PipeChat Digest #196 - Monday, January 12, 1998
 
Re: Tape (and a comment on DO vs. PO)
  by Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: DO vs PO (Same song, 414th verse)
  by Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: Duct tape again!!
  by Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net>
re: swell boxes and swell pedals
  by Jon C. Habermaas <joncharles@ameritech.net>
Interesting Oboe Horn?
  by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com>
Re: swell boxes and swell pedals
  by Glenda <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
What's in an enchamade name?
  by ManderUSA <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: Interesting Oboe Horn?
  by Prestant16 <Prestant16@aol.com>
Re: Interesting Oboe Horn?
  by MFulk70776 <MFulk70776@aol.com>
Re: Interesting Oboe Horn?
  by Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net>
IRC-chats
  by TM LAMMERS <T.Lammers@fontys.nl>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Tape (and a comment on DO vs. PO) From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 07:25:28 -0800   At 14:45 1/10/98 -0600, Kevin Cartwright wrote: >Kevin C., who believes a pipe organ can blow away a digital any day. >Kevin1@alaweb.com >   Kevin: You're not the only one who believes that. I had a chance to buy a nice digital TO, but the price tag was a little high ($50K+), so yesterday, I bought a Morton Photoplayer, 2m/3rk. Real pipe sound, from real pipes, and the price tag was MUCH lower ($300)...     Regards,   Bob        
(back) Subject: Re: DO vs PO (Same song, 414th verse) From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 07:41:16 -0800   At 18:56 1/10/98 EST, Giwro wrote: >In a message dated 98-01-10 17:08:56 EST, you write: > ><< What's a partyhorn? One of those things people blow into on New Year's >Eve? >> > > >Well, I have heard several different names for Chamade reeds/high pressure >solo reeds - Partyhorn, Yellow-bellied Sapsucker (the kind that rob so much >wind the rest of the WP sags ;-P ) Diesel Horn, Honker, Trumpet of Jesus - I >think that is what Bruce means, isn't it? Anyone else hear/know of creative >nicknames like the above?   I don't know about church organs, but I DID install one of those 'new years eve' type horns in the Morton TO I played in a pizza place. Gave the other organist a real thrill when she pressed the 'Bird Whistle' button...     Regards,   Bob        
(back) Subject: Re: Duct tape again!! From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 07:47:36 -0800   At 20:19 1/10/98 -0500, JILLIAN SCHULTHEIS wrote: >Kevin, > > Well, I just had an incident about 3 months ago tuning the organ at my >church. The guy (or, should I say FREAK) that installed the thing put >DUCT TAPE over the mouth of a 4' flute, and put it in the String Celeste >rank! :| And he also used aluminum foil in the Melodia! I find   I once was called to tune an organ I'd never been in, and when going to tune the 'Oboe Horn' stop, I found that it was an ordinary Organ-type oboe, which had been "revoiced" by having discs cut from thin plywood placed over the tops of the resonators and held in place with friction tape! Not pretty, either to see or to hear!     Regards,   Bob        
(back) Subject: re: swell boxes and swell pedals From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <joncharles@ameritech.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:25:46 -0600   There has been alot of discussion on the other list about swell boxes and the pro and cons of organ expression. During the discussion the subject of organists pumping the swell pedal came up. This reminded of an amusing anecdote from my days working for a local organ service company (back in the days when a living wage and raising a family was not a major concern) We went out on a service call where the organist complained that the organ roared at her for no apparent reason. After checking everything and finding nothing wrong we asked her to demonstrate the problem and within a few bars the organ did indeed roar. The organist was definately a swell pedal pumper but this time she was pumping the crescendo pedal. That experience ranks right up there with the tuning the radiator service call. My boss was in his seventies and did not make regular service calls..there was a father and son team who did all the routine tuning and servicing calls. There was one church that had the same organist for years and she believed no one could tune an organ properly other than my boss. If she was there when the tuners came she would invariably call back and complain that the organ wasn't right. On one of these occasions my boss called the church back and said that he would be out that afternoon and please have the organist there to show him the problems. When we arrived she was there and thrilled that he had come. He introduced me as a young fella just learning the trade and that he would take me into the chamber to show me what he was doing. He instructed me to bring a hammer from the tool grip and up we went. He asked her to find an offending pipe and hold the key on while he adjusted it. Just outside the chamber door was a large cast iron radiator. Whenever she found an offending note he would tell me to whack the radiator with the hammer. "How is it now?" he asked. "Perfect Mr. Wentz" she replied. After a dozen whacks on the radiator she was satisfied that the organ never sounded better and that is how I learned to tune a radiator...true story.   regards,   Jon C. Habermaas  
(back) Subject: Interesting Oboe Horn? From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:46:57 EST   In a message dated 98-01-11 11:06:06 EST, you write:   << once was called to tune an organ I'd never been in, and when going to tune the 'Oboe Horn' stop, I found that it was an ordinary Organ-type oboe, which had been "revoiced" by having discs cut from thin plywood placed over the tops of the resonators and held in place with friction tape! Not pretty, either to see or to hear! >>   Had it been built that way by a builder on acid? Or had it been modified by a rebuilder on acid?  
