure that it does not happen. Um, don't use 'em!! hehehe   >Any suggestions would be appreciated. well you did say...... any! ;-)   However, when I played an Allen with 5 levels of memory, I set three levels in graduated fashion for French, English and German. (if I forgot to switch it didn't make too much difference, the primary difference being in the altered voiced) For service use, I set the entire service on one level (including voluntaries). The only way to make sure you change is not to need to! Otherwise, IT'S GUNNA GETCHA!   ...................bruce cornely.................. o o o _______________ o o o o h o _______________ o g o o o s _______________ a o o   ......... cremona84000@webtv.net ........   I have caught more ills from people sneezing over me and giving me virus infections than from kissings dogs. --Barbara Woodhouse    
(back) Subject: Re: Multi-level pistons From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 16:44:19 -0400 (EDT)     > Then you could set the levels in order of > progress through the service such as: >1. Prelude >2. Hymns >3. Anthems, choir accompaniments >4. Postlude   >After each section of the service is completed, > religiously set the level for the next "number" > before leaving the bench. Gee, Mac! are all your hymns before the anthem.... COOOOOOOOOOL! ;-)   >Cogito ergo muscosum Have you tried nasal spray for this??   ...................bruce cornely.................. o o o _______________ o o o o h o _______________ o g o o o s _______________ a o o   ......... cremona84000@webtv.net ........   I have caught more ills from people sneezing over me and giving me virus infections than from kissings dogs. --Barbara Woodhouse    
(back) Subject: Re: Multi-level pistons From: <VOet@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:57:35 EDT   Karen,   Thanks for your suggestions.   Bill  
(back) Subject: Re: Multi-level pistons From: <VOet@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:10:05 EDT   Mac,   You have a clever suggestion. I agree, the more consistant the system, the less prone to error. You have some good ideas. Thank you.   Bill Voetberg  
(back) Subject: Re: Multi-level pistons From: <VOet@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:17:00 EDT   Bruce,   Thanks for your thoughts on this. There are Sunday's where I can use only one level, but if the choir anthem, prelude and/or postlude require massive changes, I really need to use more than one.   Bill  
(back) Subject: Re: Looking for a keyboard (X-posted) From: <MWORGLBAU@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:28:00 EDT   Dear List,   For an upcoming project, I am looking for a single manual keyboard, with its accompying coupler action, that would have been constructed by and for Casavant around 1930. Specifically I'm looking for the type that you need the insertable hold-down rails installed before removing the keyboards, least the key springs go flying. I am not concerned about the condition of the key cheeks or kep slips, as these will be replaced, I am though looking for a keyboard that its coverings and coupler contacts are in reasonable condition. If you have such, and are willing to sell, please e-mail me privately and tell me what you are asking for it. I've already asked Casavant, and they didn't have any in their warehouse.   In advance, thanks :-)     Michael R. Williamson Williamson-Warne & Associates Hollywood Ca.  
(back) Subject: Re: Looking for a keyboard (X-posted) From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 18:16:42 -0700   MWORGLBAU@aol.com wrote: > Dear List, > For an upcoming project,   Rats, for a minute there I thought you were sending me a bunch of jokes. Guess I'll go out and whack some weeds (on account of the disappointment, of course)   Mac      
(back) Subject: Re: Looking From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 18:45:05 -0700   Mac Hayes wrote: > MWORGLBAU@aol.com wrote:...... > > Rats, for a minute there...   <Blush> ... now *I'VE* gone and done it.   Mac cogito ergo etc.    
(back) Subject: Re: Multi-level pistons From: dougcampbell@juno.com (Douglas A. Campbell) Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 23:35:24 EDT     On Sat, 8 Aug 1998 10:22:41 EDT <VOet@aol.com> writes:   > >I occasionally forget to switch levels during a service and wonder if >others >have this problem. Also, I would like to know if you have found any >tricks to >insure that it does not happen. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > >Bill Voetberg   I would think that notations to yourself penciled into the Sunday Bulletin would be sufficient.     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: (CROSS POSTED) Australian Theatre Organ Home Page. From: bpearson@adelaide.on.net (Brian Pearson) Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 16:25:44 +0930     Enthusiasts world wide may be interested in visiting the Theatre Organ Home Page of Mal McInnes who coordinates a weekly one hour FM stereo programme devoted to theatre organ music and interviews with organists. It is broadcast in Perth, the capital of Western Australia - that isolated and beautiful city of more than a million happy people who live a good deal nearer to Indonesia and Singapore than to Sydney, enjoying what is probably the world's most pleasant climate.   While the whole spectrum of theatre organ music is covered, the programme is oriented towards Australian organs and organists and the overseas musicians who visit Perth from time to time.   Mal's home page is:   http://www.amitar.com.au/~mal/   The radio programme may be downloaded and listened to each week in Real Audio mono sound direct from the broadcast in Perth.   http://rtrfm.ii.net/   every Saturday morning from 10.00 to 11.00 Australian Western Standard Time (8 hours ahead of GMT - that's 9.00 Friday evening US Eastern Standard Time).   Listeners in Perth should tune in to RTR 92.1 FM.   Cheers, Brian.