PipeChat Digest #262 - Saturday, February 21, 1998
 
Re: Registration HELP
  by Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Organs Continued
  by Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Organ {Dead or Alive}
  by Richard Wolf <floww@webtv.net>
Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This!
  by <SCoonrod@aol.com>
A position at last!
  by Kevin M. Simons <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu>
Re: Organ {Dead or Alive}
  by Judy A. Ollikkala <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This!
  by Richard Wolf <floww@webtv.net>
Re: Organs Continued
  by Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: A position at last!
  by Frank Johnson <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
Re: JUST BE GLAD YOU CAN PLAY, DARN IT!!!
  by <OrgTek61n@aol.com>
Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This!
  by Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net>
Re: Organ {Dead or Alive}
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Organ-Dead or Alive
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This!
  by <SCoonrod@aol.com>
Re: JUST BE GLAD YOU CAN PLAY, DARN IT!!!
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Organs Continued
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Slider Chests & Roll Crank Windows
  by <SCoonrod@aol.com>
Re: To Bob Conway/Bread
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This!
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This!
  by <SCoonrod@aol.com>
Re: Organ {Dead or Alive}
  by Ken <mewzishn@spec.net>
Re: To Bob Conway/Bread
  by Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This!
  by Ken <mewzishn@spec.net>
Re: A position at last!
  by Patricia R. Maimone <patmai@juno.com>
Peragallo Pipe Organ Concert - NYS - Feb 22 (Cross Post)
  by Patricia R. Maimone <patmai@juno.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Registration HELP From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 20:49:39 -0600   Simple, use everything harsh and loud for a trumpet tune, and everything soft for a cantata tune. No, I really don't have an answer. I'm still trying to develop the art of being able to play the same thing in the same style on different organs (I don't have a nice traveling skill yet). But, I do have a Trompette out-of-tune! (tee hee hee)   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com   I have been having trouble checking e-mails lately, so I recieve and send in large clumps. Sorry for any redundancies. (sp?)   Ruth Bird wrote: > > (I have tried to send this twice before, but I never received it back through the group, so I do not think it went through, if it did sorry for the re posts.) > > Hi, I have 2 pieces of music that I need help with. Maybe someone would be so very kind as to give me an opinion on registrations. One is a trumpet voluntary type tune, the other soft cantata type of tune. > I used to have a "regular" type of organ, and I would be very happy for your help. > Thanks, Ruth > Baldwin Classic Series---Digital Church Organ > Greeat Swell Pedal > swell to great tremelo swell to pedal > tremelo clarion 4 great to pedal > trumpet 8 oboe regal 4 > mixture lV fagott bombarde 16 > quint 1 1/3 sharf lll octave 4 > super octave 2 flautino 2 bourdon 8 > roh flote 4 nazard 2 2/3 principal 8 > octave 4 gedeckt sub-bass 16 > geteckt 8 viole celeste > principal 8 viola 8 > montre 16 bourdon 8 > > voice varation > automatic pedal  
(back) Subject: Re: Organs Continued From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:00:15 -0600   Shirley wrote: > > >Take heed from current popular music: the only way kids (and older folk) can > >find the beat anymore is with heavy assistance from thumping basses and heavy > >drumwork. Remember, the vast majority of our population's musical talent is > >limited to turning on their radios and CD players. > > I was in a school talent show in ninth grade. The organ was on loan from > one of the English teachers. I played show tunes on the organ, even though > it was a "straight" instrument (as opposed to a "curved" one:) ). Did my > TO thang. > > And I won first place in the classical division.......... <<sigh>> > > I didn't argue. :) > > The school district where I live is very strong in instrumental music. And > it boasts a high level of education here, with standardized test results > consistently higher at all levels than the national norm. Does music > intellect and IQ go hand in hand? I'm thinking we're all more intelligent > people than the average.... We don't settle for mediocrity.... > > --Shirley   Most of us are smart. I maintain an A average (most of the time) in school. The only band members who stay the entire four years are those who are also as well in acedemics as they are musically (meaning they are very competant in both fields). The Scholar's Bowl team is about 40% band or musically related students. The BETA club is almost like a band/choral meeting, etc... I have watched the "dummies" try, but they give up at some time or another. I the same way with sports! We "smarties" try, but give up some time or another at something ruled by idiots; of course, that is MY high school's sports, not all adult sports are included in that category. I think what gets me the most is when a football/anything else coach teaches during the off-season, and he doesn't know ANYTHING about what he's saying (I'll just use the stereotype of 'he'). He teaches from the book as well as tests from the book. Those are always the hardest classes because if you actually give a care, you have to do everything on your own in order to pass.   