PipeChat Digest #208 - Tuesday, January 20, 1998
 
Re: Advice isn't Advice Anymore!
  by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com>
Re: non-organ but appropriate,Reply
  by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com>
Re: Advice isn't Advice Anymore!
  by Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
RE: Favorite Advice for Organists
  by Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net>
Re: Advice isn't Advice Anymore!
  by SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com>
Home pedalboard/bench project -- graphics done.
  by Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net>
RE: Favorite Advice for Organists
  by Wildhirt, Richard <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com>
Diane Bish
  by Morton Belcher III <flcg1018@fujens.fju.edu.tw>
Re: Organ in a box?
  by Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: Trousdale Organ Co.
  by Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: Favorite Advice for Organists
  by Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: Organs for a lifetime
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Purchasing My First
  by Billsgrand <Billsgrand@aol.com>
Re: Organ in a box?
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #205 - 01/19/98
  by Douglas A. Campbell <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: Purchasing My First
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Organs for a lifetime
  by Jon C. Habermaas <opus1100@ameritech.net>
Re: Organs for a lifetime
  by Kevin.M.Simons-1 <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu>
Virgil
  by Dave Pitzer <dpitzer@sonic.net>
Re: Organs for a lifetime
  by Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire <stops@globalnet.co.uk>
Re: Virgil & Diane
  by Douglas A. Campbell <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: Virgil & Diane
  by SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com>
Re: Virgil
  by Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net>
Re: Virgil & Diane
  by Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net>
Re: Virgil & Diane
  by GRS Co LVR <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Advice isn't Advice Anymore! From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:14:27 EST   In a message dated 98-01-19 20:35:51 EST, you write:   << ea!!!! I thought the person who started this said he would like to get something POSITIVE over the list, and maybe help some other people. >>   Do you mean Positif? Sounds SWELL.  
(back) Subject: Re: non-organ but appropriate,Reply From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:19:18 EST   In a message dated 98-01-20 03:06:08 EST, you write:   << << "Life is as fleeting as a rainbow, a flash of lightning, a star at dawn. Knowing this, how can you quarrel?" >> Happy the man who says not, when lightening flashes: "Life is fleeting." Zen saying. >>   What is the sound of one hand clapping? Woosh woosh woosh woosh woosh woosh   The Master was walking in the forest with his students. He turned to one, showed him his staff, and asked, "What is this." The student replied, "I don't know." The master then hit the student with his staff. The master turned to another student and asked the same question. The other student said, "Give it to me and I'll show you." Whereupon he hit the master.        
(back) Subject: Re: Advice isn't Advice Anymore! From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:28:10 -0500   CDKrug wrote: > > In a message dated 98-01-19 20:35:51 EST, you write: > > << ea!!!! I thought the person who started this said he would like to get > something POSITIVE over the list, and maybe help some other people. > >> > > Do you mean Positif? Sounds SWELL.     I won't claim that you haven't made some KEY points here, and despite your BELLOWS, I'll request that you CONSOLE yourself by either back PEDALING or putting a STOP to this. But, please don't feel PISTON!   :-) :-) :-)  
