PipeChat Digest #442 - Sunday, July 5, 1998
Re: To those whom I have offended
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #441 - 07/04/98
  by "Vernon Moeller" <vernonm@ccsi.com>
Re: Trad Music + I Will Not Play...
  by "Vernon Moeller" <vernonm@ccsi.com>
Re: Applause
  by <sohmer@juno.com>
Re: Applause
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
AGO Convention Report -- Long!
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <OrganDok@safari.net>
Re: Trad Music + I Will Not Play...
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Some things never change
  by "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com>
Re: To those whom I have offended
  by <mewzishn@spec.net>
Xpost Organ case/console artist's conceptions
  by "Jonathan M Orwig" <giwro@juno.com>
RE: << STOP IT!!!
  by "Ruth" <theraven@istar.ca>
  by <Shakehip@aol.com>
Re: Refusable toe-tappers???
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Crystal Cathedral
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Crystal Cathedral
  by <JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu>
RE: Another one....
  by "Ruth" <theraven@istar.ca>

(back) Subject: Re: To those whom I have offended From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 04:48:18 -0500   Thank you for your apology. I am sure that when you did the original post you had no idea of what kind of controversy this topic would raise.   But this topic is completely off-base for this list. This topic came up on another list some time ago and caused the same reactions. Pete and I try very hard to not interfer with topics on the list but when they get to the point that flames begin to appear then we need to say something.   After driving all day from Denver to somewhere in Texas and having all sorts of problems getting connected I was appaled to see that several folks couldn't follow my request. One of them is no longer with us due to the flaming that appeared from his account. And looking at yesterday's statistics there were numerous folks that unsubscribed, more so that normal, which i would atribute to this topic.   I hope you all have a great 4th of July.   David     ******************* David Scribner Co-Owner / Technical Administrator PipeChat      
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #441 - 07/04/98 From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 09:02:09   > Too often our church choir completes a difficult or uplifting piece, and is met with dead > silence from the congregation.   "Uplifting" pieces, huh? Sometimes, the reason they are uplifting is because you have heard them over and over again in rehearsal, and you've really developed a liking for the piece. Plus, you can understand every word. At Bethany, where I play, we print the lyrics of all the anthems in our worship bulletins; that way, the congregation can more readily understand the gist of the piece.   Similarly, over the years, I've found that pieces which are "difficult" to perform are even more difficult for untrained ears to hear for the first time. Despite careful diction and perfect accompaniments, congregations must be drawn from whatever thoughts are bouncing around in their heads to the line of thought you want them to derive from whatever piece you and/or your choir are performing.   What I'm getting at, in both these cases, is that for many in the congregation, this is the first time they are hearing this anthem, or an anthem in this style. I have found it so helpful when the choir master or organist (if this is an organ or piano piece that differs from what the congregation has become accustomed to hearing) takes a moment to bring the anthem to the hearts and minds of the congregation by offering a minute's worth of spoken introduction to the piece: what makes it different, what makes it inspirational, how it has touched and changed lives, etc.   IOW, make your anthem or organ piece an experience to be remembered for a long time, let them see you, the organist, "perform" the piece, and not just sit there like a bump on a log while the notes roll out, like they're coming out of a machine gun, and if you don't get applause (this depends a lot on the church in question), I can almost guarantee that you will get a lot of teary-eyed, inspired looks and compliments both immediately afterwards and after the service (my wife always gets teary-eyed whenever I play something either profoundly simple, but clear, with a ringing tone, or something difficult that ends big, like French toccatas). Best of all, you'll know then and there that you are a beloved part of the congregation's life.   Hope this helps somebody,   \/\/\    
(back) Subject: Re: Trad Music + I Will Not Play... From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 09:08:46   Greetings Fellow PipeChatters:   My apologies in advance for what looks to be a lengthy response. Please excuse me, too, for dredging up material from the past, but I'd like to address two responses to linked issues which were distributed recently:   At 09:04 AM 6/26/98 -0600, Tom Gregory wrote: >I will not pull the childlike behaviour pattern of stomping my feet, >pouting and refusing to play certain compositions because the quality of >the music is below me. Communication with the pastor should be a goal we >all should strive for.   Thank you, Brother Tom, for resetting our perspectives on this emotional issue. Maturity is hard to come by in many professions, not just ours. I have usually acquiesced on this issue, and just gone along with whatever was being performed, but I must admit that I have worked with truly outstanding choir masters who, well before such issues came up, dealt with them away from the choir room and the sanctuary.   >This is a tangent, but I wonder how you all would handle this. I am >playing for a wedding in August, and the bride wants some relative to sing >Barbra Streisand's "Evergreen" at this wedding. The wedding music is up to >me, the pastor stays out of it. I have adamant opinions about secular >music being included in a worship service (I feel it's disrespectfully out >of place), but how can I disallow it? I was thinking that if they brought >their own accompanist, then maybe it's possible to include it, regardless >of my opinion of it.... > > --Shirley   Well, Shirley, sorry to go against you here, but I believe that with current social tides suggesting that weddings go just fine without any reference to things sacred, that we are dang lucky to be playing for as many as we do. If you have "adamant opinions about secular music being included in a worship service", then I suggest you politely inform the bride that because of music selected for her wedding that you do not feel that you can honestly play for her wedding and just back out, graciously. Suggest other organists for her to call, or, better yet, find her another organist, somebody you trust, especially musically, to do the job well. I'm sure the bride's family will understand.   