PipeChat Digest #411 - Thursday, June 11, 1998
 
Re:
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
My New/Old 1936 Wicks Pipe Organ (residence organ)
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: My New/Old 1936 Wicks Pipe Organ (residence organ)
  by "Peggy C. Bie" <peggyb@gate.net>
Re: My New/Old 1936 Wicks Pipe Organ (residence organ)
  by "Peggy C. Bie" <peggyb@gate.net>
Re: My New/Old 1936 Wicks Pipe Organ (residence organ)
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
Cross posting to all organ lists.
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Re: Cross posting to all organ lists.
  by <danbel@earthlink.net>
Re: Cross posting to all organ lists.
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
Re: Cross posting to all organ lists.
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
RE: Cross posting to all organ lists.
  by "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com>
Re: Cross posting to all organ lists.
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: PipeChat T shirts :-)
  by "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonahall@indiana.edu>
Re: Cross posting to all organ lists.
  by <KZimme7737@aol.com>
Re: Cross posting to all organ lists.
  by "Ross C Robinson" <dt676@freenet.carleton.ca>
Re: Cross posting to all organ lists.
  by "KARL W KELLER" <kwkeller@juno.com>
Kansas City?
  by "j nathan" <jnatpat@sunsix.infi.net>
Re: Cross posting to all organ lists.
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Kansas City?
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
New Web Site: PSTOS  (x-posted)
  by "Tom Blackwell  425-957-8648" <tom@spry.com>
The Strawberry Concerts, Westbury NY (x-post)
  by <mewzishn@spec.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 01:28:08 -0700   John L. Speller wrote: > At 01:24 AM 6/10/98 BST, Jenny Moon wrote: > >Did someone tell me recently that the web site address had changed for > >the National Pipe Organ Register? (NPOR). I feel sure someone did. > ... > The new address is <www.bios.org.uk/npor_hello.html     BUT. the old address still works; I tried it just now. http://lehuray.csi.cam.ac.uk/npor.html   -- Mac Hayes mach37@ptw.com Cogito per aspera      
(back) Subject: My New/Old 1936 Wicks Pipe Organ (residence organ) From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 22:50:19 -0500   ((FROM: Kevin Cartwright))   Hello all!   Well, it's been three days since I've had the organ in the house, so I think it's about time to explain my new acquisition. I'm sure this is a nice addition to the residence organ topics on "PipeOrg-L," and interesting for others and non-listers. Several other people have been asking how the trip went, also almost telling me to do a trip write up, so, here it is. I have also sent it to several other neighbors and friends who might not have a clue as to what is going on until they read this letter.   Nothing was working out until the week before I actually went to St. Louis for the removal. Then, all the plans fell into place over a span of two days early that week. The flight was horrible. We were delayed everywhere we went. The first leg was from Montgomery on a smaller commuter company (a "Delta Connection" line), who crammed us onto a mid-sized prop plane. I'll just say that flying through a strong thunderstorm in one of those, well... Atlanta was also a weather nightmare. AND, we took off late after the plane's staff decided they'd show up about 15 or 20 minutes late. We flew streight for the lightning, but everything went O.K., and we were only about 45 minutes late to St. Louis.   At the airport, a nice man named Paul Carton met us at the gate, and drove us to the Ryder (rental truck) business, and we acquired the 15' truck. We then followed him to St. Louis Pipe Organ, who promptly sold us some nice pipe crates and boxes, along with several types of packing material. We arrived at the church late, but I still played the organ before the power was disconnected. I also got to meet a friend and fellow PipeChat-L member, John Speller.   Basically, the organ was out of the church and in the church after about 4 hours of work with a nice lunch break in the middle. We then drove to Highland, IL, where we were to tour the Wicks factory the next day. We found ourselves in the middle of the Highland residential area, and were trying to orient ourselves back to the main road in order to try to find a hotel. We accidentally stumbled upon Wicks' Aircraft Division. So, my father had to find the other part of the business, and he went inside the office. It turns out we were welcome to take the tour Friday, instead of our specially scheduled Saturday tour, and so that went on.   The factory was interesting. I got to play the best of three worlds, a Wicks digital organ, Wicks pipe/digital combo, and a Wicks (all) pipe organ. That complete pipe organ happened to be the Wicks theatre organ in the aircraft building. We also looked through the parts warehouse, and I was especially interested in a box tremulant they had for sale. All three, of course, were of exceptional quality (ESPECIALLY the all digital and theatre pipe organ). As a customer, I think Wicks has the best customer service of any pipe organ business. A note to Jack Jenkins; they showed me your office. (And I DID see the train on your desk ;-) The closest Wicks organ to you unknowing Greenville residents is at the First United Methodist Church, the one I play every week.   