PipeChat Digest #464 - Saturday, July 25, 1998
R: Organ Museum
  by "Mascioni Organi" <masciorg@tin.it>
Re: changing times
  by <sohmer@juno.com>
Re: Performance Anxiety
  by "John (Jack) Cormack" <jackjack@erols.com>
Re: What made you interested in organ?
  by <Steskinner@aol.com>
Re: What Made You Interested in Organ?
  by <George.Greene@rossnutrition.com>
Virgil Fox's home town
  by <JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu>
Re: changing times
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Virgil Fox's home town
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re:  Organ Week @ Wesminster Choir College
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: What made you interested in organ?
  by "Jeff Taylor" <jctaylor@execpc.com>
re: Subject: What made you interested in organ?
  by <ZieglerBob@aol.com>
Re: What made you interested in organ?
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: What made you interested in organ?
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: What made you interested in organ?
  by "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com>
Re: What made you interested in organ?
  by "John F. Crowley" <jfjc@juno.com>

(back) Subject: R: Organ Museum From: "Mascioni Organi" <masciorg@tin.it> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:13:51 +0200   Dear Lauren,   the place you are looking for is "Roche", near "Lac du Geneve" (not far f= rom our company). The Museum is really interesting and worth a visit. Mind that the closing day is monday !!! If you are coming to Italy, we would be very pleased to see you in our workshop witch it is only 10 miles from Switzerland (should be a map in o= ur site). If you need any specific information do not hesitate to contact me. Have a good journey.   Andrea Mascioni masciorg@tin.it http://web.tin.it/mascioni   -----Messaggio originale----- Da: OrganAngel@aol.com <OrganAngel@aol.com> A: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Data: gioved=EC 23 luglio 1998 21.46 Oggetto: Organ Museum     >Hello everyone, > > I was watching the "Joy of Music" with Diane Bish and she was at an organ >museum that is in Switzerland. I will be going to Italy a week from tomorrow >and Switzerland will be one of the places I will be visiting and was wondering >if anyone knew where in Switzerland it was... Thank you for any info!!!= !!! > >Take care, >Lauren > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >        
(back) Subject: Re: changing times From: sohmer@juno.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:20:27 -0400   My wife works in a church-related pre-school, this summer with 2-3 year olds, and in the fall with 4's. As the children enter the room with their parents each morning, and definitely before the traditional nap time, classical music is being played. (This is Baptist related, I might add, and also the fact that most of the other teachers are using classical music this summer!). Yesterday the station was playing the Bach Little Fugue in g - wife didn't mention the organist, only the fact that the children became suddenly very quiet and mesmerized by what they were hearing. In two weeks, they will be going on a "Field trip" to our little lcms church to hear the little 5-rank unit Moller, in a program I've designed especially for them.   Times may be changing - times are always changing, and change is here to stay. It's what we do with those changes that ensures our success or failure.   Now, if I can be of further continuous influence with this batch of kids over the next five years, wonder what good things might happen?   Steve Ohmer Charlottesville, VA On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:00:37 -0500 "j. stuart" <jstuart1@pdq.net> writes: >many churches, in an attempt to reach the kids, began to play music to >a >beat they would listen to. alot of more modern music seems to be tempo >rather than words that gets your attention. but the words are still >there and even if subconsciously are still heard. i guess i mean that >for most people to like something it has to strike them somehow. while >i >don't think alot of music would sound good on the organ, playing >things >that the kids recognize and like may help spark an interest. for >example if all i had ever heard on the organ was Bach, i probably >would >not be playing (attempting to play) today. my dad played the old folk >songs i learned as a kid. this struck and interest because i knew the >songs. aside from a little tinkering with music i don't know, i still >mostly play the music i learned from him. i'm probably going way >around >the bush here but all i'm trying to say is many times it is >familiarity >that hits home. > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Performance Anxiety From: "John (Jack) Cormack" <jackjack@erols.