(back) Subject: Re: swell boxes and swell pedals From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:25:51 -0800   To Jon C. Habermaas - that was the best story I've heard in months - I howled with laughter!   Glenda Sutton      
(back) Subject: What's in an enchamade name? From: ManderUSA <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:30:07 EST   In a message dated 98-01-10 19:15:56 EST, Jonathan Orwig writes:   << Well, I have heard several different names for Chamade reeds/high pressure solo reeds - Partyhorn, Yellow-bellied Sapsucker (the kind that rob so much wind the rest of the WP sags ;-P ) Diesel Horn, Honker, Trumpet of Jesus - I think that is what Bruce means, isn't it? Anyone else hear/know of creative nicknames like the above? >>   The enchamade reed on the west wall of the Princeton University Chapel was our gift to the university. You will, of course, all know that the Princeton University football team (it is football, isn't it?) is called the Tigers. The university, or some of its committee members, at least, wanted this reed to be called Tiger Trumpet. Meeting our objections, and those of others, French was tried, but Trompette de Tigre did not offer much of an improvement, and nor did Latin. It sounds every bit as fine, bearing the name Gallery Trumpet!   Post post church nap,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Interesting Oboe Horn? From: Prestant16 <Prestant16@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:28:58 EST   You should re-labeled the stop as "8' Flugel Horn d'Plywood"  
(back) Subject: Re: Interesting Oboe Horn? From: MFulk70776 <MFulk70776@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:17:50 EST   In a message dated 98-01-11 20:08:43 EST, you write:   << Had it been built that way by a builder on acid? Or had it been modified by a rebuilder on acid? >> Does "acid" equal LSD???  
(back) Subject: Re: Interesting Oboe Horn? From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:16:42 -0800   At 19:46 1/11/98 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-01-11 11:06:06 EST, you write: ><< once was called to tune an organ I'd never been in, and when going to > tune the 'Oboe Horn' stop, I found that it was an ordinary Organ-type oboe, > which had been "revoiced" by having discs cut from thin plywood placed over > the tops of the resonators and held in place with friction tape! Not > pretty, either to see or to hear! > >> > >Had it been built that way by a builder on acid? Or had it been modified by a >rebuilder on acid? >   Modified by the re-installer, probably on bourbon, who also ran the cable behind the pews in the choir loft, up the steps to the main organ ('oboe horn' was in the "new" echo at the front of the horse-shoe shaped loft) and across the aisle into the original case. I know his name, but I'll protect the small shred of respect he may have in the organ community by keeping it to myself!.   Regards,   Bob        
(back) Subject: IRC-chats From: "TM LAMMERS" <T.Lammers@fontys.nl> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:23:25 CET   Hi Folks,   The chat from friday night (saturday morning for me....) was well visited. Several people were 'in' an hour before scheduled time. Wenn I left at the scheduled beginning (3:00 AM for me) about 6 paople were 'in'. The saturday chat (8:00 PM for mid-europe/2:00 PM EST) stayed limited to 2 people: Arno from Trier/Germany and myself. Bob came in for a few minutes, but left after a short time to clear his yard from broken trees. Arno and I closed after an hour and nevertheless we had a nice chat together. Folks, where were you? Still all in the shopping-malls?   Greetings,   Tom -= Tom Lammers =- T.Lammers@fontys.nl