(back) Subject: RE: Favorite Advice for Organists From: Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:16:25 -0500 (EST)   On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire wrote: > What is / was wrong with V.F.?? He brought > performances of pure classical music to a level where they could be enjoyed > by masses of - dare I type the word in these hallowed 'virtual' portals - > Teenagers. > I wish . . . . .   You know, my current teacher doesn't like Virgil either. I like *some* of the stuff, sometimes.   > Perhaps the most important piece of advice for any aspiring musician is ... > NEVER LOSE YOUR SENSE OF HUMOUR!!!! > Too many of our classical orientated brethren and sistern (??cistern??) > appear to have narrow minded outlooks, of which not even a musical purist > would approve, and who are totally devoid of any light heartedness. > Life is meant to be fun, Music is meant to be fun, performing music (indeed > performing anything) should be fun for both the performer and the listener.   I agree with you, for the most part. I'm always willing to listen to a new or different interpretation of a piece. That doesn't mean I'll like it. Virgil's performances can be fun, flashy and exciting, and sometimes I'm in the mood to listen to that. Most of the time, however, I find myself enjoying more classical interpretations like those of Mr. Biggs. I think there's room for everyone. One thing I've noticed is that on Biggsy's album recorded on the four antiphonal organs at Freiberg, he sounds much more like Virgil Fox than when he's playing the Flentrop at Harvard. Still no swell pedal, but more switching manuals/registrations. Go figure. I guess I like 'em all. :)   > After all, the majority of our classical compositions were written both for > a fee, and to entertain somebody, and the greatest of the religious > compositions were written because the composer was usually being paid to > produce a work to a schedule.   I've often wondered what Mr. Bach would do given the Riverside church organ or St. John's or the Crystal Cathedral or Sydney Town Hall or...   I'd be willing to bet we'd be treated to some absolutely amazing stuff.   > So come one everyone, lighten up, have some fun. We all enjoy our chosen > instrument in one vein or another, be it pipe, digital, electronic, and > playing secular, classical, theatre, religious, jazz, or whatever.   And there's room to enjoy it more than one way as well.   -Adam   Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online!_/ "How'd she do that?" "She didn't. http://zen.advance.net/~alevin/_______/ She let *you* do it. You got to <*> __________________________/ watch yourself around Esme Weatherwax. I'd -O / like to see one of them Zen buggers come up against *her* one day."    
(back) Subject: Re: Advice isn't Advice Anymore! From: SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:30:59 EST   In a message dated 98-01-20 07:47:55 EST, nstarfil@mediaone.net writes:   << I won't claim that you haven't made some KEY points here, and despite your BELLOWS, I'll request that you CONSOLE yourself by either back PEDALING or putting a STOP to this. But, please don't feel PISTON! >>     NOW THIS IS TRULY ART!!! :-) RandyT  
(back) Subject: Home pedalboard/bench project -- graphics done. From: Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:08:44 -0500 (EST)     Ok, at the request of several list members (on several lists), I've added MIDI explanations and graphics (crudely drawn by yours truly) to my web page describing my practice set up at home with MIDIfied 30 note AGO organ pedalboard. I've also added info about the organ bench I just finished building thanks to a brief description from Bruce Behnke (thanks, Bruce!) -- my old keyboard bench wouldn't fit over the pedalboard!   http://zen.advance.net/~alevin/organ/practice.html   Thanks to all who have congratulated me and to all who have provided supplies, contacts and support. I'm glad it's over. :)   Take care, -Adam   Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online! _/ Cuius testiculos habes, http://zen.advance.net/~alevin/________/ habeas cardia et cerebellum. <*> __________________________/ Or, "When you have their full attention -O / in your grip, their heart and mind will follow."    
