PipeChat Digest #219 - Tuesday, January 27, 1998
 
Re: Sagging languids
  by SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com>
From Today's Sydney Morning Herald
  by Sheridan Mascall <sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au>
"It's funny that you should mention that . . ."
  by CJSD <noto@river.netrover.com>
T.O. Pipework facades?
  by George W. Jenista <hiplain@flash.net>
Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland
  by George W. Jenista <hiplain@flash.net>
Re: From Today's Sydney Morning Herald
  by ComposerTX <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Sagging languids
  by Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net>
Re: Sagging languids
  by Timothy Patterson <timp@usinternet.com>
Re: Organ in a box?
  by Frank Johnson <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
Re: Organ in a box
  by Frank Johnson <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
Re: Organ in a box
  by Frank Johnson <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
Re: Sagging languids
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Sagging languids
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: T.O. Pipework facades?
  by Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire <stops@globalnet.co.uk>
Re: Organ in a box?
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: T.O. Pipework facades?
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Sagging languids
  by Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: T.O. Pipework facades?
  by Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Re: Sagging languids
  by Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net>
Re: Midiscan  Was: Re: Printable BWV CD.....
  by Russ Greene <russg@cyberspc.mb.ca>
Re: Sagging languids
  by RMaryman <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Sagging languids
  by Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire <stops@globalnet.co.uk>
Re: Moller Organs
  by SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com>
Re: Sagging languids
  by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com>
Re: new light on an old topic
  by CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com>
Re: T.O. Pipework facades?
  by Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Sagging languids From: SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:07:11 EST   I HAVE heard of sagging languids in Moller pipework, and if I remember correctly it was a church in Louisville, KY that had the problem. Perhaps the problem could be corrected by having a voicer "re-adjust" their position.   I have found that the more "baroque" an instrument is voiced, the more adjustments have to me made in the pipes from time to time. Once you correct the problem, you will just have to keep on it so it doesn't get as bad as it is now.   RandyT.  
(back) Subject: From Today's Sydney Morning Herald From: sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au (Sheridan Mascall) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:23:21 +1100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BD2B82.F0E4A0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   A WEDDING to remember. Michelle Farrell, of Emu Plains, was on her way = to wed Dave Parry at St Finbar's, Glenbrook, on Saturday, when the car = radiator punctured. Thirty minutes late at the church, and the service = went ahead. Just as the vows were exchanged and the priest was to = pronounce them man and wife, voices came from above - flashes of = lightning, claps of thunder and a downpour of rain. All scurried through = the storm to the reception at a local civic centre. Barely under way, = there was a fat fire in the kitchen and the fire brigade was called. And = that's how the Parrys have wedding pictures to remember - the bridal = party posed with grinning firemen on the fire engine, Dave wearing a = fireman's hat.               .... my question is, what should the organist charge? :)       Stirring the flames,   ~Sheridan~         ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BD2B82.F0E4A0E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#a6caf0> <DIV> <P><BOD><B>A WEDDING </B>to remember. Michelle Farrell, of Emu Plains, = was on=20 her way to wed Dave Parry at St Finbar's, Glenbrook, on Saturday, when = the car=20 radiator punctured. Thirty minutes late at the church, and the service = went=20 ahead. Just as the vows were exchanged and the priest was to pronounce = them man=20 and wife, voices came from above - flashes of lightning, claps of = thunder and a=20 downpour of rain. All scurried through the storm to the reception at a = local=20 civic centre. Barely under way, there was a fat fire in the kitchen and = the fire=20 brigade was called. And that's how the Parrys have wedding pictures to = remember=20 - the bridal party posed with grinning firemen on the fire engine, Dave = wearing=20 a fireman's hat.</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D1>... my question = is, what=20 should the organist charge? :)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Comic Sans MS" = size=3D1></FONT>&nbsp;</P> <P><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D1>Stirring the=20 flames,</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Comic Sans MS" = size=3D1>~Sheridan~</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20 size=3D1></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BD2B82.F0E4A0E0--    
