PipeChat Digest #307 - Tuesday, March 24, 1998
 
Hymn tune:  Kedron
  by "cpeery19" <cpeery19@IDT.NET>
Re: Great Performers
  by "Ruth" <theraven@istar.ca>
humor-humor-humor
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Name that Hymn
  by "Ronnymn" <Ronnymn@aol.com>
Re: Practice Ideas
  by "ComposerTX" <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #306 - 03/23/98
  by "Bruce Behnke" <behnke@isat.com>
*#Notification of Gober Organs Inc. URL Change of Address
  by "CJSD" <noto@river.netrover.com>
Is this really needed on the list?
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Re: Practice
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Practice
  by "Kenneth O. Woods" <kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil>
Re: Practice Ideas
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Hymn tune:  Kedron
  by <Fred@ecr.net>
Hymn tune:  Kedron
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
*#Notification of Gober Organs Inc. URL Change of Address
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: Hymn tune: Kedron
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Re: Practice
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Hymn Tune
  by "karencl@worldnet.att.net" <karencl@worldnet.att.net>
Concert In Chicago Area
  by "Devon 3000" <Devon3000@aol.com>
Musical Heritage Society Phone no
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Name that Hymn
  by "ManderUSA" <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: Name that Hymn
  by "j nathan" <jnatpat@sunsix.infi.net>
Re: Musical Heritage Society Phone no
  by "Jack R Hooton" <jhooton@darientel.net>
Re: Name that Hymn
  by "Ronnymn" <Ronnymn@aol.com>
Re: Introduction
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
IV Lent, Westbury NY (x-post)
  by <mewzishn@spec.net>
Re: Introduction
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
 


(back) Subject: Hymn tune: Kedron From: cpeery19 <cpeery19@IDT.NET> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 05:24:48 +0000   Dear Listers   Anyone familiar with the hymn tune "Kedron", set by Wilbur Held in his set of folk hymns for organ?   What I'd like to know is the most common text set to this tune.   Thanks! Chuck Peery Cincinnati  
(back) Subject: Re: Great Performers From: Ruth <theraven@istar.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:45:59 -0500   Hi Shirley,   Yes, thanks..... Humility.... and what you described is exactly what I was trying to say.   Ruth    
(back) Subject: humor-humor-humor From: Paul Opel <popel@sover.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:45:53 -0400     I kinda liked this one (despite its mostly nonorganic nature-please forgive me) copied from Vince Sabio's Humournet.   Collage 391 H u m o u r N e t 23 Mar 1998     ========================[ H U M O U R N E T ]=======================   SUBJ: The Survival Guide to Boring Sermons   Pass a note to the organist asking whether he/she plays requests.   See if a yawn really is contagious.   Slap your neighbor. See if he turns the other cheek. If not, raise your hand and tell the priest/preacher.   Devise ways of climbing into the balcony without using the stairs.   Listen for your preacher to use a word beginning with 'A' then 'B and so on through the alphabet.   Sit in the back row and roll a handful of marbles under the pews ahead of you. After the service, credit yourself with 10 points for every marble that made it to the front.   Using church notice sheets or newcomers cards for raw materials, design, test and modify a collection of paper airplanes..   Start from the back of the church and try to crawl all the way to the front, under the pews, without being noticed..   Raise your hand and ask for permission to go to the lavatory.   Chew gum; if the sermon goes on for more than 15 minutes, start blowing bubbles.   Try to indicate to the minister that his fly is undone.   By unobtrusively drawing your arms up into your sleeves, turn your shirt around backwards..   Wiggle your ears so that the people behind you will notice.   Practice smiling insincerely.     ******************************************************************** Anyone Without a Sense of Humor Is At The Mercy of The Rest of Us. ********************************************************************   "HumourNet" is brought to you by Lyris -- an innovative new e-mail list server from The Walter Shelby Group, Ltd. For more information on Lyris, see <http://www.lyris.com/>.   