PipeChat Digest #490 - Monday, August 17, 1998
 
Bach St. Matthew's
  by "dave pitzer" <dpitzer@sonic.net>
Re: Bach St. Matthew's
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: Bach St. Matthew's
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Re: Bach St. Matthew's
  by "KARL W KELLER" <kwkeller@juno.com>
Organist Exchange & Recital Trip - Part Two
  by <Cpmnhartus@aol.com>
Re: Estey Reed Organ available cheap
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Conn Problem
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Conn Enlargement--Looking for parts.
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Conn Problem
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Conn Enlargement--Looking for parts.
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Conn Enlargement--Looking for parts.
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
RE: Conn Problem
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
Re: Conn Problem
  by "John F. Crowley" <jfjc@juno.com>
Re: Estey Reed Organ available cheap
  by "John F. Crowley" <jfjc@juno.com>
Re: Conn Enlargement--Looking for parts.
  by "Owen Jones" <owenj@dynamite.com.au>
 


(back) Subject: Bach St. Matthew's From: dave pitzer <dpitzer@sonic.net> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 02:49:32 -0700   Hello all,   Off the subject a bit but....   I'm about to purchase a recording of the St. Matthew Passion by our friend J.S. Bach. I have an older reading but want to add a newer one (sond-wise) to my collection. My only criterion is this: all male voices -- or at least mostly male. Certainly male chorus voices (boys choir) rather than a big, mushy, lush Mormon Tabernacle "sound". Authenic (period) instruments would be nice (and appropriate) as well. Your comments/suggestions would be welcomed.   Also, I'm attempting to kindle my 21 year old nephew's new-found interest in the classical pipe organ. He surprisingly expressed an interest in a couple of CDs from my collection that he heard me playing. What, in your considered opinion is the ONE best CD (or two) that I could give him for his upcoming birthday? Something that he might keep and play for a number of years and maybe even thank me for in, say, twenty years. Hmmmm...   Dave Pitzer  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach St. Matthew's From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 03:29:19 -0700   dave pitzer wrote: > ... What, in your > considered opinion is the ONE best CD (or two) > that I could give him ...   Just about anything by Thomas Murray, but especially on the Yale Newberry Skinner. "An Evening at Woolsey Hall" is good, if you don't think he will be scared off by the Messiaen. Also "The Symphonic Organ" is great if you don't feel the need for some representative standard organ works.   I just received a couple of CDs from JAV Recordings, http://www.greatorgancds.com in their Aeolian-Skinner series (supposed to be picking up where the A-S "King of Instruments" series left off back in the early '70s). JAV105, Erick Wm. Suter, includes Bach, Sweelinck, Tournemire, Vierne, Durufle and Dupre, and is really pretty easy on the ears. Out of the 8 disks listed in their flyer, I also picked Timothy Smith, JAV104, with only a couple of Bach chorales, Franck, Hollins, Langlais, Ireland, Mendelssohn, Shearing, and a few other mellow romantic numbers. I guess the one that covers the widest spectrum is the Suter.   Your best bet would be to include some more of what you were playing that perked his ears up the first time.   Mac Hayes cogito per musica    
(back) Subject: Re: Bach St. Matthew's From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 08:15:47 -0400   Hi Dave,   A tough question as I have a TON of favorites! However, two come to mine, especially for a `beginning' listener:   DELOS CD 3145 Title: In a quiet cathedral organist: Todd Wilson organ: Aeolian-Skinner at the Cathedral of St. Philip, Atlanta There are two CDs in this set with a number of wonderful pieces and a `special young people's notes' in the booklet. Wonderful playing throughout and, an excellent buy!   ARKAY CD 6143 Title: The Great Organ at Czestochowa organist: Thomas Murray organ: Austin organ in the National Shrine of Our Lady of Czestochowa, Doylestown, Pennsylvania Tom Murray performs fourteen ``favorites'' on the organ in this superb acoustical setting. Again, a great performance by a incredible musician.   Also, check out several recordings on the NAXOS label. They are very inexpensive, (about 6 bucks apiece) and a number of them have some fine playing. The Durufle collection is just great!   If your nephew loves the music of Gustav Holst the RAVEN CD of `The Planets', transcribed for organ with Peter Sykes is a `floor shaker' and `dust buster'!   