PipeChat Digest #290 - Tuesday, March 10, 1998
 
Re: Vaguely Musical :)
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Vaguely Musical :)
  by Cornelius Heckel <heckelphone@mailcity.com>
Re: Vaguely Musical :)
  by FireAlarmz <FireAlarmz@aol.com>
Real Pipes
  by Ruth <theraven@istar.ca>
Miscellanea Organica Correction
  by Cpmnhartus <Cpmnhartus@aol.com>
Re: Vaguely Musical :)
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Real Pipes
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Real Pipes
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: upcoming concerts phila area
  by Claire <fleahopper@earthlink.net>
Re: Vaguely Musical :)
  by Judy A. Ollikkala <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Recorder/Harpsichord CD
  by <rnickel@itol.com>
Re: Real Pipes
  by FireAlarmz <FireAlarmz@aol.com>
Re: Real Pipes
  by Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Sheetrock
  by Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: upcoming concerts phila area
  by KARL W KELLER <kwkeller@juno.com>
Re: Sheetrock
  by GRS Co LVR <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Excruciatingly Musical :)
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Real Pipes
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Sheetrock
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Sheetrock
  by ComposerTX <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Re: Sheetrock
  by Kurt Kehler <kmkehler@compuserve.com>
Re: Sheetrock
  by Kurt Kehler <kmkehler@compuserve.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Vaguely Musical :) From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:45:33 -0500   >isn't Madison avenue just a caution.   The above expression reminds me of a time when my brother-in-law was in the bank, standing in line behind two women from my "nutty aunt" ' s church. They were discussing some of her recent antics and one said, "Oh, you know Beryldine. She's such a treasure." "Oh, yes!" the other replied. "The kind you bury in the woods!" To make the post "organic" auntie loved the huge pipe organ in the church because it drownded out the voices in her head! (As you can tell, retirement is loads of fun in my family!)   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Vaguely Musical :) From: "Cornelius Heckel" <heckelphone@mailcity.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 09:06:27 -0700   On Mon, 9 Mar 1998 cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) wrote:   >>isn't Madison avenue just a caution.     >To make the post "organic" auntie loved the huge pipe organ in the >church because it drownded out the voices in her head! >(As you can tell, retirement is loads of fun in my family!) <<---     From what already I have been reading for a short time on the list this is a frightening prospect I think. In his head we since a long time thinks Mr. Cornely is hearing voices.   Maybe worse it is going to get?   Nels Heckel           Get your FREE, private e-mail account at http://www.mailcity.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Vaguely Musical :) From: FireAlarmz <FireAlarmz@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:05:48 EST   << From what already I have been reading for a short time on the list this is a frightening prospect I think. In his head we since a long time thinks Mr. Cornely is hearing voices. Maybe worse it is going to get? Nels Heckel >> Mebbe BETTER it is going to get?   Bill Miller (who likes Bruce Cornely--really--trackerbacking and all)  
(back) Subject: Real Pipes From: Ruth <theraven@istar.ca> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:38:09 -0500     To The List,   Today I had the great fortune to play my first non-digital organ. The description by: Mr. Simon Dyk ( who let me come and play on it): "A small but very fine 1977 Karl Wilhelm (12 ranks) mechanical action organ in a wonderful acoustical setting". Since I have never had the pleasure of hearing real pipes I have to say that it was a most wonderful experience. It was really great, what a sound.( I did miss there not being an expression pedal).   Anyway, I just wanted to share with you the kindness of Mr Simon Dyk to let me come, he is a great guy. He also gave me practicing tips, set the registrations for me, and also played for me.   Ruth "In love with pipes"    
