PipeChat Digest #230 - Monday, February 2, 1998
 
Re: T.O. Pipework facades?
  by <Steskinner@aol.com>
Re: Where are they now?
  by Charles E. Brown <clmoney@cybernex.net>
Re: Erie Organ :-)
  by <SCoonrod@aol.com>
Re: [Fwd:]  What's the word on the organ for the Mormon "Supernacle"?
  by Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net>
Pipe Organ Company Office Manager/Administrative Assistant Position
  by Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net>
Shrove Tuesday organ concert
  by Judy A. Ollikkala <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: Another Moeller Question
  by Kevin.M.Simons-1 <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu>
Re: Another Moeller Question
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: ??
  by Vincent <vlefevere@unicall.be>
Glue for wooden pipes
  by Judy A. Ollikkala <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #226 - 01/30/98
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Postlude showing off
  by Jillian (Bach) Schultheis <organgeek@geocities.com>
Re: piston setting methods - was Another Moeller Question
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Virgil Fox
  by Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Another Moeller Question
  by Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: T.O. Pipework facades?
  by Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Another Moeller Question
  by Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Postlude showing off
  by Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #226 - 01/30/98
  by Ken <mewzishn@spec.net>
Re: Where are they now?
  by Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: Postlude showing off
  by Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire <stops@globalnet.co.uk>
Re: Virgil Fox
  by Charles E. Brown <clmoney@cybernex.net>
Re: Postlude showing off
  by Charles E. Brown <clmoney@cybernex.net>
Re: Postlude showing off
  by Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net>
Re: Postlude showing off
  by Jim H <BALD1@prodigy.net>
Re: Virgil Fox
  by Jim H <BALD1@prodigy.net>
Re: Erie Organ :-)
  by Jillian K. Schultheis <organgeek@geocities.com>
Re: Erie Organ :-)
  by Jillian K. Schultheis <organgeek@geocities.com>
Re: Postlude showing off
  by Jillian K. Schultheis <organgeek@geocities.com>
Re: Postlude showing off
  by Glenda <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: T.O. Pipework facades? From: Steskinner@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 06:15:13 EST   In a message dated 98-01-30 22:36:59 EST, Kevin writes:   << My question is, why did people want to cover up the real pipes with fake ones anyway. >>   Our 1929 E. M. Skinner chancel facade is gorgeous, yet non-speaking. The architechtural style of the day saw a facade of long, slender pipes in a tall graceful facade. The only pipes that would fit the size would be gambas, and they belonged in the swell or solo division behind shades. I am still of the opnion that big pipes make a better facade--both from an acoustical and artistic perspective.   The new Schantz nave facade is made up of the 16' Pedal Principle, and the antiphonal gallery division is completely exposed, but what catches the eye are the 8' metal pipes and the brass en chamade.   Steven Skinner First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant Erie, PA  
(back) Subject: Re: Where are they now? From: "Charles E. Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 06:47:50 -0500   Joe...Interesting ti hear about the Awes. I know them really well back in the early 70's when they were both working for the Lowrey Organ Company. At the the time they, Jimmy Paulin, and myself were close friends. I was doing some playing at RCMH and at Surf City in New Jersey. We have lost touch over time. The theatre organ was still enjoying great popularity back then.   Charles E. Brown    
(back) Subject: Re: Erie Organ :-) From: SCoonrod@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 08:53:45 EST   In a message dated 98-02-02 06:18:42 EST, Steskinner@aol.com writes:   <<Our 1929 E. M. Skinner chancel facade is gorgeous>>   I was always curious about the 1st Pres/Covenant organ. It has a great specification. I am sure that typical of Schantz it is a great instrument. How'd they do blending the old & new pipework?   I just got several new CD's. I've always thought myself a die-hard E.M.S. fan, but one of the recordings is the Girard College organ. It is a fabulous organ to be sure...but I tend to prefer the Harrison Skinners. The E.M. organs just are not brilliant enough to suit my taste. I think St. John's in NYC was a good compromise with new Principals and chorus reeds, and keeping the great Skinner flutes, strings, orchestral reeds, et. al.   RandyT  
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd:] What's the word on the organ for the Mormon "Supernacle"? From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 08:33:41 -0600   Dear listers:   Please forgive the cross-posting, but I was asked by a friend who is not a subscriber to either list about this, and thought I had a better chance of obtaining information by including both lists.   Thanks for any anticipated information.   Faithfully,   "Arp" in the "Corn Patch" Richard Schneider mailto:arpncorn@dave-world.net     Subject: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:35:00 -0600 From: "McHarry, Hugh" <mcharry@acacorp.com> To: "'arpncorn@Dave-World.Net'" <arpncorn@Dave-World.Net>     > Would you go on the pipe organ chat line and ask what the hell is going > on in the "Supernacle" in Salt Lake City. All I know so far is that > there will be a pipe organ that cannot be finished by when the building > is completed in April of 2000 and that the place will hold 21,000. They > broke ground for the yet un-named building in July of 1996, it will be > largely underground with gardens on the roof, and will shaped like a > semi-circle.   > I curious as hell, and surely somebody out there knows what's going on.    