(back) Subject: "It's funny that you should mention that . . ." From: CJSD <noto@river.netrover.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:49:22 -0500 (EST)   Dear List:     This came accross the desk. I had to share it with someone.   Two Jewish gentlemen, long-time friends, happened to meet, and one noticed that the other seemed depressed. "What's wrong?" he asked "There's terrible trouble in my family, " the first fellow said. "I sent my son to Israel so that he would come home a better Jew and believe it or not, he came home a Christian." "It's funny that you should mention that," said the second man. "Exactly the same thing happened to me. I sent my son to Israel so that he'd become a better Jew, and he too, came home a Christian." They both decided to seek the advice of their rabbi. They went and told their rabbi what had happened in their families. "It's funny that you should mention that," said the rabbi, "because exactly the same thing happened in our family. I sent my only son to Israel in hope that he would become a better Jew, and, believe it not, he also came home a Christian." At that, the three men fell to their knees, and with tears streaming down their faces, addressed God the Father Almighty directly. When each of them told the Lord their stories, they heard a voice from heaven reply: "It's funny that you should mention that . . ."   By permission Steve Allen and The Joyful Noiseletter.     To get back on topic,   The dedication recital of the Richmond Hill United Church rebuild takes place on February 15th at 7 pm. More details to follow.   ************************************************************ Simon Dyk Toronto Canada   GOBER ORGANS INC. http://www.netrover.com/~noto/gober/index.htm CHURCH OF THE TRANSFIGURATION http://www.interlog.com/~transfig/trans.htm PERSONAL HOME PAGE: http://www.netrover.com/~noto/gober/~noto.html      
(back) Subject: T.O. Pipework facades? From: "George W. Jenista" <hiplain@flash.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:50:14 -0800   Have there ever been theater pipe-organ installations with exposed {working} pipework in facade, as opposed to being totally enclosed/under expression? Thanks!   George Jenista  
(back) Subject: Re: Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland From: "George W. Jenista" <hiplain@flash.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:58:51 -0800   >In a message dated 98-01-24 20:46:30 EST, bbodie@InfoAve.Net writes: > Does anyone know the fate of the Skinner organ in the chancel of the > Cathedral. >> ...snip... << E.M., in his "The Modern Organ" (1917, c'right renewed 1945, H.W. > Gray, NYC), has a drawing of this installation (p.40).>   Is there a stoplist???  
(back) Subject: Re: From Today's Sydney Morning Herald From: ComposerTX <ComposerTX@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:30:23 EST   MORE . . . the organist should charge MORE. <g> Danny Ray  
(back) Subject: Sagging languids From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@dave-world.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:56:03 -0800   On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:11:12 -0500, Bruce Cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> wrote:   > Does anyone have experience with vintage 1982-ish M P Mollers with the > problem of sagging languids in the bass pipes.   <snippage>   > I have been at this church for three months, and no one else has noted > this problem (the tuner included).   Bruce and Listers,   This was a common problem for Mollers especially from the early 1970's until nearly the end of this firm's history. It has to do with the quality of the zinc that was available/used during that period. The metal was too soft for its own good and would sag under its own weight.   You need a new tuner if he hasn't realized that there is a problem!   The sad thing is that there is really little that can be done for these other than to replace the pipes with better-built zincs. A QUALIFIED voicer with Languid rods can probably do a great deal to temporarily fix the problem, but it will eventually re-appear.   It may be possible, if the rest of the pipe is reasonably stable (that is to say; not sagging or "wilting") to re-languid the pipe, but this will be nearly half the cost of a new pipe to saw it apart and introduce a new languid, but knowing the problems these pipes have, it is certainly better to replace them than to throw money at them.   I wish I could bear better news!   Faithfully,   Richard Schneider, President SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders 41-43 Johnston Street P.O. Box 137 Kenney, Il 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX EMAIL: mailto:arpncorn@dave-world.net    