To subscribe to the "HumourNet" mailing list, send the following command to <lyris@lyris.net>:   subscribe HumourNet your_name, your_city, your_state or country   where "your_name" is your real name, etc. If you run into problems, then either (1) send any message to <HumourNet-info@lyris.net> for a more detailed set of instructions, (2) subscribe via Lyris's Web interface at <http://www.lyris.net/>, or (3) send a *detailed* description of the problem to <Listmom@telephonet.com>.   To unsubscribe, visit our Web interface at <http://www.lyris.net/>, forward any HumourNet posting to <leave-humournet@lyris.net>, or see to your Welcome message for detailed instructions.   For instructions on contributing to HumourNet, send any message to <contribution-guidelines@lyris.net>.   >>> Note: Attributions in Collage openers are to the contributors, not necessarily the authors. Authors' credits are included in the text wherever possible. <<<   The HumourNet archives can be accessed via the Web and FTP:   Web: <http://www.humournet.com/HumourNet/> FTP: <ftp://ftp.humournet.com/pub/HumourNet/Collage.Archives/>   http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: Name that Hymn From: Ronnymn <Ronnymn@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:02:27 EST   Am sure this is an easy one, but I caught just a bit of a public radio program yesterday. Here are the bits: host Richard ?, program Heart and Song? maybe, seemed to be organ and choral. English ? Anyway, what is the Theme piece or hymn (I am assuming it was a theme for the program, if not, then my question is impossible to answer of course.) Oh, I think it originated from New York too. tks Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: Practice Ideas From: ComposerTX <ComposerTX@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:24:14 EST   Karen I always start with the material I dread, and work toward the material I relish. Kind of a nice incentive built in to the process. I also practice at least part of the time with the radio playing a rock station, to assist in keeping my concentration on what I'm doing. Do you also practice sometimes without the stops on? It's amazing how much we depend on our ears when playing, and it's great to make me concentrate on what my fingers are doing, and to rely ONLY on that. Much success. Danny Ray  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #306 - 03/23/98 From: Bruce Behnke <behnke@isat.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 98 07:47:03 -0000   >%#@&%*&%$# !!   Bruce, you keep talking like this and I'm gonna have to come over there and wash your modem out with soap just like my mother used to do.   The other Bruce  
(back) Subject: *#Notification of Gober Organs Inc. URL Change of Address From: CJSD <noto@river.netrover.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:27:28 -0500 (EST)   The Gober Organs Inc. Website has moved. Our New address is:   http://www.interlog.com/~goberorg (Effective March 23, 1998)   Please update your links and bookmarks.   Thanks for your time and trouble.   ************************************************************ Simon Dyk Toronto Canada   GOBER ORGANS INC. http://www.interlog.com/~goberorg CHURCH OF THE TRANSFIGURATION http://www.interlog.com/~transfig/trans.htm PERSONAL HOME PAGE: http://www.netrover.com/~noto/gober/~noto.html      
(back) Subject: Is this really needed on the list? From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:55:41 -0500   It seems to me that this sort of rubbish is getting out of hand. It is rather like school-children might talk!   May I respectfully ask the two Bruces to curtail this thread, and stick to matters organic?   Bob Conway.       At 07:47 AM 3/23/98 -0000, you wrote: >>%#@&%*&%$# !! > >Bruce, you keep talking like this and I'm gonna have to come over there >and wash your modem out with soap just like my mother used to do. > >The other Bruce    