Best regards,   Bonnie Beth Derby producer/host ``Orgelwerke'' and ``Choral Traditions'' WCNY-FM/WUNY-FM/WJNY-FM, Syracuse, Utica & Watertown, New York orge@dreamscape.com   ---------- > From: dave pitzer   >I'm attempting to kindle my 21 year old nephew's new-found interest > in the classical pipe organ.....What, in your > considered opinion is the ONE best CD (or two) that I could give him for > his upcoming birthday?  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach St. Matthew's From: kwkeller@juno.com (KARL W KELLER) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 11:15:53 -0400   Dave, Why not tell us the details of the CDs from your collection which sparked the interest of your nephew. This would give us an idea of what music and composers would be of interest to your nephew. It has already been suggested that the works of Durufle might spark an interest but, IMHO, if I was subjected to hearing Durufle when I became interested in the organ I would have become disinchanted at the outset. Durufle himself said that he was not satisfied with many of his works and, as a result, threw many away. Only 11 of his works have been published.   Karl Musica est Dei donum optimi *********************************************************************************************** On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 02:49:32 -0700 dave pitzer <dpitzer@sonic.net> writes: (snip)   >Also, I'm attempting to kindle my 21 year old nephew's new-found interest in the classical pipe organ. He surprisingly expressed an interest in a couple of CDs from my collection that he heard me playing. What, in your considered opinion is the ONE best CD (or two) that I could give him   for his upcoming birthday? Something that he might keep and play for a number of years and maybe even thank me for in, say, twenty years. Hmmmm... > >Dave Pitzer > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Organist Exchange & Recital Trip - Part Two From: <Cpmnhartus@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 15:38:27 EDT   From George W. Bayley Oak Ridge, Tennessee 16th August 1998   Organist Exchange and Recital Trip - Part Two   Dear Listers:   After the lunchtime recital at Christ Church Cathedral in Dublin, we boarded the 3.20 train for Belfast in order to be at Holywood Parish Church in time for my next C. S. Lewis memorial recital at 7.30 PM. This was my second recital in Holywood. I played there three years ago. The crowd for this year's recital was more than six times larger than before.   Following the recital, Mr. James O'Fee, chairman of the C. S. Lewis Centenary Group of Northern Ireland, gave a short lecture on the Belfast-born Lewis. He then explained the connection of Holywood Parish Church to St. Mark's Church, Dundela in East Belfast where Lewis was baptised and where his maternal grandfather was the first Rector. In earlier times, St. Mark's had been a mission chapel of Holywood Parish.   Earlier this year, we had tried to book a recital at St. Mark's, but the organ, a four manual Compton built in 1932, was in no condition to support a recital. There are plans, however, for the complete restoration of the organ. The entire church building is the final stages of the full renovation of its fabric. The church building was designed by William Butterfield, the famous architect of Keble College, Oxford University as well as many other outstanding Victorian buildings. The architecture is extraordinary and it shows Butterfield at his best, not for the Victorian splendor of Keble, but for his great restraint in creating a magnificent building on a limited budget. It is well worth a visit.   Holywood Parish Church, aka The Church of St. Philip and St. James in Holywood, is a church of more than 3,000 members with an excellent Sunday attendance and a very fine music program. The ruins of its earlier 12th century building can be seen a few blocks away. The present church building incorporates the second church with its tower plus two windows that originally were in the 12th century building. The organ is a large three manual J. W. Walker of 1963 which incorporates pipework from the Forster and Andrews of 1875 with the console in the front of the church and the pipework in twin cases either side of the great west window. It is a splendid instrument that is an excellent vehicle for a wide variety of repertoire.   My three weeks as exchange organist in Holywood were among the memorable times of our lives. It was a great experience to live for a while in a rural area of County Down, Northern Ireland and to be a part of the church's ministry. The choir and members of the parish were very friendly and they welcomed us wholeheartedly into the life of the church. Many were the invitations to the homes of choir members and parishioners and then there was that day of sailing on the Irish Sea which I mentioned last time. I am proud to say that my church, St. Stephen's Episcopal Church in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, gave Edwin Gray and his family the same kind of warm welcome. It was a happy exchange for both churches, something that all of us want to repeat. Next year, however, my exchange will be with John Walker, the organist of Dunkeld Cathedral in Scotland.   