PipeChat Digest #314 - Tuesday, March 31, 1998
 
Re: theatreorgans.com  x-posted
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: WAX!!!
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
RE: Little Easters during Lent (was "Wedding funny")
  by "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com>
xpost pix uploaded/theatreorgans back up
  by "Jonathan M Orwig" <giwro@juno.com>
RE: Little Easters during Lent (was "Wedding funny")
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: V Lent in Westbury, NY (x-post)
  by "Jonathan M Orwig" <giwro@juno.com>
SC Public Radio 3-30-98
  by "Stephen F P Karr" <karrlist@scescape.net>
Reeds during lent
  by "Charles Krug" <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net>
Re: Stop names
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
IT'S SPRING!!!
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Free Pipe Organ!
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Free Pipe Organ!
  by "ComposerTX" <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Re: WAX!!!
  by "Shirley" <pnst@itw.com>
Technics FA1 Purchase
  by "John Balboni" <JohnB@GCQ.net>
RE: Technics FA1 Purchase
  by "list" <list@cluff.net>
Re: WAX!!!
  by <Fred@ecr.net>
Console robes
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: WAX!!!
  by <mewzishn@spec.net>
Choir Robes
  by "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com>
Re: Choir Robes
  by <mewzishn@spec.net>
Re: Choir Robes
  by "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com>
Re: Choir Robes
  by <mewzishn@spec.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: theatreorgans.com x-posted From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:33:01 -0600   IDavid Scribner wrote: > > Kevin > > It is NOT WWW.theatreorgans.com The correct URL is http://theatreorgans.com > > There are web sites around that do not use the www as part of their address. > > Jerrell seems to have problems with the site from time to time and I would > guess that it will be back up in a few days as has happened in the past. > > David   It must go either way. I use http://www.theatreorgans.com every time, and I haven't had any trouble. We have had some local connection problems, and I haven't been able to check the page within the last two days. I have to get on at 4:00 a.m. (CST) to even get my e-mail. I think there is too many people on the internet in my little town. This is the last unrelated message I plan to type in a while...   Kevin C. mailto:kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: Re: WAX!!! From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:45:28 -0600   Dr. Peter G. Pocock wrote: > > Hi eveyone, > > Well! It finally happened to me this morning. After the unaccompanied > Introit, I slid onto the organ bench in a great hurry to start the first > hymn--not realizing that some well meaning person had dilligently waxed the > bench on Friday--and slid right off the other side, taking organ books etc. > with me. No injuries, wounded pride, and a lot of muffled laughter from > the Choir :):):):) > > Have a great Sunday, > > Pete! > > > Peter G. Pocock, D.M.A. > WWW: http://www.netcom.com/~pgpocock/ > E-mail: mailto:pgpocock@ix.netcom.com   I go before church every Sunday for about two or three hours and practice/have fun. I ALWAYS wash my hands before I play the organ...however, the main organist doesn't. After playing for about an hour yesterday (Sunday, 3/29), I felt this horrible sticky feeling on my fingers. I only wish some "well-meaning person" would clean our entire console...I might even have to do it myself.   This was after I looked up and saw one of the smaller Octave 4' pipes on the great go up about ½", and then bent at a 45° angle that morning before church. I had to go in the organ, get the ladder, get the pipe, fix it (about 20 minute's worth of work), replace it, replace the ladder, and close the organ. I looked back and saw the sanctuary ¼ full, and everyone was (seemingly) looking at me. But, I hope they are glad, because I am sort of their interim service technician as we wait for things to process for the new one.   Anyway...life continues->   Kevin C. mailto:kevin1@alaweb.com  
(back) Subject: RE: Little Easters during Lent (was "Wedding funny") From: "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:42:01 -0800   Speaking of using fanfare trumpets (reeds) during Lent, I'm reminded that each Sunday, regardless of the season, is suppose to be a little Easter--a celebration of the resurrection of Christ.   This was particularly made clear to me yesterday when our pastor chose the bombastic "Praise To The Lord, The Almighty" (LW 444) and the triumphant "Lift High The Cross" (LW 311). Man, did the congregation SING yesterday! I couldn't hold back. I used the trumpets on the manuals and pedal, the threw in the 32' contre violine, and I even turned up the volume (I have a Rodgers) louder than usual for congregational singing. I only wish I had a zimbelstern. The pastor remarked how he wished everyone could be up in front hearing how well the singing was.   It brings to the forefront the reason the Christian church celebrates every Sunday. We do have some great hymns, don't we?  
