PipeChat Digest #621 - Saturday, December 5, 1998
 
Wasps & Ladybugs...
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: GW Philharmonic Organ
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Help!  I've lost my Lost Chord!
  by <douglas@blackiris.com>
Re: Convention mailing
  by <HOLYMUSIC@aol.com>
Re: GW Philharmonic Organ
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Serpent
  by <Lewwill@aol.com>
Re: Convention mailing
  by "Tim Rand" <tim@minn.net>
Beasties in the Reeds
  by "Bud" <budchris@earthlink.net>
RE: Beasties in the Reeds
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
Re: Beasties in the Reeds, and some in the Flues too!!!! :-(
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
The Lost Chord -- found!  tnx (long)
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: The Lost Chord -- found!  tnx (long)
  by <Afreed0904@aol.com>
Re: Help!  I've lost my Lost Chord!
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
Re: Beasties in the Reeds, and some in the Flues too!!!! :-(
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
Re: Help!  I've lost my Lost Chord!
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Beasties in the Reeds, and some in the Flues too!!!! :-(
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Beasties in the Reeds, and some in the Flues too!!!! :-(
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Mahler 8th
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Re: Beasties in the Reeds, and some in the Flues too!!!! :-(
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Reed Regulation (was Beasties in the Reeds......)
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Wasps & Ladybugs... From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:38:39 EST   Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> writes: <snip> ... No more wasps going into the reeds from the chest end! <snip>   This fall one of the churches whose organ we tune called and stated that we must have done a bad job of tuning their several reed ranks. When the crew returned, they found that nearly two dozen reed pipes had been chosen as the hibernation spot for the Asian Ladybugs. They were still alive when the crew cleaned the shallots.   WurliStan    
(back) Subject: Re: GW Philharmonic Organ From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 06:21:33 -0600   VEAGUE wrote: > > Kevin C... Thank you for the info. on Mr. Wrights' residence instrument. I (snip)   I curoius to know what the 8' Serpent sounds like.   krc      
(back) Subject: Re: Help! I've lost my Lost Chord! From: douglas@blackiris.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 07:39:41 -0600   I have the piece in a piano/vocal arrangement if you still need it.  
(back) Subject: Re: Convention mailing From: HOLYMUSIC@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:16:07 EST   PLease mail packet to: Nae Pearson Director of Music Ministries St. Louis Catholic Church 2907 Popkins Lane Alexandria, VA 22306  
(back) Subject: Re: GW Philharmonic Organ From: DudelK@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:34:28 EST   The serpent makes a loud hiss, and occasionally a little rattle sound.  
(back) Subject: Serpent From: Lewwill@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:29:09 EST   Hi Kevin   You can check out the Serpent at OSP when you get here. Like a Liquid Laser Beam.   Lew  
(back) Subject: Re: Convention mailing From: "Tim Rand" <tim@minn.net> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:55:40 -0600   Judy--Sounds tempting. [I attended part of a Worcester regional in the 80's which I will never forget. Will that magnificent Groton School organ be included again?]   Snail mail address is below in signature. Please include me in your mailing. Thanks. Tim   Responding to the message of <199812041000.EAA08929@mail.minn.net> from "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>:   > Subject: Convention mailing > From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:13:25 -0500 > > >From Judy Ollikkala, Publicity Committee: e-mail address > 71431.2534@compuserve.com > > If you would like to have the Worcester MA Region I AGO Convention packet > mailed to you, please send me your snailmail address. They are going out > the day after Christmas (along with your income tax forms)! crawl the day > after. Dates are Sunday through Wednesday, June 27-30, 1999, with a > Post-Convention Organ Crawl to be held within Worcester County on Thursday, > July 1, 1999 conducted by myself. The Young Artist Regional Organ > Competition will be held on Saturday, June 26. Why not combine this with a > New England vacation trip, we have everything you need for a grand time! > You don't want to miss recitals and workshops with Marie-Claire Alain, > Joyce Jones, Tom Murray, Martin Jean, Alice Parker, James David Christie, > The Boston Church of the Advent Choir - Edith Ho, Director, Mark Dwyer, > Katharine Pardee, Horace Boyer, Catherine Rodland, BSO instruments, > Paramount Brass, Youth Pro Musica, new compositions by Daniel Pinkham, > Marjorie Merryman, Gwyneth Walker and others, Richard Coffey, James > Woodman, Peter Sykes, Harold Stover, Kenneth Grinnell, Daniel Moore, > Malcolm Halliday, Hymn Competition, AND MORE!! Not to mention Worcester's > many and varied pipe organs! Earlybird registration ends Feb. 1, 1999.     ___ Tim Rand 240 NE 6th St. Minneapolis MN 55413 (612) 378-1658 tim@minn.net    
(back) Subject: Beasties in the Reeds From: Bud <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 09:55:36 -0800   Growing up in Florida, I seem to remember that the reed pipes (at least in the older organs) had little muslin bags tied over the open end to keep the critters out.   Regards,   Bud Clark    
(back) Subject: RE: Beasties in the Reeds From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:33:39 -0700   >Growing up in Florida, I seem to remember that the reed pipes (at least >in the older organs) had little muslin bags tied over the open end to >keep the critters out.   Would this be a problem just in the reed pipes?   Dennis    