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:13:08 -0400   At 10:33 AM 7/23/98 -0500, you wrote: >I had lunch with a friend of mine yesterday, a psychologist by trade who >happens to admire organists, organ music, etc (we all have our failings, >don't we ;-) ), and he and I got to talking about performance anxiety among >organists and how, left untreated, it can force organists to retire >prematurely to avoid its symptoms, or at the very least, endure the most >frightful symptoms while playing the organ. He also showed me a pamphlet >he had received from a publishing house that specializes in his field, and >he mentioned that perhaps this information would help somebody on the list, >so here goes: > >{begin quote} > >Methods for Overcoming Pre-Performance Jitters > >"Notes from the Green Room" explains the causes of musical performance >anxiety and suggests methods for dealing with it effectively. The authors >show how proper preparation, as well as techniques such as learning >experiments, relaxation training, tension management, and graded exposure >to groups of various sizes, can relieve the compulsion that often >accompanies an individual's performance. This book will be an essential >resource for musicians at any level - from church organist to world-class >operatic soloist. > >Notes from the Green Room >Coping with Stress and Anxiety in Musical Performance >Paul G Salmon, Robert G. Meyer > >Hardcover Item #C644-Y06 231 pages $25.95 >Softcover Item #F968-Y06 231 pages $24.95 > >{end quote} > >I think it interesting that the ad mentioned church organists, don't you? > >This book is published by Jossey-Bass Publishers (www.josseybass.com >(1-800-956-7739)). > >I know a couple of organists who suffer from this syndrome. One of them is >an elderly lady who is a competent organist and pianist in her own right, >but tell her that she is supposed to play for church, and you can see her >start to shake in fear right in front of you! She's never played so badly >that she would have any reason to fear playing for church, yet she quivers >like a leaf before and during every service I've seen her play for. > >I'd bet a month's salary that there are others here on the list who also >suffer from PA, so I hope that the information I've passed on to them will >prove helpful. > >\/\/\ > *********************************************************   It also may help if one recognizes that performance anxiety -- at a moderate level -- is an asset, because it gets one keyed up and helps us to be able to perform at our best. It is only a natural reaction to be keyed up before a public performance, and if it is realized that it is only natural, then the magnitude of the reaction can be controlled, and is an asset.   Sincerely,   Jack Cormack.  
(back) Subject: Re: What made you interested in organ? From: <Steskinner@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:23:44 EDT   << In a message dated 7/23/98 6:46:07 AM Central Daylight Time, OrganAngel@aol.com writes: > I'm always curious as to what made people want to play the organ. >>   I arrived at registration for my music major at the Conservatory of Music at University of the Pacific in Stockton, CA (home of a 4-manual Estey) and announced I was interested in church music, with no thought of organ study whatsoever--I just wanted to go on youth choir tours. They signed me up for organ lessons and I discovered "Open Wood FF" and the echo erzahler celeste.   Steven Skinner First Presbyterian Chruch of the Covenant (where I am NOT the organist) Erie, PA  