(back) Subject: RE: Favorite Advice for Organists From: "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:55:18 -0800   > At 07:28 AM 1/19/98 -0800, Wildhirt, Richard wrote: > >My organ instructor in college simply told me, "Don't imitate Virgil > >Fox." > > > Your organ instructor must have been either an incredibly talented > virtuoso > performer, or an idiot!! What is / was wrong with V.F.?? He brought > performances of pure classical music to a level where they could be > enjoyed > by masses of - dare I type the word in these hallowed 'virtual' > portals - > Teenagers. > My organ instructor was neither virtuoso or idiot. He was and is, in fact, a pragmatist. In the context of which he was speaking (which was liturgical organ playing), he wanted me as a student to study musical interpretations as the composers intended. Virgil's presentation of organ works was, shall we say, non-traditional. He was a genius, and he had every right to blaze his own trail, but his outrageous theatrics toward the end of his career had no place in my studies at the time. That's all, I believe, my instructor was trying to say.   I do not want to start a thread of defense for/opposition to Virgil, but I am one of those teenagers who was influenced by Virgil. I attended his concerts, collected a few of his recordings, and followed his life with interest.   I was at the Frederick Swann recital in Portland, Oregon, on the day Virgil died. The audience gasped when Fred announced that his predecessor at Riverside had died, and he dedicated the entire recital to him. His first piece was a hymn, played in the unmistakable Fox style.   Rich  
(back) Subject: Diane Bish From: Morton Belcher III <flcg1018@fujens.fju.edu.tw> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:37:27 +0800 (TAIST)   I was most pleased to read the recent posts in support of Diane Bish.   Moreover, I am glad to hear that Ms. Bish is aware of the typos in that biography... I always suspected Ms. Bish had both a B. Mus and M. Mus under the late Mildred Andrews... and the biography confirmed that fact. And speaking of the late Miss Andrews, to me the most grating typo was "Mrs." Andrews instead of Miss [Mildred] Andrews... Yes, after she retired from the University of Oklahoma, Miss Andrews did marry Mr. Boggess, and during those years she signed her name in letters written to the editor of the AGO magazine, "Mildred Andrews Boggess..."   Now, back to Diane Bish....Perhaps one of these days Ms. Bish will find time to write an autobiography.... However with all of her activities, I think we will have to wait a number of years for her autobiography...   Two friends of mine (residing in different states in the U. S., who do not know each other) also have met Ms. Bish and have found her to be very friendly, sincere, and enthusiastic about her calling to do her best as "First Lady of the Organ" to get people interested in the pipe organ...   Lets all make a belated though sincere Lunar New Year's Wish that we will be able to hear [and see] Miss Bish for many years to come.   Best wishes to all....     Morton Belcher  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in a box? From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:24:36 -0800   At 00:31 1/18/98 +0000, you wrote: > > >bruce cornely wrote: > >> If its an Austin my guess is "pipe organ" > >I was SO tempted to respond with that, but I've been so sarcastic lately, >I figured I'd let someone have a try. I'm glad someone did! : ) > >Ken   Jeez! I go away for the weekend, and look at the opportunity I missed.....       Regards,   Bob        
(back) Subject: Re: Trousdale Organ Co. From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:37:50 -0800     Try: Robert Trousdale <trox@earthlink.net>       Regards,   Bob        
(back) Subject: Re: Favorite Advice for Organists From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:15:23 -0800   At 16:55 1/17/98 -0800, you wrote: > Let's see if we can get a thread started on what is our favorite >advice we have received about how to play the organ. Now, some 40 >years later, I still hear her say as she stood behind me, Make the notes connect like a string of pearls covered with honey.' That >may not be the most important advise I received, but it is the one I most >easily envision and remember.   Hi List! How odd that the opening of what may become a thread would contain that particular piece of advice. When I was taking lessons in a church with an over-abundance of reverb, the piece of advice I remember most vividly was hearing my instructor shout from the front of the church (where he had gone to listen) "You've got to put some space between the notes! All I can hear is MUSH!".....     Regards,   Bob        