(back) Subject: xpost pix uploaded/theatreorgans back up From: giwro@juno.com (Jonathan M Orwig) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:26:55 -0800   The pictures of the Claremont Glatter-G"otz I made available to the lists are now uploaded to:   http://www.theatreorgans.com/giwro   if you wish to take a look, but didn't care to have them sent to you!   And yes... theatreorgans.com is back on line this AM!   **************** Jonathan Orwig Minister of Music - Bethany Church, Redlands, CA for new Organ, Keyboard & Choral Music visit Evensong Music at: http://members.aol.com/Evnsong/pgone.html   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: RE: Little Easters during Lent (was "Wedding funny") From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:18:20 -0500   Richard Wildhirt said, >The pastor remarked that he wished everyone >could be up front so they could hear how good >the singing was.   I believe you have inadvertenly stumbled upon something useful to share with people who complain that the congregation does not sing. I hear this alot. Even though we have about 3 seconds reverberation and ceramic tile floors, nice volume and wood ceilings, the congregation stands on thin, hard commercial carpet. They are not able to hear the people around them singing unfortunately. I really love the gentle way these people sing; I wish everyone could hear what I do each week.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o cremona84000@webtv.net  
(back) Subject: Re: V Lent in Westbury, NY (x-post) From: giwro@juno.com (Jonathan M Orwig) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:13:08 -0800   Ken,   Aren't those Demessieux C.P.'s a hoot? I only wish she had not died so young - I like nearly everything of hers I have heard (both her performances AND her compositions). Too bad. Not many folks around writing good tonal music these days!   I've thought the Veni Creator toccata from this set would make a nice litle encore for a recital....   Have you ever heard her Poeme for Organ & Orch? - very "Debussyesque"   Cheers,   **************** Jonathan Orwig Minister of Music - Bethany Church, Redlands, CA for new Organ, Keyboard & Choral Music visit Evensong Music at: http://members.aol.com/Evnsong/pgone.html   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: SC Public Radio 3-30-98 From: Stephen F P Karr <karrlist@scescape.net> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:20:49 -0500 (EST)   Hi, listers-   Just a quick note to let anyone in the broadcast distance of South Carolina Public Radio know that tonight on Carolina Concerts the Jongen Symphonie Concertante will be broadcast. It's a bit later in the program, which right now is playing the Schubert Symphony 9 in C. I didn't catch the name of the organist, but it's the Charleston Symphony in the Gaillard Auditorium. I'm also curious, to any of you Charlestonites, what did they import for this concert (Feb. 21 of this year)? I know Gaillard hasn't any pipes.   -Stephen    
(back) Subject: Reeds during lent From: "Charles Krug" <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:22:25 -0500   Well actually, the 40 day fasting of Lent doesn't include Sundays, AFAIK. The ministers solemnity is his/her choice, not a requirement.    
(back) Subject: Re: Stop names From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:03:08 -0500     >Positif >8' Gedackt >8' Soli coral (*) >4' Principal >4' Rohr Flute >4' Selnat (*) >2 2/3' Nazard >2' Piccolo >Tremolo     I'll look then up in several of my stopnames-registrations-etc... books. I'll probably be back later this week. I'm kind of tied up at the moment. (With NYSSMA (New York Something Something Musical Association) and Easter and Holy Week. Later Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: IT'S SPRING!!! From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:12:31 -0500   I was awaken the past Friday (which I had off of school) with the first sound of BIRDS. After having snow and an Ice Storm for the past 6 months, It was finally good to hear the birds singing and and grass being green.   Saturday, The best day yet, I went down to the church and played and arrangement of "Mornign Has Broken" with a new light to the stops. (they sounded different that day.)   Well, I'd better go. I thought I'd spread some good cheer with others that weren't having such a goood day as me!   Toodals!   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: Free Pipe Organ! From: bombarde8@juno.com (Jason D. Comet) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:07:42 -0500   >Available immediately, FREE, as is where is, a 2m 16 rank Austin, good >condition. Must be removed no later than the week after Easter 1998. >Dismantling, packing, and moving services must be provided by or >approved >by the Organ Clearing House, P.O. Box 104, Harrisville, N.H. 03450 >tel 603/827-3055 FAX 603/827-3750 > REALLY!!!!!! Is it still for ................(SALE)???.....???....(GIVEAWAY)????....??? Whatever!   If it is, please e-mail me the stoplist ASAP along with the other details like what size room it is housed in presently, what year it is, etc..... You know, technical stufffffffffff.   Thanks alot.   I also appoligize for being days late with replying. I'm kind of tied up at the moment.   Thanks again Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ | \ O   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: Free Pipe Organ! From: ComposerTX <ComposerTX@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:29:31 EST   did you ever send out the specs for the free Austin? thanks Danny Ray ComposerTX@AOL.com  