(back) Subject: Re: Practice From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:19:30 -0500   Karen, (wait a minute, must put on flame-prooof bathrobe -- hehe it's my day off) I have found a wonderful way to give myself extra practice time. I stopped learning diddly chorale prelude/hymn based preludelets. I play either substantial literature (or excerpt thereof) or improvise on the opening hymn while those in the procession are casting lots in the narthex for their place in line. That way, when I have time to practice I grab a stack-O-favorites and go play to my heart's contentment, taking time to polish spots that have become dim from lack of use and revelling in those episodes which still lie comfortably under the fingers and in the mind. I have two wedding coming up next week, and had absolutely no trouble finding wonderful pieces for the premartial musings; and both programs are different in case they have common friends! (or should I say friends in common!) This method is also easier on the bank account as books of preludiolas are not cheap and purchasing a BOOK and then being able to use one or two pieces really slams my shutters. Because I am in an RC church, I must share my practice time with those who come in for prayer and devotions; this gives me the opportunity to do as I was ordered as a student -- practice softly and slowly. This not only gives a new feel and clarity to the music for me, but it subliminally exposes the music of the masters to parishoners (heh heh). There really is so much good literature to learn, I just can't justify bothering with piddly stuff. And don't pull that, "but I'm not a concert organist" baloney -- it's Lent....NO MEAT (realizing that baloney, like SPAM, barely qualifies!). Using quality literature for practice and service playing will greatly aid you in becoming a better organist, whereas always staying "within your means" will not. A funny: I was working on some Messiaen, which was brought to my attention on this list for "dim" Easter music---thank you!, and a lady came over to the console and said she was glad I wasn't playing real music while she prayed; the "space stuff" was nice! Regarding the anthems and such, I practice them during my utility time which is when I am setting up and otherwise preparing for rehearsals; they just seem to fit better there, separated from literature time. Enjoooooooy!   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Practice From: kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil (Kenneth O. Woods) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 98 11:31:34 EST   Shoot if I had time to practice, maybe I wouldn't need this day job! -- Kenneth O. Woods kow987@dice.crane.navy.mil  
(back) Subject: Re: Practice Ideas From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:41:08 -0500   Danny Ray practices without stops during practice time.... isn't that what sermons are for?   And for background noise during practice, Sally Jesse Raphael is as close to congregational chitchat as they come!!   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Hymn tune: Kedron From: Fred@ecr.net Date: 23 Mar 1998 11:15:58 EDT   PI>Dear Listers   PI>Anyone familiar with the hymn tune "Kedron", set by Wilbur Held in his PI>set of folk hymns for organ?   PI>What I'd like to know is the most common text set to this tune.       As a former student of Dr. Helds', I would venture to "suggest" that Wilbur took the text from the 1940 book "The Hymnal" from the Episcopal Church, since he was Organist/Choir Master at Trinity Church in Columbus, Ohio at the time of publication. This is my guess. I will drop him a note and ask him . For the enlightenment of all Dr. Held is now in a retirement home in Claremont, California: those who are interested can contact him at the following address;   Dr. Wilbur Held % Claremont Manor 650 West Harrison Avenue Claremont, CA. 91711   ===============================================================   Fred Lewis Organist/Assist. Choral & Handbell Director Saint John's Lutheran Church New Washington, Ohio 44854   Home Address: 61 Zent Avenue Fredericktown, Ohio 43019-1031   Home Phone & Fax ( it switches ) 1-740-694-0046   E-mail:fred@www.ecr.net   ===============================================================  
(back) Subject: Hymn tune: Kedron From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:50:38 -0500   The text to "Kedron" used in the Episcopal Hymnal 1982 is "Sunset to Sunrise changes now", a Holy Week Hymn which we will be doing at the Easter Vigil. Text is by Clement of Alexandria paraphrased by Howard Chandler Robbins. This harmonization is by Alec Wyton. (pg. 163) A Southern harmony redition is on Pg. 10 with the words "New Every Morning is the love", with an alternate tune of Melcombe. Text is by John Keble.  
