PipeChat Digest #483 - Monday, August 10, 1998
 
Re: Good EO vs Poor PO
  by "steve ashley" <piping.hot@virgin.net>
Re: Multi-level pistons
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Is a good Mac better than a poor PC?
  by "Cliff Benham" <cbenham@bellatlantic.net>
Re: Multi-level pistons
  by <VOet@aol.com>
Re: Multi-level pistons
  by <VOet@aol.com>
Re: Good EO vs Poor PO
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Good EO vs Poor PO
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Hook and Hastings
  by "Don G. Pribble" <donprib@juno.com>
Re: Hook and Hastings
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Theatre Organ Stop Rail Lights
  by <PipeLuvr@aol.com>
Re: Good EO vs Poor PO
  by <FireAlarmz@aol.com>
First Time
  by "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com>
RE: First Time
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
RE: Theatre Organ Stop Rail Lights
  by "Tom Blackwell  425-957-8648" <tom@spry.com>
Re: First Time
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: First Time
  by <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Re: First Time
  by "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Good EO vs Poor PO From: steve ashley <piping.hot@virgin.net> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 08:23:44 +0100   A few days ago Rebecka (sp?) remarked that the interminable discourse on Electronics vs Pipes was wearing thin. Having just cleared what seems like hundreds of messages from my e-mail, I am inclined to agree. Enough already! This subject may be interesting to a few (and it does seem that a few are generating the most postings), but to me at least, it's an academic question. I love TO, find EO sometimes moves me and rarely get turned on by CO. But that's just my perspective. Does anyone else care? I hope not!!   That's the way music is. Fact. Period. End of story. Some like jam and others marmelade. It isn't worth hours of trawling through postings!!! The great General Public don't give a da... what actually produces the sound. They don't usually know whether a note is electronically or accoustically produced. Most pop music now is electronic, of course, but most don't even question "what" or "why".   Yes, I can understand why someone not COMPLETELY gaga about organ music would quit a list like this. Sometimes I curse the day I heard my first theatre organ. We're all NUTS!   Steve Ashley Piping Hot Recording Company      
(back) Subject: Re: Multi-level pistons From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 08:28:09 EDT   In a message dated 8/8/98 10:24:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, VOet@aol.com writes:   << I occasionally forget to switch levels during a service and wonder if others have this problem. Also, I would like to know if you have found any tricks to insure that it does not happen. Any suggestions would be appreciated. >>   Get some Post-Its (self-stick note paper) in bright colors, and use them as warning flags for any changes ahead. I find it most useful to put them at the end of a piece, at which point I change levels. And yes, this does work for hymnals too!   Vicki Ceruti  
(back) Subject: Re: Is a good Mac better than a poor PC? From: Cliff Benham <cbenham@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 13:05:38 -0400   Is that because of the*****Special Sauce*****???? ||;~}    
(back) Subject: Re: Multi-level pistons From: <VOet@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 13:14:12 EDT   Douglas,   Thanks for your suggestion. I wrote a note in response to someone else about what one of our services is like. Unfortunately, there are times in our service where so much music comes back to back that I really can't look at the bulletin. We also use specially prepared mass booklets for the ordinary of the service which changes with the liturgical seasons. This is our attempt to make our services more user- friendly, since many people find juggling a prayer book, hymnal and bulletin a bit daunting.   I appreciate your kindness in replying.   Bill  
(back) Subject: Re: Multi-level pistons From: <VOet@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 13:31:19 EDT   Vicki,   Thanks for you suggestion. A number of people have suggested this, and I wonder why I did not think of it before, because I do use them for things like marking the pages of the service music, and pieces I play from collections.   I appreciate your idea.   Bill  
