PipeChat Digest #215 - Sunday, January 25, 1998
 
Re: MIDI vs copyright
  by Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire <stops@globalnet.co.uk>
Re: T?&F?
  by o\r fiol <fiol@bway.net>
Re: How about this one?(Ice Storm Damage)
  by CJSD <noto@river.netrover.com>
Norbert Krausz, Krause, Kraucz
  by <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Re: How about this one?
  by Randolph Runyon <runyonr@po.muohio.edu>
Re: How about this one?
  by Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Weekend in Chicago
  by Jon C. Habermaas <opus1100@ameritech.net>
Re: How about this one?
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Generators
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Blowers (used to be Re: Generators)
  by Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: How about this one?
  by Randolph Runyon <runyonr@po.muohio.edu>
Re: How about this one?
  by Randolph Runyon <runyonr@po.muohio.edu>
theatreorgans.com
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
DVTOS
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
T?&F?
  by OrganAngel <OrganAngel@aol.com>
Re: Generators
  by Jon C. Habermaas <opus1100@ameritech.net>
Re: MIDI vs copyright
  by KARL W KELLER <kwkeller@juno.com>
Re: Generators
  by <PipeLuvr@aol.com>
Value of a Rodgers 340; circa mid '70s - Cross Posted
  by Gregory F. Klingler <klingler@IDT.NET>
Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland
  by Barry and Claire Bodie <bbodie@InfoAve.Net>
Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland
  by SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com>
Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland
  by Stanley E Yoder <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Re: MIDI vs copyright
  by FireAlarmz <FireAlarmz@aol.com>
Re: Generators
  by Sean Haley <newgershwin@hotmail.com>
Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland
  by Sean Haley <newgershwin@hotmail.com>
Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland
  by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com>
Re: Generators
  by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com>
Re: Generators-poor word choice
  by Sean Haley <newgershwin@hotmail.com>
Parts for a Gulbransen
  by Sean Haley <newgershwin@hotmail.com>
Re: Parts for a Gulbransen
  by ComposerTX <ComposerTX@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: MIDI vs copyright From: Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire <stops@globalnet.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:53:44 GMT   At 04:16 AM 1/24/98 -0600, o\r fiol wrote: >All this talk about copyright law inspires me to remind you guys ....   I work full time in an industry where we have to be fully aware, and advise our Clients, on, and of, the Laws of Copyright, not just for live performancs, but for public performances of recorded material.   The Copyright Law in Europe is quite specific when it comes to the PERFORMANCE OF MUSIC IN PUBLIC.   It is the PUBLIC PERFORMANCE for which you pay up to all of the 3 bodies in Britain their Copyright dues depending upon the type of performance.   In the case of recorded material, you may only reproduce the ORIGINAL Recorded material, WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL EQUALISATION or Signal Processing of any kind which alters the overall effect of the content, after ensuring you have a License do to so. You may not make a Copy (onto ANY Medium) and play that copy IN PUBLIC - U N L E S S - you have the prior written permission of the copyright holder to do so.   In the Case of LIVE PERFORMANCES - (the main subject of this List) - the Laws in Europe are slightly more 'permissive' (am I allowed to use that word? <g>).   You pay Copyright Dues upon the PUBLIC PERFORMANCE of a work. It doesn't matter to the PRS whether you have bought / borrowed / or stolen the music from which you learned the piece and, then either memorised it, arranged it, photocopied it, or whatever, because at the end of the day you are 'PLAYING IT', and it is the Performance which is taxed or licensed.   In Europe, it is the responsibility of the VENUE to ensure that they have the necessary licenses, and pay the relevant Fees and Dues, not the performer.   The Laws of Copyright MAY be slightly different in the USA and Canada, but I believe them to be very similar to the British and EC European.   It is interesting to note, that since the recent change in time periods for which Copyright exists after a composers death, that many pieces currently played in both the classical and secular worlds are now covered AGAIN by copyright for example, all of Elgar's works are now back into the Copyright domain. Effectively, if a piece was written within the last 140 years, there is a VERY GOOD CHANCE that it is now protected.   Hope this clears up things for some folks.   Larry    