Anyway,   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ {Dead or Alive} From: floww@webtv.net (Richard Wolf) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:05:06 -0600   Shirley   I share with you the love of the Kimball pipe organs. I cut my eye teeth as you say on a church 3m Kimball that was rebuilt by Wangerin-Weickardt of Milwaukee.It had a 16' reed that would straighten the curl in your hair. In fact that organ got me hooked when my symphony and choir director asked me if I would like to try it out. There is another Kimball that I inquired about but never received any answers. I finally found out the status by some circuitous surfing the web. It was the Kimball in the Minneapolis Auditorium. It is a two in one instrument. It has a 5/m classic console and a 4/m theatre console and over 10,000 pipes. It was to be moved into a new center but fell prey to an incompetant mess involving the finances, supervision of rebuilder who served some jail time because of the situation. My acquired information finds that it is safely in storage awaiting a new location. Pipe Dreams played a recording of the farewell performance on the organ before being removed. There were various soloists including Hector Olivera playing the Jongen Symphonie Concertante[spelling??]   Dick  
(back) Subject: Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This! From: SCoonrod@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 22:15:06 EST   Well all you guys and gals out there, I have finally had to put my foot down and "JUST SAY NO" to the latest request by my Priest. I have learned to love the renewal songs during Communion and the improvisational time it provides me and my piano playing cohort, Sally, but wait till you hear this:   We are having a "3 Minute Rule" during Lent. Following the dismissal (Episcopal Church) folks are supposed to stay in the nave for three minutes and visit with folks they do not know well....So, uh, this is OK so far, right? The priest wants me to play for these 3 minutes, on the Chimes, the THEME FROM JEPAORDY. Besides being totally out of character with Rite I and Lent, it is just **** tacky. I told the choir director I would under no circumstances play this, so we will see if I still have a job a week from now! I will keep you all posted. (I really am not the stuck-up snobby type, either, in case you are thinking that!)   RandyT  
(back) Subject: A position at last! From: "Kevin M. Simons" <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:11:38 -0600   Howdy List,   I had to share my excitement with the list, so excuse my exuberance!   First things first. Richard Schneider came to check over the organ at St. Thomas More here in Norman and fixed some things up for me. I couldn't be more grateful, and its sounding good.   Secondly, I became the official organist at St. Thomas More this afternoon! I start the first Sunday of Lent (OY! What a time to start). I'm thrilled and excited about all the possibilities and opportunities I'll have. Thank you all for your encouragement and help over the years. It is much appreciated. Be assured, there will probably be many more questions from this neck of the woods in the weeks and months to come!   Kevin M. Simons Organist, St. Thomas More Catholic Church Norman, Oklahoma   (Gee, I just love putting that in my signature!)  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ {Dead or Alive} From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 22:17:32 -0500   Shirley, we have in the Worcester MA Memorial Auditorium, now called the AUD, a 4 manual 1933 concert Kimball. It is used occasionally, but needs much restoration work so I guess you'd call it unhealthy. Its days may be limited though, the city fathers want to turn the huge building into a juvenile courthouse. But they just gave it a reprieve by signing off another 18 month lease contract to the commercial company which holds mostly rock concerts there. Interestingly enough, Mechanics Hall, the Great Hall where there is an 1864 restored 4 manual Hook tracker, is closed for repairs to a stress beam above the ceiling, so the Berlin and BBC Symphonies, plus several other musical events, have been relocated to the AUD, where they can accomodate more people, and where these concerts used to be held before Mechanics Hall was restored in 1982. Both of these fine organs have OHS citation plaques, and are rarely used, plus the 1942 Aeolian-Skinner in the Worcester Art Museum, dedicated by Joseph Bonnet, which also has an OHS plaque, hasn't been used since 1992.  