(back) Subject: Re: WAX!!! From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:47:23   At 04:45 03/30/98 -0600, you wrote: >Dr. Peter G. Pocock wrote: >> >> Hi eveyone, >> >> Well! It finally happened to me this morning. After the unaccompanied >> Introit, I slid onto the organ bench in a great hurry to start the first >> hymn--not realizing that some well meaning person had dilligently waxed the >> bench on Friday--and slid right off the other side, taking organ books etc. >> with me. No injuries, wounded pride, and a lot of muffled laughter from >> the Choir :):):):)     <<giggle>> Well, at least they didn't wax the pedals and keyboards! Used to play an Allen for a whole lotta years.... plastic keys. There is NOTHING worse than waxed plastic keys.... unless you're playing ivory keys while sweating....   Oh, and Kevin? It's a good thing they have you on Sunday mornings to fix stuff! A few weekends ago, I practiced for 4 hours on a Saturday (ok, so I tend to cram). Organ was fine. Got in an hour and a half before the first service on Sunday morning. Organ was fine. Went downstairs to accompany the choir rehearsal. Came back up, rang the bell (by switch), sat down to the organ, prayed as I always do, calmed down, and hit the piston for the Prelude. BLAAAAAAAAAAT! A pedal cypher. Groan..... played the prelude on the piano, and the rest of the service on manuals with hand registration. After the service, someone from the congregation came up to help me take the pedalboard out and rearrange the contacts on low A. Second service went flawlessly.   That's what I get, I suppose, for standing on the pedals. (Well, I *have* to to rearrange the $*%@ choir robe so it's not around my legs!)   Speaking of which, how many of you who are visible from the congregation use a choir robe?   --Shirley      
(back) Subject: Technics FA1 Purchase From: JohnB@GCQ.net (John Balboni) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:24:05 -0500   I have an opportunity to purchase a 3-year old Technics FA1. One owner, like-new condition. The owner wants to upgrade to the newer SX-F100. I played the FA1 yesterday and had previously tried the F100 about 2 months ago. Features seem identical. Major differences appear to be the new cabinet design of the F100, which includes a ducted, ported bass enclosure. The bass on the F100 is very strong, but the FA1 is no slouch. If I want more bass, I can plug in my Velodyne sub. I am told that the sound samples, CPU and digital reproduction system is identical between the FA1 and F100. Unfortunately, without both organs side-by-side, it is hard to go by memory!   Here is my question: The owner paid the dealer $21,500 3 years ago. What would be a fair sell price? It has been 10 years since my last "new" purchase. How do the higher-end electronic instruments depreciate in value with time? I will need to make my decision final by end of week.   Thanks!   John    
(back) Subject: RE: Technics FA1 Purchase From: "list" <list@cluff.net> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:44:21 -0700   The markup on Technics and similar products is 3-5 times the dealer cost (in my experience) and represent such an inflated price that it only pays for the owner to "trade-up" (this is what a Technics dealer in AZ told me). As to what it is worth, I believe someone the list might have a "wholesale" book or check with a pawn shop as they have similar books. Bottomline, what is it worth to you.   ********************************************************************* See http://www.cluff.net for used organ parts, organs, MIDI, Organ digital sound modules, and HAM radio, electronic parts.       I have an opportunity to purchase a 3-year old Technics FA1.    
(back) Subject: Re: WAX!!! From: Fred@ecr.net Date: 30 Mar 1998 23:44:08 EDT     PI>Speaking of which, how many of you who are visible from the congregation PI>use a choir robe?   PI> --Shirley           I wear a robe only on "Special" Sundays. I'm only visible to the congregation from my shoulder blades up. That is until I get the console moved out into the congregation for better balance of the organ with the choir for anthems and the congregation during the singing of hymns.   ===============================================================   (Dr.) Fred Lewis Organist/Assist. Choral & Handbell Director Saint John's Lutheran Church New Washington, Ohio 44854   Home Address: 61 Zent Avenue Fredericktown, Ohio 43019-1031   Home Phone & Fax ( it switches ) 1-740-694-0046   E-mail:fred@www.ecr.net   ===============================================================  
(back) Subject: Console robes From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:11:41 -0500   I wear a robe, try to find a short one, am sideways at the console to the left of the congregation, and still hitch it up behind me before I sit on the bench. Can't stand it around my legs when playing.  