The reason I haven't done this very often* is because I have seen at least one instance (and in this case, one is far too many times) where Young Mr Johnson (not his real name), a very capable organist with an excellent reputation, bowed out of a wedding "on principles" and here's what happened: the bride put off finding another organist until the last minute (Young Mr Johnson quit several months before the blessed event) and then all she could find was 103-yr-old Aunt Agatha who hadn't seen an organ in 30 years (please excuse my exaggeration, but I'm not far off the mark). Aunt Aggie meant well, but, you know... (she was flattered, she was honored, but, ..., well, she promised to do her best!). Meanwhile, the printer was not informed of the change in organists, and guess what? The congregation in the sanctuary on the wedding day assumed that the program was printed correctly and that the organist was Young Mr Johnson, the original one! To compound matters, nobody could see the organist (the console was well-hidden behind a screen), so when the organ music sounded like hell, people thought "Wow! Young Mr Johnson must be roaring drunk or stoned! How like those trashy musicians! Always engaging in such terrible personal habits, tsk, tsk, tsk,..." and on and on yada-yada-yada. Our favorite profession was taking a terrible beating, rest assured. I'm sure you know what happened to Young Mr Johnson's excellent reputation - right! Even though he was 100 miles away getting a tan in Corpus Christi at the time of the wedding, his reputation was going straight to the septic tank, and plenty of brides were rethinking just who was going to play for their weddings.   I don't back out of weddings unless there is a time conflict, mostly because I value my reputation and look upon weddings as a way to advertise my abilities. You never know how many brides-to-be are sitting out in the congregation during a wedding, wondering just who is going to play for theirs. More importantly, however, I want the wedding to reflect the church and its ideals, and it can do so only if I'm there to give it my personal touch.   * I have refused to play a few pieces over the years, but there's a nice way to do it, suggested to me by a very old, very wise musician, who pointed out to me that when you are dealing with people's personal/artistic values, you must tread very lightly. Just tell them that since they are having a church wedding, with a robed minister, organ music, etc., that this is very much like a church service and that rambunctious music has no place in such a service. (Somebody once asked me to play some Rolling Stones' song, something about doing it in the road, that I found objectionable.) Then, be sure to say something like, "Moreover, I don't think I can do it justice on the organ or piano or keyboard - just listen to what's on your recording. We don't have enough time - and you probably can't afford - to bring in Mick Jagger and his buddies to do the song as it deserves to be done, right? So, here are a few other songs that express similar sentiments that might be more appropriate. OTOH, if you just can't live without this song, why don't you have it played at the reception? People there will be much more appreciative of its true artistic merits." Be sure to show the bride some printed programs of other weddings, showing what songs were sung, so that she can get a good idea of what's proper and what isn't. Most brides want to do something a little different, to distinguish their wedding from all the others, but they don't want theirs to stick out like a sore thumb by doing something unacceptable to the people who are going to be invited to their nuptials.   Sorry to rattle on so long, but it's Saturday morning and I feel energetic....   Happy 4th, y'all!   \/\/\    
(back) Subject: Re: Applause From: sohmer@juno.com Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:32:14 -0400     On Fri, 3 Jul 1998 12:37:48 -0400 (EDT) cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) w >Come to think of it, I certainly could use a few "golden" sermons! >hehehe   Well, then, Bruce, you should get out the writings of ...... um, er, Chrysostom.... or was he golden tongue? can't remember   To keep this on topic.....what church was Chrysostom pastor/rector of, and what kind of organ was it?   Bet it wasn't a Moller.             > > o o o _____________________ o o o > o o o _____bruce cornely_____ o o o > o o o cremona84000@webtv.net o o o > o o o ___ O a H g S o ___ o o o > >All knowledge, the totality of all questions and all answers, is >contained in the dog. --Franz Kafka > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Applause From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:45:45 -0500 (CDT)   At 10:32 AM 7/4/98 -0400, Steve Ohmer wrote: > >On Fri, 3 Jul 1998 12:37:48 -0400 (EDT) cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce >cornely) w >>Come to think of it, I certainly could use a few "golden" sermons! >>hehehe > >Well, then, Bruce, you should get out the writings of ...... um, er, >Chrysostom.... or was he golden tongue? can't remember > >To keep this on topic.....what church was Chrysostom pastor/rector of, >and what kind of organ was it? > >Bet it wasn't a Moller.   St. John Chrysostom (c. 347-407) was Bishop of Constantinople, so would generally have presided in the Cathedral there. The present Cathedral of St. Sophia was built in 538 and is thus later than the time of Chrysostom. This building would certainly have had great acoustics for an organ, but I'm afraid it never had one. Also later than the time of Chrysostom himself is the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, the most widely used liturgy in the Eastern Orthodox Church. From this Cranmer took the familiar "Prayer of St. John Chrysostom" to use at Morning and Evening Prayer.   John.    