(back) Subject: Re: Sagging languids From: Timothy Patterson <timp@usinternet.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:59:25 -0600   At 08:07 AM 1/27/98 EST, you wrote: >I HAVE heard of sagging languids in Moller pipework, and if I remember >correctly it was a church in Louisville, KY that had the problem. Perhaps the >problem could be corrected by having a voicer "re-adjust" their position. > >I have found that the more "baroque" an instrument is voiced, the more >adjustments have to me made in the pipes from time to time. Once you correct >the problem, you will just have to keep on it so it doesn't get as bad as it >is now. > >RandyT. > > We had that problem here in MPLS. The factory at that time sent a team to revoice the pipes and install steel wires through the pipes under the languids to support them.   timp    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in a box? From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:30:53 -0600   >>The organ is an Austin organ of 6 or 7 rank, two manual console. >> It >>is all in an enclosure and the console is separate. What is this type >>of >>organ called? >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Could it possibly be called a "Free-Standing" organ? > >Jason Comet     I think that sounds logical. Thank you.   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in a box From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:31:40 -0600   >Most organs where all ranks are enclosed are said to have a General >Swell or are under general expression. I do not know of any specific >name for this design.     Thank you for the reply. I've had several and all were about the same.   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in a box From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:32:27 -0600   >In a message dated 98-01-17 15:25:27 EST, you write: > ><< Most organs where all ranks are enclosed are said to have a General > Swell or are under general expression. I do not know of any specific > name for this design. >> > >I believe that "general swell" is the correct term, though I have heard >several perjorative variations     Thank you very much. I've had several answers and all said about the same. Must be correct.   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: Sagging languids From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:04:25 -0500   Thanks Randy, My concern is that we will have this corrected only to have it recur again and again. Any clues as to the church in Louisville?? Thanks again,   bruce   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Sagging languids From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:37:21 -0500   Tim, What kind of resulting costs were there, and has the solution been lasting? What ranks were involved in the sagging?   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: T.O. Pipework facades? From: Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire <stops@globalnet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:44:08 GMT   At 10:50 AM 1/27/98 -0800, George W. Jenista wrote: >Have there ever been theater pipe-organ installations with exposed >{working} pipework in facade, as opposed to being totally enclosed/under >expression? Thanks! > The answer to your question is a 'qualified' Yes.   From the earliest days of organ installations in theatres and cinemas (including Drury Lane Theatre in London as played by Handel) there have been unenclosed divisions, pipe facades, etc.   Unfortunately, the organs so equipped were better placed to play classical music than their purpose designed theatre organ brethren, and were quickly scrapped, boarded up, or otherwise taken out of use.   The nature of the beast (I say that in a friendly way :-)) and the music performed in the Theatre or Cinema means that the entire organ MUST be expressive....   Larry    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ in a box? From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:06:41 -0500   >I think that sounds logical. Thank you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your Welcome. JC   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: T.O. Pipework facades? From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:03:56 -0500   >Have there ever been theater pipe-organ installations with exposed >{working} pipework in facade, as opposed to being totally >enclosed/under >expression? Thanks! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I've seen a Theatre installation once apon a time in Denver Colorado. There, they had 4 manual something rank 'Mighty Wurlitzer' Theatre Organ. They had there entire theatre organ inder expression with , get this, GLASS SWELL SHADES!!!!! I believe that Wicks Organ Company works with these. I also think that the Choral Ridge Presbyterian Church Ruffati organ also has Glass Swell Shade. I've heard of plenty of GOOD things about them. An d not a single bad thing beside that they shater if dropped. So, There is a suggestion for you if you are thinking of building a faceade. Later/........//././../...../....   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: Sagging languids From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:24:47 -0500   >This was a common problem for Mollers especially from the early 1970's >until nearly the end of this firm's history. It has to do with the >quality of the zinc that was available/used during that period. The >metal was too soft for its own good and would sag under its own >weight. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Is that why Moller Organs aren't in big use today????? I don't hear of many Moller organs that are famous today. They seem to have died away. But, however, if you look in the Classified section of The American Organst, there are usually at least ONE Moller organ for sale. Usually they say they need work. Sould you buy a Moller organ, or would it just be a wate of money.   No, I'm not concidering to buy one. I'm just curious. (Or: Curiosity killed the Cornet!!! :-) )   Just opened my latest edition and looked in the Classified Adds. 4 Moller organs and 1 Moller double Artiste.   Later and Thanks   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: T.O. Pipework facades? From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:28:02 -0500   If my memory serves me correctly, - and I am thinking back over 60 years ago! - the the Grand Kinema in the Edgeware Road, London, had such an organ. I can recall seeing the pipes on either side of the proscenium, and going to the pictures every week to enjoy the house organist between pictures playing everything that was popular in the mid thirties!   The old "Kinema" was torn down when they rebuilt the junction of the Harrow Road and the Edgeware Road, just along the Edgeware Road was the old Metropolitan Music Hall, where we would see all the greats of the day. I have an LP in my collection that has a photograph of the old "Met" on the album sleeve. It was there that I saw a lot of touring organists with their quickly assembled organs on stage.   Bob Conway     >At 10:50 AM 1/27/98 -0800, George W. Jenista wrote: >>Have there ever been theater pipe-organ installations with exposed >>{working} pipework in facade, as opposed to being totally enclosed/under >>expression? Thanks! >> >The answer to your question is a 'qualified' Yes. > >>From the earliest days of organ installations in theatres and cinemas >(including Drury Lane Theatre in London as played by Handel) there have been >unenclosed divisions, pipe facades, etc. > >Unfortunately, the organs so equipped were better placed to play classical >music than their purpose designed theatre organ brethren, and were quickly >scrapped, boarded up, or otherwise taken out of use. > >The nature of the beast (I say that in a friendly way :-)) and the music >performed in the Theatre or Cinema means that the entire organ MUST be >expressive.... > >Larry > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Sagging languids From: Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:41:52 -0500   bruce cornely wrote: > > Does anyone have experience with vintage 1982-ish M P Mollers with the > problem of sagging languids in the bass pipes.     ---> I played a 1988 Moller that the languids on the Gemshorn started sagging before the instrument was 2 years old...  
(back) Subject: Re: Midiscan Was: Re: Printable BWV CD..... From: Russ Greene <russg@cyberspc.mb.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 98 16:59:17 -0000   >>In the event that you never get a hold of this CD, there is a program >>called MIDISCAN which apparently will convert sheet music into standard >>midi files using a normal H.P. scanner. I've not tried the program myself, >>but since I'm totally blind, it would be very useful to me because >>relatively little print music has made it over to braille.   Scanning music doesn't work - at least not yet. If you want to get sheet music into standard midi files, play it in through a sequencer such as Mark of the Unicorn's "Performer". This is quick, easy and really works.   Regards, Russ Greene  
(back) Subject: Re: Sagging languids From: RMaryman <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:52:28 EST   Regarding Moller -   I know this was discussed in QUITE some detail on the other list so briefly:   Moller built MORE pipe organs that anyone, nearly 12,000 plus hundreds of rebuilds not in the official opus list (rebuilds were asssigned an "R" number that you will find stamped on the pouchboards and usually in the console). Moller went out of businees because of FINANCIAL MIS-MANAGEMENT, pure and simple. When they began to rise from the ashes (after the family sold the biz to a group of investors) they company grew Too Fast, with costs getting out of control, and contracts being under-bid (typical of Moller over a Loooong period of time). Now the name belong to our friends (?) in Macungie PA, and most of the paper archives belong to the OHS.   Moller went thru p[eriods of craftsmenship that were either wonderful or woeful, they were the only U S organ builder to be unionized, and tho they were NEVER a trendsetter, they DID offer a reasonably good value for the $$'s spent. Moller windchests and consoles are among the best, most long-lived ever made by anyone, and they are relatively (ith the exception of duplexed-pitman style) easy to rebuild.   Among my clients are more churches with Moller pipe organs that ANY other builder and I service organs from ALL of the major builders that are/were.   Rick Maryman  