(back) Subject: Re: WAX!!! From: mewzishn@spec.net Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:19:26 +0000   Shirley wrote:   > Speaking of which, how many of you who are visible from the congregation > use a choir robe?   I'm rarely visible to most, if any, of the congregation (Advent, Westbury, has a wooden alcove built to accomodate the large E.M. Skinner and Son console from the 1940s; there are photographs of an earlier instrument, but distance and photographic quality (actually, the lack of same) prevents any real idea of its size. The alcove is clearly absent in this photograph, though.   That said, I wear a vestment. I do so not so much as a costume to hide street clothes (although I do get away with schlepping around in more casual clothes this way), but rather as a ritual symbol of carrying out specific responsibilities. Which is why I think a choir up in a gallery should be vested, as much as any other liturgical choir.   Ken Sybesma        
(back) Subject: Choir Robes From: "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:27:27 -0500   Shirley,   >Speaking of which, how many of you who are visible from the congregation >use a choir robe?   I haven't worn a choir robe in eight years, despite being visible for seven months. One advantage to wearing "the robe", other than blending in with the choir, is, you can dress in shorts and a T-shirt and no one can tell. Since I have to dress appropriately for the three other Sunday services, I choose to not wear the the robe. Catholics seem to accept this as normal.   One advantage to not wearing "the robe" is that I feel less conspicuous if I leave during the sermon.   Best, Kurt Kehler          
(back) Subject: Re: Choir Robes From: mewzishn@spec.net Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:59:15 +0000   Kurt Kehler wrote:   > I haven't worn a choir robe in eight years, despite being visible for seven > months.   You're invisible the rest of the time?   > One advantage to wearing "the robe", other than blending in with the > choir, is, you can dress in shorts and a T-shirt and no one can tell. Since > I have to dress appropriately for the three other Sunday services, I choose > to not wear the the robe. Catholics seem to accept this as normal.   What, that you wear t-shirt and shorts for the non-robed liturgies? I long ago gave up with regard to choices of attire made by some who attend Roman Catholic masses. The variety of t-shirt slogans that are truly tasteless even from a distance is mind boggling, not to mention the "hole-y" jeans that are considered entirely appropriate.   Ken Sybesma        
(back) Subject: Re: Choir Robes From: "Kurt Kehler" <kmkehler@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:45:15 -0500   Ken,   >Kurt Kehler wrote: >> I haven't worn a choir robe in eight years, despite being visible for seven >> months. > >You're invisible the rest of the time?   No, not since the mother ship returned me to earth. :-) Seven months ago I began working for a different catholic church. The catholic church I left had its organ in a balcony and I "felt" invisible. The new church has its organ in the front. My apologies for not being more explicit in my first post.     >> One advantage to wearing "the robe", other than blending in with the >> choir, is, you can dress in shorts and a T-shirt and no one can tell. Since >> I have to dress appropriately for the three other Sunday services, I choose >> to not wear the the robe. Catholics seem to accept this as normal.   >What, that you wear t-shirt and shorts for the non-robed liturgies? I long ago >gave up with regard to choices of attire made by some who attend Roman Catholic >masses. The variety of t-shirt slogans that are truly tasteless even from a >distance is mind boggling, not to mention the "hole-y" jeans that are >considered entirely appropriate. >   Appropriate attire for a male organist who doesn't wear a choir robe is suit and tie. My reference to wearing "shorts and a T-shirt" was meant in the spirit of, if you overslept and were in a hurry, one could always don "the robe". :-) When I wrote, "Catholics seem to accept this as normal", I meant, catholics do not seem to mind that I wear a suit and tie instead of a "robe"   I share your disdain of the attire that some catholics choose to wear. During a penance service Friday, I observed a young man wearing a Pink Floyd T-shirt. I find it difficult to harmonize the image projected by a Pink Floyd slogan with the Sacrament of Reconciliation.   Kurt Kehler          
(back) Subject: Re: Choir Robes From: mewzishn@spec.net Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 04:16:04 +0000   Kurt Kehler wrote:   > ...catholics do not seem to mind that I wear a suit and tie instead of a > "robe"   I know, my tongue was firmly in cheek. Apparently I failed to hit the tongue-in-check button when sending that message. I prefer comfortable slacks, shirt, tie and blazer if it's not too hot.   > During a penance service Friday, I observed a young man wearing a Pink Floyd > T-shirt. I find it difficult to harmonize the image projected by a Pink > Floyd slogan with the Sacrament of Reconciliation.   I've seen t-shirts with so-called 'satanic' symbols and skull-and-crossbones designs, among others, and even a few that bordered on genuine vulgarity, although none yet with any of the "seven dirty words." Well, there was the Meatloaf t-shirt that had "bat out of hell" on it.....   Speaking of "bat out of hell," how are the nuns like where you're from?   Ken Sybesma