(back) Subject: Re: T?&F? From: "o\r fiol" <fiol@bway.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 07:41:09 -0600   Toccatas were being written about one hundered years before Bach's first was written. They are mostly showy pieces for keyboard. The Italian name referrs to toccare or to touch. They are usually relatively aimless in form and wander around through various keys. In these pieces, the focus is usually on virtuosity and a little drama. Barroque toccatas stop and start a lot, while later Romantic toccatas tend to be more like perpetuo mobile pieces. Hope this helps.   Orlando    
(back) Subject: Re: How about this one?(Ice Storm Damage) From: CJSD <noto@river.netrover.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 09:46:00 -0500 (EST)     >For organ chat I am wondering if pipe organ websites out of Canada have >been disrupted by the ice storm there. Having trouble accessing these. >     Gober Organs Inc., in Toronto is still on the web at:   http://www.netrover.com/~noto/gober/index.htm   We are only about 150 miles from the edge of the storm damage. If you're have trouble accesing our page, let me know.   The worst hit areas are directly around Ste Hyacinthe, Quebec. Many Canadian organbuilders have been affected. These include Casavant Freres, Fernard Letorneau (the organ builder), Danny Letorneau (the pipe maker), Denis Juget, Karl Wilhelm, Guilbaut- Therrien, and others. I'm sure many of their orders and shop productions have fallen behind by at least three weeks. There are sill parts of Quebec without power.   Have a good day.       ************************************************************ Simon Dyk Toronto Canada   GOBER ORGANS INC. http://www.netrover.com/~noto/gober/index.htm CHURCH OF THE TRANSFIGURATION http://www.interlog.com/~transfig/trans.htm PERSONAL HOME PAGE: http://www.netrover.com/~noto/gober/~noto.html      
(back) Subject: Norbert Krausz, Krause, Kraucz From: ComposerTX@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:14:48 EST   I have lost track of an acquaintance, Norbert, not sure of the spelling of his last name. In 1992, he was organist at a congregational church in Belleville, Illinois. Any leads to e-mail, or address, or telephone number would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Danny Ray ComposerTX@AOL.com  
(back) Subject: Re: How about this one? From: runyonr@po.muohio.edu (Randolph Runyon) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:11:18 -0500   >I know this is unrelated, but it is not very long (well, one word is). >Try pronouncing this word: > >Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. > >Anyway, it means: an obscure term ostensibly referring to a lung disease >caused by silica dust, sometimes cited as one of the longest words in >the English language. > >For now, > >Kevin Cartwright >kevin1@alaweb.com   OFF-TOPIC, KEVIN!!   Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu Organist and Music Director, Norwood Christian Church (Cincinnati, OH) Professor of French, Miami University (Oxford, OH)      
(back) Subject: Re: How about this one? From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:46:05 -0500   (snip)... > >caused by silica dust, sometimes cited as one of the longest words in > >the English language. > > > >For now, > > > >Kevin Cartwright > >kevin1@alaweb.com > > OFF-TOPIC, KEVIN!! > > Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu         et tu, Randy?   ....Stan...et al....  
(back) Subject: Weekend in Chicago From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:54:38 -0600   Someone on pipechat asked last night about things to see in Chicago on the weekend. I should have asked if he meant this weekend. William Ayelesworth, organist at Scottish Rite Cathedral & Medinah Temple is giving a recital at 3PM this Sunday January 25th on the 5M/92RK Austin at Medinah Temple. Concert is open to the public and there is no admission. Medinah Temple is located just north of Chicago loop at 600 N. Wabash..corner of Ohio and Wabash.   joncharles  
(back) Subject: Re: How about this one? From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:44:46 -0500     >>Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.<<   >OFF-TOPIC, KEVIN!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well, if you take the first couple of letters and rearrange them, you get.......   Pneumonou------Pneum-atic   As in Pneumatic actions that were big in Europe in I forget, but I like them.   I'm in that kind of mood today. That was supose to be a joke. SO LAUGH!!!!!  
