PipeChat Digest #437 - Thursday, July 2, 1998
 
Re: Mailing lists
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: Applause
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Re: Mailing lists
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Re: AGO Denver
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: Mailing lists
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@MediaOne.net>
What a find!
  by "W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net>
Re: Mailing lists
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: Mailing lists
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Re: Mailing Lists
  by "Vernon Moeller" <vernonm@ccsi.com>
Re: Weddings, Funerals, etc
  by "Vernon Moeller" <vernonm@ccsi.com>
A Question or Two
  by "Emily D. Woods" <sesquialtera@hotmail.com>
Re: AGO Denver
  by "Sheridan Mascall" <sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au>
Crystal Cathedral
  by "Jonathan Kroepel" <Jekroep@hrn.bradley.edu>
Another one....
  by "Shirley" <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Crystal Cathedral
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: A Question or Two
  by "Shirley" <pnst@itw.com>
Re: A Question or Two
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: Applause
  by "John F. Crowley" <jfjc@juno.com>
RE: Crystal Cathedral
  by "Charles Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net>
Re: Another one....
  by "Roger Pariseau" <grinder@west.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Mailing lists From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 09:47:59 -0700   >Can you advise me of any other organ mailing lists (other than >PIPORG-L and PIECHAT which I am already sbscribed to)   Hey! I wanna know where PIECHAT is!! :) Yummmmmmy Food for the Soul from the Organ lists is wonderful .. but Pies too! ummmm   ~~I'm sorry Jenny .. da Debil made me do it. ;0)   Ron Yost, Paso Robles, Calif.  
(back) Subject: Re: Applause From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:46:17 BST     Instead of encouraging applause in church, I prefer to educate the > congregation to the point where, when they are tempted to applaud, they will > send me money instead. > > Kurt   When I play, people aren't tempted to applaud, leave the building perhaps:( If I worked on your philosophy, I wouldn't have two brass farthings to rub together.      
(back) Subject: Re: Mailing lists From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:53:16 BST         > >Can you advise me of any other organ mailing lists (other than > >PIPORG-L and PIECHAT which I am already sbscribed to) > > Hey! I wanna know where PIECHAT is!! :) Yummmmmmy Food for the > Soul from the Organ lists is wonderful .. but Pies too! ummmm > > ~~I'm sorry Jenny .. da Debil made me do it. ;0) > > Ron Yost, Paso Robles, Calif. >   OK, so I can't spell. I actually prefer my spelling:)   Would you like peas and gravy with that Ron?   Jen. <bfus7@central.sussex.ac.uk>      
(back) Subject: Re: AGO Denver From: Paul Opel <popel@sover.net> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:02:57 -0400   In brief, the American Guild of Organists national convention, held this year in Denver. If you aren't an AGO member, then get on the stick and join. Good magazine, a pretty fair amount of moral support, The conventions are a hell of a good time, with thousands of other organists, wall to wall concerts, vendors, lectures, etc. The AGO alternates yearly between national conventions and regional ones- next year's regional might be closer to hand.   Paul Opel   >Hello, > >What is the AGO Denver thing? My teacher went to it but didn't really say >much about it. Thanks for any information!!! > >Take care, >Lauren > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: Re: Mailing lists From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@MediaOne.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 14:15:42 -0400   Ron Yost wrote: > > >Can you advise me of any other organ mailing lists (other than > >PIPORG-L and PIECHAT which I am already sbscribed to) > > Hey! I wanna know where PIECHAT is!! :) Yummmmmmy Food for the > Soul from the Organ lists is wonderful .. but Pies too! ummmm > > ~~I'm sorry Jenny .. da Debil made me do it. ;0) >   Well, that takes the cake! We make get our just deserts by having the crust to fill this list with half-baked postings such as this pear.   Cherry O! Lem Marang  
(back) Subject: What a find! From: "W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:17:11 -0400     I was going through some old records today in a local thrift shop when = I came across volume 8 of the King of Instruments series put out by the = Aeolian-Skinner Company. This recording has Norman Coke-Jephcott playing = the organ at St. John the Divine in New York City. It is in fairly good = shape but is suffering some mold damage to the record case. What a = find!!!=20   Ever since Tom Murray's lecture on old organ recordings at OHS last = week, I've been searching the record boxes for rare items. I guess I = found one!   Stay tuned: I'll post more about the OHS convention highlights, and my = Tom Murray story (Arp!!) soon!   Sincerely,   Will Scarboro    
(back) Subject: Re: Mailing lists From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 10:25:00 -0700   I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, Jen. I was only kidding you. And, sure .. peas and gravy are fine, but I was thinking of what we call pie .. the sweet kind.   If it weren't for spell checkers I'd be in trouble too.   Sowwy Jenny. :)   Ron Yost, Paso Robles, Calif.   > >OK, so I can't spell. I actually prefer my spelling:) > >Would you like peas and gravy with that Ron? > >Jen. <bfus7@central.sussex.ac.uk>    