(back) Subject: Re: Organs for a lifetime From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:15:48 -0500   >average person purchases three organs >in their life time   I'm either way below average or VERY young; I'm still waiting for my first organ!!   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Purchasing My First From: Billsgrand <Billsgrand@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:52:57 EST   Thanks for the advice about first hand experience being the ultimate deciding factor. I'm in total agreement with that, you know "one man's treasure" sort of thing. Also did I fail to mention that I'm pushing 50 and would like to get it close to right the first time. I doubt that there will be 3 organs in my life, although one could dream. Anyway I have had opportunity to experience a several organs from the larger companies but not from Johannus. I'm sure I will make the trip to the dealer to check them out but I was wondering also if anyone had any experiences with them that they would care to share. I'm concerned about the integrity of the product and company, Their prices seem to be quite a bit lower than comparable models from the larger companies and IMHO their demo CD sounds fantastic. This is more fun than shopping for a car! Bill Costanzo  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in a box? From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:01:57 -0500   >away for the weekend and look what I missed   It's never too late! Let's have it....   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #205 - 01/19/98 From: dougcampbell@juno.com (Douglas A. Campbell) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:16:50 EST     On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:00:00 EST Billsgrand <Billsgrand@aol.com> writes: >Hello to all Digital is the only possibility and >after researching, only an entry level model will be affordable. I've >checked >out Rodgers, Allen and Gallanti already and am also interested in the >Johannus >whitch I have not had the opportunity to play but have only heard >on their >demo CD (Quite impressive I might add). As the nearest Johannus dealer >is >about 100 miles from here, I thought I would solicit you all for >opinions. I >was quoted prices of around $8000 for their Opus 10 and $12500 for >the >Sweelink 10. Bill,   As a suggestion for a "starter" instrument I would suggest that you contact several of the local electronic dealers and ask to be kept posted about used instruments. There are many used instruments being replaced in churches that, although may not be the "greatest" sounding may well serve you sufficiently for a rehersal instrument (at least for a while).   These instruments have little resale value and can usually be acquired for $ 2,500 or LESS ! (depending on the age , size, etc.).   Much As I would like a nice pipe organ in my home - it wouldn't fit.   Mush As I would like a nice new digital electronic - I can't afford it! (and I would be very upset if I purchased a $12,000 instrument and discovered in 6 months that I really didn't like it!) Electronics have a tendency to become "boring" after a period of time. I have heard this from many owners. If hyou were to purdchase a used electronic for , say $ 1,500 - then IF you decided that it wasn't for you 1). you stand a better chance of getting your money back on a re-sale and 2) you haven't committed the farm !   Hope this helps,     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY  
(back) Subject: Re: Purchasing My First From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:22:26 -0500   Even though electronic are not my cup-O-tea, I still appreciate a pleasant sound. If I may offer my opinion to save you a one-hundred mile drive, don't bother with the Johannus. I have played several in side-by-side demos with Allen, Rogers and Baldwin, and the Johannus always came out sounding like an old Conn (the ones with the unison stops and 4 2 2-2/3 etc couplers). I have not played a Baldwin that impressed me, but Allen has been an occasional preference (they tend to vascilate in quality). As I mentioned, a friend has a rather nice Galanti and Rogers has the advantage of more latitude in voicing, at least they did before they went digital. And don't forget, when you get down to the decision point, don't buy anything until they have fed you well!! Make 'em work for it!   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Organs for a lifetime From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:56:31 -0600   bruce cornely wrote: > > >average person purchases three organs > >in their life time > > I'm either way below average or VERY young; > I'm still waiting for my first organ!! > Guess using this criteria I pushing on very OLD..to date four organs.. 2 pipe and 2 electronics...currently have one of each     Jon  
(back) Subject: Re: Organs for a lifetime From: "Kevin.M.Simons-1" <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:15:31 -0600   Jon C. Habermaas wrote: > > bruce cornely wrote: > > > > >average person purchases three organs > > >in their life time > > > > I'm either way below average or VERY young; > > I'm still waiting for my first organ!! > > > Guess using this criteria I pushing on very OLD..to date four organs.. > 2 pipe and 2 electronics...currently have one of each > > Jon >   Wow, count your blessings.   Unfortunately, neither would fit in my dorm room here at OU, and I think my mother would kill me if I told her I wanted to put an organ in the basement at home...Not that I could afford it anyway.   <sigh> Maybe someday...   Kevin M. Simons  