(back) Subject: Pipe Organ Company Office Manager/Administrative Assistant Position From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 08:47:17 -0600   Dear Listers,   Due to an increase in our work volume and projections of even more work for 1998, I am in the process of preparing to hire an Office Manager and wanted to respectfully request the indulgance of those on the list to whom this will have no interest while I pose two questions:   1) To those who are on this esteemed list who run pipe organ companies, I would be most appreciative if you could, via private EMAIL, share with me your experiences with such a position and what your salary histories have been.   2) While I currently have a potential candidate in mind that I have yet to interview in person, for the sake of fairness to everyone concerned, I thought I ought to make the list aware of this opening. Resumes' will be gladly received from anyone may be interested in this position at the following address: (NO PHONE CALLS PLEASE!!) Deadline is February 15, 1998.   Richard Schneider, President SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. 41-43 Johnston Street Post Office Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpncorn@dave-world.net EMAIL   Any questions by private EMAIL will be promptly responded to.   Thank you for the indulgent use of Bandwidth!    
(back) Subject: Shrove Tuesday organ concert From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:38:15 -0500       Shrove Tuesday, February 24, 8pm, Our Lady of the Angels Church, Rt. 9, West Main Street, Worcester MA, Peter Krasinski accompanying "the Hunchback of Notre Dame" silent movie with Lon Chaney, on the J.W. Walker tracker, 1985, 3 manuals, 56 ranks, largest Walker in North America, free admission. Snow date is March 3. For info. call 508-791-0951  
(back) Subject: Re: Another Moeller Question From: "Kevin.M.Simons-1" <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 10:16:24 -0600   Douglas A. Campbell wrote:   > > Dear Kevin, > Yes it does sound like a problem ! > > Where are you located? > > Douglas A. Campbell > Skaneateles, NY   I'm in Norman, OK, at the University of Oklahoma. The organ is at St. Thomas More, Catholic parish here in Norman. Does anyone know of a good tech in this area that isn't going to break the bank, but wouldn't mind working on a non-tracker instrument. All the tuners/techs I know don't want to touch anything that isn't tracker.   Kevin M. Simons  
(back) Subject: Re: Another Moeller Question From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:00:49 EST   Hello Kevin: I am astounded that there is an area in this country where organ techs will not work on any other than tracker.......For a man in the business for many many years,,,,,this is a revelation indeed. I would observe that the business has come full circle then,,,as when I started in the early 50's no one that I knew wanted to work on a tracker,,,unless it was tuning/voicing/regulating,,,,,   Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: ?? From: "Vincent" <vlefevere@unicall.be> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 11:53:35 +0100       ---------- > Van: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> > Aan: pipechat@pipechat.org > Onderwerp: ?? > Datum: zondag 1 februari 1998 23:07 >=20 > Wer ist Frau Kobelt? >=20 Frau Kobelt is die Lektorin unserer deutschspacherischen "Orgelnachrichte= n aus Flandern". Dieses zweimonatlichen Mitteilungblatt wird ausgegeben in Flaemisch, Franzoesisch und Deutch. Vincent lef=E8vre, secretaer des Verreins "Orgeln in Flandern"  
(back) Subject: Glue for wooden pipes From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:49:01 -0500   I have a box of small wooden old Casavant pipes, some of which have come apart due to dampness. What type of glue is best for repairs?   Judy Ollikkala e-mail 71431.2534@compuserve.com  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #226 - 01/30/98 From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:19:33 -0500   ..What's a trundel? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I've always called the horizontal tracker bars trundels. I've always alsos said, "I notice that there is a dead note. I think it's the trundel", and the organ tech knew JUST what to do.   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Postlude showing off From: "Jillian (Bach) Schultheis" <organgeek@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 15:51:55 -0500   > If I am going to show off, I do so during the postlude. The prelude and > hymns are for worship and to prepare oneself for the worship. > > Just a thought.   EXACTLY! I just can't stand it when and organist tries to bring glory to him/her self and not God. Most people go church not to hear the organ, but to worship. (Well, I do know a lot of people that go to church just to hear the organ, but that is beside the fact.) The church is a place of Godly worship, not organic worship! (but, hey, the organ helps a bit, too :))   Jill  