Before I conclude Part Two, I wish to write a little about the centenary celebration of C. S. Lewis's birth in Northern Ireland. The Centenary Group has organized the C. S. Lewis Trail, much of which is a walking trail. We took the organized walking tour on a Saturday morning which began at St. Mark's, Dendela in East Belfast.   After touring St. Mark's, we went next door to the Rectory where Lewis's grandfather had lived. Of interest is the door knob on the front door which shows a lion's head. The is at eye level of a young lad, and could this have been the inspiration for Aslan in "The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe". Many researchers think that this is a distinct possibility, but no one can prove it, of course. The walking tour took us also to Bernagh, the home of Arthur Greaves, long time friend of Lewis, and across the road to Little Lea, the boyhood home of C. S. Lewis and his brother Warnie.   Following the tour, my wife and I drove to the Inn at Crawfordsburn where we had a fine meal. James O'Fee joined us at the end of lunch and the three of us walked about and saw the cottage behind the inn where Lewis and Joy spent their honeymoon. In the movie "Shadowlands", they are shown as having their honeymoon in England. Another inaccuarcy is that Lewis (played by Sir Anthony Hopkins) is shown driving a car. Actually, he drove a car only once while in Oxford, had a wreck with it, and never drove again. At the top of a hill near the Inn at Crawfordburn, we saw Silver Hill, the house where Arthur Greaves lived from 1949.   Part Three will deal with Belfast Cathedral ( St. Anne's Cathedral, Church of Ireland); the American composer, Kenton Coe; and my interview on BBC Radio Ulster.   George   George W. Bayley Senior U. S. Consultant Copeman Hart - America 107 East Pasadena Road Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37830-5112 Tel. 423.482.8600 Fax. 423.482.8600   COPEMAN HART & COMPANY Church Organ Builders IRTHLINGBOROUGH Northamptonshire ENGLAND NN9 5TZ http://www.copemanhart.co.uk   AUSTRALIAN CONSULTANCY Copeman Hart - Australia 60 Memorial Avenue ST. IVES NSW 2075 Email: hamilton.stives@bigpond.com (Peter Hamilton)      
(back) Subject: Re: Estey Reed Organ available cheap From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 21:17:44 -0400 (EDT)   FireAlarmz writted: ><< "Turn your washing machine into a cash > cow!!!" >> >waiting for a Cornely-ism on *that* one...   I not sure what kind of a spin you want on this; it's hard to think on Sunday evening.... Agitating, ain't it!   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o o h o o ______________ o o g o o o s o ______________ o a o o   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............   Beagles always listen attentively while being scolded, looking innocent, bewildered, and misunderstood. --James Thurber (alt)    
(back) Subject: Conn Problem From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 21:20:14 -0400   I had to literally rebuild my Conn. It was in a shed, mice made their nests with the Leslie insulation.   I had to replace ALL the wiring!   Iff your looking for parts, you'd have to pay a pretty penny for them, or find someone who will GIVE you the parts, or an entire organ.   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Conn Enlargement--Looking for parts. From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 21:12:23 -0400   I own a Conn ??? (I haven't looked at the model in a while.)   My grandparents won't let me keep it. (Who are THEY to decide my life)   But, on the other hand, The local theatre group wants me to use it in the orchestra. They have no place to keep it (Unless it's in an old garage)   I have had the idea to enlarge it to the WurliTzer 2022. (The one I was talking about a while ago.)   WILL THE PERSON WHO UP-DATED THEIR TONE GENERATORS PLEASE COME FORWARD.   I have to up-date the tone generators systems to what Allen does with their systems (Older insturments). They use one generator for the flutes, one for diapason, one for reeds, one for strings. If I can locate the following parts, I'd be on my way.   *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*   PARTS:   32 NOTE AGO PEDALBOARD   3-61 NOTE AGO KEYBOARDS   TONE GENERATORS (preferably Master Oscillator/Divider Frquency)   PISTON/TOE STUDS (and possible C/A Sytem) (either setterboard, tripper, or capture system accepted)   REALISTIC SOUNDING ELECTRIC PERCUSSION INSTRUMENTS   CONSOLE SHELL (Nothing fancy) (for approx. 175 stop tablets-3/61 note manuals, 3 swell pedals, etc...)   *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* YES..... it will be big, but It really only uses 18 voices!     Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Conn Problem From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 22:10:10 -0400 (EDT)   Jason Comet wrote: >I had to literally rebuild my Conn. ...... mice made their nests with the Leslie > insulation.   RATS! What a terrible tale! '-)   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o o h o o ______________ o o g o o o s o ______________ o a o o   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............   Beagles always listen attentively while being scolded, looking innocent, bewildered, and misunderstood. --James Thurber (alt)    