(back) Subject: Virgil From: Dave Pitzer <dpitzer@sonic.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:21:19 -0800   The argument about the value of Virgil Fox has been going on for years. Those who defend him almost always make a reference to how he was able to "pack" a church/recital hall -- the assumption being that he introduced a lot of people to the organ and organ music. This further assumes that the crowd remembered the sound and/or the music for any length of time. Probably most did not; they went to *see* Virgil, not to hear music. Virgil was the attraction. The music rolled off most attendees brains like water off a duck's back.   I recently [perhaps a year ago] had the rare opportunity to speak with a Fox recital attendee from sometime in the late 50's -early 60's [at Riverside Church in NYC]. I asked this person [now in his fifties] what Mr. Fox played at this recital: absolutely no idea. I asked if he had any Bach recordings: Yes! the Brandenburg Concerto [sic]. I asked if he had any pipe organ recordings: No, reminded him too much of weddings and funerals. But he had seen Virgil and remembered this ocassion vividly -- except for the music, obviously.   Virgil was a personality first, a musician second. Nothing wrong with that. But I strongle suspect that he did NOT introduce -- in a meaningful way -- a large number of people to organs or organ music. The notion that he was an ambassador for organ music is, in the face of history, silly and ought to be put to rest.   Incidentally, at about the same time as the person above, I attended an organ recital at the chapel at Princeton University. Don't recall the organist but I heard the music of Alain for the first time at this recital. I'll never forget it -- the music, that is.   David Pitzer    
(back) Subject: Re: Organs for a lifetime From: Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire <stops@globalnet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:24:36 GMT   At 08:49 PM 1/19/98 -0500, W. G. Chapman wrote: >GRS Co LVR wrote: >> ... I can remember hearing years ago ... >> that the average person purchases 3 organs in their lifetime, if serious >> about it... > >I must be older than I thought. I have purchased four. > >Grant Chapman   That makes me almost like Methusela.... I've lost count, apart from Pipe Organs, where I now have my fourth in the building stage???   Larry Larry    
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil & Diane From: dougcampbell@juno.com (Douglas A. Campbell) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:35:22 EST     On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:21:19 -0800 Dave Pitzer <dpitzer@sonic.net> writes: <snip> >Those who defend him almost always make a reference to how he was able >to >"pack" a church/recital hall -- the assumption being that he >introduced a >lot of people to the organ and organ music. This further assumes that >the >crowd remembered the sound and/or the music for any length of time. >Probably most did not; they went to *see* Virgil, not to hear music. I beg to differ with Mr. Pizter's assessment of the Virgil Fox concerts OR his impact on the organ music and it's popularity.   Having ATTENDED a "Fox Night Out" in person I can tell you that , Yes people DID come to see him - but left only after hearing him! And hear him - they did !   They not only heard the music, but they also heard the "passion" that Virgil conveyed in both the music actually played and even in his commentary!   I know of many people that attended his "Joe's Lights" extravaganzias only to see the "show". Now many years later - they have extensive CD collections - with VERY FEW classical recording - but they DO have organ music - 'cause they still remember that incredible impact that Virgil had upon their lives.   I have two friends that are now Virgil Fox fans - that NEVER attended a concert! They were "converted" just by listening to my record collection. !   So, Virgil was NOT conventional - NOT reserved - and NOT ineffectual !   As far as Diane Bish goes - Many of the "less than gracious" comments I have heard about her on this list are almost word for word the same comments I heard about Virgil in the late 1960's ! I think there are far too many jealous - radical purist - close minded organists out there - and I think that that kind of attitude is far more harmful to the world of organs than almost anything else!   It was that same "purist/ closed minded" attitude that led to the widescale distruction of many fine instruments during the 60's while the "musically correct" were oh so busy embracing the Neo-Baroque style as the return to the holy truth, when in fact, it has been Diane Bish that has taken us to the historic organs of Eurpoe to actually hear what the masters actually played ! And , at least to my ear, those organs are substantially different that the 1960's Neo-Baroque wonders !"   