(back) Subject: Miscellanea Organica Correction From: Cpmnhartus <Cpmnhartus@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:39:00 EST   From Copeman Hart - America 9 March 1998   Dear Listers:   I just looked again at my January 1998 issue of The American Organist and re- read in Alan Laufman's fine column, Miscellanea Organica, the notice of Mr. John Scott's All Hallows Eve 1997 re-dedication recital of the organ in the chapel of St. Paul's School, Concord, New Hampshire. The information about the organ's rebuilding as supplied to Mr. Laufman is incomplete and, therefore, this matter needs to be brought to your attention.   The new four-manual console was designed, by, as well as provided by, the firm of Copeman Hart and Company, Ltd. Copeman Hart provided the pipe action for the organ and also provided some electronic stops in the Pedal department. The whole of the Antiphonal is pure Copeman Hart electronic stops. All electronic stops were voiced on site by Copeman Hart, Church Organ Builders of Irthlingborough, England.   Before closing, I wish to congratulate Mr. Laufman on his fine news column. It is a most welcome and much needed new monthly feature in The American Organist.   Sincerely yours,   George W. Bayley Senior U. S. Consultant Copeman Hart - America 107 East Pasadena Road Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37830-5112   E-mail: Cpmnhartus@aol.com Tel. & Fax. 423.482.8600   COPEMAN HART & COMPANY, LTD. Church Organ Builders IRTHLINGLOROUGH Northamptonshire ENGLAND NN9 5TZ   http://www.copemanhart.co.uk Tel +44 (0)1933 652600 Fax +44 (0)1933 652288   AUSTRALIAN CONSULTANCY Copeman Hart - Australia 60 Memorial Avenue ST. IVES NSW 2075   E-mail: hamilton.stives@bigpond.com Tel. 0414 477 352 or 02 9983 9774 Fax 02 9983 9709  
(back) Subject: Re: Vaguely Musical :) From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:49:20 -0500   Thank you Bill, but BETTER is WORSE (maniacal hehehe)   PS you'll be happy to know that I just finished listening to Charles Krigbaum playing wondergoo on the Woolsey Hall organ at Yale, on my OHS Connecticut CD (i am happy to be back on line after a change of clothes ;-) ). I also heard my first recorded solo performance at an OHS convention... I was ringing the bell at the end of the hymn on band 12 (record 1). It was really exciting ('nuther change of clothes <g>) Well, must run fix supper (almost time for Melrose Place!!!)     bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Real Pipes From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:03:30 -0500   Ruth, Not only in love with pipe, but tracker action too! Welcome to the wonderful world of REAL organs!!!! Soon you'll be eternally hooked!!   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Real Pipes From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:11:18 -0500   Ruth, forgot to offer extra congratulations on your beginning with pipes, but with pipes from the hands of Karl Wilhelm. I really enjoyed his 2-manual organ at St. Paul's Cathedral in Burlington Vermont (along with the snow, of course), and also his smaller organ in the Episocpal Church in downtown Montpelier (it too had no expression pedal, but was very expressive). We have heard some really beautiful Wilhelm organs at OHS conventions, especially the 3manual (I think) at the Congregational (I think, again) Church in Ann Arbor. I look for Wilhelm's organs every where I go, and am never let down.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: upcoming concerts phila area From: Claire <fleahopper@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:09:18 -0500   Wanamaker Organ - Sunday 4/19, Sat. 6/6 - Grand Court Organ Day+ a PM event at Girard College E M Skinner organ, and Sunday 7/5. Also in April the Phila. Organ Quartet (on Allen organs I think) - four at once. Rather than waste bandwidth, please email me for details (time/date etc) if you're interested. The Wanamaker Organ concerts (in the store) are free. The others have a charge. Hope to see some of you there! Claire    
(back) Subject: Re: Vaguely Musical :) From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:25:56 -0500   Gee, Bruce, I got the OHS CT set but haven't listened to it yet. I will listen especially for the bellringing bit! How many changes of clothes are needed for the whole set??  