(back) Subject: Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This! From: floww@webtv.net (Richard Wolf) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:23:33 -0600   You've got to be kidding--- This guy's elevator doesn't go alway to the top. Next he'll be asking for "High Noon" if that's when the service is over.   Dick  
(back) Subject: Re: Organs Continued From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:00:17 -0800   At 19:20 2/20/98, you wrote: >Does music intellect and IQ go hand in hand? I'm thinking we're all more >intelligent people than the average.... We don't settle for >mediocrity.... > > --Shirley   I agree, Shirley. I think that only people of intellect have the tenacity to stay at an instrument with a 'learning curve' like the organ. Those who don't have 'stick-to-it-ivity' would lose interest quickly.     Regards,   Bob        
(back) Subject: Re: A position at last! From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:29:36 -0600   >Secondly, I became the official organist at St. Thomas More this >afternoon! I start the first Sunday of Lent (OY! What a time to >start).   Kevin....CONGRATULATIONS! I'm really excited for you. I'm the man from Winfield, Kansas who talked about the Kilgen organ in the Oklahoma City auditorium.   Keep me posted on how things are going.   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: JUST BE GLAD YOU CAN PLAY, DARN IT!!! From: OrgTek61n@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 22:34:47 EST   Just want to say BRAVO said the way I would like to hear it . My hat off too you John. Keep it up! Thanks , Rod  
(back) Subject: Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This! From: Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 22:42:22 -0500   SCoonrod@aol.com wrote:   ....The priest wants me to play for these 3 minutes, on the Chimes, the > THEME FROM JEPAORDY.   ---> Let me guess; the priest has been hitting the sacramental a little heavy???  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ {Dead or Alive} From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 22:49:53 -0500   Perhaps one really great way for the organ to be made acceptable to young people is for AGO chapters and parishes with concert series to feature some young artists. The Young Artist's Cooperative, which, I believe, concentrates on budding new artists would be a great resource for exciting recitalist. Back "a few years" when Christopher Young had just emerged from winning the national (i think?) competition, he played for my local AGO chapter. It was an incredible program, exciting playing, and we were all boggled when he told us that he had been in a rock band. It showed in his playing of the Bolcam "What a Friend". If young people could see and hear young people (really young people) playing wonderfully exciting programs, I believe their interest would increase.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ-Dead or Alive From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 22:55:54 -0500   Karen, One thing you can do when you come up against an architect of this ilk, is check with some of the churches which he has built and inflicted this mindset upon. It is very possible that you might find some very dissatisfied people. I was in a church at one time that had been bamboozled on several fronts by an architect whose first church building was theirs, and believe me, he never brough prospective clients there when there were staff members around. You may be able to deflate the windbag and save your church alot of grief and money. Remember..... gentle as a lamb and cunning as a fox!   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This! From: SCoonrod@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:27:09 EST   In a message dated 98-02-20 22:50:52 EST, opebwrth@gte.net writes:   << THEME FROM JEPAORDY. >>   Well, his intention is for there to be something "different" I guess I could dong the chimes once a minute for three minutes, or the tower bell could be tolled for three minutes......   This guy's father is a well known Ep. Priest in our Diocese (AL) and his brother is at the big charismatic Ep. Church in Pawley's Island, so he isn't really into traditional music all that much. Actually he has done wonders for our Parish---turning a formerly blue-blood only stodgy parish into a true Spirit-filled one where the worship is really meaningful. I improvise most of the organ music, We do three traditional hymns, the choir sings a variety of mostly quality music <not much traditional Anglican fare, though :( > and pipe organ and nice Yamaha Grand join in on improvised accompaniments to renewal songs during communion. I haven't found anything that has been requested of me (even though I prefer a "higher" worship style) to be all that out of place within the context of where HE is, but this just don't make sense.....and I am NOT gonna do it. I really wonder how this will work...and I am sure I will find out!   Thanks for the support!   RandyT  