While, I understand that some organists had real , discussable differences with Virgil's interpretations - they were just that differences of opinion. With Ms. Bish - I haven't heard ONE WORD concerning her playing ability, style, or interpretations - only snide comments about her choice of dress and a crack about her compositions.   If you didn't like Virgil - too bad !   If you don't like Diane Bish - start your own TV show and show us how to do it right! (in YOUR opinion).     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY       >I recently [perhaps a year ago] had the rare opportunity to speak with >a >Fox recital attendee from sometime in the late 50's -early 60's [at >Riverside Church in NYC]. I asked this person [now in his fifties] >what Mr. >Fox played at this recital: absolutely no idea. I asked if he had any >Bach >recordings: Yes! the Brandenburg Concerto [sic]. I asked if he had any >pipe >organ recordings: No, reminded him too much of weddings and funerals. >But >he had seen Virgil and remembered this ocassion vividly -- except for >the >music, obviously. > >Virgil was a personality first, a musician second. Nothing wrong with >that. >But I strongle suspect that he did NOT introduce -- in a meaningful >way -- >a large number of people to organs or organ music. The notion that he >was >an ambassador for organ music is, in the face of history, silly and >ought >to be put to rest. > >Incidentally, at about the same time as the person above, I attended >an >organ recital at the chapel at Princeton University. Don't recall the >organist but I heard the music of Alain for the first time at this >recital. >I'll never forget it -- the music, that is. > >David Pitzer > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil & Diane From: SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:00:56 EST   In a message dated 98-01-20 18:50:11 EST, dougcampbell@juno.com writes:   << If you didn't like Virgil - too bad ! If you don't like Diane Bish - start your own TV show and show us how to do it right! (in YOUR opinion). >>     Amen, and Amen!!  
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil From: Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:39:18 -0500   Dave Pitzer wrote: >   > Probably most did not; they went to *see* Virgil, not to hear music. Virgil > was the attraction. The music rolled off most attendees brains like water > off a duck's back. >   ---> I had the chance to see (and hear) Virgil Fox, both at his "Heavy Organ" extravaganzas, as well at a "straight" concert (The Bach Gamut at the Kennedy Center, which I believe was sold out weeks before the event). He was equally at home at either instrument (as well as the harpsichord), and could still draw incredible things out the instrument at hand. (As a matter of fact, I have a recording of Virgil playing hymns on a Hammond... sure didn't sound like some Hammonds I've known...)   Otto  
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil & Diane From: Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:45:50 -0500   Douglas A. Campbell wrote:   > If you didn't like Virgil - too bad ! > > If you don't like Diane Bish - start your own TV show and show us how to > do it right! (in YOUR opinion). >   ---> Bravo, Doug! Listening to Virgil Fox taught me how to "sense" and "feel" the spirit of the music. Listening to some other's recordings makes me wonder if there wasn't perhaps a cyborg playing the pieces. :)   Otto  
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil & Diane From: GRS Co LVR <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:44:51 EST   It appears fairly easy to me to separate the list people that just have *heard* Virgil Fox, and never *saw* Virgil Fox. Doug Campbell says it all in my opinion. He was a friend of mine, and I travelled anywhere within reasonable driving range of New York City (read: up to 2 days) to see and hear him play. Yes, he was one to invoke controversy No, he did not play compositions *note and phrase* perfect,,,,but play he did,,and like no other in my opinion. There are those who thought he was a bit *much* in person,,,,and perhaps he was, but he delighted in being controversial, and loved every minute of it in my opinion. Hearing him play "Come Sweet Death" on the Wanamaker organ,,with nearly 100 ranks of string pipes shimmering in the Grand Court always raised the hackles on my spine,,,but any other organist that I heard play it with essentially the same registration did not leave that impression. We are imperfect people in an imperfect world,,,so why criticize another persons methods. You just had to be there. That was what it was all about in my opinion. As I mentioned above, its pretty easy to detect those persons *just listening* from those who were there,,,and after all,,,that is what a performer is all about isn't it.... Been there,heard that, loved it,,and would go again 'twere it possible.....   Roc