(back) Subject: Re: Beasties in the Reeds, and some in the Flues too!!!! :-( From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:49:40 EST   The Asian Ladybug-----YESSSSSSSSS---I maintain several pipe organs in the Northeast sector of Pennsylvania. You wouldnt believe!!!!!!! I have no idea what the problem is with natural predators vs this bug,,,BUT,,,there does not seem to be any recourse against this scourge. They get in everywhere in pipe organs,,,,it seems that churches that are not used every day or used very little suffer the worst. Yes,,,reed pipes are the worst, these pests seem to love enclosed or nearly enclosed places to hibernate, breed,,or whatever they do. However, I have observed several instances of flue pipes having had so many of the dern bugs crawl into the toe that when the pipe is sounded,,,the wind blowing them up to the mouth then piles them up in a dead/nearly dead mess in the mouth of the pipe. Ahhh yes,,,,but as my friends(out of the area) say---But,,but they are such CUTE little bugs,,and harmless at that and soooooo cute as they crawl about. Hmmm,,,in one pipe organ situation I vacuumed a shop vac container (about 5 gal size) FULL of the dern little dehydrated bodies. Believe me,,they are not cute in that quantity. Thanks, Bud Clark for the suggestion on the bags over the resonators of reed pipes, I will try it,,,obviously that wouldnt work on flue pipes since the mouth would have to be dealt with. Flue pipes are not the worst situation as the windway has to be large enough for the dern things to crawl down thru, so that decreases the number of pipes that can be affected substantially. :-)   -Roc          
(back) Subject: The Lost Chord -- found! tnx (long) From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:00:55 -0500 (EST)   Thanks to all who helped me get a copy of The Lost Chord. It was very much appreciated by all present.   Music for the Funeral Mass of Gordon Frederick Prelude: A Solemn Melody . . Walford-Davies; Prelude (12 Pieces) . . Dubois; Sheep May Safely Graze . . Bach; Priere a Notre-Dame . . Boellman; Meditation . . Choveaux   Entrance Hymn: Holy, Holy, Holy (Nicaea) Presentation Hymn: Here I Am, Lord Communion Hymn: Amazing Grace Concluding Hymn: Love Divine (Hyfrydol) Postlude: Now thank we all our God Bach/Fox   Eulogy for an organist: Gordon and I chatted often after the 7 am Sunday Masses. It was his ministry to the parish to play the organ for this Mass for the past ten years. Not really being a morning person, I am really thankful for his calling. He also faithfully played for 7 am Masses on Holy Days. After Mass, over coffee, we would talk about the organ, organs in general, theatre organs in particular, and, of course, trains. I suppose it is not surprising that organists would have hot air and loud noises as a common interest. We discussed air horns (diaphones as they are called in theatre organ circles), steam whistles, calliopes, bells, and on and on. All Gordon needed was a slight modulation of thought to send him into a new key of discussion. Not only was he knowledgeable, but he was interesting about it. As the Director of Music for Holy Faith Church, I work with many volunteers. Gordon's example shines as a beacon to all volunteers: this is the way it should be done -- consistently, faithfully, to the best of your ability, and cheerfully. Gordon was never visibly effected in my presence by his medical problems. His smile was always turned on high, his eyes always sparkled, and his words were always positive even when what he was telling me was not. These are traits that I would very much like to emulate and carry on to share with others. The song which I will play now, "The Lost Chord" by Arthur Sullivan,, is a meeting of the two media of theatre organ and church organ music. The text is one which is understood by all organists. I read it now: Seated one day at the organ, I was weary and ill at ease, And my fingers wandered idly over the noisy keys. I know not what I was playing, or what I was dreaming then, But I struck one chord of music like the sound of a great Amen.   It flooded the crimson twilight Like the close of an Angel's Psalm. And it lay on my fevered spirit, With a touch of infinite calm. It quieted pain and sorrow, Like love overcoming strife, It seemed the harmonious echo from our discordant life.   It linked all perplexed meanings Into one perfect peace, And trembled away into silence As if it were loath to cease. I have sought but I seek it vainly, that one lost chord divine Which came from the soul of the organ, And entered into mine. It may be that Death's bright Angel, will speak in that chord again, It may be that only in Heaven I shall hear that grand Amen.   Gordon is now with God. In heaven worship is perfect: the organ is never too loud, the organ is always in tune, the organ is always the "right kind and size", people do not chat during the prelude, no one leaves during the final hymn. Gordon is now participating in the greatest worship ever, and I am certain that he has again found that Grand Amen. His Lost Chord is now Found.   -----   Thanks again to all who helped make this possible. The poor secretaries thought the FAX machine had had a breakdown! hehehe   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     No one appreciates the very special genius of your conversation as a dog does. -- Christopher Morley    
(back) Subject: Re: The Lost Chord -- found! tnx (long) From: Afreed0904@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:30:48 EST   Bruce:   It could not have been done better.   Incredible. How nice that we believe it anyway.   Alan  
(back) Subject: Re: Help! I've lost my Lost Chord! From: Prestant16@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:48:50 EST   Can't find the lost chord? Look under the pedalboard! You might even find last years soloist!     -William  
(back) Subject: Re: Beasties in the Reeds, and some in the Flues too!!!! :-( From: Prestant16@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:53:34 EST   I've seen Cheese cloth used, and quite succesfully, it does not change the tone of the reeds either.   -William C.  
