PipeChat Digest #405 - Sunday, June 7, 1998
 
Pipe vs Electronic
  by "Jasper Jenkins" <jasper68@webtv.net>
Re: Pipe Vs Electronic
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Re: Pipe vs Electronic
  by "Dr. Edward Peterson" <epeterso@madison.tdsnet.com>
Re: Pipe vs Electronic
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Wrong List!
  by "W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net>
Re: 3 1/2 different organs - some reactions Xpost
  by "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@swbell.net>
PIPEORG-L
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Presenting new organist
  by <JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu>
PIPEORG-L
  by <JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu>
Piporg-L and their problems
  by "Grahame Davis" <wineorg@azstarnet.com>
Re:  Pipe vs Electronic
  by "Barry Jordan" <Barry.Jordan@t-online.de>
YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Re: Presenting new organist
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Re: Presenting new organist
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Re: Pipe vs Electronic
  by <HDKarras@aol.com>
Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Re: PIPEORG-L
  by "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com>
Re: Piporg-L and their problems
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: PIPEORG-L
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Allen for Sale, specs included [X-posted]
  by <ComposerTX@aol.com>
?changing sound of Conn organ?
  by "James Burkholder" <jburkhol@raex.com>
Re: Piporg-L and their problems
  by "Grahame Davis" <wineorg@azstarnet.com>
Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
 


(back) Subject: Pipe vs Electronic From: jasper68@webtv.net (Jasper Jenkins) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 06:41:17 -0400   I think decisions on new or replacement organs in churches should be made based on one major factor Size of building. Most new churches are no longer cathedral size and a PROPERLY sized and installed Allen or Rogers will sound as good or better then pipes in most small to mid size churches. A lot less maintenance, a lot less worry about malfunctions when you sit down on a Sun after the organ has been still all week in the cold locked church. I love pipes but would not recommend them to any pastor today unless they were Chystal Cathedral size. [not quite but very large] jj  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Vs Electronic From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 06:00:10 -0500   While I can appreciate Mr. Jenkins' viewpoint, one could even take this theory a step further and advocate that a well designed and installed pipe organ suited for the less than Cathedral size building will be an even better solution. To install an electronic merely to sound better than many poorly installed pipe organs, to me, is not fitting for the house of God. As far as maintenance is concerned, I guess I have the advantage of playing a small 2 manual pipe organ well suited for a small church. It does not get played during the week (I have a practice organ!) but greets me with a smile every Sunday morning and inspires my congregation to sing hymns full throttle. Pipes are not the solution for every situation but certainly not appropriate only for large churches and cathedrals.   Robert Eversman  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe vs Electronic From: epeterso@madison.tdsnet.com (Dr. Edward Peterson) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 06:29:48 -0500   On Sat, 6 Jun 1998 06:41:17 -0400, jasper68@webtv.net (Jasper Jenkins) wrote:   >I think decisions on new or replacement organs in churches should be >made based on one major factor > Size of building. [...]   >I love pipes but would not recommend them to any pastor today unless they >were Chystal Cathedral size. [not quite but very large]   I am sure every list reader can appreciate Mr. Jenkins' thoughtful recommendation and will give it exactly the amount of attention and consideration that it deserves.   Dr.Ed  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe vs Electronic From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 09:20:12 -0400   I cannot believe that an organist would actually believe, let alone, say in public what Jasper Jenkins just published here. This is indicative of a lack of exposure to small instruments either recent or older. If I had to face an electronic POS every week I find another way to make money. Shovelling HS is better than playing IT! Some of the finest organs I have played have been less than 15 ranks. Smaller organs by reputable builders are more often better voiced and finished than the big monsters that are too large to properly maintain. As a pewster, there is nothing more ludicrous than sitting in a small building and having the sound of a "gigantic" electronic reproduction of another "gigantic" organ squirting out of the walls. The sound is inappropriate, improperly scaled, and not at all conducive to worship and singing. I would rather listen to a piano (actually I'd rather stay home!). I recommend that Mr. Jenkins go out and hear some good new small tracker organs. If you can't make beautiful music with 5 stops you probably can't do it with 50 either!   