(back) Subject: Re: Mailing lists From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:46:02 BST         > I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, Jen. I was only > kidding you. And, sure .. peas and gravy are fine, > but I was thinking of what we call pie .. the sweet > kind. > > If it weren't for spell checkers I'd be in trouble > too. > > Sowwy Jenny. :) > > Ron Yost, Paso Robles, Calif.       You didn't hurt my feelings Ron:) I don't offend that easily, really.   I've told you privately and in public now. You must be convinced by now. Gee, to think I would be offended by a comment about my spelling. I wish that was all people picked on me for:)     Gudbi   Jen. <bfus7@central.sussex.ac.uk>            
(back) Subject: Re: Mailing Lists From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 15:24:55 -0500   Jenny:   >I have asked this question before, but have lost any replies I may >have recieved, so sorry to bother you with it again. > >Can you advise me of any other organ mailing lists (other than   This was on a webpage I printed out, but I don't remember the page's address:   "There are several different types of mailing lists; the most prevalent are called "listservs". You can search a master list of listservs by topic with a simple message. Send an email to this address (do not type < or >): <listserv@listserv.net> . Leave the subject line of the message blank, and at the top of the message body, write: <list global xyz>, where xyz equals a search string of your choosing. For example, sending the command <list global chem> will return a list of all lknown listservs relating to chemistry, including any and all lists that contain the string "chem"."   Also, aim your browser at <http://www.liszt.com> for a comprehensive list of mailing lists.   I believe that about covers it.   \/\/\    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings, Funerals, etc From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 15:31:43 -0500   I side with those of you who feel that if the minister has no taste in music, then the next in command at a wedding or funeral is the organist, not the bride or her mother.   "Oh, Lord It's Hard to be Humble..." is an excellent illustration of a time when propriety goes out the window. However, one cannot just tell the coordinator of such an event "I'm not playing that piece and that's final. Harumph!" without losing business. I've been in similar straits before, although never at a funeral (except for one where I was asked by the widow to play piano arrangements of music from the 30's and 40's, and most especially "Don't Get Around Much Anymore" - as soon as I hung up the phone, I cracked up, but I went ahead and played it as requested). Nowadays, when I get an odd request for such an event, I say that while such music is inappropriate for a church service, it would be perfect music for the wedding reception or a wake after the funeral service. So far, I've never been over-ruled on this matter.   \/\/\    
(back) Subject: A Question or Two From: "Emily D. Woods" <sesquialtera@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 14:04:25 PDT   Since I'm not yet able to contribute to most of the discussion in this list, I thought I'd ask a couple of questions of my own, just so I can continue to be involved. As a young organist (and I use the term "organist" VERY loosely), I was wondering how each of you got your start in the "organ business," building or playing or whatever you do. For me, organ lessons started out as a joke. At our Community Chorus' presentation of Handel's Messiah in '96, I was the page-turner (a noble position :)) for the organist, and the choir director would often teasingly ask when I was going to take over for the organist. About 8 months later, the organ studies became a reality when our church and organist offered a year's apprenticeship to anyone who was interested in learning the pipe organ. My decision to audition was one of the best choices I've made in my entire life, and I'm eternally grateful to my church and my teacher for giving me the chance to try something challenging and rewarding. Though I was often the recipient of funny looks and good-natured jokes from my friends when I told them I was studying organ, I can honestly say that I have found something that I enjoy doing, perhaps more than anything else. Anyway, that's my story--What's yours? Also, I'm interested to know how many teenagers participate in this list. :)   Emily Woods     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: AGO Denver From: sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au (Sheridan Mascall) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:44:36 +1000       -----Original Message----- From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, 1 July 1998 23:26 Subject: AGO Denver     >Dear Organists on the list, > >Out of curiosity why aren't you at the convention?   Cos I live in Australia and I wouldn't be back in time for dinner :) *sigh* Would love to get to one, some time. But that, my friends, is truly what is called a pipe dream.   Hugs, ~Sheridan~        
(back) Subject: Crystal Cathedral From: Jonathan Kroepel <Jekroep@hrn.bradley.edu> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 15:44:05 -0700   I was told a few months ago that the Crystal Cathedral is in financial trouble, and were losing the at home viewers. So, the staff, along with the pastor, have decided that to change the service to a "bloody" contemporary service, and would no longer need the help of Dr. Swann. You know as well as I that the common person in America is brain-dead when it comes to music. I hope that the contemporary service does not take off and the Cathedral resorts to the Grand organ again!   Sincerely,     Jonathan E. Kroepel  
