PipeChat Digest #204 - Sunday, January 18, 1998
 
Ms. Diane Bish/her broadcasts/her rings
  by gregory@mke.earthreach.com <gregory@mke.earthreach.com>
Re: Ms. Diane Bish/her broadcasts/her rings
  by DudelK <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: DO vs. PO -A Question
  by SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com>
Re: Ms. Diane Bish/her broadcasts/her rings
  by SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com>
Re: Organ in a box?
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: To Jason :) about your power outage
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Bish on TBN
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Organ in a box?
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: sampling
  by Timothy Patterson <timp@usinternet.com>
Chest for sale
  by Timothy Patterson <timp@usinternet.com>
Digital Rank Extensions?
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Organ in a box
  by Sean Haley <newgershwin@hotmail.com>
The last word (hopefully) on PO
  by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com>
Re: Digital Rank Extensions?
  by Sean Haley <newgershwin@hotmail.com>
A little about myself
  by Sean Haley <newgershwin@hotmail.com>
Re: Digital Rank Extensions?
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Organ in a box?
  by k.ost <080395120-0001@t-online.de>
Favorite Advice for Organists
  by Roger <pamnroy@wolfenet.com>
Trousdale Organ Co.
  by Sean Haley <newgershwin@hotmail.com>
Organ Concert in Reading, Pa. (fwd)
  by John L. Speller <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Favorite Advice for Organists
  by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com>
Re: Organ in a box
  by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com>
Re: Digital Rank Extensions?
  by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com>
Re: Organ in a box?
  by Ken <mewzishn@spec.net>
Hey Man
  by Oboe32 <Oboe32@aol.com>
Wrong Mailing
  by Oboe32 <Oboe32@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Ms. Diane Bish/her broadcasts/her rings From: "gregory@mke.earthreach.com" <gregory@mke.earthreach.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 98 07:05:47 -0600   Greetings:   Ms Bish has her "Joy Of Music" programs broadcast on two independent channels in the Milwaukee area. On both the sound is very poor.   Tom Gregory   p.s. Where did Ms. Bish get her rings....from the Liberace collection?  
(back) Subject: Re: Ms. Diane Bish/her broadcasts/her rings From: DudelK <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:26:22 EST   More likely from QVC!  
(back) Subject: Re: DO vs. PO -A Question From: SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:04:13 EST   Kevin,   As a fellow Alabamian I send greetings. Falling in love with the music of the pipe organ is a wonderful and mysterious experience. I played a wedding in Greenville once at FUMC. It was a Wicks. The instruments they build today are much more refined in sound than the Greenville FUMC organ is, but I remember it having several very nice stops.   Play as many different instruments as you can.....go on an organ crawl to Birmingham... Go to the Alabama Theatre and hear the Mighty Wurlitzer, then go visit the 100 rank Moller at the Church of the Advent which includes pipes from several older instruments. There many other fine instruments to be discovered out there!   Just always make the appropriate calls and ask permission to play!! I've found out personally as a youngster how embarrassing it can be to get caught throwing that blower switch without permission!!!! HAPPY HUNTING :-)   RandyT  
(back) Subject: Re: Ms. Diane Bish/her broadcasts/her rings From: SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:16:23 EST   It is very amusing to poke fun at Diane Bish....I was a guilty party for several years until I read the truly tacky review of her performance at the Houston AGO Convention.   Heck, I wish I could play like her without my ring on (mine is NOT from QVC)!!!   I ocassionally see her program on TV, and I think that we in this country are very lucky to have anything like the "Joy of Music," things such as they are. As an organist I sometimes wish for more information about the organs, etc... and less gospel music accompanied by a great European tracker. But think of the average lay person who just might really listen the next time he/she is in church!   So until we can come up with something better, let's give her some support!   RandyT  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in a box? From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:00:32 -0500   If its an Austin my guess is "pipe organ"   Don't know of any unique name for an instrument build with all pipes in a swell box.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: To Jason :) about your power outage From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:24:38 -0500   You'd best check with uh .. an adult :) >before >you mess with the breakers ... the power may (or may NOT) be stable up >there yet!! *Please* check with your electric company to make SURE >it's >safe (for *YOU* and the church) first, Ok?? :) > >All SORTS of nasty things can happen when the power company is trying >to restore power to a wide area after such a massive outage. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Everythings fine. I checked with the electric company this morning because we needed the organ today for a wedding and rehersal.   Everything's fine.   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Re: Bish on TBN From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:43:57 -0500   >Before I left for work this morning, I was channel surfing. I ran >across Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) and saw Diane Bish playing >the >Mozart organ at Haarlem. She was playing Bach's Toccata and Fugue in >d. >Fabulous. Does anyone know if this is a regular program of hers? I >couldn't stick around long enough to see the credits, and TV Guide >doesn't list programs for TBN. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What time was it and what day? I could probably tellyou. I watch her every chance I get. I know that she is on EWTN (Eternal Witness Television Network) every Sunday afternoon's at 4:30 (NY area). (I haven't checked my e-mail for a couple of days. I got 67 messages spanning 5 days.) Toodels...   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in a box? From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:28:25 -0500   > Excuse me for not knowing but I have forgotten what an organ >is >called that has everything except the console in a "box" with swell >shutters. Here in Winfield Kansas there is a "practice" organ in a >building of the now defunct St. John's College. The city now owns the >buildings and the organ was playable until recently when the leather >gave >out. The organ is an Austin organ of 6 or 7 rank, two manual console. > It >is all in an enclosure and the console is separate. What is this type >of >organ called? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Could it possibly be called a "Free-Standing" organ?   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Re: sampling From: Timothy Patterson <timp@usinternet.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:59:50 -0600     >A friend who was at the AIO conference in VA last year told me he heard talk >going around that "someone in the business" was working to provide sampled >T.O. sounds for the Alesis QSR-64. Nothing else is known at this writing. >I'm curious, as Alesis has a "Santuary Card" that has samples of classical >pipe sounds, chimes, piano, etc. which plugs into the QSR. So, would they >possibly be working on a "Theatre Organ Card"? Or is this just another >unfounded rumor ... Might motivate me to get a QSR-64 if they are, in-fact, >working on T.O. samples. A lot less $$ than the alternatives. > >John Balboni     It is not a rumor. I plan to have the QSR available soon.   Timothy Patterson <timp@usinternet.com>    
(back) Subject: Chest for sale From: Timothy Patterson <timp@usinternet.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:08:09 -0600   I have two straight chests available. They are very well built and in very good condition. They are on three inches of wind. Both chests have regulators attached.   One is a three stop/four rank chest, ($900) 8' (notes 1-12 switched,notes13-61), 4', 2-2/3'& 1-3/5'   The other is a four rank chest, ($1,200) 8' capped, 4' open, 4' open, 2' open   ------------------ Also have a 73 note unit chest of unknown builder, for 4'principal. ($450) very good condition.   If you have an interest, please let me know by Monday night, or these chests will sold locally. St. Paul, Minnesota.   Timothy Patterson <timp@usinternet.com> 1-612-222-7473    
(back) Subject: Digital Rank Extensions? From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:53:38   Hi, Lists--   1) My apologies if this has already been discussed recently on piporg-l. I've been doing a lot of deleting lately without reading, since the mail generated has been more than I have time to invest in digesting it.   2) With the following post, please just respond to the question if you have an answer. There is no need for tangential flames or suggestions to what we *should* be doing. This is an area I'm merely exploring at this point in time.   Having said all that, here is the dilemma at hand:   A former organist at Abington church felt it was a good idea to unify the ranks of the Moller. And we are now stuck with a few ranks that don't go the distance. For example, there is a lovely fat flute that was brought up to the manuals from the pedal, an 8' rank. Obviously, it only goes so far on the keyboard. There are other such ranks -- a beautiful 8' Montre trying to be 4', for example -- that don't have the pipe extensions.   We would *love* to have these pipes made and installed to match what we have, but it's a monetary nightmare right now. (Hey: We're trying to pay an organist what s/he's worth here! More on that in another post.)   The console of the Moller is now computer run: All of the innards have been removed and replaced by a computer (keyboard, monitor, harddrive).   