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Wrong List! From: " W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 10:48:59 -0400     I sorry for sending that last post here, it was intended for piporg-l but oh well. Thats what happens when you speed through your address book without looking.   Also I guess everyone else was asleep last night for no one except Doug Campbell and myself was on IRC last night! LONG NIGHT!?!   Sincerely,   Will Scarboro   **************************************************** Will Scarboro, Organ Historian (In Training) Organist, Pineda Presbyterian Church, Melbourne, Florida U.S.A 1996 OHS E. Power Biggs Fellow Municipal Organ Research Project ****************************************************    
(back) Subject: Re: 3 1/2 different organs - some reactions Xpost From: Brent Johnson <bmjohns@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 09:57:28 -0500   > Several yearsb ago, the College Church at Grand and Lindell Aves in > Midtown St. Louis was completely renovated. Everything except their 4m > Kilgen which was prompltly removed from the chburch to the trash bin and > replaced with a Rogers or some other thingy with 2 ranks of pipes? and > about 50 million speakers.   As I understand it, when the church was renovated, there wasn't any money left for an organ, so they never got one. When they have concerts or special   services, they use Wicks' positiv organ, which is two ranks and digital stops, with all the speakers and pipes contained in the case. This is a beautiful church and a complete shame it doesn't have a full organ.   Brent Johnson http://home.swbell.net/bmjohns      
(back) Subject: PIPEORG-L From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:00:05 BST     Hi.   I'm getting frustrated now. I have tried again SEVERAL times to subscribe to PIPEORG-L. Each time it comes back saying error. I sent an email to the list owner, and even that came back saying unknown domain!! Can someone please help this young lady in distress!!   To make matters worse the kettle's just blown up!! I guess I'll just hit the whiskey!!   Jen   bfus7@central.sussex.ac.uk      
(back) Subject: Presenting new organist From: JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu Date: 6 Jun 1998 09:18:50 CST/CDT       Dear Pipechat,   Before I get flamed, I just want to say Ms. Diane Bish has done quite abit for our organ world. I believe that it be interesting to see new, young faces on hershow as well. Not only young organist should be on there, but also theexperienced. Since I am nearly 19, I have definite opinions(which thoseopinions will crused by Ms. Webb). I know, as well as you do, thatteenagers are coaxed and influenced by their peers. Therefore, if wehad positive examples of teenage organists, the organ may start tobecome a new fad. People my age see the organ as a old grannyinstrument. However, while I was in grade school and high school, Itook great strides to teach my fellow students about the organ. Sure, Iwas the subject of many jokes. For example, "Jonny plays with his organin public," or the award the class officers would have liked to have given me, "Most likely to play his organ in public." I have risen abovethat and have continued to educate people. It is my dream to educatethe people of this nation. Most Americans have slipped into hell-boundtrain. That is why I have worked for the passed six years on promotingthe organ in this area. I have worked for eight differentcongregations, and the people are as ever ignorant. I give credit forthe works of the American Guild of Organist and other like organizationsfor their work in promoting the arts. I would like to hear what youhave to say on these issues.   Sincerely,   Jonathan E. Kroepel  
(back) Subject: PIPEORG-L From: JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu Date: 6 Jun 1998 09:33:58 CST/CDT     PI>Hi.   Dear Jen,   I will write to you exactely how the instructions are listed inSeptember 1995 American Guild of Organists.     ather pants vs. beadedgowns for performance. You can subscribe at no charge by sending anemail message to Listserv@Uacsc2.albany.edu. In the body of themessage, type: subscribe Piporg-l your name, inserting your human nameat "your name. That is all you need to do. For example, If I wanted to subscribe, I would type: SubscribePipeorg-l Jonathan Kroepel.   I hope this helps.   to: IN:pipechat@pipechat.org cc: IN:bfus7@central.sussex.ac.uk    