(back) Subject: Re: Help! I've lost my Lost Chord! From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:04:04 -0500 (EST)   =A0=A0>Look under the pedalboard! You might even >find last years soloist!   Oooh! Icch! I thought that was an old twinkie!! ;-)   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     No one appreciates the very special genius of your conversation as a dog does. -- Christopher Morley    
(back) Subject: Re: Beasties in the Reeds, and some in the Flues too!!!! :-( From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:06:11 -0500 (EST)     >I've seen Cheese cloth used, and quite > succesfully, it does not change the tone of the > reeds either.   I have a wretched Trompette which I would like to soften and change the timbre slightly. I was wondering if a thicker material might do this and keep the crappola out of the resonator. Any thoughts?   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     No one appreciates the very special genius of your conversation as a dog does. -- Christopher Morley    
(back) Subject: Re: Beasties in the Reeds, and some in the Flues too!!!! :-( From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:21:38 -0600     bruce cornely wrote: > > I have a wretched Trompette which I would like to soften and change the > timbre slightly. I was wondering if a thicker material might do this > and keep the crappola out of the resonator. Any thoughts? >     How about Tupperware ?! :o)  
(back) Subject: Mahler 8th From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:32:41 -0600   I'm listening to a wonderful recording of Mahler's 8th recorded in Sofiensaal, Vienna. Cond. is Solti and the CSO. Does anyone have a clue as to who built this organ?    
(back) Subject: Re: Beasties in the Reeds, and some in the Flues too!!!! :-( From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 23:03:18 -0500 (EST)   Well, I did consider fruit in the resonators! Trompette a' plum...   I wrote (hehehe) I have a wretched Trompette which I would like to soften and change the timbre slightly. I was wondering if a thicker material might do this and keep the crappola out of the resonator. =A0 Any thoughts?   Someone said: =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 How about Tupperware ?! =A0 =A0 =A0 :o) (burp!)   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     The small percentage of dogs that bite people is monumental proof that the dog is the most benign, forgiving creature on earth. -- W. R. Koehler    
(back) Subject: Re: Reed Regulation (was Beasties in the Reeds......) From: Prestant16@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 00:14:42 EST     << I have a wretched Trompette which I would like to soften and change the timbre slightly. I was wondering if a thicker material might do this and keep the crappola out of the resonator. Any thoughts? >>     Consult your organ tuner. If this is your home insturment, experiment! I have a 1920's H&H trumpet that had flaps soldered on the top, like on some oboes. The flaps can be opened or closed or anywhere in-between. Although the soldering job was not great, it worked well enough for the trumpet to pass as a Cornopean. I suppose leather around the top would work fine too. An alternative method is to tune a note go slightly sharp at the reed wire, then tune the reed by the scrolls. DON'T ever tear the scrolls to louden reeds, it is the mark of an amateur, or a bad organbuilder. Once you have a few pipes regulated, then you can go ahead and even out the entire rank using the same method. A few tips: DON'T: -Use tape to secure the scrolls in place, they should sit evenly with the rest of the bell. Just form them so there is as little gap as possible on the sides. -Tear the scrolls down. -never use pliers to move scrolls, you hand should do just fine, remember NEVER leave marks. DO: -Use felt when rolling scrolls so you don't get a metalic buzzing noise. -Regulate the pipes so that they are the correct strength at the console, not in the chamber. Just yesterday I was sitting at the console of an organ, while someone was inside regulating the trumpet in the swell. To him Tenor F sounded 4 times louder than any others, but at the console it sounded just fine.     To anybody: PLEASE don't take this as a "how-to" on regulating the reeds at your church. It may seem pretty easy to do, but somtimes you may do more damage than good. Leave the reed regulating up to your organ tuner. If you have reeds out of tune, just think..... that's how the Cavialle-Coll organs in france sound! The organs are not tuned twice a year, maybe once every 5 years!   -William C.