(back) Subject: Re: piston setting methods - was Another Moeller Question From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:40:59 -0500   >Most smaller Mollers used a mechanical or "trippper" type system. This >system >has a has a characterisic ka-CHUNG (using electric solenoid to >provide the >motive power to change the stops) >or ka - FLUMP (using air-blown pneumatics to provide the power to >change the >stops). It is possible that the Abington organ has an all-electric >(i.e. >solid-state) memory, or used an alternate form of combination storage >similar >to casavant and skinner consoles. Is it possible that the air-blown >mechanisms may have been replaced by a new system after the console >was >installed? that would explain the "set" piston. Moller used several >systems >of mechanical stop presets over the years, and since I have not seen >the >console there I obviously can't say what system is in use there. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Is there any diagrams of the the *ka-FLUMP* method? I'm interested in the pneumatic combination actions. Is there a book or diagrams someplace, or could someone describe them to me???????   Thanks in advance and Later Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil Fox From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 16:12:24 -0600   Charles E. Brown wrote: > > I was reading some of the postings about Virgil Fox. I was a student of his > and he was a very creative person. His sense of orchestralregistration > served as an influence for even Leopold Stowkowsky. > > He was also a visionary and saw the future in recording as well as crossover > concert performing. While I will grant that some of his later performances > went a bit over the top, his Bach performances from Riverside and Lincoln > Center were inspirational. > > I feel that more organist today are inspired then care to admit it. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     I admit it. I didn't want anything to do with Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor until I heard him play it. That and Air for the G String.   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Another Moeller Question From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 16:17:04 -0600   Douglas A. Campbell wrote: > > On Sun, 01 Feb 1998 21:14:08 -0600 "Kevin.M.Simons-1" > <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu> writes: > >Dear List, > > > >I did set it with the holding the piston in method, and it seems to be > >working. > >One other question about the crescendo pedal. It only seems to work > >properly when I have stops already on. When I have no stops on, it > >only > >works on one level, is that typical? > > Dear Kevin, > Yes it does sound like a problem ! > > Where are you located? > > Douglas A. Campbell > Skaneateles, NY     A problem? A PROBLEM?? I have seen organists that pump the pedal more then they play. That usually leads to some kind of malfunction around here. Why, just a while back the main pedal pumper in our church complained about a cresc. problem. I just have to wonder why. You might want to ask the tech if it could be from the organist, or if there is some other proplem. Ours was the organist (another one, not me), and we simply talked to her, she changed her method, and everything was fine (except the swell shades).   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: Re: T.O. Pipework facades? From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 16:18:16 -0600   Steskinner@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-01-30 22:36:59 EST, Kevin writes: > > << My question is, why did people want to cover up the real pipes with fake > ones anyway. >> > > Our 1929 E. M. Skinner chancel facade is gorgeous, yet non-speaking. The > architechtural style of the day saw a facade of long, slender pipes in a tall > graceful facade. The only pipes that would fit the size would be gambas, and > they belonged in the swell or solo division behind shades. I am still of the > opnion that big pipes make a better facade--both from an acoustical and > artistic perspective. > > The new Schantz nave facade is made up of the 16' Pedal Principle, and the > antiphonal gallery division is completely exposed, but what catches the eye > are the 8' metal pipes and the brass en chamade. > > Steven Skinner > First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant > Erie, PA   I dislike non-working facades. But, when they or working facades are there, I like big pipes better too.   