(back) Subject: AGO Convention Report -- Long! From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <OrganDok@safari.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 11:48:42 -0400   Hi, Y'all!   Yes, this note is sent to three lists, so if you get it 3x, delete two of 'em and read the third, or, delete all three! Happy 4th of July.   I love the Guild. I've attended every national since 1970 (Buffalo), with the exception of the Minneapolis, Seattle and Detroit conventions. This was a good convention, too. There were some mountaintop experiences which I'll share with you.   I arrived in Denver on Friday early a.m. to attend the organ playing competition. The Guild is in good shape with performance, for sure. There were no "dogs" among the contestants! The organists chosen for the finals were three women--a very unusual thing for sure--but all fine players. Personally, I would have chosen a couple of others. Jim Diaz for one. He's a very strong player and winner of the Calgary competition. Daniel Brondel, too, is another very strong player. We found on Tuesday afternoon that Ann Elise Smooth was the winner, and Cathy Rodland was second, and Sarah Hawbecker was third. Ann Elise lives in London and a member of the Philadelphia Chapter. She is a strong, strong performer, and I recommend her to you for your consideration as you book concerts in the next few years.   I also attended the finals of the improvisation contest. Wow! What a tough job to judge that contest! John Schwandt from Bloomington, Indiana, was the winner. He's a very, very nice young man. And he can play up a storm in all styles! I've never heard him play literature, so I don't know about his interpretation of classic literature. But coming form St. Olaf and IU, I'm sure, he's got the right stuff!   The opening convocation as held at the Red Rocks Amphitheatre. A splendid space and just right for our convention. Even though it was held mid-morning and the sun was in our eyes and we ended up with red noses (can anyone sing "Rudolph"?) the service was wonnnnnnnderful. John Kuzma arranged most of the music for the service for a big brass group, pipes and drums, children's choir, adult choir, readers, and nature! Libby Larson was commissioned to write a piece for the event, and has turned out a wonderful anthem for multiple choirs and instruments. I recommend this piece to you, especially if you have a big space where you can place the children and some solo instruments in different parts of the room. The "time of remembrance" was an incredible experience as John arranged "Amazing Grace" for brass and bagpipes. I hope this gets published soon, 'cause it needs to be heard.   The hymn festival created and played by John Ferguson at Cherry Creek Presbyterian Church (a P.C.A. church) was splendid. He used many wonderful resources to create a very meaningful worship service. If you don't use some of the G.I.A. music for instruments with congregational singing, you're missing the boat -- they have a wonderful catalogue. Look for the festival hymn series.   Another exceptional service was the "Lessons and Carols" at the Episcopal cathedral. Don Pearson and John Repulski are the cathedral musicians and led us in a very fine service. Yes, Christmas in July, complete with Chistmas trees, greens, lights, bells and bows! Don put together a service full of very interesting choral music. John played the opening voluntary (Keith Chapman's "Bring a Torch") and Don played a piece written for me (Mike Dell's "Toccata on Antioch" renamed something about a Christmas Flourish or something like -- now published by Fred Bock).   Another high for me was the performance by Mme. Messiaen of one of her husbands works, "Des canyons aux étoiles…." It was an incredibly wonderful experience to hear her play. She must be around 75-80 years old, and still plays brilliantly. After hearing Gillian Weir played the Messiaen "Meditation on the Mysteries of the Trinity" Saturday night, it was interesting to hear the piano and orchestra on Sunday night. The percussive, vigorous way she played and with the colors of the orchestra, it made a unique, once-in-a-life time music experience for me! I'm glad I heard this concert.   I also was privileged to hear Ned Rorem accompany at the piano. He is an excellent pianist and accompanist. John Obetz played "Views from the Oldest House," a piece he premiered at the Washington National 16 years ago, and Eileen Hunt premiered a new commission, "Six Pieces." Chanticleer sang "Pilgrim Strangers" and a tenor sang the "Nantucket Songs" with Rorem accompanying. Although never a Rorem fan in the past, it was interesting to hear the composer play his own stuff.   