PipeChat Digest #200 - Wednesday, January 14, 1998
 
Re: Duct tape again!!
  by Steskinner <Steskinner@aol.com>
Re: Pipes vs Electronics
  by Ronnymn <Ronnymn@aol.com>
Re: Duct tape again!!
  by Jim Saenger <chamade@Early.COM>
Re: Pipes vs Electronics
  by Mattcinnj <Mattcinnj@aol.com>
Concert: Newark, NJ 4pm 1/18 -- The Legacy of Chant (piporg and , pipecha
  by Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net>
Re: Pipes vs Electronics
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
RE: Pipes vs Electronics
  by Wildhirt, Richard <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com>
Boston emerges from the dark ages (cross posted)
  by Charlie Jack 6-4479 <JACKC@CLIFFY.POLAROID.COM>
Concert announcement
  by Clifford N. Bohnson <cbohnson@mosquito.com>
Re: Duct Tape
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Tape (and a comment on DO vs. PO)
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Boston emerges
  by Kenneth O. Woods <kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil>
Re: Boston emerges
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Boston emerges
  by Charlie Jack 6-4479 <JACKC@CLIFFY.POLAROID.COM>
Pipedreams
  by Kenneth O. Woods <kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil>
Re: Pipes vs Electronics
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Boston emerges
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Boston emerges
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Boston emerges
  by Charlie Jack 6-4479 <JACKC@CLIFFY.POLAROID.COM>
To Jason :) about your power outage
  by Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net>
Pipe/Electronic ChrisCraft/Starcraft Bono/Kennedy
  by IDOEDITING <IDOEDITING@aol.com>
Recording radio on a VCR
  by Jacob Nelson <nelsonje@plu.edu>
Re: Pipe/Electronic ChrisCraft/Starcraft Bono/Kennedy
  by Jacob Nelson <nelsonje@plu.edu>
Re: Pipes vs Electronics
  by W. G. Chapman <wchapmn@ibm.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Duct tape again!! From: Steskinner <Steskinner@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:16:18 EST   In a message dated 98-01-12 20:48:35 EST, Michael Williamson writes:   << There are still people out here (myself included) who do still have a stroke when seeing plastic windline in an organ, It's not silly, your right; It's downright foolish to have plastic in an organ. >>   My question: why? I've used PVC pipe for winding for 15 years and have never seen a failure, except where it wasn't glued properly. Certainly not the fault of the PVC, but the installer.   Steven Skinner First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant Erie, PA  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipes vs Electronics From: Ronnymn <Ronnymn@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:01:54 EST   In a message dated 98-01-14 00:57:04 EST, epeterso@madison.tdsnet.com writes:   << Methinks the upstarts should begin developing some patience. ~_ >>   Yes, but also, an improved collective self image. e.g. I have a new grand piano. If a friend listens carefully and says "wow, it sounds like a Steinway!" , I would puff up like a toad with pride. (I would not begin to try to tweek and begin a dance around the issue that Steinway is not the de facto standard) The classic, (church if you must) electronic organ is an honest, remarkable, increasingly effective, bold faced attempt to copy a pipe organ. Hooray for that! No need whatsoever to avoid or bemoan this fact. There are many, many organ lovers who will seldom if ever get a chance to perform in a "cathedral" setting on a pipe organ (they know this is probably a blessing in disguise from the listeners point of view) but the entire community of people who more than love the organ and the music composed for it, are better off for every little inch closer the electronic organ gets to the pipe. I dont "lurk" it has a sexual conotation I think. I "lie in the weeds", or maybe I am "layed" in the weeds. whatever.  