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Another Moeller Question From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 16:19:09 -0600   Kevin.M.Simons-1 wrote: > > Douglas A. Campbell wrote: > > > > > Dear Kevin, > > Yes it does sound like a problem ! > > > > Where are you located? > > > > Douglas A. Campbell > > Skaneateles, NY > > I'm in Norman, OK, at the University of Oklahoma. The organ is at St. > Thomas More, Catholic parish here in Norman. Does anyone know of a good > tech in this area that isn't going to break the bank, but wouldn't mind > working on a non-tracker instrument. All the tuners/techs I know don't > want to touch anything that isn't tracker. > > Kevin M. Simons   That's funny. No one around here wants to work on a tracker.   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Postlude showing off From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 16:27:56 -0600   Jillian (Bach) Schultheis wrote: > > > If I am going to show off, I do so during the postlude. The prelude and > > hymns are for worship and to prepare oneself for the worship. > > > > Just a thought. > > EXACTLY! I just can't stand it when and organist tries to bring glory to > him/her self and not God. Most people go church not to hear the organ, > but to worship. (Well, I do know a lot of people that go to church just > to hear the organ, but that is beside the fact.) The church is a place > of Godly worship, not organic worship! (but, hey, the organ helps a bit, > too :)) > > Jill   When I play something "big and complicated," I do it for the church, not myself. People can't even see the organist unless he or she gets up from the console, and that only happens to go to the piano and back during prayers. There have been a few Sundays when I have felt completely out of it, and church was the last thing on my mind, but that organ made me want to go. But, most of the time I go for the right reasons (especially if I have to play that day or fill in for the main organist).   For now,   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #226 - 01/30/98 From: Ken <mewzishn@spec.net> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 17:31:07 +0000   Jason D. Comet wrote:   > I've always called the horizontal tracker bars trundels. I've always > alsos said, "I notice that there is a dead note. I think it's the > trundel", and the organ tech knew JUST what to do.   I believe you're referring to the rollerboard, which is the part of a mechanical action which is used provide horizontal "movement" to what is essentially the vertical motion from key to pallet. There are also horizontal tracker runs, such as when a console is detached or key motion must be communicated to a gallery rail-placed division.   Has anyone ever attempted a rollerboard-like action for such front-to-back transmissions of key motion?   Ken Sybesma        
(back) Subject: Re: Where are they now? From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 14:55:51 -0800   At 18:55 2/1/98 EST, ScottFop@aol.com wrote: > Avenue Theatre still exist in San Francisco. radio Not sure about the theatre but I heard that the organ was removed >long ago and reinstalled elsewhere.   Theatre building is now store/offices     Regards,   Bob        
(back) Subject: Re: Postlude showing off From: Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire <stops@globalnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 23:08:57 GMT   BIG SNIP >> If I am going to show off, I do so during the postlude. > >EXACTLY! I just can't stand it when and organist tries to bring glory to >him/her self and not God. > >Jill > Who bestowed the talent upon the organist in the first place??????? Surely 'twas 'God' in one of his many forms!!   Should not the organist glory in the fact that s/he has been blessed with this marvelous talent.   Does the organist not demonstrate the talent bestowed by 'God' upon the organbuilder when s/he plays a difficult piece of music written by an equally blessed composer????   It's not their combined fault if the listener is not blessed with the talent to appreciate!!   Larry    
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil Fox From: "Charles E. Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:57:36 -0500   Kevin:   Thank you for your posting. He inspired me and gave me a great many insights into the music of Bach. His sense of orchestration was amazing. I was just looking at some his notes for the T & F in d and the registrations of incredibly complex.   In his recording of Bach from Riverside he masterfully weaves voices in the 6th trio sonata and every stop is shown off in solo in the NY Philharmonic Hall recording of the Pasacaglia.   Charlie    
(back) Subject: Re: Postlude showing off From: "Charles E. Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 20:02:32 -0500   Larry:   The purpose of the postlude is not to show off but to augment the feelings of the liturgy and/or church year. Many is the day that I do a quiet postlude for meditation. The music is just a tool for the liturgy.   Charlie    