(back) Subject: Re: Good EO vs Poor PO From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:26:14 -0400 (EDT)   Steve Ashley whined: >A few days ago Rebecka (sp?) remarked that > the interminable discourse on Electronics vs > Pipes was wearing thin.   Not to cast any stones, but I am curious why people lurk, don't post, don't contribute, but when they get bored with OTHER people's postings they complain that too much time is spent on a given discussion. If the thread is continuing then there must be some sort of interest; there are different perspectives and it is interesting to read them. I get really bored with alot of the TO postings, but these people are a part of the list too and MOST of them patiently abide my tyrades, musings and abusings. To make this organic, if you are bored by other than TO start an exclusive list and don't allow any classical people on it or simply "push your cancel button." If you don't have an opinion or want to participate then go practice, but for Pete's sake quit whining!   > I love TO, find EO sometimes moves me and > rarely get turned on by CO. But that's just my > perspective. Does anyone else care? I hope > not!! Frankly no! But most of us are polite enough to allow you to express your opinion. >The great General Public don't give a da... > what actually produces the sound. They don't > usually know whether a note is electronically > or accoustically produced. Most pop music > now is electronic, of course, but most don't > even question "what" or "why". First of all, the word is DAMN! Just because the general public doesn't care doesn't mean we should belly up and die. Most pop music now is electronic--true; however, most pop music is also excrement! Most people don't care about much of anything any more, and it is that kind of blind indifference that is allowing garbage to dominate the music scene.   >Yes, I can understand why someone not > COMPLETELY gaga about organ music > would quit a list like this. We're glad you understand and bid you fond farewell if you can't put up with it any more.   > Sometimes I curse the day I heard my first > theatre organ. That's okay. I curse the each day when I hear an elecronic.   > We're all NUTS! Are you speaking for all TO people?   ...................bruce cornely.................. o o o _______________ o o o o h o _______________ o g o o o s _______________ a o o   ......... cremona84000@webtv.net ........   I have caught more ills from people sneezing over me and giving me virus infections than from kissings dogs. --Barbara Woodhouse    
(back) Subject: Re: Good EO vs Poor PO From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 12:05:18 -0700   steve ashley wrote: > > A few days ago... > ... It isn't worth hours of trawling through postings!!!   Yes it is! For me, anyway.   > The great General Public don't give a da... what actually produces the sound...   This list is not FOR the General Public. Nearly everybody here does have an interest in what produces the sound. My Delete button gets used a lot, but I still read at least part of EVERY posting.   Mac Hayes Cogito ergo deletum    
(back) Subject: Hook and Hastings From: donprib@juno.com (Don G. Pribble) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:53:10 -0500   A friend of mine would like to know if there are any Hook and Hastings organs in the area of Minneapolis/St. Paul.   Please advise Don Pribble, donprib@juno.com   And thanks in advance.   Clones are people two.   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Hook and Hastings From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:31:45 -0400 (EDT)   Don't know what's still there, but the Hook book lists: Minneapolis... Centenary Methodist - op 468 (1868) 2/23 Congregational - op 467 (1868) 2/23 Gethsemane Episcopal - op 1234 (1884) 2/30 Immaculate Conception - op 1170 (1883) 2/18 Lowry Hill Cong. - op 2181 (1908) 2/31 Pilgrim Cong. - 1564 (1893) 2/19 St. Mark Episc.- op 581 (1871) 3/35 St. Paul Episc. - op 1150 (1883) 2/18 Tabernacle Methodist - op 1052 (1881) 2/27   St. Paul... 1st Church of Christ, Sci op. 2425 (1920) 2/48 First Meth - op. 1086 (1882) 2/20 First Swedish Bapt - op. 2347 (1914) 2/40 French Catholic - op. 1160 (1883) 2/18 Hamline Meth. - op 2566 (1929) Sacred Heart RC - op. 2331 (1913) 2/33 St. Adalbert's op. 1694 ( 1895) 2/18 St. Mary's - op. 1341 (1887) 2/31 Unity - op. 1388 (1888) 2/18   May I take this opportunity to push this wonderful book. It is extremely interesting reading and is available from OHS (along with lots of other goodies). There is a similar book for Johnson Organs by John Van Varick Elsworth which is a very interesting history with pictures, stoplists, etc.   ...................bruce cornely.................. o o o _______________ o o o o h o _______________ o g o o o s _______________ a o o   ......... cremona84000@webtv.net ........   I have caught more ills from people sneezing over me and giving me virus infections than from kissings dogs. --Barbara Woodhouse    
(back) Subject: Theatre Organ Stop Rail Lights From: <PipeLuvr@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:54:58 EDT   We are looking for replacement stop rail lights for a Robert Morton Theatre Organ. The rail lights appear to be similar (and probably are identical) to license plate lights used on old model Fords. The front cover is a friction push-on metal dome with a bayonet type T90 bulb inside. The light fitting mounts from the front and the mounting base is oval in shape with two screws for mounting.   Does anyone have a source for replacement for these fittings? Any help appreciated.   Thanks, Bob  