(back) Subject: Re: Duct tape again!! From: "Jim Saenger" <chamade@Early.COM> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 06:03:41 PST   PVC and other materials have been used for years in organbuilding, here and in Europe, with great success. Sometimes one or another other material is more fashionable, however, a rule in serious organbuilding is that the workmanlike use of any material may be acceptable, while the unworkmanlike application the stylish is to be avoided. In the case of white PVC pipe, some appropriate paint might be the answer for many. I wonder if anyone here has ever had the experience of rectangular section metal ductwork? That can be fun.   Jim Saenger   ---------- > > In a message dated 98-01-12 20:48:35 EST, Michael Williamson writes: > > << There are still people out here (myself included) who do still have a > stroke when seeing plastic windline in an organ, It's not silly, your right; > It's downright foolish to have plastic in an organ. >> > > My question: why? I've used PVC pipe for winding for 15 years and have never > seen a failure, except where it wasn't glued properly. Certainly not the > fault of the PVC, but the installer. > > Steven Skinner > First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant > Erie, PA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Pipes vs Electronics From: Mattcinnj <Mattcinnj@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:28:50 EST   Along this line ....... (and the plastic flowers and chalices etc.)   I was thinking what if pipe organs were cheaper than electronics .... only large, for profit only corporations (who treated their employees like slaves) made pipe organs and only dedicated crafts-men and crafts-women made electronics as their calling to GOD.   Now what would be more "pleasing" to GOD ..... and what would organists be demanding to play ?????   I must admit though I have a very strong belief that GOD, the supreme creator of all that was is and shall be really requires nothing from us (nor any other thing in creation) with perhaps one exception ............ To of our own free wills learn to LOVE, unconditionally and non judgementally ...... because we are all one.   I, for one, would rather see plastic flowers if they were given by someone whose only thought and desire was to show love .... as opposed to real flowers that were purchased by someone whose only thought and desire was to show how "generous" they were.   The same goes for hearing an organist perform a very simple piece of music using every bit of love they could muster up .... as opposed to the worlds greatest organist playing the hardest piece of organ music ever written, with the thought of showing off how great they were.   Matt.   ..... although I can't understandnad why the  
(back) Subject: Concert: Newark, NJ 4pm 1/18 -- The Legacy of Chant (piporg and , pipechat) From: Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:44:24 -0500 (EST)     A reminder of a concert at Newark's Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred Heart on the Schantz IV/154 organ:   Posted by: Adam Levin(alevin@advance.net) Date: January 18, 1998 Time: 04:00PM Country: US State: NJ Region: City: Newark Zipcode: 07104 Performer: Mary Jane Wagner Venue: Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred Heart Cost: $10.00 suggested donation Comments: The Legacy of Chant -- Internationally known recitalist and teacher Mary Jane Wagner, OSF, will present a program of music for the organ based on the Gregorian Chants of the Church. Music of Langlais, Durufle, Dupre, and Flor Peeters will be inc luded. Preceding each piece, the Schola of the Cathedral Choir will sing the chant which inspired the organ work. For more information or directions, call (973)484-4600    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipes vs Electronics From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:48:52   At 23:51 01/13/98 -0500, Stan Lowkis wrote:   >Electronic organs of all types can be fairly compared to each other. >They are capable of sound qualities that cannot be duplicated by any >other instrument, including the pipe organ. Many achieve with varying >degrees of success the ability to sound like a pipe organ. Pipe organs >of various types are judged for what they are within their respective >categories.       Stan makes some good points here. A reed organ is a reed organ. A pipe organ is a pipe organ. And an electronic/digital organ is just that. Comparing them all to each other is fruitless. (Excuse the pun.) Sure, the original intent of some manufacturers of electronic organ was to attempt to copy the sounds of pipes, but in this day and age, each category can and must stand on its own.   Pipe installations should be compared to other pipe installations. Apples. Electronic/digital models should be compared others of that ilk. Oranges.   Too much effort, seems to me, is being spent on trying to compare the two. Can't be done. Quality in pipes is not the same as quality in electronics.   Good point, Stan.   --Shirley    
(back) Subject: RE: Pipes vs Electronics From: "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:14:46 -0800   Shirley said:   > Sure, the original intent of some manufacturers of electronic organ > was to > attempt to copy the sounds of pipes, but in this day and age, each > category > can and must stand on its own. > > Pipe installations should be compared to other pipe installations. > Apples. > Electronic/digital models should be compared others of that ilk. > Oranges. > > Too much effort, seems to me, is being spent on trying to compare the > two. > Can't be done. Quality in pipes is not the same as quality in > electronics. > Piggy-backing on this idea, specific instruments (pipe or electronic) have their specific applications. Many places do not have the space for a pipe organ and the ongoing cost of maintenance and climate control. Many places need the pipe sound but want more versatility (such as MIDI interface).   Each type of instrument has its place and its application. There is cross-over, but there is no reason in this big world of ours that the two cannot co-exist. Each instrument does a great job for what they were intended.  