Anyway, with the unexpected early tour, we were out and driving by 7:00 p.m. CST. We drove without incident all night and arrived back here in Greenville, AL at about 5:30 a.m. Saturday morning. Everything dealing with the wind system was set up and operating Saturday night. The last thing I recall doing is making sure all the pipes were in order and all toes were in their proper holes. Sunday, after church, our electrician friend came over, and we had everything dealing with the electric end in order by mid-Sunday afternoon, and of course, the organ was playing. The pedalboard went on Sunday night, and I connected everything Monday morning. All there is left to do is tune the thing.   Someone told me they wanted me to set up their next organ, and another said they were surprised to learn it is already playing. Is there something strange about this timeframe?? Anyway, the lower 12 notes of the Bourdon 16' stop on this organ were replaced by quinting the Gedeckt 8' for space reasons, so I plan on buying the real thing again for the real 16' tone. But, everything is set up, and I have affected my new plan of only going to church once a week, and I have a nice practice instrument. It can also be shared with the neighbors if I open the window in the music/train room. It also bleeds through the outside wall a little, so you can still hear it outside, but not enough to bother our friendly neighbors.   What makes this organ a little more interesting than most is two basic facts. 1) The whole organ operates from one simple 120v 3 prong wall outlet plug. I unplug it when not playing. This will eliminate the chance for lightning damage when the organ is not supervised. 2) The organ is "fully temporary." Basically, I can remove the whole thing, and leave only an impression on the carpet. This organ IS small enough to take to college, and I plan on doing that. This organ also means Greenville has five pipe organs now, no longer four. :-)   So, the proud moment I've been waiting for...my stoplist: <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Great: 61 notes B Bourdon (TC) 16' A Open Diapason (1-12 B) 8' B Gedeckt Flute 8' C Viola Dolce (1-12 B) 8' A Principal 4' B Flute d'Amour 4' B Flautino 2'   Swell: 61 notes B Lieblich Gedeckt (TC) 16' A Diapason (1-12 B) 8' B Stopped Flute 8' B Quintadena (8' + 2 2/3') 8' C Salicional (1-12 B) 8' B Flute 4' C Violin 4' C Quintette 2 2/3' C Oboe (8' + 4' + 2 2/3') 8' Tremolo   Pedal: 32 notes B Bourdon (1-12 quinted) 16' B Bass Flute 8' A Octave 4' B Flute 4'   Resources: A: Diapason 4', 61 pipes, zinc & spotted metal B: Gedeckt 8', 85 pipes, stopped wood & metal C: String 4', 61 pipes, zinc & spotted metal <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>   So, I hope to add to the resource list- D: Bourdon 16', 12 pipes, stopped wood.   I owe thanks to: Alan Laufman (Organ Clearing House) Epiphany Episcopal Church (and Mike Schmidt and son) Paul Carton (technical advice and a lot of physical help) John Speller (advice, help, and suggestions) Alan Nagel (St. Louis Pipe Organ) Jack Jenkins and Mark Wick (Wicks Pipe Organ Company) Pat Richard (Greenville, AL, offered advice) James Reeves (Greenville, AL, did electrical work) and the list probably goes on for 20 or so more lines...   I will keep a 24 hour open console policy (well, at least while someone is at home and awake), so please feel free to arrange a visit if you live in Greenville, or are passing through the area. I am partially required to hold a dedicatory recital after the organ is tuned. More info on that later. So congradulations...you've made it to the end!   For now,   Kevin Cartwright Secondary Organist, First United Methodist Church Student, Greenville High School Greenville, Alabama List Owner, "Pipes and Trains" kevin1@alaweb.com (334) 382-7756 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Join "Pipes and Trains" at http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/pipes-trains An e-mail list for those who like organs, trains, or both. Most unrelated conversation welcome!! <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>      
(back) Subject: Re: My New/Old 1936 Wicks Pipe Organ (residence organ) From: "Peggy C. Bie" <peggyb@gate.net> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:30:12 -0400   Dear Kevin,   Wow! I am definitely impressed. I predict a fantastic career ahead of you. You're at the extreme upper end of the standard bell curve ;-)   I can't believe a high school student can write such a fine report - well organized and no misspelled words.   But you must have someone else to thank than those names on your list. Who has been your teacher, that you know so much at your tender age? And what is this list? Do you also belong to Piporg-1 and PipeChat?   When you get to college (where are you going?), no other student will have his own organ, so you'll have lots of admiring friends.   Up and running in 3 days - incredible! I can't wait until I see what you will be playing for your dedicatory recital. I can imagine how proud your parents must be. They have done a good job!   Good luck with your life.   Rev. Peggy C. Bie "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." -Anais Nin http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/1095  
