PipeChat Digest #446 - Wednesday, July 8, 1998
 
Re: PipeChat Digest #445 - 07/07/98
  by "Vernon Moeller" <vernonm@ccsi.com>
Re: Crystal Cathedral
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Crystal Cathedral
  by <rnickel@itol.com>
Useful Service Music
  by <rnickel@itol.com>
Re: Crystal Cathedral
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
Re: Crystal Cathedral
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #445 - 07/07/98
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Crystal Cathedral
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
(no subject)
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
RE: Crystal Cathedral
  by "Charles Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net>
Organ Recital at Washington National Cathedral
  by "gregory@mke.earthreach.com" <gregory@mke.earthreach.com>
Re: Crystal Cathedral
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: Crystal Cathedral
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: Reharmonizations
  by "Robert Horton" <r-horton@nwu.edu>
 


(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #445 - 07/07/98 From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 08:46:58 -0500   At 04:00 AM 7/7/98 -0500, you wrote: > Yes, I would prostitute myself in a flash. I can't believe I just >said that. I am moraless. >   Interestinger and interestinger...   If our Friend Fred needs the cash, then who are we to judge him? OTOH, if he doesn't need the cash, then perhaps he will turn around and donate it part or all of it to AIDS research. How would you feel then?   I like the version that claims American Indian authorship: I will not judge a man until I've walked a mile in his moccasins.   \/\/\        
(back) Subject: Re: Crystal Cathedral From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 10:54:39 EDT   I believe he also did a demo LP for Saville at St. Paul's Cathedral in Boston somewhere in the 60s or 70s.  
(back) Subject: Crystal Cathedral From: rnickel@itol.com Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 10:01:05 -0500   One of the interesting points that was mentioned and no one answered, who is Christopher Pardini? I'd be interested to know.   >>>>>>>We're probably not allowed to know this right now due to certain people having to keep "low profiles," etc., etc., etc. This whole Fred Swann thing rivals a presidential scandal. No wonder the general public gets irritated with us!      
(back) Subject: Useful Service Music From: rnickel@itol.com Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 10:06:33 -0500   I can't remember what the recent thread was concerning "my favorite book" or something like that ... and we certainly need a diversion to the current CC postings ... so, here I go: About a month ago, I received a box of music from Donald Busarow's brother (Ronald) who was a resident in Door County, Wisconsin. It seems Don gave Ron this music over the years, and Ron used it during his organ career. Having passed on, Ron's wife thought I would enjoy the music. After sorting through the stack, I found a book I like and others may enjoy as well. The title is "38 Voluntaries for Reed Organ" by Samuel Jackson. The book is published by G. Schirmer with a renewal copyright date of 1893. These very sightreadable pieces are similar to the first two editions of "The Liturgical Organist."   Bob Nickel    
(back) Subject: Re: Crystal Cathedral From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 10:15:22 -0500   >I believe he also did a demo LP for Saville at St. Paul's Cathedral in Boston >somewhere in the 60s or 70s. >   I'm curious, is the Saville company still in business?   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: Crystal Cathedral From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:40:49 -0400 (EDT)   I don't know who Christopher Pardini is, so I guess it's okay for him to see Rodgers!!   Your dilemma is exactly my point. That a respected organist (who shouldn't need the money) would kick dirt in the face of the instrument which helped make him famous is a travesty. His reputation carries with it a responsibility to "use it for good and not for evil." Unfortunately, too many places purchase the saleman. I always tell my committees, when you get ready to make that final decision, please remember that the salesman is going to back where he came from and the organ is going to remain here. If you really like the salesman, buy him. And then go looking for a new organ.   Hope all is well with you. Missed you at OHS; I trust you were suitably busy.   :+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+: o o o _____________________ o o o o o o _____bruce cornely_____ o o o o o o cremona84000@webtv.net o o o o o o ___ O a H g S o ___ o o o   They say a reasonable amount o' fleas is good fer a dog--keeps him from broodin' over bein' a dog, mebbe. -- Edward N. Westcott    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #445 - 07/07/98 From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:56:55 -0400 (EDT)   We're not "actually" judging him, per se. Simply opining!   Blood money for AIDS research? Like lottery money for missions?   We all must ultimately rely on our own conscience. (drat!)   :+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+: o o o _____________________ o o o o o o _____bruce cornely_____ o o o o o o cremona84000@webtv.net o o o o o o ___ O a H g S o ___ o o o   They say a reasonable amount o' fleas is good fer a dog--keeps him from broodin' over bein' a dog, mebbe. -- Edward N. Westcott    
(back) Subject: Re: Crystal Cathedral From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:04:59 -0400 (EDT)   I don't know if Saville is still in business, but every month in the back of The American Organist, in the classified section under Miscellaneous, there is an ad directed to Saville Organ Owners. That would be a place to start!   :+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+: o o o _____________________ o o o o o o _____bruce cornely_____ o o o o o o cremona84000@webtv.net o o o o o o ___ O a H g S o ___ o o o   They say a reasonable amount o' fleas is good fer a dog--keeps him from broodin' over bein' a dog, mebbe. -- Edward N. Westcott    
(back) Subject: From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 17:40:42 BST     Can somebody please tell me how to unsubscribe from this list.      