(back) Subject: Boston emerges from the dark ages (cross posted) From: JACKC@CLIFFY.POLAROID.COM (Charlie Jack 6-4479) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:17:26 -0500   Boston and Philadelphia have long been absent from the list of cities that can hear Michael Barone's Pipedreams program. It seems that Boston is about to emerge from this dark age. Starting February 3rd Harvard University's radio station WHRB 95.3 FM will air Pipedreams on Tuesday evenings from 6:30 to 8:00 PM. I hope those of you in their signal area will avail yourselves of this wonderful program which was sampled last night on the station. Also if you do listen be sure to let the station know.   WHRB has a web page at www.whrb.org and Minnesota Public Radio who produces the program has one at www.mpr.org.   Charlie Jack   Charles W. Jack email: jackc@polaroid.com Principal Engineer Polaroid Dry Imaging R&D Polaroid Corporation (781)-386-4479:voice 103 Fourth Avenue (W103F-2) (781)-386-4583:fax Waltham, MA 02154-7598      
(back) Subject: Concert announcement From: "Clifford N. Bohnson" <cbohnson@mosquito.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:30:42 -0500   St. Peter's Episcopal Church, One Hartford Road (south of Route 70), Medford, NJ, is extremely happy to announce the second in this year's concert series:   SUNDAY, February 8, 1998 - 7:00 p.m. "Phantom of the Opera" - the 1925 silent film classic starring Lon Chaney and Mary Philbin accompanied on the church's 4-manual Davidson pipe organ by noted theater organist, Ralph Ringstad   suggested donation - $5   -- CLIFFORD N. BOHNSON, Director of Music Ministries      
(back) Subject: Re: Duct Tape From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:19:30 -0500     >Yo! Good advice Vernon. This one makes Jason look absolutely >docile!!! Youth!!   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hey Bruce, What's that suppose to mean?!?   I don't think that I've heard the whole story. I just got my power back two nights ago from "The Ice Storm of '98" up in the Tri-County Area of New York. I went to get my e-mail and I had over 140 messages. Please bear with me while I get a 'Handel' on this e-mail thing again. I just scroll through the subjects and keep the ones that interest me.   I like the *P*ipe *V*entil *C*hest Windduct(he-he) subject. That's a different story. Later............... Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Re: Tape (and a comment on DO vs. PO) From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:50:04 -0500     >I am not in charge of the maintainence, but I am the only one who >knows >about the mighty pipe organ in my church. The main organist (I am not >the main organist) couldn't have put duct tape on the organ. All she >knows is it has pipes and keys and pedals and makes a hissing sound >when >it is on, and.......... > >Anyway, we have also had the same tech for years, and he should have >replaced it by now. Also, I did leave a big list for him when he came >to work last Wednesday. I'll keep everyone posted. > >Kevin C., who believes a pipe organ can blow away a digital any day. ~~~~~~~~~~~ Kevin, I know EXACTLY what you mean. That's the exact same case at Bethany UM (mine) With the II/13 CEMorey Organ. Our organist doesn't give a "&$%@" about the insturment. She leaves the swell shade pedal (electro-pneumatic) in the closed mode ALL THE TIME! Thus, the shades are partially closed and the tuning is absolutely HORID in the swell box. Sometimes I think that she does it on purpose to annoy me. The tremulant didn't work for about 3 or 4 years and she didn't care! She was self-taught on piano. She doesn't count, I'll stop know.   I've tried to talk to her and the church about either restoring and rebuilding the present insturment or getting another insturment. Everytime I try, I'm refused! Our organ and piano fund (Yes, One fund) has $350: $200 for the organ tech to do a yearly tuning, and $150 for the piano tech to do a yearly tuning. No money for ANYTHING extra. I've tried to talk to the Admin. Board and have tried to get more money in the fund, but they just don't listen. I'm thinking about going to another church. The First Pres. Church of Watertown New York. ALL of my friends go there and NO ONE I know goes to mine. I'll stop know so I can finish my 150 messages of e-mail only from the list that I couldn't get since last thursday because of the (you might have heard about it on the USNational news) "Ice Storm of '98 in Watertown NewYork". I haven't been down to church since I got power monday night. Thursday, when the power went off, I tripped all the breakers to the organ including the heat. The organ I bet is DRASTICALLY out of tune because the outside tempurature was below 0 a couple of nights. I turned off hte heat because I don't want the duct work to split and become much worse than what they are now. I've got to go down there and GRADUALLY add heat until it's back to the normal tempurature. Our Duct work has a great big hole in the bottom of the TRANSFER LINE (as it's so called) and there is enough air to drive you crazy!   I'll go now.   Later...............   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Re: Boston emerges From: kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil (Kenneth O. Woods) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 12:19:58 EST   How does one influence a station to carry a program or to give it a better time slot. I must listen to pipedreams at 10:30-midnight Sunday evenings. It seems a general membership pledge would not give me much leverage over one program. -- Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil  