(back) Subject: Re: JUST BE GLAD YOU CAN PLAY, DARN IT!!! From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:27:46 -0500   John, Got a kick outta your post. I, too, miss those huge truck horns that almost roll my Chevette off the road. I, too, love the simple things in life like stick shift, tracker action, manual steering, slider chests, roll crank windows, etc. Music and driving are much more fun for me when I ge to do stuff for myself.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Organs Continued From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:36:30 -0500   Interesting concept, Roger. Play what the listeners want to hear. I have had three experiences with this recenty. Two involved spiritual hymns, "Precious Lord, Take My Hand" and "Soon and Very Soon" which were used in worship recently. I played them as bluesy and slow jazzy as I possibly could; not only were there NO complaints, but the congregation sang unbelievably well and several people came up afterward and said, "I didn't know an organ could do that." (I guess at this point I should confess that it was FUUUUUUUUUN!). The other time was when we sang an interesting new contemporary song, "Sing of the Lord's Goodness", which is written in 5/4. I used it as the seed for my prelude/improvisation. I let go and had fun with it. The congregation was quiet and then sang the hymn pretty well (they've almost got it). I must confess that my Christmas experiment with Mannheim Steamroller was unsuccessful. The music was sooooooo boring and soooooooooooo long. I didn't have enough time to cut them down to size. Maybe next year. But your point is good about being more crowd pleasing.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Slider Chests & Roll Crank Windows From: SCoonrod@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:41:21 EST   In a message dated 98-02-20 23:34:17 EST, cremona84000@webtv.net writes: << I, too, love the simple thingsin life like stick shift, tracker action,slider chests, roll crank windows, etc. Music and driving are much more fun for me when I get to do stuff for myself. >>   Well feller, I'll keep my power windows, seats, door locks, etc.... Thank you very much!   Randy  
(back) Subject: Re: To Bob Conway/Bread From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:47:21 -0500   Hey! No fair. Meat loaf posts are off topic unless you send everyone a slice. (I prefer the end--"you are what you eat" heh heh)   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This! From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 00:00:29 -0500   Randy, Maybe you should go ahead an play it, and when the complaints come in tell them at whose direction you are doing it. Maybe HE will have a new job the following week. heh heh   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This! From: SCoonrod@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 00:14:35 EST   In a message dated 98-02-21 00:03:37 EST, cremona84000@webtv.net writes:   << Randy, Maybe you should go ahead an play it, and when the complaints come in tell them at whose direction you are doing it. Maybe HE will have a new job the following week. heh heh >> Well Bruce, I hadn't thought of it this way. I know I told y'all I wouldn't play this, but I guess if one's income is important to one, one (I) will play it, however inappropriate the THEME FROM JEPAORDY is.   R.  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ {Dead or Alive} From: Ken <mewzishn@spec.net> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 00:26:48 +0000   Kevin Cartwright wrote:   > "Raising of the Cross" ceremony instead of the piano at Easter   You raise a cross at Easter? What do you do on Good Friday?   Ken Sybesma        
(back) Subject: Re: To Bob Conway/Bread From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:41:04 -0800   At 23:47 2/20/98 -0500, bruce cornely wrote: >Hey! No fair. Meat loaf posts are off topic unless you send everyone >a slice. (I prefer the end--"you are what you eat" heh heh) >   Hmmmm. "you are what you eat"? remember that next time you eat TURKEY... (heh heh)       Regards,   Bob        
(back) Subject: Re: LENTEN POSTLUDE--Get This! From: Ken <mewzishn@spec.net> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 01:04:17 +0000   SCoonrod@aol.com wrote:   > The priest wants me to play for these 3 minutes, on the Chimes, the > THEME FROM JEPAORDY. Besides being totally out of character with Rite > I and > Lent, it is just **** tacky.   On the chimes? Oy! And doesn't that theme only last 30 seconds or so? maybe a minute? you'd have to play it at least three times through. What goes through some priests' minds?! Oh my!   Ken Sybesma        
(back) Subject: Re: A position at last! From: patmai@juno.com (Patricia R. Maimone) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:54:55 -0500   Dear Kevin,   Congratulations! All the best to you in your new position! Thanks for sharing your good news with the Pipechat list.   Pat Maimone   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Peragallo Pipe Organ Concert - NYS - Feb 22 (Cross Post) From: patmai@juno.com (Patricia R. Maimone) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 01:11:14 -0500   Dear Pipechatters: I do not remember seeing Robert Stang's other list post about the Peragallo organ recital Sunday, February 22 at 3 PM in Poughkeepsie, NY, posted in this forum, so here goes:   Jimrae Lenser is Dean of our Central Hudson Valley Chapter of the AGO; I would be remiss if I did not share with you some information about the dedicatory recital Sunday, February 22 at 3 PM.   Holy Trinity Roman Catholic Church 775 Main Street Poughkeepsie, New York church - 914-452-1863   It is my understanding that the trompette en chamade has been placed above the altar. I am interested to see and hear that effect.   According to the publicity flyer, which mentions The Rev. Joseph P. La Morte, Pastor, in addition to organist Jimrae Lenser, Director of Music Ministries, the concert will feature the Adult Choir, the Folk Group, the Children's Chorus and instrumentalists.   A reception follows the concert. All are welcome.   Further info re program or directions: Dean Lenser 914-566-0724   Pat Maimone SubDean, Central Hudson Valley chapter AGO <patmai@juno.com> at home <yp6867@sunams.usma.army.mil> at work     _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]