PipeChat Digest #275 - Friday, February 27, 1998 LenternPrelude + British Comody + Howard Goodall by Duncan Charig <email@example.com> Re:UMC hymnal(was: Funny hymn references) by Jonathan M Orwig <firstname.lastname@example.org> accompanists(was: An organist once again) by Jonathan M Orwig <email@example.com> Lift High the Cross by Kurt Kehler <firstname.lastname@example.org>
(back) Subject: LenternPrelude + British Comody + Howard Goodall From: Duncan Charig <email@example.com> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:39:16 +1100 In case you are wondering how the disparate items in the subject heading = can possibly relate, let me explain. A British Comedy (just coming up = for it's second season in Australia), The Vicar of Dibley, has highly = attractive opening and closing music by Howard Goodall. Although this is = mostly choral it could no doubt be arranged into an organ prelude. Duncan Charig Part-time Organist Soldiers & Miners Anglican Church, Mt Kembla Director, Kembla Correspondence College.
(back) Subject: Re:UMC hymnal(was: Funny hymn references) From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Jonathan M Orwig) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:56:16 -0800 On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 23:19:28 -0800 "email@example.com" <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes: > While the UMC did not tamper with these >particular words, they tampered with enough of them IMHO. What I have >never understood is why the UMC felt it necessary to include SPANISH >hymns, and translations of some (notably Amazing Grace) into half a >dozen Indian dialects, etc. etc. etc. I never got it either! I think there is a contingent in the UMC that thinks we should embrace elements of worship from all of the world cultures - which is a noble idea, but hardly implementable. Making your church sing a Chinese hymn (or one from some other culture) makes about as much sense as the missionaries that erraneously forced WESTERN STYLE worship music on every culture they encountered, rather than encouraging them to write new music in the styles they were accustomed to. > No Indian or Spaniard worth his salt is going to spend $20 for a >big fat hymnal that contains only a few hymns in their own language. If >the UMC wanted to accomodate these folks with an entire hymnal of Spanish >Hymns or Indian Hymns, that's another kettle of fish entirely. But to >sprinkle them through a hymnal for English speaking people makes no >sense whatever to me. > And I get really irked at the revisions to be politically correct. >As >for myself, I have no problem with God being my FATHER and references >to HIM and HIS. But then I'm not a militant feminist. I say if we're >going to use someone's poetry, then let's use it as they wrote it. >People who strain at such gnats are demonstrating their own >insecurity. Hear, hear! God must weep at the petty issues we stumble over. Far too much time and energy has been expended on this issue when we could have been actually helping people who need help. Jesus came to this world to help people - and you will remember he offended quite a number of folks in his day.... in fact, so much so that they nailed him to a Roman cross..... Inclusive language and political correctness kinda pales in comparison, doesn't it....? > Jonathan Orwig Bethany Church, Redlands, CA Evensong Music, Media and Graphics - Organ, Keyboard & Choral Music http://members.aol.com/Evnsong/pgone.html > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
(back) Subject: accompanists(was: An organist once again) From: email@example.com (Jonathan M Orwig) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 23:16:12 -0800 On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 15:10:10 -0500 firstname.lastname@example.org (bruce cornely) writes: >Jonathan, >May I offer an alternative for you regarding hiring an accompanist for >anthems. Whenever I have a difficult accompaniment that is one of >the >one's that I really want to play, so I get someone to direct. I have >already taught the choir how I want them to sing the piece, they know >the nuances, etc, and really all they need is someone to keep them >together, and often you can find someone in the choir who can direct >and >sing, not to mention you save money and your sub-director doesn't run >out substituting, plus is available on festivals. > > bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o > ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o > Weeelll, I don't really like to conduct from the console - I much prefer standing in front of 'em - and unlike you, I don't have the technique to play the really hard stuff right now. Maybe in a couple of years when my chops are back up I'll feel different. Add to that the fact that I have a stellar accompanist in mind already.... Someday I want to find a position where I can just be an assistant director and an organist - I enjoy my position as the Minister of Music, but sometimes I wish someone else had all the headaches and buck-stopping duties. I left an asst. position to come here - thinking I would enjoy having my own program and picking my own music.. you know all that goes along with directing a music program.... I find I remember much more fulfillment in supporting and helping someone else - just showing up, doing what is asked of me and offering occasional ideas and innovations. That is why I have chosen to resume lessons - in hopes that I can improve my abilities to the point that I could JUST be an organist Cheers, **************** Jonathan Orwig Bethany Church, Redlands, CA Evensong Music, Media and Graphics - Organ, Keyboard & Choral Music http://members.aol.com/Evnsong/pgone.htm _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
(back) Subject: Lift High the Cross From: "Kurt Kehler" <email@example.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 03:34:18 -0500 On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 00:06:44 -0500, Wildhirt, Richard wrote: >Just make sure it's followed up with "Lift High the Cross" on Easter >morning. Great idea. I never thought of using "Lift High the Cross" on Easter. I had associated it _only_ with Christ the King, and some occasional uses. I will try it. What else am I overlooking? Thank you Richard, Kurt Kehler (Raised on the Lutheran Service Book and Hymnal, currently struggling with GIA's Gather Comprehensive)