(back) Subject: Generators From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:54:40 -0500   My father just just purchased a Homelite LR Series Generator yesterday. I looked at the other model he got with it, and notice a generator that could power your whole house.   I just got the organ back on-line a week ago after having a MAJOR power outage from 'Ice Storm '98 ' (New York-Maine) and was wondering if there is a way to hook up the organ to the generator and heating to it also. Because the organ was not used for 2 weeks and the tempurature droped -0 for about half a week, the leather is in very bad condition now. I have notes that are dead C & C# (pun intended). The organ HAS to be played at least every three days or you have some more notes go dead. I've got a blower that is 220vac, and the rectifyer that is 117vac (runs on)-15vdc (that's the output). I've also got another circut that I don't know what it does, and am trying to figure it out.   Anyways, Could I possible hook the organ up to the generator so I don't have any more notes go dead on me??? Yes. The generator DOES have a 220 outlet on it, and it also has several 125vac outlets on it.   Just wondering. I know that you would have to keep the generator OUTSIDE to keep the exhaus t away from the organ. Tha blower has an indoor air intake and takes the sir form the chamber.   Later for now.............   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Blowers (used to be Re: Generators) From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:41:41 -0600   Jason D. Comet wrote: > ...to keep the exhaus t away from the organ. Tha blower has an indoor air > intake and takes the sir form the chamber... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   Our organbuilders made our blower draw from the OUTSIDE (Stuart, you've heard me gripe about this already). In the winter, the organ is always bad out of tune during a freeze. In the summer, you have to wait for the sanctuary to be fully air-conditioned BEFORE you turn on organ on. Stupid or what?   Kevin Cartwright kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: Re: How about this one? From: runyonr@po.muohio.edu (Randolph Runyon) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 12:57:42 -0500     >et tu, Randy? > >...Stan...et al.... >     Yeah, all right. Hadn't had my coffee yet. I'll try to be more cheerful in future.   Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu Organist and Music Director, Norwood Christian Church (Cincinnati, OH) Professor of French, Miami University (Oxford, OH)      
(back) Subject: Re: How about this one? From: runyonr@po.muohio.edu (Randolph Runyon) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:00:13 -0500   >>>Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.<< > >>OFF-TOPIC, KEVIN!! >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Well, if you take the first couple of letters and rearrange them, you >get....... > > Pneumonou------Pneum-atic > >As in Pneumatic actions that were big in Europe in I forget, but I like >them. > >I'm in that kind of mood today. That was supose to be a joke. SO >LAUGH!!!!!     Very good. Kind of reminds me of that other thread one of these church music listserves going the rounds lately about how there's no such thing as bad music, just unfinished music. You nicely finished Kevin's post, making it relevant.   Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu Organist and Music Director, Norwood Christian Church (Cincinnati, OH) Professor of French, Miami University (Oxford, OH)      
(back) Subject: theatreorgans.com From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:18:51   Hiya, folks:   I first of all wanted to congratulate whoever it is maintains the http://theatreorgans.com/ page (Jerrell Kautz, is it?). It is a huge site, and very well organized.   And then secondly, I wanted to encourage any of you interested in the TO to visit the site, especially the Wanamaker page at http://theatreorgans.com/pa/philly/WANN . Lots of pictures, and history there.   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: DVTOS From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:02:33   Sorry for the off-topic, geographically specific post, BUT:   Would an officer of the Delaware Valley Chapter of ATOS please contact me in email? Thanks.   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: T?&F? From: OrganAngel <OrganAngel@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:34:52 EST   Hello again!   Thank you to everyone who helped me!   Take care, Lauren  