(back) Subject: Another one.... From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 20:35:07 -0400   OK, folks, now that I've crossed the "Evergreen" bridge, here's another one.   I'm playing a funeral tomorrow.   And I usually play Sine Nomine for the postlude.   Ya know what they want? Get this.....         (Drum roll please..... Anybody got a real TO snare drum hooked up?)               (keep scrolling.... building up the suspense here....)         They want:       Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Ole Oak Tree!!!!!!!   Good gravy!   I had no choice on this one.... it was in the bulletin and printed by the time I saw it. I told them they got 32 bars and that's it. THEN I'm playing Sine Nomine!   Sometimes I hate having this theatre organ background.... if the parishioners could just keep THAT separate from the church-music part of me, I'd have it made!!!   Heh. Gonna be interesting. I plan to play the melody on a solo 4' flute, strings with celeste and the typically church-organ tremulant in the accompaniment, and it'll be a real tear-jerker. <<sigh>> Sentimental enough, do ya think?   Oy!   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: Re: Crystal Cathedral From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:51:26 -0500   Guys, I know it's a lot of fun to speculate on Swann's leaving the CC, but he himself wrote a letter to one of the lists (was it PIPORG-L or PIPECHAT?) a couple months ago to explain himself. You might check the archives, or maybe one of the fellow listers still has it.   Regards,   Glenda Sutton      
(back) Subject: Re: A Question or Two From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 20:52:39 -0400   At 02:04 PM 7/1/98 PDT, you wrote: > As a young organist (and I use the term "organist" VERY loosely), I >was wondering how each of you got your start in the "organ business," >building or playing or whatever you do.     Emily, I was lucky in how I got here.   I had studied classical piano for a number of years, and took a summer course in organ through my high school. Well, I enjoyed it, and everybody said I was a natural at it (which I still question). My parents went right out and got me an organ. At 13 years old, I told them I'd only study pop music.   Well, by 15, I was playing just prior to the shows at the Lansdowne Theatre (3/8-9 Kimball). I was heard by some important people, evidently, and gave my first Theatre Organ concert in Rochester, NY, at the age of 17..... and the last one in Kingston, Ontario, Canada some 15 years later.   Thanks to studying with Leonard MacClain at that time, I landed a job as organist/choir director (a position, with complete autonomy) at the age of 17. Felt strange being in authority over people several times my age.   At some point, I began study with Robert Elmore and perfected the church-music side. At 19, I began work in a church position that would last 15 years.   Later in life, I went back to College to get my BMus degree, albeit in music ed. with piano concentration.   Currently, by choice, I am assistant organist at the church where I hold my membership. There are plenty of positions to be had, and many that I'd be qualified for. However, it's not something that works into my personal agenda right now.   So that's me in a nutshell! Gladja asked? :)   --Shirley    
(back) Subject: Re: A Question or Two From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 17:25:10 -0700   Emily,   Yes, there are several talented teen organists here .. I suspect you will be hearing from them shortly. :) One even has recently installed his own practice pipe organ in his home! Makes this old guy envious, but very happy for him. Another is planning such an instrument. Sooo .. welcome young lady .. you'll find a receptive bunch of very nice, helpful people here. :)   And, thank you for telling us about yourself! I'm not an orgainist, or I'd 'write myself up' too.   Ron Yost, Paso Robles, Calif.  
(back) Subject: Re: Applause From: jfjc@juno.com (John F. Crowley) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:44:41 -0500   Dear Emily,   Applause is not uncommon nor is it rude in church. At the conclusion of weddings at the church where I am organist at, the pastor will have the newly-wed couple turn and face the congregation present and introduce them as Mr. and Mrs.....and the folks clap like crazy. I place of applause for this humble music player, there have been many times when parishoners have come back to the choir room and complimented me on the music.   And finally, welcome to the wonderful world of church musician. Stick with it, you'll love it.   Musically,   John   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: RE: Crystal Cathedral From: Charles Brown <clmoney@cybernex.net> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:49:28 -0400       -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Kroepel [SMTP:Jekroep@hrn.bradley.edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 6:44 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Crystal Cathedral   I was told a few months ago that the Crystal Cathedral is in financial trouble, and were losing the at home viewers. So, the staff, along with the pastor, have decided that to change the service to a "bloody" contemporary service, and would no longer need the help of Dr. Swann. You know as well as I that the common person in America is brain-dead when it comes to music. I hope that the contemporary service does not take off and the Cathedral resorts to the Grand organ again!   Sincerely,     Jonathan E. Kroepel   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org [Charles Brown]   Folks:   I think the reason why Fred left was after 30+ years in large, politically charged, churches that require more administrative duties than musical duties, he is ready for a change.   He has made his name, no longer needs the publicity, has a comfortable investment portfolio and pension plan, and wants a quieter church. I am sure that it is nothing more than that.   Charles Brown    
(back) Subject: Re: Another one.... From: Roger Pariseau <grinder@west.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 20:30:19 -0700   Shirley wrote:   > They want: Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Ole Oak Tree!!!!!!!   It's hard for me to write this (with Wynton Marsalis' band playing in the background), but do you plan to play this song up-tempo? or will you dirge it out =E1 la New Orleans? or will you simply accede to the occasio= n and play it with a Love Story flair? Sounds like you've opted for the last!   -- Roger