(back) Subject: Re: Postlude showing off From: Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 20:11:55 -0500   Charles E. Brown wrote: > Many is the day that I do a quiet > postlude for meditation. The music is just a tool for the liturgy. >   ---> How very true! I have to admit I find it a bit(!) jarring to have an organist do some bombastic piece of music as postlude to a choral evensong, just becuase he is guesting at some great instrument...   Otto  
(back) Subject: Re: Postlude showing off From: Jim H <BALD1@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:38:35 -0500   Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire wrote: > > BIG SNIP > >> If I am going to show off, I do so during the postlude. > > > >EXACTLY! I just can't stand it when and organist tries to bring glory to > >him/her self and not God. > > > >Jill > > > Who bestowed the talent upon the organist in the first place??????? Surely > 'twas 'God' in one of his many forms!! > > > Larry > I agree with you to a point Larry. But, your talent, when used in the worship service, must be used to enhance that service not take away from it.   In other words, learn your congregation and alter your playing to get the best response from them. Yes, there will always be a few that do not like whatever you do. But, they will not have that much effect on the congregational singing. But, when the playing gets to the point that it does effect the singing, it is time to take note.   I am not saying that you should not play a well written piece for preludes. I often use Bach and the Luerenberg Collection for preludes. But, there are also a good number of parishioners who like simple hymns. So, I mix it up and play the hymns, as well. I may play them as written or add something to them, but the melody line is distinct. This seems to keep everyone happy.   I also keep it within the church season. In other words, I am not going to use trumpets and a loud fanfare during lent. On the other hand. I will use more upbeat music for Christmas, Easter and during the Trinity season.   My whole point is that we often forget why we were placed in our respective positions. We must remember that. Use your talents to the best of your abilities, but do not do so to the extent that you take away from the worship of others.   Jim H. > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil Fox From: Jim H <BALD1@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:41:05 -0500   Kevin Cartwright wrote: > > Charles E. Brown wrote: > > > > I was reading some of the postings about Virgil Fox. I was a student of his > > > > C > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > I admit it. I didn't want anything to do with Tocatta and Fugue in D > Minor until I heard him play it. That and Air for the G String. > > Kevin C. > kevin1@alaweb.com > He could flat play them. You ought to listen to Bach: Great Organ Works with Virgil Fox. He plays the Riverside organ and the one at The Royal Albert Hall. Fantastic.   Jim > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Erie Organ :-) From: "Jillian K. Schultheis" <organgeek@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 20:46:02 -0500   The facade on that organ is wonderful... it is just so simple that it catches the eye. Actually, I have about 5 pictures of the organ and it's pipework in my locker at school! :) (heh, isn't that funny, and no pictures of my friends!)   Jill  
(back) Subject: Re: Erie Organ :-) From: "Jillian K. Schultheis" <organgeek@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 20:56:09 -0500   The facade on that organ is wonderful... it is just so simple that it catches the eye. Actually, I have about 5 pictures of the organ and it's pipework in my locker at school! :) (heh, isn't that funny, and no pictures of my friends!)   Jill  
(back) Subject: Re: Postlude showing off From: "Jillian K. Schultheis" <organgeek@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 20:55:57 -0500   No, I am not saying that.... I am simply saying that it is, as you put it, "'God'" that the organist must please, not himself. It is okay to use different harmonizations for hymns, of course. It is just when s/he slaps on the full organ and drowns out the congregation that s/he is being self-glorifing. That's all....   Jill  
(back) Subject: Re: Postlude showing off From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:58:24 -0800   > My whole point is that we often forget why we were placed in our > respective positions. We must remember that. Use your talents to the > best of your abilities, but do not do so to the extent that you take > away from the worship of others. > > Jim H.   Very well said, Jim (I know this is a long line of people patting each other on the back, but just wanted to get in on it - you said what I was thinking).   Glenda Sutton