Mary Preston and Gillian Weir performed organ concerts with the orchestra. Mary commissioned Gerald Near to write a concerto for her for this performance. It is outstanding! A must play again and again and again. Thanks to Mary for commissioning this wonderful new piece. Of the several commissioned works for the Convention, the Libby Larson and the Gerald Near pieces are, for sure, to be performed again and again.   For me, the outstanding organ concerts were played by John Scott, Wilma Jensen, Janette Fishell (she also played duets with her husband and he played some solos, too, but Janette was fine!), Diane Belcher, David Higgs, Naji Hakim, Doug Cleveland, and Andy Kotylo (one of the "Shooting Stars" concerts.   Chanticleer performed Britten's "Curlew River" directly after the organ/harpsichord concerto concert. I was tired from a long and hot day, so I wasn't as fresh as I needed to be to really appreciate this very intense piece of music. Fortunately, we were able to enjoy Chanticleer in three different settings--the Rorem, Britten, and then in some lighter spirituals and songs at the closing event.   There were some negatives, but every convention has some less-than-ideal situations to deal with. Denver has few great organs (perhaps NO great organs) and almost no air-conditioned worship spaces. It was a week of high temperatures and less-than-wonderful organs. Admittedly, it was difficult to be a good listener. My hat is off to the performers who had to perform back-to-back concerts in hot rooms with far-from-ideal conditions.   The bus/transportation arrangements were horrible. We often arrived an hour or more for the concerts, and then late for others. This was the weakest part of the concert, and one which could have been solved. The Convention committee, sub-let or hired a travel agency to "do" the bussing, and it just didn't work. What I missed was the smiling volunteer who told us which bus to get on and where to go and how to go and all that. There was none of that. For me, a map-challenged person, the bus package is critical. However, the fellowshipping on the bus is always fun, and since we arrived so early at some of the events, there was a lot of time for chatting. So, I guess it was o.k. in the long run.   The exhibits and socializing at the end of the day is great fun. Seeing old friends and making new acquaintances is always a great part of each convention. I'm glad I went.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea aka Darryl Miller Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church Fort Lauderdale  
(back) Subject: Re: Trad Music + I Will Not Play... From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 12:17:33 EDT   In a message dated 7/4/98 9:14:07 AM Central Daylight Time, vernonm@ccsi.com writes:   << Be sure to show the bride some printed programs of other weddings, showing what songs were sung, so that she can get a good idea of what's proper and what isn't. Most brides want to do something a little different, to distinguish their wedding from all the others, but they don't want theirs to stick out like a sore thumb by doing something unacceptable to the people who are going to be invited to their nuptials. >>   Amen! That is very sage and wise advice. Furthermore, I concur with the author's earlier statement of reminding the bride that a wedding, in a church, is an act of *worship*. If I provided blatant secular music at a service I'd be drawn and quartered.   John Gambill Organist/Choirmaster Lord of Life Lutheran Church (ELCA) Lancaster, TX (a 'burb of Dallas)  
(back) Subject: Some things never change From: "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 09:46:20 PDT     Hi List!   After being without a phone for 6 weeks to check my e-mail (or chat), it is nice to know that I didn't miss much. I hope everyone that went to the Denver conventions had a good time. To keep this more on topic... I have been spending the last several days installing my Gulbransen in the new house (external speakers on an above plant shelf and all). I still have many, many, problems to work out of the thing, but it still turns on and makes a little noise. All those that are into the fireworks thing... BE CAREFUL, don't go burning down any pipe organs. Happy 4th of July Everyone,   _____ | | Sean M. Haley / NWOrganer | | Organist,Pianist,Composer,Piano Tech. () ()..<newgershwin@hotmail.com>.......... () () .............................................| | .............................................|___|     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: To those whom I have offended From: mewzishn@spec.net Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 13:34:59 -0400   David Scribner wrote:   > numerous folks that unsubscribed, more so that > normal, which i would atribute to this topic.   You can attribute the capitulation to a bunch of bigots to my unsubscription. Having reviewed the list guidelines, I can find nothing in them that would make such a discussion off-topic. Anything worth reading these days gets cross-posted to more than one list, anyway.   Bye!        