Is there a way to digitize these extensions by sampling the sounds already there, and then have them activated when the stop is pulled, along with the pipes? Private replies preferred, please.   Thanks to any and all who can help.   --Shirley   PS -- Should I post the specs to Osiris?  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in a box From: "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:21:40 PST   Most organs where all ranks are enclosed are said to have a General Swell or are under general expression. I do not know of any specific name for this design.   Sean Haley <newgershwin@hotamil.com>   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: The last word (hopefully) on PO From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:31:35 EST   Hello list,   If any of you are in NYC in Greenwich Village, I highly recommend that you check out the PO on Cornelia Street. This is my wife's and my favorite Italian restaurant in NYC. It got a rave in Eric Asimov's "Under $25" column in the NYTimes.   You can see the chef Mario Battali, who still cooks in the restaurant, regularly on TVFN, for those of you in the USA w/ cable.   Mangia!!   Charles  
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Rank Extensions? From: "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:35:30 PST       Shirley wrote:   > Is there a way to digitize these extensions by sampling the sounds already >there, and then have them activated when the stop is pulled, along with the >pipes?   Yes there is a way to use sampled extensions as long as the organ is computer controlled. A Wurlitzer Organ of Plummer Auditorium in Fullerton, Ca. use sampled pipe extensions and percussions because of chamber space limitations. Trousdale Organ Co was responsible for the work done on this particular organ. I do not know exactly how the process would work for your particular organ but I believe it is possible. I hope this can be of some help.   Sean Haley <newgershwin@hotmail.com>   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: A little about myself From: "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:52:48 PST   Dear Listers,   I apologize for not introducing myself briefly before I began responding to everything. I am a pianist, organist, and I dabble in organ designing and building, which I have studied for 8 years through books and crawling inside a couple of organs. I will be off to college before too long an intend to major in music. Those that would like to know more about my musical education will have to e-mail me personally to spare the other readers from my life history.   It's nice to finally be a part of PipeChat.   Sean Haley <newgershwin@hotmail.com>     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Rank Extensions? From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:51:26   At 12:35 01/17/98 PST, you wrote:   > Yes there is a way to use sampled extensions as long as the organ is >computer controlled. A Wurlitzer Organ of Plummer Auditorium in >Fullerton, Ca. use sampled pipe extensions and percussions because of >chamber space limitations. Trousdale Organ Co was responsible for the >work done on this particular organ. I do not know exactly how the >process would work for your particular organ but I believe it is >possible.   Sean, is there a website, or do you have an address/phone, for Trousdale?   TIA.   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in a box? From: 080395120-0001@t-online.de (k.ost) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 23:19:18 +0100   Frank Johnson schrieb: > Excuse me for not knowing but I have forgotten what an organ is > called that has everything except the console in a "box" with swell > shutters. Here in Winfield Kansas there is a "practice" organ in a > building of the now defunct St. John's College. The city now owns the > buildings and the organ was playable until recently when the leather gave > out. The organ is an Austin organ of 6 or 7 rank, two manual console. It > is all in an enclosure and the console is separate. What is this type of > organ called? > > > Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) > Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader > http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ > 1922 E. 14th > Winfield, KS 67156 > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > Hi Frank,   here in Germany we call this type of pipe organ just a "Positiv". Normally it has one or two manuals, 5 to approx. 12 ranks, and a full pedal. I have been on several instruments like this.   Klaus Ost Organist Rott a. Inn, Germany email: k.ost@t-online.de    