(back) Subject: Recorder/Harpsichord CD From: rnickel@itol.com Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:20:08 -0600 (CST)   Hi, List:   Not a digital/pipe topic, but I wanted to pass along that I just received a great CD: Keith Jarrett (harpsichord) and Michala Petri (recorder) performing Bach sonatas. What a great CD. I've enjoyed listening to it *twice* tonight.   This CD is recorded on the RCA label and is available from the BMG Classical Music Club.   Bob Nickel    
(back) Subject: Re: Real Pipes From: FireAlarmz <FireAlarmz@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:45:03 EST   << Ruth, Not only in love with pipe, but tracker action too! Welcome to the wonderful world of REAL organs!!!! Soon you'll be eternally hooked!! bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o >> YES, YES ...BUT--if it weren't a *tracker*, one could unify the heck out of it and wind up with a 150-stop monster organ!! hehe :)   Bill Miller  
(back) Subject: Re: Real Pipes From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:31:10 -0600   FireAlarmz wrote: > > << > Ruth, > Not only in love with pipe, but tracker action too! Welcome to the > wonderful world of REAL organs!!!! Soon you'll be eternally hooked!! > > bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o > >> > YES, YES ...BUT--if it weren't a *tracker*, one could unify the heck out of it > and wind up with a 150-stop monster organ!! hehe :) > > Bill Miller   I played a three-ranker one time with about 23 stops (of course, they all worked, and there were two manuals and pedals). I know it's probably not a real extreme for me, but it was for me (I'm not fluent in the unified world. I have very few unified stops on my organ).   Anyway...   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: Sheetrock From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:37:59 -0600   I just have to ask a stupid question. I am trying to get an organ into a house that does not have room for it. I want to place the expression shades behind a current wall. I wanted to removed the sheetrock and insulation, and brace the expression shades and the grills to the studs left behind. That way, I wouldn't have to remove the entire wall, but the organ could sound through it as well. My parents, instead of using the grills, want to leave one layer of sheetrock in order to lessen the repair work after we move out (whenever that is). So, will the organ sound through one half-inch layer of sheetrock (and not sound like a bad radio)? I need something reasonable to tell them.   THANKS!!   Kevin Cartwright Greenville, Alabama kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: Re: upcoming concerts phila area From: kwkeller@juno.com (KARL W KELLER) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 23:05:48 EST   Hi Clair,   Please send me full info. If it OK with you I'll forward the info to Harry Bellangy to be included in our newsletter.   Thanks,   Karl Musica est Dei donum optimi   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: Sheetrock From: GRS Co LVR <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:48:54 EST   Kevin: It will not work,,,that is to say it will not work in a satisfactory manner,,,otherwise every pipe organ would or could be enclosed in a plasterboard box,,,which they arent. Any job worth doing is worth doing right in my opinion.   Roc  
(back) Subject: Excruciatingly Musical :) From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:58:00 -0500   I just finished listening to the whole CD set from OHS Connecticut. There are really some beautiful moments on it, especially some of the big Hutchings and Skinners. My favorites still remain in the 15-stop range; I really like the delicacy of those organs. The hymns, of course, are typically moving, again especially Engleberg on the Hutchings at Christ Church -- Ansonia. If you're careful you can probably manage with one change of clothes and a stack of hankies! Happy listening.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Real Pipes From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:03:43 -0500   Now Bill, you might wind up with a huge console with 150 unified stops, but you'd still have a little organ (live with that <g>)!!   I had an absolutely wonderful evening listening to huge (ununified) EP's from the OHS convention in Connecticut. If you have the CD's (and if you don't they are a must!) one of my favorites is the Hutchings at Christ Church -- Ansonia and the Skinner at Trinity on the Green. Of course Krigbaum on the Woolsey Hall organ was amazing; the man really is a master and his playing is unforgettable.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Sheetrock From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:19:08 -0500   I would not think the organ would sound very good through even one layer of sheet rock. It seems that when you move it would not cost much more to have both sides of the wall re- sheet rocked. As far as something reasonable to tell them, you got me!   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Sheetrock From: ComposerTX <ComposerTX@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:41:57 EST   organ through sheetrock? tell your parents "It won't work."  
(back) Subject: Re: Sheetrock From: "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:58:45 -0500   Kevin,   I know a local organ builder who, when young and just starting out, placed a rather low bid on the removal of an organ from a church. To his surprise, the church accepted his bid. After filling the family garage with pipe organ parts, his father built an addition to the house to make room to assemble the organ.   >I am trying to get an organ into >a house that does not have room for it.   Best, Kurt Kehler          
(back) Subject: Re: Sheetrock From: "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 03:12:44 -0500   On Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:43:53 -0500, Kevin Cartwright wrote:   >I am trying to get an organ into >a house that does not have room for it.   Last May, our refrigerator stopped making cold air. The wife and I went out and picked a nice looking, slightly larger than what we had, GE model. Did I mention that she forgot to measure before we went shopping?. So I measured when we got home. Rather than admit defeat, and delay delivery, by selecting a smaller model, I removed the offending kitchen cabinets. Delivery was the next day. It was still a tight fit, after removing the doors, just to get it through the kitchen door, though it fit its final destination. The delivery guys are likely still cursing us, but it was worth the delivery fee to watch a professional installation, and not have the refrigerator fall on me. :-)   Three weeks ago, we finally got the ice maker attached to water. Now I have a hole in the downstairs ceiling's sheetrock that needs patching.   Specs: (cross-posted to Refrig-L) One rank (with minimal unification) Four stops: Cubed Crushed Light Water Pipework: one copper 16' 1/4" flexible pipe There are no plans for a combination action at this time.   Kurt Kehler