(back) Subject: Piporg-L and their problems From: Grahame Davis <wineorg@azstarnet.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 08:33:02 -0700   Jenny,   There are a number of us in Arizona who cannot subscribe to Piporg-L and no-one seems to be able to fix the problem. Our ISP here in Tucson blames Piporg-L and Piporg-L blames our ISP! We subscribe to pipechat and orgue-l and see most of what is posted on piporg-l by doing so. Not being a techy-type, the explanation I have been given by both parties might as well be in swahili. It seems our current level of technology is not what the media would have us believe!   Happy playing and tuning......Grahame in Arizona    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe vs Electronic From: Barry.Jordan@t-online.de (Barry Jordan) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 17:33:46 +0200   Bravo! This is getting backto the whole "cost-effectiveness" debate under a different name (on Pipeorg-l); but I'd still like to chip in with the comment that "cost effectiveness" is one of the worst arguments we have against the electronic invasion. Quite simply, the things sound almost (but not quite) like real organs, so they're deceit, which means that they're unethical and ungodly. We do not, after all, generally put plastic flowers on the altar, although they do not wilt, require no watering, and look quite a lot like the real thing, especially from a distance. We do, however, tolerate them in the pizzeria on the corner.   He that hath no ears to hear, let him go digital!   Tracker- it's the real thing! Barry   bruce cornely schrieb: > I cannot believe that an organist would actually believe, let alone, say > in public what Jasper Jenkins just published here. This is indicative > of a lack of exposure to small instruments either recent or older. If > I had to face an electronic POS every week I find another way to make > money. Shovelling HS is better than playing IT! > Some of the finest organs I have played have been less than 15 ranks. > Smaller organs by reputable builders are more often better voiced and > finished than the big monsters that are too large to properly maintain. > As a pewster, there is nothing more ludicrous than sitting in a small > building and having the sound of a "gigantic" electronic reproduction of > another "gigantic" organ squirting out of the walls. The sound is > inappropriate, improperly scaled, and not at all conducive to worship > and singing. I would rather listen to a piano (actually I'd rather > stay home!). I recommend that Mr. Jenkins go out and hear some good > new small tracker organs. If you can't make beautiful music with 5 > stops you probably can't do it with 50 either! > > bruce o h s __________ a g o > cornely o o __________ o o > ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ........... > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:43:32 BST       HI IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am now subscribed to PIPCHAT-L. It had better be worth the wait. I don't know why it has never worked before. Now then, does anybody know anything about mending kettles??? Thanks All. Jen.        
(back) Subject: Re: Presenting new organist From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:51:06 -0400   Jonathan, You need to have your "school awards" made into T-shirts and bumper stickers. You'd make a fortune at the conventions. Keep up the good work. Please keep us olde folkes up to date with your ideas.   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:54:27 -0400   Get a new electronic kettle. It will make water taste almost like water!   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:59:06 BST           On Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:54:27 -0400 bruce cornely wrote:   > From: bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:54:27 -0400 > Subject: Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Get a new electronic kettle. It will make water taste almost like > water! > > bruce o h s __________ a g o > cornely o o __________ o o > ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ........... > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > Thanks for the idea. Water is awful here however you go about boiling it. I like the whiskey idea. Its not as good for your organs (liver) though.   Notice the use of the word 'organ' to keep on topic Mr Administrator!!   Jen.      
(back) Subject: Re: Presenting new organist From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 12:23:45 EDT   Johnathan: I dont feel old at all now. I see you are being awarded the same things with the same wording as I did in the 1950's. Not only has the language not changed,,but the mental acuity of the "mouthers" has not either. I agree with Bruce. Think about T-shirts and bumper stickers, sounds good to me. Keep up the good work Johnathan.   Pipes forever, Roc GRSCoLVR@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 12:58:16 -0400   Hi Jen,   Don'y know anothing about kettles but the wiskey sounds good!   Welcome to both worlds!   