(back) Subject: Re: What Made You Interested in Organ? From: George.Greene@rossnutrition.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:46:20 -0400     I became interested in organ during high school. I had taken piano lessons for several years, but I loved the sound of the old C3 in my home church, Westwood Enterprise Baptist in Ashland, Kentucky. I was amazed at all of those reversed-color keys (Hammond presets) and the funny little black, brown, and white knobs (drawbars) across the top that changed the sound when you pulled them out.   The church organist, Claudia Lehn, was very helpful, showing me how to do the old "start-run" routine, change registration, and the basics of playing the instrument. Claudia even helped me to convince the church board to let me have a key so I could practice, and I started taking lessons at First Pres. in Ashland shortly thereafter. I will always be extremely grateful to Claudia and the other good folks at Westwood for giving me the opportunity to start playing the organ (and for enduring my early attempts!)   After a few months of organ lessons, my teacher (Hal Hopson!) moved out of state, I went away to college, and the lessons ended. I continued playing in various churches over the years, learning LOTS of bad habits on my own. Last year, my church obtained a marvelous second-hand Saville organ, and it inspired me to start studying organ again. I enrolled in an organist training program at the Methodist Theological School in Delaware, Ohio, and I'm taking organ lessons again after almost thirty years!   My first exposure to theatre organ was around 1976 when the late Virgil Fox played a concert on the Mighty Morton at the magnificent Ohio Theatre in Columbus. The only word I can think of to describe this experience is WOW!!!!! It was totally AWESOME! Virgil played quite a variety of music, and the pieces that stand out most my memory include the T&F in D Minor, "The Entertainer" by Scott Joplin (Virgil declared that Joplin must have been related to J. S. Bach), and a lush, tremmed-to-the-max rendition of "Pomp and Circumstance". I still get goosebumps thinking of that concert! Theatre organ is not the first venue that comes to mind when Virgil's name is mentioned, but he was a natural for it, with his tremendous sense of dynamics and showmanship along with his ability to play such a wide range of literature. That night, I realized just how expressive this marvelous instrument can be, going from a whisper to all-out, floor-shaking thunder, and I haven't been quite the same since!     George Greene (George.Greene@RossNutrition.com) Organist, Sunbury (Ohio) Church of the Nazarene      
(back) Subject: Virgil Fox's home town From: JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu Date: 24 Jul 1998 11:11:10 CST/CDT     of the school songs that copiedoff of the colleges. He had composed the school song during his timethere.   I thought I would share this bit of information that was passed on tome.     Jonathan Kroepel Peoria, IL (Soon to be at SIU-Carbondale)   to: IN:pipechat@pipechat.org cc: IN:listserv@uacsc2.Albany.edu    
(back) Subject: Re: changing times From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:42:58 -0400 (EDT)   I would be interested in seeing you program for the bratbrigade! ;-) It's amazing how attractive that Little Fugue in g is. That is one piece that is well worth learning.   :~+~:~+~:~+~:~+~:~+~:~+~:~+~:~+~:~+~: o o o _____bruce cornely_____ o o o o o o cremona84000@webtv.net o o o o o o ___ O a H g S o ___ o o o   Fierce in the woods, gentle in the house. -- Martial    
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil Fox's home town From: dougcampbell@juno.com (Douglas A. Campbell) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:58:49 EDT     On 24 Jul 1998 11:11:10 CST/CDT JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu writes: > > Virgil Fox was. Of course I did, and proceeded >to talk more with her. She said to me that this man was from her home >town of Princeton, Illinois, and he had composed the school song. She >said that the school song was unlike any of the school songs that >copied >off of the colleges. He had composed the school song during his time >there. > Dear Jonathan,   Any hope of you getting a copy of this music ? ? ?     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Week @ Wesminster Choir College From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:00:49 EDT   Jill, I started a thread about it a while back, hence my going. there are quite a few kids attending from the list. If you're going, i'll see ya there!   -pete  