(back) Subject: Re: Good EO vs Poor PO From: <FireAlarmz@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:31:25 EDT   In a message dated 98-08-09 14:28:06 EDT, Bruce Cornely wrote:   << they complain that too much time is spent on a given discussion. If the thread is continuing then there must be some sort of interest; there are different perspectives and it is interesting to read them. >>   I know we aren't supposed to take up bandwidth just to say I AGREE but I feel that Bruce is 100% correct. For what it's worth.......which is not much!   Peace, Bill "play a PO, like some EO" Miller  
(back) Subject: First Time From: "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 22:44:28 -0400   I have been told on different occasions that I play too loudly, too slowly or too quickly. Today, an older lady who at one time was a volunteer organist for the parish, was gracious enough to tell me that I played the communion hymn (Eat This Bread) too softly. At one point, I used only the 8' Floot, with the melody 8va, (at least I think it was a Floot, it could have been a Gedeckt or a Gedackt, I'll have to check).   Regarding soft organ music, has John Cage's 4'33" been transcribed for organ? It's a good length for a prelude.   Quiet regards, Kurt Kehler        
(back) Subject: RE: First Time From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:22:33 -0700   > > Regarding soft organ music, has John Cage's 4'33" been transcribed for > organ? It's a good length for a prelude. > Only for Hammonds   Dennis Goward (Duck!)    
(back) Subject: RE: Theatre Organ Stop Rail Lights From: Tom Blackwell (ED/786) 425-957-8648 <tom@spry.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:30:43 -0700   Hi Bob:   These are available from:   Restoration Supply Company 2060 Palisade Drive Reno, NV 89509 tele: (702) 825-5663 fax: (702) 825-9330 e-mail: restoration@rsc.reno.nv.us   Their #ELE007 & #ELE008 are very close to the stop rail lights used by Wurlitzer and others. You will need to modify the stem slightly to match the original length.   A list of other theatre organ restoration parts with sources is available on the Puget Sound Theatre Organ Society (PSTOS) web site:   http://www.pstos.org/features/restorat.htm   Best of Luck,   Tom Blackwell PSTOS Seattle, WA tom@pstos.org   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > PipeLuvr@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, August 09, 1998 8:17 PM > To: Pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Theatre Organ Stop Rail Lights > > > We are looking for replacement stop rail lights for a Robert > Morton Theatre > Organ. The rail lights appear to be similar (and probably > are identical) to > license plate lights used on old model Fords. The front > cover is a friction > push-on metal dome with a bayonet type T90 bulb inside. The > light fitting > mounts from the front and the mounting base is oval in shape > with two screws > for mounting. > > Does anyone have a source for replacement for these fittings? > Any help > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Bob > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: First Time From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 22:14:30 -0700   Kurt Kehler wrote: > ... > Regarding soft organ music, has John Cage's 4'33" been transcribed for > organ? It's a good length for a prelude.   I have a bootleg tape of this piece on the Methuen Music Hall organ, organist not identified. Anyone wanting a copy, e-mail me privately.   Mac Hayes cogito ergo prohibeo    
(back) Subject: Re: First Time From: <ComposerTX@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:55:52 EDT   Kurt, you're right about John Cage's 4'33" being just the right length. I have transcribed it for organ. It's available for $25.00 US per copy. Send to Danny Ray. And, oh yes, the length of the piece. . . by the time the piece is finished, I'm already halfway to Luby's. LOL Danny Ray  
(back) Subject: Re: First Time From: "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 02:23:52 -0400   On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:57:23 -0400, ComposerTX@aol.com wrote:   >Kurt, you're right about John Cage's 4'33" being just the right length. I have >transcribed it for organ. It's available for $25.00 US per copy. Send to Danny >Ray. And, oh yes, the length of the piece. . . by the time the piece is >finished, I'm already halfway to Luby's. >LOL >Danny Ray   Danny,   Oh my nerves... (clearing tears of laughter). Listen, Danny, since my check is already in the mail, would you mind sending my copy today, so I can get a headstart on learning the notes?   What's Luby's? Some sort of pizza joint with organ?   Kurt