(back) Subject: Re: Generators From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:38:05 -0600   Jason D. Comet wrote: > > My father just just purchased a Homelite LR Series Generator yesterday. > I looked at the other model he got with it, and notice a generator that > could power your whole house. > > I just got the organ back on-line a week ago after having a MAJOR power > outage from 'Ice Storm '98 ' (New York-Maine) and was wondering if there > is a way to hook up the organ to the generator and heating to it also. > Because the organ was not used for 2 weeks and the tempurature droped -0 > for about half a week, the leather is in very bad condition now. I have > notes that are dead C & C# (pun intended). The organ HAS to be played at > least every three days or you have some more notes go dead. I've got a > blower that is 220vac, and the rectifyer that is 117vac (runs on)-15vdc > (that's the output). I've also got another circut that I don't know what > it does, and am trying to figure it out. > > Anyways, Could I possible hook the organ up to the generator so I don't > have any more notes go dead on me??? Yes. The generator DOES have a 220 > outlet on it, and it also has several 125vac outlets on it. > > Just wondering. I know that you would have to keep the generator OUTSIDE > to keep the exhaus t away from the organ. Tha blower has an indoor air > intake and takes the sir form the chamber. > > Later for now............. > > Jason Comet   Jason,   This is an inherently BAD IDEA for a number of reasons. Primarily due to possible Shock Hazard, fire hazard or damage to organ blower and rectifier. To do this would require Jury Rigging cables from the generator to the blower power and this could be a potential fire hazard, not to mention if not exactly hooked up correctly or has correct power requirement could damage the blower. There are alot of variables involved. Emergency generators are very beneficial for maintaining necessities such as heat or refrigeration during a major outage. We used a emergency generators for a week to keep a TV station on the air in downtown Chicago (during the Great Chicago flood) As for the organ..dead notes are usually caused by dirty key contacts. If you can't play it for sometime...play the heck out of it when you can. If it weren't for the organ not be playable maybe Hans Gruber would never have given us "Silent Night"   Good Luck..enjoy reading your postings,   Jon C. Habermaas  
(back) Subject: Re: MIDI vs copyright From: kwkeller@juno.com (KARL W KELLER) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 15:54:31 EST   It is interesting to note Larry's comment on the 140 year rule. This is one of the biggest rip offs of all time and one of the reasons I have no respect for Copyright laws in general. I'd like to see just ONE law, that being the all Copyrights be limited to 10 years world-wide. We live in an age where we have TOO MANY LAWS.   Karl Musica est Dei donum optimi   On Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:53:44 GMT Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire <stops@globalnet.co.uk> writes: > >It is interesting to note, that since the recent change in time periods for >which Copyright exists after a composers death, that many pieces currentl played in both the classical and secular worlds are now covered AGAIN by copyright for example, all of Elgar's works are now back into the Copyrightdomain. Effectively, if a piece was written within the last 140 years,there is a VERY GOOD CHANCE that it is now protected. > >Hope this clears up things for some folks. > >Larry > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Generators From: PipeLuvr@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:55:27 EST   <HTML><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" SIZE=3>In a message dated 98-01-24 14:41:16 EST, you write:<BR> <BR> > Anyways, Could I possible hook the organ up to the generator so I don't<BR> > > have any more notes go dead on me??? <BR> <BR> <BR> Hi Jason!<BR> <BR> While your efforts to keep the organ playing are commendable, I recommend that you NOT try the idea of trying to power an organ blower via a generator for the following reasons.<BR> <BR> (1) Even though the generator may have a 220 volt outlet, most portable generators are not capable of handling either run or starting current (amps) pulled by typical organ blowers. Accordingly, the generator would either smoke or its voltage pulled so low that the organ rectifier and blower could both be permanently damaged. <BR> <BR> (2) If your organ uses electrified pneumatics, you would have to provide additional emergency power to run the organ rectifier to obtain your keying voltage for the magnets and if you use an electronic relay in your installation portable generator voltage spikes could zap the integrated circuits commonly found on the relay boards.<BR> <BR> (3) Many organ blowers are three Phase 220 or 440 volts. If your blower is three phase you would have to acquire a special capacitor to "fool" the organ blower into seeing three phases so that it could start.<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#FFFFFF" SIZE=3>All in all, the organ is probably better off to wait out the ice storm until the return of permanent power.<BR> <BR> <FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" SIZE=3>I commend you for your interest in preserving your organ, and appreciate your willingness to ask others for advice and counsel prior to jumping off into this project. Many of us who are much older that you have not learned that lesson!<BR> <BR> Best wishes,<BR> <BR> Bob <BR> <BR> </HTML>  