(back) Subject: Re: What made you interested in organ? From: "Jeff Taylor" <jctaylor@execpc.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:38:20 -0500   Thanks for the question, this has been a very interesting thread.   There appears to be an interesting pattern in many of the responses to this question. It seems that many who are interested in organs and organ music develop the interest at an early age and are instantly captivated by it. It's not something that many people gradually warm up to or come to casually. Either ya love it or ya don't. Anyway, my story...   I have been entranced by the sounds and music of pipe organs since early childhood. My introduction to the instrument was through recordings. In the middle 50's, when I was a pre-schooler, my parents bought a wonderful new 'HiFi' set. A copy of a Buddy Cole recording, I believe the title was "Organ Moods in HiFi", came with it. I loved it! When I was big enough, I would drag my hobby horse over to the 'HiFi' and listen and ride for hours on end (my poor mother!). I'd try to play the 'organ record' as I called it for other kids from the neighborhood, thinking that they would be as captivated as I was, but none were. I was always frustrated by that.   The next breakthrough occurred when my favorite aunt got her record player and a couple of George Wright recordings. Wowie zowie!! That did it, I've been addicted ever since. I bought every G.W. recording I could (still have them, but they are in pretty sorry condition) and started collecting E. Power Biggs, and Virgil Fox also.   When I went to college, I moved in with my record collection. Everyone else had rock and folk recordings. At first I proudly played my recordings for my new acquaintances, hoping to interest them in what I thought was so wonderful. No takers, frustrated again!   Now, I'm involved with the 3/38 Kimball project at the Oriental Theatre in Milwaukee. We try to present a couple of programs per year, and end up with poor attendance and often lose money. So... still no takers, still frustrated. Is there a pattern here?? :-)      
(back) Subject: re: Subject: What made you interested in organ? From: <ZieglerBob@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:54:17 EDT   >Subject: What made you interested in organ? >From: <OrganAngel@aol.com> >Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:44:18 EDT   > I'm always curious as to what made people want to play the organ. >A fellow (young) organist, >Lauren   Dear Lauren,   I get extremely excited when I find someone like you who is young and learning the organ. God bless you and keep it up.   For myself, my parents were organists during the 40's. My Mom came from Ark. in the 40's to Chicago. She already knew how to play the piano but was really interested in the organ. Back then there was theater pipe organ and the "new" Hammond organs that had just come into their own. She studied under Lew Webb who at the time was the staff organist at NBC in Chicago. Back then all the major radio networks and major radio stations had huge pipe organs in their studios.   I don't know too much about my Dad's musicial education but someone once said he played by ear which is me all over. My Mom didn't think she had the patience to teach me and my younger brother Don herself so she sent us to her good friend Freddy Lane. On the first day of my lesson (which was to be on a B-3 Hammond) I walked into Freddie's studio and there was this beautiful 2 manual antique white Conn console and I was in love that very minute.   I got away from that for a very long time and in 1976 I purchase my Conn Theaterette which I still have although it doesn't work too well.   The bottom line is my Mom made sure I did my practicing and practice I did. DO IT TOO! You'll never regret it. Sometimes when I come home from work (I'm a tired old railroad man) and had a rough day I sit down and play just about everything I can remember for a couple of hours and then I feel fantastic.   By gosh there is nothing, NOTHING like sitting down to an organ and making music. Oboes and trumpets and guitars are fine but the wealth of music you can make from an organ is unlimited.   I now classify myself as a "saloon" organist; I play for my church once in a while when Sister Lucy has to go out of town; I play in F# (go figure). My mother in her later years asked me why I play in that "God awful" key and I gave her 2 reasons. Bach wrote in that key and the black ones stick up so they're easier to reach!!!!! (please forgive this tired old jokester)   So I'll quite already. Just you keep practicing and learning. Learn all you can. Knowledge is power and I'm sure you've heard that but it's true, so darned true.   I bid you peace and wish God's blessing on you and your parents. If they're anything like mine were they are really nifty and neato!     Regards,       Robert F. Ziegler zieglerbob@aol.com Playing in the key of "off" in beautiful downtown Sauk Village, IL.    