(back) Subject: Xpost Organ case/console artist's conceptions From: giwro@juno.com (Jonathan M Orwig) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:05:22 -0700   Hi lists,   Here's one for you organ builders out there in cyberland. I have been experimenting with 3D rendering software to generate a photorealistic "artist's concept" of a pipe organ. With a scan of a picture of the place where the organ will reside, I can conceivably merge the 2 pictures to give a fairly good idea of what the instrument will look like. My question is this: Do any of the organ builders out there think there is a market for this kind of service? So far, private queries to different folks have met with little interest (which is fine - I really am doing it for fun, but thought that it would be nice to make a buck or two on the side if anyone could use my talents...) What say ye?   Jonathan Orwig Minister of Music - Bethany Church, Redlands, CA for new Organ, Keyboard & Choral Music visit Evensong Music at: http://members.aol.com/Evnsong/pgone.html Personal Page: http://members.aol.com/Giwro/index.html   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: RE: << STOP IT!!! From: Ruth <theraven@istar.ca> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 14:30:32 -0400   -----Original Message----- From: mewzishn@spec.net [SMTP:mewzishn@spec.net] Sent: Saturday, July 04, 1998 3:03 AM To: PipeChat Cc: tcorgan@ibm.net Subject: Re: << STOP IT!!!! This list does not succeed or fail on any single person's contributions, no matter the size of the particular ego involved.   Ken Sybesma       [Ruth Bird] Maybe if certain people leave the list will not fail. Howerver, the quality of this list sure does depend on certain subscribers.   Ruth      
(back) Subject: REDUNDANCY From: <Shakehip@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 15:17:43 EDT   Maybe I'm contributing to the problem by posting, but I just thought I'd point out, that not only is the topic supposed to be dead and already redundant, but 6 million posts related to apologees and pipechat politics are also ANNOYING and REDUNDANT.   Wouldn't it be nice if a posting about ORGANS got this kind of response ???   Please, its the fourth of July... let's be mature enough to keep the fireworks off the list, and also know when PRIVATE responses are more appropriate...   - - Ed  
(back) Subject: Re: Refusable toe-tappers??? From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:16:39 -0400     >My church fax is (---)--- - ----   I don't think we wanted to know this. (quietly said in the ear in an informative way)   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Crystal Cathedral From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:31:36 -0400     On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:11:37 -0400 Charles Brown <clmoney@cybernex.net> writes: > > > >[Charles Brown] > >If anyone watched the show from CC yesterday they would have heard of >the >"retirement" of Fred Swann. We all know that it was a long-time >coming. I >sincerely hope that Fred is happy in the new position he has accepted. >Does >anyone know who will be taking over the position? >     I think that it might be the lady that has been playing for a while. I don't have a complete idea, but it's close! Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Crystal Cathedral From: JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu Date: 4 Jul 1998 15:51:10 CST/CDT         PI>>anyone know who will be taking over the position?   I am, of course, speculating, but I believe Jason is correct. I thinkHeather Hinton will take the job, although I read she was going to playat the CC for a few months   Oh well, We'll all find out some time in the future. Is Coral ridgestill looking for an organist? I saw that the assistant from theCrystal Cathedral played there a few weeks.     Any way, Happy Fourth of July, America   Sincerely,   Jonathan Kroepel    
(back) Subject: RE: Another one.... From: Ruth <theraven@istar.ca> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 21:05:16 -0400   Hey, Shirley,   That's what you get when your so clever and talented :)   Boy oh Boy, the joys of it all.   Regards, not so talented (but wish I were) Ruth   -----Original Message----- From: Shirley [SMTP:pnst@itw.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 8:35 PM To: Pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Another one....   OK, folks, now that I've crossed the "Evergreen" bridge, here's another one.   I'm playing a funeral tomorrow.   And I usually play Sine Nomine for the postlude.   Ya know what they want? Get this.....         (Drum roll please..... Anybody got a real TO snare drum hooked up?)               (keep scrolling.... building up the suspense here....)         They want:       Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Ole Oak Tree!!!!!!!   Good gravy!   I had no choice on this one.... it was in the bulletin and printed by the time I saw it. I told them they got 32 bars and that's it. THEN I'm playing Sine Nomine!   Sometimes I hate having this theatre organ background.... if the parishioners could just keep THAT separate from the church-music part of me, I'd have it made!!!   Heh. Gonna be interesting. I plan to play the melody on a solo 4' flute, strings with celeste and the typically church-organ tremulant in the accompaniment, and it'll be a real tear-jerker. <<sigh>> Sentimental enough, do ya think?   Oy!   --Shirley   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org