(back) Subject: Re: My New/Old 1936 Wicks Pipe Organ (residence organ) From: "Peggy C. Bie" <peggyb@gate.net> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:30:12 -0400   Dear Kevin,   Wow! I am definitely impressed. I predict a fantastic career ahead of you. You're at the extreme upper end of the standard bell curve ;-)   I can't believe a high school student can write such a fine report - well organized and no misspelled words.   But you must have someone else to thank than those names on your list. Who has been your teacher, that you know so much at your tender age? And what is this list? Do you also belong to Piporg-1 and PipeChat?   When you get to college (where are you going?), no other student will have his own organ, so you'll have lots of admiring friends.   Up and running in 3 days - incredible! I can't wait until I see what you will be playing for your dedicatory recital. I can imagine how proud your parents must be. They have done a good job!   Good luck with your life.   Rev. Peggy C. Bie "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." -Anais Nin http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/1095    
(back) Subject: Re: My New/Old 1936 Wicks Pipe Organ (residence organ) From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:52:56 -0500   >I will keep a 24 hour open console policy (well, at least while someone >is at home and awake), so please feel free to arrange a visit if you >live in Greenville, or are passing through the area. I am partially >required to hold a dedicatory recital after the organ is tuned. More >info on that later. So congradulations...you've made it to the end! > >For now, > >Kevin Cartwright   Kevin, how exciting. If I were closer I'd be over to experience it personally. Have fun!   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Cross posting to all organ lists. From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:09:18 -0400   I don't know if I am the only one, but I find it annoying in the extreme to have to read the same message from some of our fellow listers over and over.   I don't have to pay for my downloading time, but I am sure that there are people who do, and it is a real wastre of time to find that the same message has been sent to all the organ lists.   Can we have some sense of how others feel on this matter? Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> http://www.greenford.demon.co.uk/bob/   Classics Director CFRC-FM 101.9 MHz Radio Queen's University Kingston, Ontario, K7L 3N6 CANADA        
(back) Subject: Re: Cross posting to all organ lists. From: danbel@earthlink.net Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:21:43 -0400   Bob Conway wrote: > > I don't know if I am the only one, but I find it annoying in the extreme to > have to read the same message from some of our fellow listers over and over. >   You are certainly NOT the only one who finds this objectionable--AND frustrating!!   djb  
(back) Subject: Re: Cross posting to all organ lists. From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:17:24 -0500   >I don't know if I am the only one, but I find it annoying in the extreme to >have to read the same message from some of our fellow listers over and over.   >Can we have some sense of how others feel on this matter? >Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>     As one who is only on one list (PipeChat), I enjoy seeing the posts but I also am on a dixieland jazz list and just don't want to have more messages than I get in one day. That's why I'm only on one organ list. I'll be interested to see how others respond.   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: Cross posting to all organ lists. From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:21:25 EDT   Bob Conway writes:   << I don't know if I am the only one, but I find it annoying in the extreme to >have to read the same message from some of our fellow listers over and over. >Can we have some sense of how others feel on this matter? >>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There are many of us (me for example) who are signed on to only one organ list.   If some items are not cross-posted, I'd never see them   Vicki Ceruti  
(back) Subject: RE: Cross posting to all organ lists. From: "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:38:17 -0700   > Bob Conway writes: > > << I don't know if I am the only one, but I find it annoying in the > extreme to > >have to read the same message from some of our fellow listers over > and over. > > >Can we have some sense of how others feel on this matter? >> > I, too, am on only this list. However, I don't feel cheated if the poster chooses only one list and it's not pipechat.   More than that, I appreciate posters who get to the point and are not so verbose. Some of us don't have time to read a novel.  