(back) Subject: Value of a Rodgers 340; circa mid '70s - Cross Posted From: "Gregory F. Klingler" <klingler@IDT.NET> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:59:42 -0500   Hi,   Looking for the current value of a Rodgers 340 in good shape. Any Ideas?   Thanks,   Greg    
(back) Subject: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland From: Barry and Claire Bodie <bbodie@InfoAve.Net> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:41:45 -0500   Does anyone know the fate of the Skinner organ in the chancel of the Cathedral. It has been mentioned several times over the last two years, but nobody has mentioned whether or not it is playable. It is my understanding that the organ itself is still in place, but is not playable. There was also some commentary about the Tuba Mirabilis being located beneath the floor of the nave, speaking through grills in the floor. Does anyone happen to have a stoplist?  
(back) Subject: Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:20:43 -0500   >Does anyone know the fate of the Skinner organ in the chancel of the >Cathedral. It has been mentioned several times over the last two >years, >but nobody has mentioned whether or not it is playable. It is my >understanding that the organ itself is still in place, but is not >playable. There was also some commentary about the Tuba Mirabilis >being >located beneath the floor of the nave, speaking through grills in the >floor. Does anyone happen to have a stoplist? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sounds interesting, But about the Tuba Miribilis in the floor, tell me more please, I'm curious. Wouldn't it get dirty and have problems with the dirt from peoples shoes fall into the reeds????? I would like to know more about this. I guess that would help with space inthe balcony if you wanted a nave organ. I guess that you could LITERALLY call it a nave organ if it was in the floor instead of the wall or balcony. ;-)   That still makes........Well, I don't know................... Speachless? A Tuba Miribilis in the floor????????????????????????????????   OH Well, Later....................................................   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland From: SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:31:49 EST   In a message dated 98-01-24 20:46:30 EST, bbodie@InfoAve.Net writes:   << Does anyone know the fate of the Skinner organ in the chancel of the Cathedral. >>   I'd be very interested in this subject, too. Those in the know please Pipe Up!   Randy T  
(back) Subject: Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland From: Stanley E Yoder <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:36:23 -0500 (EST)   Excerpts from mail: 24-Jan-98 Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cl.. by Jason D. Comet@juno.com > But about the Tuba Miribilis in the floor, tell me > more please, I'm curious. Wouldn't it get dirty and have problems with > the dirt from peoples shoes fall into the reeds????? I would like to > know more about this.   E.M., in his "The Modern Organ" (1917, c'right renewed 1945, H.W. Gray, NYC), has a drawing of this installation (p.40). Below the floor grill is a angled concrete reflector. The tuba is in a chamber under the floor with swell shades in a vertical partition, facing the reflector. Tone exiting through the shades is thus reflected upward to the grill. Detritus falling through said grill rolls down the reflector to a narrow opening or 'trap' between it and the swell-shades, thence to the floor under the reflector. His conclusion: "This is a remarkably successful installation." Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: MIDI vs copyright From: FireAlarmz <FireAlarmz@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:08:59 EST   Karl Keller-   RIGHT ON! Greed knows no bounds.   I gave a couple recitals in the '80s at a church in Melrose Park (suburban Phila.) PA with ALL proceeds given to the Lutheran World Hunger Appeal- volunteer on my part. The ASCAP group was on us like vultures, demanding payment for any non public- domain works. We tried to point out that no admission was charged, to no avail. The second time this happened, the treasurer bitterly asked ASCAP if they would have us dip into the offering to pay the ASCAP fee, and was told they had no interest in how we paid them or from where. I got a VERY bad taste in my mouth for the fees/copyright/license stuff. The follwoing year we discontinued the programs, since I could not see myself using public domain material exclusively.   Bill Miller, First Presbyterian, Trenton NJ  