(back) Subject: RE: Crystal Cathedral From: "Charles Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:13:14 -0400   I suppose that I am a bit confused as to the outrage of Fred Swann doing some promotional work for the Rodgers organ company.   While I am certainly not advocating electronic instruments over pipes I have concertized on electronic instruments with pleasing results.   Fox certainly brought his electronic instruments into places where organ recitals previously would not have been possible and, as a result, introduced many people to the abilities and enjoyment of such a program.   Many of our larger pipe organs, from some very respectable builders, are employing electronics within their respective designs.   From a financial standpoint, again, I cannot condemn Swann. Organist, for a whole variety of reasons, are among the lower payed within the music community. Even Fox, at the height of his career did not recive fees that most other concert musicians receive. This requires the organist to look toward other avenues, both within and outside of the profession, to supplement income. Further, this also brings Swann's name out more and leads to additional traditional recitals.   The real discussion should not be the instrument in which he is playing, but the quality and artistry of the playing. I am quite sure that in Swann's case, these factors where of the highest quality and integrity.   Charles Brown   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of bruce cornely Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 1998 11:41 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Crystal Cathedral     I don't know who Christopher Pardini is, so I guess it's okay for him to see Rodgers!!   Your dilemma is exactly my point. That a respected organist (who shouldn't need the money) would kick dirt in the face of the instrument which helped make him famous is a travesty. His reputation carries with it a responsibility to "use it for good and not for evil." Unfortunately, too many places purchase the saleman. I always tell my committees, when you get ready to make that final decision, please remember that the salesman is going to back where he came from and the organ is going to remain here. If you really like the salesman, buy him. And then go looking for a new organ.   Hope all is well with you. Missed you at OHS; I trust you were suitably busy.   :+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+: o o o _____________________ o o o o o o _____bruce cornely_____ o o o o o o cremona84000@webtv.net o o o o o o ___ O a H g S o ___ o o o   They say a reasonable amount o' fleas is good fer a dog--keeps him from broodin' over bein' a dog, mebbe. -- Edward N. Westcott     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Organ Recital at Washington National Cathedral From: "gregory@mke.earthreach.com" <gregory@mke.earthreach.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 98 04:26:22 -0000   Greetings:   This past Saturday my family and I attended the 4th of July recital by Douglas Major at the National Cathedral. This was truly a memorable event.   We arrived early and were fortunate to be seated in the choir, a short distance from the console.   The quality of playing, the sound of the organ and the singing was overwhelming!   Although we could not see the entire nave from the choir, we were told that all 3000 seats were filled for this recital.   The program was as follows:   The National Anthem Hymnal #270 Fanfare for the Common Man * Aaron Copland Yankee Doodle with Variations James Hewitt The Easy Winners Scott Joplin America the Beautiful arranged by Clare Fischer Hymn "O Beautiful for spacious skies" Hymnal #719 Toccata for Organ (1968) John Weaver Two Blues Songs Charlie Parker Back Home Blues Blues For Alice Improvisation on a Submitted Theme Douglas Major The Stars and Stripes Forever John Philip Sousa   *also used four timpani, bass drum, gong, played for three percussionists.   Two standing ovations were given Dr. Major; one following the improvisation, the other at the conclusion of the recital.   If you ever have the opportunity to attend a 4th of July recital at the Cathedral, don't miss it. It is the opportunity of a lifetime!   Tom Gregory First Baptist Church (An American Baptist Congregation) Waukesha WI USA                        
(back) Subject: Re: Crystal Cathedral From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 20:04:45 -0700   DudelK@aol.com wrote: > I believe he also did a demo LP for Saville at St. Paul's Cathedral in Boston > somewhere in the 60s or 70s.     Yes, he [Fred Swann] did. I have the LP. That was a great-sounding LP. One of my all-time favorites, among the E. Power Biggs and Robert Owen recordings, just to mention a few.   -- Mac Hayes mach37@ptw.com Cogito per aspera    
(back) Subject: Re: Crystal Cathedral From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 20:04:45 -0700   DudelK@aol.com wrote: > I believe he also did a demo LP for Saville at St. Paul's Cathedral in Boston > somewhere in the 60s or 70s.     Yes, he [Fred Swann] did. I have the LP. That was a great-sounding LP. One of my all-time favorites, among the E. Power Biggs and Robert Owen recordings, just to mention a few.   -- Mac Hayes mach37@ptw.com Cogito per aspera    
(back) Subject: Re: Reharmonizations From: Robert Horton <r-horton@nwu.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:59:58 -0500   >From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> >Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:31:14 -0400 > Yeah, I've gotten this lately, too. "I can't sing the harmony when you do >that!" Geez. It's on one verse of one hymn, and when I do it, it's >inspiring and uplifting. Wow! you've got a congregation that's actually capable of singing harmony?!?!   The best course of action would be to use that to your advantage. It sounds like your congregation is at the point (musically) where they're ready to handle printed instructions in the bulletin. Tell them that v.3 (for example) is their verse to sing harmony, or v.2 is women only, etc...This gives you even more flexibility when setting a hymn and trying to bring out the text. Just remember that the text must come first and everything you do should have a reason.   > My biggest problem I really have to start watching is speed. I take the >hymns at generally a pretty fast clip.... it's when I stop singing with >them I get into trouble. It's always easy to slow a hymn down, but trying to speed up in the middle is disastrous. Aside from the obvious solution of metronome practice, why don't you make up words to go with your interludes? You can keep the tempo by continuing to sing that way.   RH