(back) Subject: *#Notification of Gober Organs Inc. URL Change of Address From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:50:41 -0500   Mr. Dyk,, I received the Gober Organ Co. package in the mail, let me thank you very much, the organ pics. are very beautiful, and I especially like the idea of the one with the case over the door and the console at the side, ingenious! We are planning to begin restoration of the St. Joseph Church Casavant in June, the person who maintains the organ, assisted by the reed voicer will do the work, which is mostly releathering pouches, console work, and reed work. This was just decided on Friday last, so I can now let you know that. Our organ benefit concerts will continue, and we hope the major restration work will be complete by the Region I AGO Convention in June of 1999 when the convocation service will be held there. Thank you again for your interest. Judy Ollikkala, Music Commission  
(back) Subject: Re: Hymn tune: Kedron From: Stanley E Yoder <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:05:13 -0500 (EST)   LBW (Luth. Bk. of Wor., 1978) has Kedron at #420, in the section "Society", for Albert Bayly's hymn, "Lord, save your world". Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: Practice From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:07:42 -0500   Bruce, was your "premartial musings" premeditated?  
(back) Subject: Hymn Tune From: "karencl@worldnet.att.net" <karencl@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:04:43 -0800   "Kedron" in the Methodist Hymnal has the text, "Creating God, Your Fingers Trace" - words by Jeffery Rowthorn, 1974. The music is "attributed to Elkanah Kelsay Dare, 1799."  
(back) Subject: Concert In Chicago Area From: Devon 3000 <Devon3000@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:01:58 EST   Devon Hollingsworth and the Chicago Classic Brass perform at Christ Church of Oak Brook, 31st Street and York Road, Oak Brook, Illinois, this Friday, March 27, 8:00 p.m. Tickets are $10 each, $5 for students.   Austin 4/80 with MIDI. The sanctuary has a new wood flooring in the front, which will make this concert particularly enjoyable.   Music will include a three-movement piece, Fantasy on "Come, Holy Ghost, God and Lord" by Jan Bender, as well as the complete "Concerto No. 1" by Rheinberger, arranged for organ and brass. This is a 20th anniversary celebration of the Austin Organ at Christ Church.   I hope to see some of you there!   Devon Hollingsworth  
(back) Subject: Musical Heritage Society Phone no From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:50:35 -0500   Does anyone have a telephone number for the Musical Heritage Society??   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: Name that Hymn From: ManderUSA <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:09:48 EST   In a message dated 98-03-23 09:06:25 EST, Ron writes:   << Am sure this is an easy one, but I caught just a bit of a public radio program yesterday. Here are the bits: host Richard ?, program Heart and Song? maybe, seemed to be organ and choral. English ? Anyway, what is the Theme piece or hymn (I am assuming it was a theme for the program, if not, then my question is impossible to answer of course.) Oh, I think it originated from New York too. tks Ron >>   I can't tell you what the hymn is, as we don't get the program in the New York City area, and I have never heard it. But I do know the man - he's Richard Gladwell, and the show originates in Rochester, New York, and is fairly widely syndicated. It's called With Heart and Voice, I believe. I am sure someone will come up with the name of the hymn.   Richard was, for several years, representing the English organbuilder Nigel Church in this country, until Nigel decided to give up the business. There is a small Nigel Church instrument at Christ Church in Rochester, and another in an Episcopal church in Geneva New York. The name of the church escapes me, but the building is a very fine work of Richard Upjohn.   Please drop in on our Website, if you are interested in some new material about our instrument presently a-building at St. Agnes R.C. Church on E. 43rd Street in Manhattan. There are photographs of the casework going up, our handsome crew, the console, and a fine picture of the east end of this brand new, beautiful "pre-Vatican II Romanesque" building! Final action adjustments are being completed now, and tonal finishing by John Mander and Head Voicer, Michael Blighton, will begin this week.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler N. P. Mander, Ltd. - U. S. A. http://www.mander-organs.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Name that Hymn From: j nathan <jnatpat@sunsix.infi.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:45:23 -0600   ManderUSA wrote: > > In a message dated 98-03-23 09:06:25 EST, Ron writes: > > << Am sure this is an easy one, but I caught just a bit of a public radio > program   Hi... Theme to the show "With Heart and Voice" is the D. Johnson Trumpet tune in D. Easily learned, and has become a favorite of brides In my church. Good Luck!   J Nathan Patton St Peters of the Lakes Episcopal Benton, Ky  