(back) Subject: Re: Cross posting to all organ lists. From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:45:41 EDT   In the messages listing on AOL the two usually appear together -- one above the other. Whenever I see that I just delete one without opening it. Perhaps this isn't as simple on other mail programs. It's annoying, but not that bad for me.  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat T shirts :-) From: "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonahall@indiana.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:58:23 -0500   Jon wrote, I trust with a twinkle in his eye:     >>>Gee what some folks won't do to expand their wardrobe,,,hint, hint I don't have one....btw DrEd...pointy hoods with eye holes are only worn in Southern Indiana dees days.   jc   --Of course, as an NYC native studying in Southern Indiana, I should point out to the List that the Ku Klux Klan is currently much more popular in New England and on Long Island than here...the only pointy hoods that are popular in *this* area right now are MM and DM hoods. When I last looked, they didn't have eyeholes, and are worn straight down the back.   Twinkle, twinkle!     Yours in the love of medieval regalia,     Jonathan B. Hall Bloomington, Indiana      
(back) Subject: Re: Cross posting to all organ lists. From: <KZimme7737@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:20:38 EDT   I don't like it. That's the problem with so many lists. We don't want to miss anyone. Keith  
(back) Subject: Re: Cross posting to all organ lists. From: dt676@freenet.carleton.ca (Ross C Robinson) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:02:15 -0400 (EDT)   > >I don't know if I am the only one, but I find it annoying in the extreme to >have to read the same message from some of our fellow listers over and over. > >Can we have some sense of how others feel on this matter? >Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>   Agree fully with your comment, but it seems to me a problem without a simple solution. What would be of more use is some coding system in the message line so we don't have to try and guess which message files to open, ie., t for technical, c for concert announcements, r for requests for help on ..., etc.   Ross   -- Ross C Robinson, dt676@freenet.carleton.ca Lion Tamer, taming the King of Musical Beasts.  