(back) Subject: Re: Boston emerges From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:28:22 -0500   >How does one influence a station to carry a program or to give it a >better >time slot. I must listen to pipedreams at 10:30-midnight Sunday >evenings. >It seems a general membership pledge would not give me much leverage >over >one program. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Same here!   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Re: Boston emerges From: JACKC@CLIFFY.POLAROID.COM (Charlie Jack 6-4479) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:01:06 -0500   Usually a public radio station can be influenced by hearing from you directly and with a contribution when the time comes, yet that = guarantees nothing. I have had radio people tell me that organ music on the air is death to the audience so it isn't entirely surprising that it gets aired when it does. Be thankful that you can get it at all.   One thing I do wonder though is if anyone has figured a way to = record an FM radio signal on a VCR. It's simple as pie to set up a VCR to = record at any time you want so why not record the 1.5 hour Pipedreams and = listen to it when it's convenient.     > >How does one influence a station to carry a program or to give it a=20 > >better > >time slot. I must listen to pipedreams at 10:30-midnight Sunday=20 > >evenings. > >It seems a general membership pledge would not give me much leverage=20 > >over > >one program. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  
(back) Subject: Pipedreams From: kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil (Kenneth O. Woods) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 13:12:38 EST   I have considered taping as well, I figure the easiest way is to put a timer on the power plug for the FM radio. -- Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipes vs Electronics From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:48:39 -0500   Karl, regarding a discussion of attitudes if pipes had been invented to imitate electronics....   why bother getting upset over milk that cannot even be spilt (even if it's powdered!).   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Boston emerges From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:29:55 -0500   Kenneth, you're ahead of us in North Central Florida. Jacksonvile PBS boadcasts PipeDreams at 6:30 AM or so while church musicians are either getting ready to go, or driving. Univ of Fla station does not broadcast PipeDreams at all.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Boston emerges From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:33:15 -0500   I used to record PipeDreams using a double deck tape recorder plugged into a lamp timer. It worked great. Just set the taperecorder and receiver for recording, tuned on and ready to go. Plug this in to a lamp timer set for the time of the program.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Boston emerges From: JACKC@CLIFFY.POLAROID.COM (Charlie Jack 6-4479) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:48:03 -0500   Sounds like a workable solution except how do you get the full 90 90 minutes of the program on a single tape? I intend to experiment with our video tape setup to see if I can get it to record audio off the radio, I'll report my results.   Charlie Jack =09 Bruce Cornely wrote:   > I used to record PipeDreams using a double deck tape recorder plugged > into a lamp timer. It worked great. Just set the taperecorder and > receiver for recording, tuned on and ready to go. Plug this in to a > lamp timer set for the time of the program.  
(back) Subject: To Jason :) about your power outage From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:56:52 -0800   Um .. careful, Jason :) You'd best check with uh .. an adult :) before you mess with the breakers ... the power may (or may NOT) be stable up there yet!! *Please* check with your electric company to make SURE it's safe (for *YOU* and the church) first, Ok?? :)   All SORTS of nasty things can happen when the power company is trying to restore power to a wide area after such a massive outage.   Ron Yost Paso Robles, Calif.     > I haven't been >down to church since I got power monday night. Thursday, when the power >went off, I tripped all the breakers to the organ including the heat. >The organ I bet is DRASTICALLY out of tune because the outside >tempurature was below 0 a couple of nights. I turned off hte heat >because I don't want the duct work to split and become much worse than >what they are now. I've got to go down there and GRADUALLY add heat >until it's back to the normal tempurature. Our Duct work has a great big >hole in the bottom of the TRANSFER LINE (as it's so called) and there is >enough air to drive you crazy! > >I'll go now. > >Later............... > >Jason Comet >bombarde8@juno.com    