(back) Subject: Re: What made you interested in organ? From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:04:56 -0400 (EDT)   >So.... still no takers. Is there a pattern here?   Yep, Jeff! Life many of us, we appear to be riding a dead hobby horse!   But don't give up..... keep hoppin'.   :~+~:~+~:~+~:~+~:~+~:~+~:~+~:~+~:~+~: o o o _____bruce cornely_____ o o o o o o cremona84000@webtv.net o o o o o o ___ O a H g S o ___ o o o   Fierce in the woods, gentle in the house. -- Martial    
(back) Subject: Re: What made you interested in organ? From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:53:53 -0500   Well, Jeff, I wasn't going to respond to this thread (I haven't "spoken" in a while), but I'm one of those "gradual warmer-uppers" to organ music. Therefore, someone has to represent the few but proud.   When I was a child, as soon as I could read my dad enrolled me in private piano instruction. He could play beautifully almost any instrument he touched, but couldn't read music (he later taught himself). His goal was that I could read music and could play for church. I took lessons faithfully until I was 13, when I reached "adult studies" (whatever that is), outgrew my sweet wonderful teacher and quit. At that time I was already accompanying the school choruses and choirs, and substituting at church. I had a position (playing for free) at a church by the age of 14.   When I was 12, my dad offered to buy an electronic organ and to pay for lessons. I scornfully replied, "Who would ever want to play an organ as long as a perfectly good piano was around?" My only experiences with organ music were hearing the sweet little old ladies in church playing the electronic organs with the tremolo going on "In the garden", "Rock of Ages", "How great thou art", etc. While I have nothing against that, it did less than inspire me to take up the organ - my interests were classical music and jazz.   Just before I left home for law school, and later when I came home from law school, I quit my church pianist job (you know, the kind that doesn't pay musicians, but requires you to be there every time the doors are open), and took a position for the Episcopal church playing a tiny spinet organ. It was horrible - one octave of pedal, and I had to turn on every stop just to make it loud enough so they could hear to sing (all 11 of them). I finally convinced them to move the poor dry-rotting grand piano from the parish house to the church to supplement the music.   When I was 31, a small pipe organ was built at the church (I've already told the story of the miracle of its birth some time ago). I was forced at gunpoint to learn how to play it, until I discovered (was it day 2 or day 3?) that it was actually fun and quite challenging (Bach and Mendelssohn and Vierne, oh my!). I've been at it ever since (next week I turn 38, but don't tell anyone!).   Regards,   Glenda Sutton      
(back) Subject: Re: What made you interested in organ? From: "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:28:11 -0400   When I was young, I was fascinated by the sound of the organ which played the theme song on that 1960's TV sitcom "Davy and Goliath". (For those who may be unfamiliar with this witty program, the theme song was "A Mighty Fortress".) The piano was still my first love however, until one Wednesday, while a High School Senior, I received "the" phone call. The caller, from my church, wanted to know if I would play for Sunday's service. He gave me the option of using the piano if I was not comfortable with the organ. I said yes, knowing it was to be a one-time substitute appearance with no further obligation and chose to use the organ (an electronic Wurlitzer, though I did not make use of the 25-note straight pedalboard). After the service the church offered me a salary (about $20/week). Twenty-one years and several churches later, I'm still at it. Thank you Fred Benner.   Kurt Kehler ******************************************************************** * This space is for sale. Email me NOW for a Free Rate * * Schedule. Learn how YOU TOO can get Rich by * * advertising right here. Act now, supplies are limited. * * kmkehler@csi.com * ********************************************************************              
(back) Subject: Re: What made you interested in organ? From: jfjc@juno.com (John F. Crowley) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:18:23 -0500   On a Sunday morning some many many years ago, after the 8:15 Mass at st. Catherines, I went in to the choir room, went up to the nice lady sitting on the bench and asked her "Is that a pipe organ?" She replied yes it is. End of that conversation. Then, while a cub scout in 1957, our packs were invited to a special showing of "The Bridge On The River Kwai" (the year the movie came out) at the Fox Theater. Before the movie started this very big "Thing" came up out of the floor and sounds were coming out of the walls. This thing was gold and was illuminated by a rose colored spotlight from somewhere "high up." Well, I was purely frozenfrom then on. When I got back home, mom had asked how I liked the show. I told her about this "thing" and she repliedc that that was the Fozx Theaters Pipe organ, which later on in life I learned is a 4m 36r Wurlitzer. Been hooked on em ever since. Four years of music in high school, played cello for three of those four years. Beginning organ, selft taught (pointer system) :(, then many many more years later, professional lessons. I love the organ dearly both theater and classical.   To coin a phrase "I Love To Hear You Singing"   John   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]