Regards,   Bonnie Beth Derby Syracuse, New York orge@dreamscape.com     ---------- > From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! > Date: Saturday, June 06, 1998 12:43 PM > > > > HI > > IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I am now subscribed to PIPCHAT-L. > > It had better be worth the wait. I don't know why it has never worked > before. > > Now then, does anybody know anything about mending kettles??? > > Thanks All. > > Jen. > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe vs Electronic From: <HDKarras@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:20:25 EDT   Hi,   Barry Jordan wrote the old arguments against the computer organ. At this time we have much other problems, so is the "cost-effectiveness" debate very actual. Perhaps in my Country church, the lutheran church of Brunswick (near Hanover in Northern Germany) hath many stupid tracker organs from the early 50s in bad condition. To make restauration for this instrument the congreagtions must pay about 300.000,- DM. Often is better to buy meanwhile a computer organ for 60.000,- DM with good sound and best condition. I play a good Johannus Organ as choir organ in the gothic choir in my lutheran church St.Ulrici in Brunswick and be very glad about this instrument. Also we recorded with choir and a Johannus Digital Organ and sounds great. Not every is tracker the only and best thing!!! Greetings Hans   Hans-Dieter Karras Music-Director St.Ulrici Lutheran Church Brunswick, Germany  
(back) Subject: Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! From: Stanley E Yoder <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 14:00:16 -0400 (EDT)   Excerpts from mail: 6-Jun-98 YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! by Jenny Moon@central.susx. > I am now subscribed to PIPCHAT-L.   Ummm, Jenny: earlier it was PIPORG-L you said you couldn't get on. Now you talk about PIP[E]CHAT (which DOES have an E).   Are you pulling our leg? Do you exist, kettle notwithstanding? :-) Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: PIPEORG-L From: "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 20:45:24 -0400   There is no "e" in PIPORG-L     Kurt Kehler          
(back) Subject: Re: Piporg-L and their problems From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 11:13:11 -0700   Hmmm .. this is new to me. You have it correctly here, Grahame, but sometimes people want to type pipeorg-l. It is piporg-l (PiP Org-ell) Their is no 'e'. ;0)   Have no clue why you can't subscribe, though .. or why it would matter what ISP your are on .. unless, somehow, the auto-respond list software can't reach your ISP's IP number and, thus, cannot confirm your address?? It is necessary, also, to reply to the confirm subscription message sent by piporg-l.   Have you tried subscribing directly from the Piporg-L homepage? I've already posted the URL's in a previous posting today.   Hope you get thru. :)   Ron Yost, Paso Robles, Calif.   At 08:33 AM 6/6/98 -0700, you wrote: >Jenny, > >There are a number of us in Arizona who cannot subscribe to Piporg-L and >no-one seems to be able to fix the problem. Our ISP here in Tucson >blames Piporg-L and Piporg-L blames our ISP! We subscribe to pipechat >and orgue-l and see most of what is posted on piporg-l by doing so. Not >being a techy-type, the explanation I have been given by both parties >might as well be in swahili. It seems our current level of technology >is not what the media would have us believe! > >Happy playing and tuning......Grahame in Arizona    
(back) Subject: Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 10:24:08 -0700   I agree, Bonnie!! We *have* to take a trip over to Merry Olde one of these days and hoist a few with Jen ... everybody up for it??   Course, we could visit a few local organs too .. if we are able! ;^)   Ron Yost, Paso Robles, Calif.     At 12:58 7:24 PM 6/6/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Jen, > >Don'y know anothing about kettles but the wiskey sounds good! > >Welcome to both worlds! > >Regards, > >Bonnie Beth Derby >Syracuse, New York >orge@dreamscape.com    
(back) Subject: Re: PIPEORG-L From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 10:20:38 -0700   Hi Jen!   Well .. it's done thusly:   send the subscription mail to:   listserv@albany.edu   in the TEXT of the message (NOT the subject line ~ leave the subject BLANK) place this:   subscribe piporg-l Jenny Moon   That should fix ya up! :) You'll soon get confirmation from the listserv bot, as well as the 'rules and regs' of the list.   (Methinks your Caps were messing it up .. it seems to be case-sensitive.) ---------------------------------------------- The Piporg-L homepage is:   http://albany.edu/~piporg-l/ ---------------------------------------------- The Piporg-L *online subscription* page is:   http://uacsc2.albany.edu/~PIPORG-L/pipesub.html -----------------------------------------------   Welcome to Piporg-L Jen!! :)   Ron Yost, Paso Robles, Calif. .. hoping you will save some for me .. whisky, that is :)   At 04:00 7:24 PM 6/6/98 BST, you wrote: > >Hi. > >I'm getting frustrated now. I have tried again SEVERAL times to >subscribe to PIPEORG-L. Each time it comes back saying error. I sent >an email to the list owner, and even that came back saying unknown >domain!! Can someone please help this young lady in distress!! > >To make matters worse the kettle's just blown up!! I guess I'll just >hit the whiskey!! > >Jen > >bfus7@central.sussex.ac.uk    