(back) Subject: Re: Conn Enlargement--Looking for parts. From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 22:17:17 -0400 (EDT)   Jason Comet wrote: >I own a Conn... >My grandparents won't let me keep it. (Who > are THEY to decide my life) They only want what's best for you. They love you, Jason!! '-)   >I have had the idea to enlarge it to the > WurliTzer 2022. >If I can locate the following parts, I'd be on my > way. >*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* >PARTS: >32 NOTE AGO PEDALBOARD >3-61 NOTE AGO KEYBOARDS >TONE GENERATORS (preferably Master > Oscillator/Divider Frquency) >PISTON/TOE STUDS (and possible C/A > Sytem) =A0 =A0 =A0 (either setterboard, tripper, or > capture system accepted) >REALISTIC SOUNDING ELECTRIC >PERCUSSION INSTRUMENTS >CONSOLE SHELL (Nothing fancy) >=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 (for approx. 175 stop tablets-3/61 > note manuals, 3 swell pedals, =A0 =A0 =A0 etc...) >*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Hmmm! Seems to me I saw all this stuff for sale somewhere. Oh yea! It's was all packaged and ready to go. It's called a NEW ORGAN! (good luck)   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o o h o o ______________ o o g o o o s o ______________ o a o o   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............   Beagles always listen attentively while being scolded, looking innocent, bewildered, and misunderstood. --James Thurber (alt)    
(back) Subject: Re: Conn Enlargement--Looking for parts. From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 20:36:18 -0700   At 09:12 PM 8/16/98 -0400, Jason D. Comet wrote:   >I have to up-date the tone generators systems to what Allen does with >their systems (Older insturments). <snip>   Allen NEVER used master oscillators/freq dividers in any of their "serious" analog organs. Maybe on some of their garbage for Sears Silvertone, or some other spinet stuff, but never on the TC series. They used unified ranks of individual oscillators, thus providing a true "chorus" effect that couldn't be achieved with divider organs, or tonewheels (except for the Hammond BC, D and E, which had two tonewheel generators.) Unfortunately, often the ranks were all fed into the same power amp, so a lot of the tonal animation and spatial diversity were lost. But when they had separate power amps/speaker systems, the were quite convincing in their day. If I'm not mistaken, they used germanium transistors right up until going digital in '71.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: RE: Conn Problem From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 22:35:23 -0700   Must be something about those old Conns . . . I saw one in a tech's shop that had been in Prescott, AZ. Seems the mice had feasted on the insulation off the wires.   > Jason Comet wrote: > >I had to literally rebuild my Conn. > ..... mice made their nests with the Leslie > > insulation. > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Conn Problem From: jfjc@juno.com (John F. Crowley) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 01:22:14 -0500   You could always use some D-Conn!   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Estey Reed Organ available cheap From: jfjc@juno.com (John F. Crowley) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 01:21:10 -0500   Why don't you run it through your "thinking" cycle one more time!   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Conn Enlargement--Looking for parts. From: Owen Jones <owenj@dynamite.com.au> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 18:38:35 +1000   Are you talking about earlier contribution?   I updated my Conn 651 using Kits from Sonic Creations. Tonally the organ now has the following: Concert Flute Tibia Clausa English Post Horn Brass Trumpet Kinura Tuba Mirabilis Tuba Horn Diapason Viole de Orch Cello French Horn Brass Sax (Wurli style) Sax (Barton style) Clarinet Oboe horn Orch Oboe Musette Vox Humana String Celeste (not installed yet)   Through 12 channels.   Main is in the hall and the solo and pedal are in the living room, The console is in the family room. The sound is quite good. Don Becker (Sonic Creations) is the man to get in touch with, I believe he is building a large organ with about 20 ranks.   Cheers   Owen Jones       Jason D. Comet wrote:   > snip       > WILL THE PERSON WHO UP-DATED THEIR TONE GENERATORS PLEASE COME FORWARD. > snip