(back) Subject: Favorite Advice for Organists From: "Roger" <pamnroy@wolfenet.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:55:44 -0800   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD2368.C054DD40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Let's see if we can get a thread started on what is our favorite advice = we have received about how to play the organ.   In my case, it came from my first organ teacher, Bernice Mason. Mrs. = Mason was from Missouri; and although she had spent time during World = War II touring the Pacific region with her Hammond, she always retained = the fine, slow drawl of a finished southern lady. Now, some 40 years = later, I still hear her say as she stood behind me, 'Make the notes = connect like a string of pearls covered with honey.'   That may not be the most important advise I received, but it is the one = I most easily envision and remember.   ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD2368.C054DD40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Let's see if we can get a thread = started on what=20 is our favorite advice we have received about how to play the=20 organ.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>In my case, it came from my first = organ teacher,=20 Bernice Mason.&nbsp; Mrs. Mason was from Missouri; and although she had = spent=20 time during World War II touring the Pacific region with her Hammond, = she always=20 retained the fine, slow drawl of a finished southern lady.&nbsp; Now, = some 40=20 years later, I still hear her say as she stood behind me, = <U><STRONG>'Make the=20 notes connect like a string of pearls covered with&nbsp;=20 honey.'</STRONG></FONT></U></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>That may not be the most important = advise I=20 received, but it is the one I most easily envision and=20 remember.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD2368.C054DD40--    
(back) Subject: Trousdale Organ Co. From: "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:11:05 PST   Sean, is there a website, or do you have an address/phone, for Trousdale?   > --Shirley   If I find one or the other I will let you know. I think the company is somewhere back east.   Sean     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Organ Concert in Reading, Pa. (fwd) From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:49:24 -0600 (CST)   Forwarded from the Diocese of Bethlehem List:   Organ Concert in Reading - February 1   Bruce P. Bengtson, SSM, AAGO, organist and choir director at Christ Church, Reading, will present a concert "in celebration of the contributions of American composers to the organ literature and in thanksgiving for the musical guidance of Searle Wright in this year of his 80th birthday."   The concert will take place on Sunday, February 1, at Christ Church, 5th and Court Streets, Reading, beginning at 4:00 p.m. The public is invited. There is no admission charge; a freewill offering will be received. Call 610/374-8269 during working hours for more information.    
(back) Subject: Re: Favorite Advice for Organists From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:27:37 EST   Nod your head, and hope to God the choir does something.  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in a box From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:29:33 EST   In a message dated 98-01-17 15:25:27 EST, you write:   << Most organs where all ranks are enclosed are said to have a General Swell or are under general expression. I do not know of any specific name for this design. >>   I believe that "general swell" is the correct term, though I have heard several perjorative variations  
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Rank Extensions? From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:34:17 EST   In a message dated 98-01-17 16:01:56 EST, you write:   << A Wurlitzer Organ of Plummer Auditorium in >Fullerton, Ca. use sampled pipe extensions and percussions because of >chamber space limitations. >>   Extra digital ranks? Or extensions to existing ranks?   I am aware of one organ in NJ w/ a pneumatic action that had several digital reeds added. Good compromise, IMO, since the digital ranks didn't "replace" anything, and especially that digital reeds avoid some of the knottier maintenence problems.  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in a box? From: Ken <mewzishn@spec.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:31:34 +0000       bruce cornely wrote:   > If its an Austin my guess is "pipe organ"   I was SO tempted to respond with that, but I've been so sarcastic lately, I figured I'd let someone have a try. I'm glad someone did! : )   Ken        
(back) Subject: Hey Man From: Oboe32 <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:39:07 EST   Hi, I'm Pete, one of the only three kids who ever speaks up on this list, you make four. Itz good to know that there is someone crazy enough to talk to organists at our age out there. I'm 17, and I live in NJ, which is not great organ country, but we have a few gems. Everybody out here is basically a sport nut, which I am guilty of also. Anyway, nice to meet ya, and never stop talking on this list, or they will all attack you at once, itz just crazy like that!! Have a good one bud, and mail me if ya want, we can shoot the breeze about organ stuff. I do take a while to respond though, I swim, and it makes fun stuff hard to get time for!!   Later, Pete Isherwood Oboe32@AOL.com  
(back) Subject: Wrong Mailing From: Oboe32 <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:41:04 EST   SOrry list, I sent a personal mailing to the list instead of to Sean Haley. That goes to show how awake you really are at 1 AM!! Have a nice weekend!!   -Pete