(back) Subject: Pipe/Electronic ChrisCraft/Starcraft Bono/Kennedy From: IDOEDITING <IDOEDITING@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:03:31 EST   Hi Folks. I am new to the list. I will upload my vitae some other time. I= t's=0Atoo long-winded (har har) to post right now.=0A=0AI've been watchin= g the progressive exchange on pipes versus electronics. I=0Aenvision Sonn= y Bono and Michael Kennedy having a heated exchange on which=0Apolitical = party will lead the United States to economic Avalon. Of course,=0Athey b= oth died when they skiied into trees.=0A=0ATo continue the metaphor: =0A= =0AIn a perfect world, I would have:=0A=0A- a Peterbilt instead of a Frei= ghtliner;=0A- a Dodge Ram instead of a Toyota T100;=0A- a Harley instead = of a Honda;=0A- a wooden Chris Craft instead of a fiberglass Starcraft po= ntoon boat; =0A- a stainless Jenn-Air cooktop instead of an almond-ename= led GE range; =0A- a rich lover, and=0A=0A- a 200-rank Barton pipe organ = instead of an analog Lowrey Symphonic Theatre=0AOrgan that looks like a w= ooden version of the robot from Lost in Space.=0A=0ABoth do the jobs they= were designed for, except that one usually does many=0Athings satisfacto= rily, and can be repaired with shims, duct tape and rubber=0Abands, while= the other does fewer things, but does them glamorously and=0Afabulously = =97 requiring more upkeep and a blacksmith.=0A=0AIt's just a matter of pr= iorities. The finger-pointing pipe-organ purist might=0Adrive a mass-prod= uced Honda, while the indignant "you-spot-it-you-got-it"=0Adefender of el= ectronic tone generators might drive a hand-built Rolls-Royce. =0A=0ALet'= s all just be grateful that we share a common love for ORGAN music and=0A= stay focused on our mutual goal, lest we get sidetracked and slam headlon= g=0Ainto a 32' contrabass pipe.=0A=0AJohn Carrington=0AIDOEDITING@aol.com= =0AChesterton Indiana=0ATrucker, Writer, Pianist, Theatre Organist=0A    
(back) Subject: Recording radio on a VCR From: Jacob Nelson <nelsonje@plu.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:00:15 -0800 (PST)       On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Charlie Jack 6-4479 wrote:   > One thing I do wonder though is if anyone has figured a way to record > an FM radio signal on a VCR. It's simple as pie to set up a VCR to record > at any time you want so why not record the 1.5 hour Pipedreams and listen > to it when it's convenient.   Shouldn't be too difficult, especially if you have a quality FM receiver with line out connectors. You may have to get a cable to connect things--an RCA-to-RCA cable if the radio has RCA line out connectors.   Almost all VCR's have 4 RCA connectors on the back: video in, video out, audio in, and audio out. Just connect the line out on the radio to the audio in on the VCR, and you should be set. Once in a while, VCR's require an input select switch to be flipped to use the connectors on the back. You can check that the connection is working by turning on the TV connected to the VCR--the audio from the radio should come out of the TV speaker.   Most VCR's aren't stereo, and most radios are. There's probably a "mono" switch on the radio. It's probably best to turn on the mono switch and connect the cable to the left channel output (the one that's not red). You could, however, use an RCA Y-adapter to combine the two channels.   If your radio doesn't have line out connectors, you *could* get a 1/8" to RCA cable and use the headphones jack on the radio. It might not work too well. If you do this, make sure the volume control on the radio is VERY low--use the TV to adjust it so that it's the same loudness as any other TV program. If the volume control on the radio is too high, the least that'll happen is that your recording will sound awful. The worst that'll happen (unlikely) is that you could hurt the VCR.   I work at the student TV station here at Pacific Lutheran University (which is getting a VERY nice organ, making this post even more on topic :-), and we run signals all over the place like this all the time. I'd be happy to explain things further if my explanation doesn't make sense (very possible--like I said, I do things like this all the time and probably ignored something).   Good luck! Ooh--one last thing. You'll get the best audio quality if you record in SP mode rather than EP or SLP or whatever your VCR calls it. You'd be suprised--sound quality over the radio is often better than what your VCR records! :-)   Jacob Nelson      
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe/Electronic ChrisCraft/Starcraft Bono/Kennedy From: Jacob Nelson <nelsonje@plu.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:09:42 -0800 (PST)       On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, IDOEDITING wrote:   > It's just a matter of priorities. The finger-pointing pipe-organ purist > might drive a mass-produced Honda, while the indignant > "you-spot-it-you-got-it" defender of electronic tone generators might > drive a hand-built Rolls-Royce.   Exactly. It can even work this way inside the wide world of organs! There are some things that I would not want to play on anything other than a three-manual tracker, and there are others that I would not want to play on anything but a Hammond B3 with a few Leslies connected. Of course, I enjoy jazz organ as well as classical. :-)   In an interesting twist of life, while many people are stuck with with an electronic organ when they would like a pipe organ, I have access to (count 'em) seven different pipe organs and (count 'em) zero electronic organs. I would prefer both.   > Let's all just be grateful that we share a common love for ORGAN music > and stay focused on our mutual goal, lest we get sidetracked and slam > headlong into a 32' contrabass pipe.   This is a very good thought. Those pipes are HEAVY! :-)   Jacob Nelson    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipes vs Electronics From: "W. G. Chapman" <wchapmn@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:56:23 -0500   KARL W KELLER wrote: > > I have > been wondering what the feeling would be if the electronic organ had been > invented before the pipe organ....   Actually, I suspect that the positions would be inverted and the parties the same. About the only thing one would be able to say with certainty is that all involved would have minds like concrete: all mixed up and permanently set. :-)   WmGC