(back) Subject: Re: Generators From: "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:35:43 PST   Jason- From an electrical point of view it is possible to connect the blower to a generator provided that the Voltage and the Amperage of the generator at least match what the blower will need to run properly. Connecting the rectifier into the same generator as the blower is not a good idea. Most generators are designed to do 120 volts or 220 volts, but rarely both at the same time. Unless the blower has a plug that will fit your generator and is not directly wired to the electrical mains, it is best just to leave it. You can help the organ more by keeping it warm then you can by trying to run it. Also, unless you can heat the organ or the room it is in all at the same time you may do more damage than you already have (glue joints separating, wood warping, etc).   Sean Haley       ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland From: "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:48:40 PST         >In a message dated 98-01-24 20:46:30 EST, bbodie@InfoAve.Net writes: > Does anyone know the fate of the Skinner organ in the chancel of the > Cathedral. >> >I'd be very interested in this subject, too. Those in the know please Pipe Up! >Randy T   Yes, I hope someone will. I too am fascinated by the idea of a Skinner Tuba Miriblis speaking through the floor. Via tone chute perhaps? Could be interesting.   Sean Haley   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:01:54 EST   In a message dated 98-01-24 21:57:22 EST, you write:   << E.M., in his "The Modern Organ" (1917, c'right renewed 1945, H.W. Gray, NYC), has a drawing of this installation (p.40). Below the floor grill is a angled concrete reflector. The tuba is in a chamber under the floor with swell shades in a vertical partition, facing the reflector. Tone exiting through the shades is thus reflected upward to the grill. Detritus falling through said grill rolls down the reflector to a narrow opening or 'trap' between it and the swell-shades, thence to the floor under the reflector. >>   Way neat!!  
(back) Subject: Re: Generators From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:05:11 EST   Well most of us are not electricians.   I'm an engineer, not an electrician.   THIS IS AN ELECTRICIAN QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   If you want emergency power for you instrument, and you have questions about it, ASK AN ELECTRICIAN!!!!!!   It can be done. It can be done well. It can be done safely. BY AN ELECTRICIAN.   CALL AN ELECTRICIAN!!   Lengthy rational available on request.  
(back) Subject: Re: Generators-poor word choice From: "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:19:22 PST   Ooops, In the last sentence of a note to Jason regarding connecting a blower to a generator, it may have sounded like I was accusing him of causing damage to the instrument. This was not my intention. Part of that sentence was left off in my hurry to finish reading the rest of my mail. It should have read... If you do not heat the organ or the room it is in evenly at the same time, you may end up causing more problems than the organ may already have. I also must commend him for his interest in keeping an instrument in good playable condition, as well as him asking for suggestions to better the instrument rather than jumping in to it with out professional advice from the list's more qualified people. I wish some of the churches that I have played at would have such an enthusiastic person trying to keep their organs in better condition. Sorry for any confusion my poor typing skills may have caused.   Sean Haley         ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Parts for a Gulbransen From: "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:28:40 PST   To those that may know,   Would anyone know where I may get replacement parts and circuitry for my Gulbransen Rialto II (model 828)? The organ has not played in several months due to deteriorating components. I have unplugged it in attempt to preserve what few things still work. Thanks to anyone that may have any advice.   Sean Haley <newgershwin@hotmail.com>       ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Parts for a Gulbransen From: ComposerTX <ComposerTX@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:56:50 EST   Try these guys in houston Rogers Adams just bought one and he may know   try: WILLSONR TIBVOX POSTHORN16   all at AOL.com hope that helps Danny Ray