(back) Subject: Re: Sagging languids From: Gordon Lucas & Larry McGuire <stops@globalnet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:25:26 GMT   At 03:24 PM 1/27/98 -0500, Jason D. Comet wrote: >>This was a common problem for Mollers especially from the early 1970's >>until nearly the end of this firm's history.   2 questions from the stateside enthusiasts -   1. When did Moller stop trading??   2. Just because their newer instruments appear to be not quite up to the mark, that doesn't mean that ALL of their pre-1970 organs were bad. Far from it, I believe they were among the better builders, were they not????   Larry      
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Organs From: SCoonrod <SCoonrod@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:46:33 EST   In a message dated 98-01-27 20:53:47 EST, stops@globalnet.co.uk writes:   << Just because their newer instruments appear to be not quite up to the mark, that doesn't mean that ALL of their pre-1970 organs were bad. Far from it, I believe they were among the better builders, were they not???? >> Actually, like most builders with a large output, Moller organs vary greatly in quality both of tone and construction. If you can get hold of a larger Moller from the 50's or early 60's you usually have quite a nice (although on the romantic side) instrument.   There was a period of time during the 70's at least when most of their instruments (at least those I know) seemed prety well "rough" as regards tonal finishing.   However, and this is a BIG however, IMHO, the organs from their final period, starting around 1986, I believe, are wonderful. Now with that said I am thinking about three instruments in particular.   1) St. Paul's Cathedral (RC) in Birmingham, AL. 4 man/@55 rk. with only Festival Trompette on man. 4- Donald Gillette voiced this one which is in a tall shallow case speaking into a jewell of a nave and 6 or so seconds of reverb. This was put in in '85, I think. Joseph Schreiber was consultant. Great sound!   2) Cathedral Church of the Advent (Ep) also in Bham. 4 man/100 rk. Designed by organist Stephen Schaeffer and voicer Daniel Angerstein, this organ contains a high percentage or revoiced older pipework and new pipework by Thomas Anderson and Trivo. Builders represented include Pilcher and Austin (from previous organs at the Cathedral) and E.M. Skinner, including all the goodies: Full Solo division, 32' Bombarde, etc.... Decent acoustics, burried pipework, but you can get some fabulous sounds. Just get all those 8's purring along with 32' Bourdon and the INDEPENDENT 16' , 8', and 4' pairs of celestes in the Solo. 'nuf said. Built in 1988.   3) A Smaller 3 man/ 40ish of around 1989 at St. Paul's Lutheran (LCMS) in Cullman, AL. Also designed in consultation with Joe Schreiber but voiced by Mr. Angerstein. VERY dead acoustics, and a voicing style while still squarly "American Classic" is more suited to the music of the German school. I found it also to be an excellent organ.   The only major complaints I have heard regard the slider chests which seem to have been a source of some trouble, but I don't know why/how much trouble they are/were. Hope this info wasn't completely boreing.   RandyT  
(back) Subject: Re: Sagging languids From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:45:29 EST   I'm having a hard time NOT posting a scatological reply to this thread . . .  
(back) Subject: Re: new light on an old topic From: CDKrug <CDKrug@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:42:34 EST   If I played the best pipe organ in the universe, I still wouldn't sound as good as   (insert name of your favorite player here)   If (insert name of your favorite player here) were to play the old analog I play each Sunday, s/he would sound better than I ever would in my wildest dreams.   I ride my bicycle with a club every summer. There are a few guys who spend hours and hours debating about whether various modifications to their bikes would make them faster. Till our resident speed demon replied, "It's not the bike, It's the rider!"   IOW talent + training beats equipment every day. (3% bodyfat doesn't hurt either)   Patrick Moraz was playing a clinic at NAMM a few years ago, but his equpiment hadn't arrived in time for the clinic. So he had to play some instruments that he'd borrowed from a couple of vendors. How did he sound? Amazing, he's Patrick Moraz. . . .   Be Swell and Great!  
(back) Subject: Re: T.O. Pipework facades? From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:13:30 -0600   George W. Jenista wrote: > > Have there ever been theater pipe-organ installations with exposed > {working} pipework in facade, as opposed to being totally enclosed/under > expression? Thanks! > > George Jenista > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   The Moller at the local Episcopal Church has a "working facade." There are only about three false pipes in the facade. But, these are the Open Diapason 8', so they are REALLY loud, and RIGHT in your face. Not, the best way to hear what you are playing!   Anyway,   Kevin Cartwright kevin1@alaweb.com