(back) Subject: Re: Cross posting to all organ lists. From: kwkeller@juno.com (KARL W KELLER) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:23:18 -0400   I use JUNO free e-mail to receive the PipeChat list and NETCOM to receive the PipOrg List. My Juno e-mail downloads in less than a minute and costs me nothing in service charge or long distance phone call. Frankly I like the idea of cross posting as it gives a much larger subscriber base to receive your message. HOWEVER all cross posts should be marked accordingly to alert the list members to hit the delete key when necessary.   Karl Musica est Dei donum optimi   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Kansas City? From: j nathan <jnatpat@sunsix.infi.net> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:28:52 -0500   Hi~ Going to be in Kansas City this weekend. What should I try to see "organically" ? Thanks...   J Nathan Patton  
(back) Subject: Re: Cross posting to all organ lists. From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:21:40 -0500   Dear complainers:   I am an admitted cross-poster. I also watch others do it, and it causes me no problem, just TWO extra clicks of the mouse and the copy is gone. Even though I read over 200 e-mails a day, it is still not a problem, and I like when people don't leave anyone out. It is not at all hard to delete an extra copy. I sometimes get five of the same message that has been posted to five different lists (that's rare, not many people are on the same 5 at one time). I would be leaving several people out if I didn't post but to one list. I have good friends on three larger lists, and more on the newer ones. I think all this complaining about having to delete another message is like complaining about having to flip the switch or push the button to turn the organ on. Also, I have found, even on my OLD SLOW modem, that e-mail doesn't take much time to download unless it has something large attached (i.e. a nice color picture or *.wav file). So add about an extra second or three for the extra message. If you had something to sell, wouldn't YOU post to all lists in order not to miss anyone??   Just another thought...   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com      
(back) Subject: Re: Kansas City? From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:39:10 -0500 (CDT)   At 09:28 PM 6/10/98 -0500, J. Nathan Patton wrote: >Hi~ > Going to be in Kansas City this weekend. What should I try >to see "organically" ? Thanks...   Do you mean Kansas City, Missouri or Kansas City, Kansas? If Kansas City, Missouri, an absolute "must see" is the 4-55 1910 E. M. Skinner organ, op. 190, in the Grand Avenue Methodist Temple.   John Speller, St. Louis, Missouri.    
(back) Subject: New Web Site: PSTOS (x-posted) From: Tom Blackwell (NS/33) 425-957-8648 <tom@spry.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:18:01 -0700   Puget Sound Theatre Organ Society (PSTOS) invites you to visit a new web site:   http://www.pstos.org   PSTOS is a chapter of the American Theatre Organ Society headquartered in the Seattle-Tacoma area. We've assembled hundreds of pages of information and photos about instruments and organists (past & present) from the Pacific Northwest- Washington, Oregon, Idaho and British Columbia.   PSTOS is fortunate to have been gifted the historic Bill Bunch archives of Northwest theatre organ memorabilia. There are literally thousands of pages of fascinating information and photos still to be added. Watch the "What's New" link for a listing of recent updates.   We hope you'll enjoy reading about the rich tradition of the Theatre Pipe Organ in the Pacific Northwest. Thank you for visiting.   Tom Blackwell tom@pstos.org PSTOS    
(back) Subject: The Strawberry Concerts, Westbury NY (x-post) From: mewzishn@spec.net Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:12:34 +0000   The Fiftieth Annual Strawberry Festival 13 June 1998   Church of the Advent Jericho Turnpike and Advent Street Westbury, New York   Rev'd Jeffrey Hoyt Krantz, rector Kenneth L. Sybesma, choirmaster and organist     The Strawberry Organ Concerts     11.00 AM   Toccata and Fugue in D minor, J.S. Bach Andante Tranquillo (Capriol Suite) Peter Warlock Improvisation on audience-selected themes Toccata, Michel Leclerc     1.00 PM   Toccata and Fugue in D minor, J.S. Bach The Enchanted Garden, Maurice Ravel Improvisation on audience-selected themes Toccata (Suite Gothique), Leon Boellmann     2.30 PM   Toccata and Fugue in D minor, J.S. Bach Pictures at an Exhibition, Modest Mussorgsky (excerpts) Improvisation on audience-selected themes Toccata (Symphony V), Charles Marie Widor     The Strawberry Concerts have been developed in collaboration between the rector and myself as a way to further the impact into the community of the parish worship program. Planned to last about 25 to 30 minutes each, we're hoping that they'll be people-friendly, incorporating music that's interesting while giving the audience a chance to help "program" some of what's played and heard. Rather than doing the same program three times over, I've decided to on the variety of pieces primarily to keep it from getting to be too much of a drudge for me. I'm leaving things sort of loose -- if the entire T'n'F is too much and we get fidgeting at the 11 AM concert I'm going to drop the fugue from the 1 and 2.30 programs. I'm expecting familiar hymns and such for the "themes," we'll see what gets requested for the improvs, I'll report anything unusual.   The Sunday after the Strawberry Festival is the annual outdoor liturgy; I'll post music for that in the next day or two.