(back) Subject: Re: Musical Heritage Society Phone no From: Jack R Hooton <jhooton@darientel.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:26:21   At 01:50 PM 3/23/98 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone have a telephone number for the Musical Heritage Society??   Address is: 1710 Highway 35 Oakhurst, NJ 07755   No telephone number given.     --- Jack R Hooton St Simons Island, GA mailto:jhooton@darientel.net mailto:72613.3620@compuserve.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Name that Hymn From: Ronnymn <Ronnymn@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:57:50 EST   thanks, will run out and try to find it..Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: Introduction From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:33:08 -0600   MW ORGLBAU wrote:   >At this point other, more important items (such as re- > leathering the expression motor) need to be done first. One can hope that one > day it will be done.   Our 2/19 Wicks has three large tremulants: one for all reeds on 4", and two others for the rest of the 2" flues (in the swell...no great tremulants here). Due to their size and the fact we have the largest tremulant/organ ratio in the area, they would sound pretty good, right? Well, we wouldn't know because the main organist dislikes the tremelo effect, and tells the church not to have them fixed, for fear of me publicly "discracing" our little organ by turning it on during the Sunday night service.   But, the new tech. is a personal friend of mine, and he is planning to fix it anyway (hee, hee, hee).   Anyway,   Kevin C. mailto:kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: IV Lent, Westbury NY (x-post) From: mewzishn@spec.net Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:25:44 +0000   22 March 1998 Church of the Advent, Westbury, New York The Rev'd Jeffrey H. Krantz, rector Kenneth L. Sybesma, choirmaster and organist Mid-Lent, aka Refreshment Sunday   Voluntary at the Gathering: Three Chorale Preludes, Johann Sebastian Bach (Kyrie, Gott Vater; Christe, aller Welt Trost; Kyrie, Heiliger Geist) Hymn at the Entrance Procession: 575 Vater unser im Himmelreich Kyrie S-96, Schubert/Proulx Psalm 34, Anglican chant (Robert Knox Kennedy) Hymn at the Gospel Procession: 656 Franconia Anthem at the Presentation: “Jesu, Joy of Man’s Desiring” Bach Hymn at the Preparation: 145 Quittez, Pasteurs Preface Dialogue S-120, plainsong Sanctus S-130, Schubert/Proulx The Lord's Prayer S-119, Plainsong Fraction Anthem S-164, Schubert/Proulx Anthem at the Communion: “Deus noster refugium” (Psalm 46) William Croft Voluntary at the Communion: “Meine Seele erhebet den Herrn” Bach (Schuebler) Hymn after the Communion: 554 Simple Gifts Hymn at the Retiring Procession: 690 Cwm Rhondda Voluntary after the Dismissal and during the Anointing: The Eight Preludes and Fugues, attributed to Bach*   *It is parish custom to offer the Sacrament of Anointing with laying on of hands after the liturgy, during which all of the eight "littles" were played, in addition to a significant amount of improvisation until the rite concluded.        
(back) Subject: Re: Introduction From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:53:06 -0800   At 17:33 3/23/98 -0600, Kevin Cartwright wrote: >Well, we wouldn't know because the main organist dislikes the tremelo >effect, and tells the church not to have them fixed,     I can't believe that someone would be so insecure that he would allow something to sit, unrepaired. If he doesn't like it, he needn't use it, but why should he deprive others of the pleasure? A tremulant, properly adjusted (note that it should NOT sound like a theatre organ, no matter how much we may like them) can be a great asset, provided, of course, that it is not overdone, and is turned OFF during hymns.     Regards,   Bob