(back) Subject: Allen for Sale, specs included [X-posted] From: <ComposerTX@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 01:01:40 EDT   Our 2-manual Allen, listed as Serial Number 41421, a 2-manual custom organ in light walnut [?] is for sale to the highest bidder. Our two churches merged, and [guess what], we kept the 27rank Kilgen. Here are the particulars: 2 61-note manuals 32-note pedal clavier 25-note Maas chime clavier [ F to F ] divided expression, Reeds and Flues Crescendo pedal Sforzando piston setterboard [in the drawers] combination action 5 Generals, duplicated by toe studs 5 Locals on each division, Pedal locals duplicated by toe studs 3 speakers, each with the dimensions of 33"h X 33"w X 24"d 1 speaker, 51"h X 33"w X 25"d one other cabinet for amps, 70"h X 53"w X 25"d   GREAT 16 Gemshorn 8 Principal 8 Dulciana 8 Bourdon 8 Lieblich Flote 4 Octave 4 Flute Harmonique 2 Fifteenth 2 Waldflote 1 1/3 Mixture IV 8 Clarinet 8 Oboe Chiff Trem Great 4 Swell 16 Swell 8 Swell 4   SWELL 8 Geigen Diapason 8 Gamba Celeste II 8 Gemshorn 8 Voix Celeste II 8 Gedackt 8 Flute Celeste II 4 Octave Geigen 4 Flute 2 2/3 Nazard 2 Octavin 2 Blockflote 2 Plein Jeu III 16 Contra Fagotto 8 Trompette 4 Clairon Trem Flute Trem [three speakers on a spinning rotor] Swell 16 Unison Off Swell 4   PEDAL 32 Contrebasse 16 Principal 16 Bourdon 16 Lieblich Gedackt 8 Octave 8 Gedackt 4 Choral Bass 4 Flute 2 Mixture III 16 Posaune 8 Bombarde 4 Clairon Great 8 Great 4 Swell 8 Swell 4   The organ is available immediately in Dallas. Will ship to you at your expense. Best offer over $2500 by August 1 gets it.   Thanks, Danny Ray ComposerTX@AOL.com  
(back) Subject: ?changing sound of Conn organ? From: James Burkholder <jburkhol@raex.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 17:34:11 -0400   I have a Conn model 830. It is a fine instument, but is a bit screechy (?sp). It was recently tuned, and if anything, this made it more so. Anyone out there with expertise in this instrument have any comments about whether there is a way to adjust its sound to make it more mellow?      
(back) Subject: Re: Piporg-L and their problems From: Grahame Davis <wineorg@azstarnet.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 07:23:50 -0700   Ron Yost wrote: > > Hmmm .. this is new to me. You have it correctly here, Grahame, but > sometimes people want to type pipeorg-l. It is piporg-l (PiP Org-ell) > Their is no 'e'. ;0) > > Have no clue why you can't subscribe, though .. or why it would matter > what ISP your are on .. unless, somehow, the auto-respond list > software can't reach your ISP's IP number and, thus, cannot confirm > your address?? It is necessary, also, to reply to the confirm > subscription message sent by piporg-l. > > Have you tried subscribing directly from the Piporg-L homepage? I've > already posted the URL's in a previous posting today. > > Hope you get thru. :) > > Ron Yost, Paso Robles, Calif. > > At 08:33 AM 6/6/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Jenny, > > > >There are a number of us in Arizona who cannot subscribe to Piporg-L and > >no-one seems to be able to fix the problem. Our ISP here in Tucson > >blames Piporg-L and Piporg-L blames our ISP! We subscribe to pipechat > >and orgue-l and see most of what is posted on piporg-l by doing so. Not > >being a techy-type, the explanation I have been given by both parties > >might as well be in swahili. It seems our current level of technology > >is not what the media would have us believe! > > > >Happy playing and tuning......Grahame in Arizona > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org       Ron....many thanks for your kind words. I have worked closely with Ben Chi on this problem and yet....as I have stated....we still have trouble. We've tried everything the owners have suggested but all to no avail. Funny though.....I have become used to not getting piporg-l and can survive with the other two ngs quite well!   Regards....Grahame in Tucson    
(back) Subject: Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 13:04:49 BST       Hi.   Your all very welcome to visit 'Merry Olde'. (I guess thats your term for England, right?). Your all very welcome to camp up at my place and I'll have the whiskey ready. On the rocks?   I know some very nice organs to visit!   Jen   On Sat, 06 Jun 1998 10:24:08 -0700 Ron Yost wrote:   > From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> > Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 10:24:08 -0700 > Subject: Re: YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > I agree, Bonnie!! We *have* to take a trip over to Merry Olde one of > these days and hoist a few with Jen ... everybody up for it?? > > Course, we could visit a few local organs too .. if we are able! ;^) > > Ron Yost, Paso Robles, Calif. > > > At 12:58 7:24 PM 6/6/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi Jen, > > > >Don'y know anothing about kettles but the wiskey sounds good! > > > >Welcome to both worlds! > > > >Regards, > > > >Bonnie Beth Derby > >Syracuse, New York > >orge@dreamscape.com > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >