PipeChat Digest #356 - Monday, May 4, 1998
 
Re: LP WANTED
  by "Terry Charles" <tcorgan@ibm.net>
Re: HELP!!!!!
  by "Vincent" <vlefevere@unicall.be>
What will happen to the Kimball Organ?
  by "W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net>
HELP.  darn, darn, darn
  by "KZimme7737" <KZimme7737@aol.com>
Re: HELP!!!!!
  by "Thomas Haubrich" <haubt000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>
Re: LP WANTED
  by <Fred@ecr.net>
Lew Williams WOWS Pittsburgh
  by "ScottFop" <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Blowers/parts for sale
  by "Bob Branch" <bbranch@netacc.net>
Re: Blowers/parts for sale
  by "Bob Branch" <bbranch@netacc.net>
Famous Birthdays
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Re: Music for two organs, four hands, four feet?
  by "RMaryman" <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Music for two organs, four hands, four feet?
  by "Kevin M. Simons" <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu>
RECITAL RESULTS
  by <JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu>
Re: RECITAL RESULTS
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: RECITAL RESULTS
  by "OrganNYC" <OrganNYC@aol.com>
xpostWeekend organ fun rated "R" (for romantic)
  by "Jonathan M Orwig" <giwro@juno.com>
Re: RECITAL RESULTS
  by "Peggy C. Bie" <peggyb@gate.net>
The Silence of the Typing Hands.
  by "Satbcantor" <Satbcantor@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: LP WANTED From: "Terry Charles" <tcorgan@ibm.net> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 10:45:14 -0400   Hi Ian,   "IF" you would like a cassette - I could copy the disc for you...   I've come to realize - NEVER sell a GW record. the offers are amazing...folks I know in Britain have offered a 'bundle" for my collection which dates to school days in the 50's...   ATB<   Terry    
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!!!!! From: "Vincent" <vlefevere@unicall.be> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 19:12:50 +0200       ---------- > Van: Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com> > Aan: pipechat@pipechat.org > Onderwerp: HELP!!!!! > Datum: zaterdag 2 mei 1998 23:15 >=20 > I was doing the yearlyspring cleaning on our (me and the church's) 1920 > C.E. Morey Organ at Bethany UM and I had to check the oil, while I was > doing that, I noticed a package that I have never seen before. So, > curious, I took it out and read it. Well, tried to read it anyways.=20 > It's in German. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Zum Befestigen des Verbindungsst(2)ckes an den Ventilator sind am Rahme= n > der Ausblase(3)ffnung des Ventilatorgeh(1)uses und an dem > Verbindungsst(2)ck entsprechende Bohrungen angebracht. Die hierf(2)r > erforderlichen Schrauben sind beigef(2)gt. >=20 > ALW-Nr. 930 Aug. Laukhuff   Dear Jason,   Here goes the translation: =20 "The connecting parts can be fixed to the de fan by using the drilled hol= es in the fan=20 frame (outlet side). The needed screws are delivered in the package."   Please feel free to ask further assistance if needed Vincent lef=E8vre, on behalf of the non profit assoc. "Organs in Flanders= " vlefevere@unicall.be    
(back) Subject: What will happen to the Kimball Organ? From: " W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 13:20:44 -0400     Kevin Cartwright asked what would happen to the organ. It is my hope that we can save the organ and the building as they are. But, if the organ does have to be removed I hope it will be removed with care and placed in storage and hopefully find a good home someplace.   The state of the Muncipal Organ is so strange these days! You hear good news like the progress with the Estey in Sacramento, and the Austin in San Francisco; and you hear bad news like this, and like the Moller organ in Philidelphia. (Which by the way, is still there. The building is for sale and the organ hasn't been used since the OHS convention in 1996. The building may be torn down, and they probably won't spend the money to remove the organ since it is in a hard to reach location.)   Y'all write those letters now Ya hear!   Sincerely,   Will Scarboro **************************************************** Will Scarboro, Organ Historian (In Training) Organist, Pineda Presbyterian Church, Melbourne, Florida U.S.A 1996 OHS E. Power Biggs Fellow Municipal Organ Research Project ****************************************************    
(back) Subject: HELP. darn, darn, darn From: KZimme7737 <KZimme7737@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 14:30:29 EDT   Jason and list. I have not seen a serious translation of Jason's message. I ran by my office after church to grab my German dictionary and textbook to try to translate it, and I think I have it. Upon logging on to send my translation, what should I see but Mr. Vincent LeFevre beat me to it - and his name looks French. Anyway, since I went to this much trouble, I will post my translation - which is longer and more 'round about than his.   Jason found, "Zum Befestigen des Verbindungsstuckes an den Ventilator sind am Rahmen der Ausblaseoffnung des Ventilatorgehauses und an dem Berbindungsstuck entsprechende Bohrungen angebracht. Die hierfur erforderlichen Schrauben sind beigefugt."   In German, I was taught that the verb was "always" the second element of the sentence. The participle goes at the end. So, to say "I have gone to the store with my mother several times," one would say it in German as "I have to the store with my mother several times gone." Adding prepositional phrases and gerund phrases makes figuring this out more difficult. The nice thing for the Germans is that they can change their minds half way through a sentence - and it's OK.   I'm assuming that the verb is "sind angebracht" and that it means "brought together" or something to that effect.   I took some license and rearranged the sentence to: Zum befestigen des Verbindungsstuckes an den Ventilator, entsprechende Bohrungen sind am Rahmen der Ausblaseoffnung des Ventilatorgehauses und an dem Verbindungsstuck angebracht. Die hierfur erforderlichen Schrauben sind beigefugt.   ....In order to fasten the connecting pieces on the blower, corresponding borings are on the frame of the outblowing opening of the blower-housing and on the connecting pieces brought together. The necessary screws for this are enclosed.   Sorry about the long post. I was hoping Haubt000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de would translate it since he's in Germany. I'm sending this to him anyway.   Thanks Keith Zimmerman  
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!!!!! From: "Thomas Haubrich" <haubt000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 23:21:32 +0200   >It's in German. > >Zum Befestigen des Verbindungsst(2)ckes an den Ventilator sind am Rahmen >der Ausblase(3)ffnung des Ventilatorgeh(1)uses und an dem >Verbindungsst(2)ck entsprechende Bohrungen angebracht. Die hierf(2)r >erforderlichen Schrauben sind beigef(2)gt.         Hi Folks!   Here's the translation of this:     "In order to fix the conncting piece at the ventilator, there are special drilled holes 1) on the frame of the exit opening of the ventilator and 2) on the connecting piece. The necessary scews for that are enclosed."       Keith was quite right!!!       Sorry for the syntax?! - Hope this helps!     Cheers from beyond the Atlantic   Thomas Haubrich (Mainz)          
(back) Subject: Re: LP WANTED From: Fred@ecr.net Date: 3 May 1998 17:29:42 EDT   PI>Hi Ian,   PI>"IF" you would like a cassette - I could copy PI>the disc for you...   PI>I've come to realize - NEVER sell a GW record. PI>the offers are amazing...folks I know in Britain PI>have offered a 'bundle" for my collection which PI>dates to school days in the 50's...   PI>ATB<   PI>Terry     Terry-     Would you contact me privately, would like to know the titles of ALL you GW alblums.   =============================================================== Fred Lewis Organist/Assist. Choral & Handbell Director Saint John's Lutheran Church New Washington, Ohio 44854   Home Address: 61 Zent Avenue Fredericktown, Ohio 43019-1031   Home Phone & Fax ( it switches ) 1-740-694-0046   E-mail:fred@www.ecr.net ===============================================================  
(back) Subject: Lew Williams WOWS Pittsburgh From: ScottFop <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 17:56:03 EDT   Lew played a concert for the Pittsburgh Area Theatre Organ Society last night at Keystone Oaks High School on the wonderful 3/21 Wurlitzer organ.   He played everything from "In the Mood" to "Twelfth Street Rag" to the "Kashmiri Song." I learned so much from just watching Lew, both in rehearsal and in the concert. His registrations were beautiful and I don't think there was a stop combination that he left out of forgot about. And his program was very well rounded and had something for everybody- literally! His Kamenoi Ostrow (sp?) was hauntingly beautiful and really sent a few chills up my spine.   One of the notable things I noticed was the intense concentration he exhibited while performing. Lew is indeed a consummate artist that has command of his instrument, it's repertoire and how to get the absolute most out if it down to the very last nuance. He closed with the "Ride of the Valkyries" and brought the house down. He had quite a lengthy standing ovation at the conclusion and returned to the console (to the delight of all in attendance) to play his own inimitable rendition of "Moonlight Serenade."   In a word- INCREDIBLE!!!! Bravo, Lew. I can't wait 'till the next time!   I also purchased the "Lew Collection" in cds. The three cds he offered at last nights concert are:   "Rhapsody in Blue" played on the new Mesa Organ Stop instrument, "Lew WIlliams Live at the Pasadena Civic Theatre Pipe Organ" and "At Last: Lew Williams at the Alabama Wurlitzer"   Between klast night and now I have managed to hear all three and, believe me- they are a MUST for any theatre organ enthusiast. As is the standard for Lew- the playing is imaginative, energetic, sensitive and well planned. What else can I say but that the artist, his recordings and live performance all made for a very enjoyable time. Thanks, Lew!!!   Scott Foppiano  
(back) Subject: Re: Blowers/parts for sale From: Bob Branch <bbranch@netacc.net> Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:41:49 -0400   Would you please give me some more information - Price, location, physical size Etc.   TIA   Bob   At 05:08 PM 5/2/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>Have seven hi-speed European blowers for sale (up to 3/4hp). > >a 110/120/117/125/etc........VAC Blower at approx. 1"-2 3/4" or both on >one? > > >Jason Comet >bombarde8@juno.com > |\ > | \ >O > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > ----------------------------------- Bob Branch, K2YNW, bbranch@netacc.net (Fairport, NY, USA) Computers, Ham Radio, Pipe Organs, Weaver, Dreamer [Any disclaimer I can think of applies]  
(back) Subject: Re: Blowers/parts for sale From: Bob Branch <bbranch@netacc.net> Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 19:30:59 -0400   Please excuse the previous post it was supposed to go private and I forgot to change the address :-(   Bob     At 10:41 PM 5/2/98 -0400, you wrote: >Would you please give me some more information - Price, location, physical >size Etc.   ----------------------------------- Bob Branch, K2YNW, bbranch@netacc.net (Fairport, NY, USA) Computers, Ham Radio, Pipe Organs, Weaver, Dreamer [Any disclaimer I can think of applies]  
(back) Subject: Famous Birthdays From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 20:27:20 -0400   Greetings -   And a Happy Birthday to Marcel Dupre (born 1886), and Virgil Fox (born 1912).   Bonnie Beth Derby orge@dreamscape.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Music for two organs, four hands, four feet? From: RMaryman <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 20:44:48 EDT   Shirley -   Maurice Durufle' had arranged a couple of the Handel Organ Concerto's for two organs four hands/feet, one of which He and Mme Durufle' recorded at the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception back in the late 60's or early 70's. the consoles there are a football field's length apart, so there is wuite a challenge in that venue to pull this off sucessfully. I don't know if the arrangements have bveen published.   the other piece that comes to mind is the Clarence Dinckenson arrangement for two organist of the Ride of the Valkery. There is a volume of two-organist pieces edited by the Chenaults (who perform 2 organist concerts regularly all over everywhere).   hope this helps   Rick Maryman  
(back) Subject: Re: Music for two organs, four hands, four feet? From: "Kevin M. Simons" <Kevin.M.Simons-1@ou.edu> Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 19:48:20 -0500   RMaryman wrote:   > the other piece that comes to mind is the Clarence Dinckenson arrangement for > two organist of the Ride of the Valkery. There is a volume of two-organist > pieces edited by the Chenaults (who perform 2 organist concerts regularly all > over everywhere). > > hope this helps   I can vouch that these are wonderful, particularly the "Ride of the Valkyries". It is probably not the most fulfilling music I've ever heard, but it will certainly bring the walls in! As my teacher said, "That's a piece you have to use the Ressurection Button (tutti) on!"   Kevin Simons Organist, St. Thomas More Catholic Church Norman, Oklahoma > > Rick Maryman > >  
(back) Subject: RECITAL RESULTS From: JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu Date: 3 May 1998 21:25:42 CST/CDT   Dear Pipers:   d to the manythings yet to learn(like next years study with Marianne Webb.) But theimportant thing was that not only adults attend, but also school agedkids. I found this a great accomplishment. The kids litterly lovedthe organ recital   Happy Pipings   Jonathan Kroepel Peoria, IL    
(back) Subject: Re: RECITAL RESULTS From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 23:48:09 -0400   Congratulations Jonathan. Well done!   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: RECITAL RESULTS From: OrganNYC <OrganNYC@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 00:37:32 EDT   In a message dated 5/3/98 11:18:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JEKroep@hrn.bradley.edu writes:   << I just gave my first organ recital today and I am pleased to say that I think that I did very well. Although those pesky errors sneak in, I >> Congrats, Jonathan! Great program and turnout. May you have many more musical successes!!!   Reading about your first recital brought back memories of my first organ recital. It was an AGO members' student thing, held at Grace Cathedral in Topeka, KS, on their 3man A-Skinner. I was 13-14, I think. My part of the program was to play the 3 settings of Ein feste Burg which are found in "80 Chorale Preludes" (published by Peters, ed. by H. Keller). It was a big deal for me at the time, and the big pipe organ blew me away; it even had a chamade, but I had no reason to use it on those pieces. I remember only one other person on the program, and that was Tom Brown, then a senior in high school, who played the Bach G major Concerto. He's become pretty famous now, having made several CDs of piano and organ and as resident of Litchfield, CT. I was sickened to come home for Thanksgiving during my first year in college to see the cathedral on fire; the walls remained, but the organ melted away. It now has been rebuilt and has a 4man Schantz in a nice acoustic.   I'd be interested to hear about other List Members' FIRST RECITAL experience. Come on, tell us what you played, where and on what, how old you were, etc.   Steve Lawson - NYC    
(back) Subject: xpostWeekend organ fun rated "R" (for romantic) From: giwro@juno.com (Jonathan M Orwig) Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 21:48:32 -0700   Dear listers   I had the priviledge of playing a service as a favor for a friend this weekend at one of the local 7th Day Adventist churches. They are proud owners of a 1925 Casavant (III/60-ish). I had great fun practicing on the instrument this past week - much preferable to the 25-year old Rodgers at my church...   I was amazed at the versatility of this instrument... to be sure, ir speaks with a definite romantic accent,(purists, brace yourselves - this is an R-rated description) with all 3 divisions enclosed, a 32' that is soft enough for using with quiet registrations, but still provides some extra OOOMPH when added to full organ, lots of 8' tone, celestes on CH & SW (the SW strings sizzle like frying bacon) and even a nice Glory Horn available either on the GT or CH, it is fun to build from a whisper to a ROAR! I found if one puts on all of the 8' flues, couples SW and CH to GT at 8' & 4', throws on the trems (also drawing the Vox Humana on the SW) you get real nice theatre sound....   I'll be going back soon... (BTW, I also like well-thought-out, finely voiced tracker instruments.... <grin>)   **************** Jonathan Orwig Minister of Music - Bethany Church, Redlands, CA for new Organ, Keyboard & Choral Music visit Evensong Music at: http://members.aol.com/Evnsong/pgone.html   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]    
(back) Subject: Re: RECITAL RESULTS From: "Peggy C. Bie" <peggyb@gate.net> Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 03:30:18 -0400   My First Organ Recital? Wow! That was long long ago, but I have a few scrapbooks with all my old programs. I was a junior in college at Southern Methodist University in Dallas. I had finished a pre-med program and was accepted into medical school, but my dad nixed co-signing a loan because he thought medicine was inappropriate for a girl. So I went on with chemistry, biology and math but signed up for a one semester hour class in organ. I was hooked! I remember the first hymn I learned with pedals - "O God Our Help in Ages Past". It wasn't easy, then.   The next year I asked the organ teacher at SMU (Dora Poteet Barclay, a student of Marcel Dupre) if I could be an organ major and she said yes. (She thought I had had two years of organ study, but it was only two semester hours (less than a year). She didn't find out the truth until someone mentioned it after I had played my junior recital on June 22, 1954. It was on a three manual Aeolian-Skinner organ in Perkins Chapel SMU.   "Regina Pacis" from Symphony for Organ .......Guy Weitz Pastorale .................................Cesar Franck Divertissement.............................Louis Vierne   Prelude and Fugue in G Major ................J. S. Bach Chorale Prelude: "Behold, A Rose is Blooming"....Brahms Chorale: "Our Father, Who in Heaven Art" and Variations from the Sixth Sonata .............Mendelssohn Peggy C. Bie http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/1095  
(back) Subject: The Silence of the Typing Hands. From: Satbcantor <Satbcantor@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 03:52:28 EDT   I have been lurking around this group for a while now and am still trying to work out what it is really about. Let me go back a bit.........I am a church organist here in England, I am fairly competent at tuning, but a bit heavy handed at voicing,lets face it , once you've cut up a lip, you can't put it back , and once you've burnished a reed curve, it can be a real bugger changing it for another! I imagine that just about everyone on this list is an organist, organ builder or tuner and no doubt it seemed a good idea to all of us to find a list/group talking about organs, ( although as in all lists there seem to be a few whose (who's?) only purpose is to sit in lofty superiority, blowing us mere mortals out of the water for every little slip or departure from absolute truth). Having joined the list, I was then struck by the thought that it would not be possible to put into writing the things that I wanted to talk about........ the spine-tingle of practicing on a hundred year old organ in an empty, nine hundred year old church.......how Nazard and Gedeckt make a plaintive solo on one instrument, and the most horrendous din on another......why a Harrison & Harrison 16ft reed sounds like a car crash, while a Willis reed glues people to their seats........why the sound of a Schultz diapason glides round a church like a procession of nuns, but the Binns diapason sound comes at you like an anti-tank shell. These are all subjective things, and can only be properly 'discussed' from the console. It would be possible to describe the structure, form, appearance of an organ to almost anyone.....eventually; but how on God's good earth can we have a sensible debate about say, the sheer eye- watering sweetness of a tapered, low-tin Dolce? And so, whilst we may know what someone is talking about, this is a subject of the senses and we are bound to disagree. The strongest writer will win the argument, without ever really understanding what the other was saying, being unable to hear what the other was hearing. And so what do we do? we construct imaginery organs, we talk about Hammonds (sorry,delete that), Hammonds are just about the only pipeless organ maker who build honesty into their machines. Hammonds make their own sound. Press a key on an Allen, Copeman-Hart, Makin or any of these 'switch boxes', and the sound you get is not Allen, C.H., Makin or whatever, but the sampled (read 'recorded') sound of a pipe organ. The digital 'organ' is dishonest.....an electronic triumph......but a musical fraud. I lost my email archive today, so I cannot attribute this, but someone said recently that there were a thousand people on this list, but only thirty or so contributors. I have been one of those 970 lurkers. I am passionate about the organ, I love the things, I would like to contribute something useful to this list. Can the list regulars read from the above why I and probably nine hundred others hesitate to join in? Or.......have I just typed a complete load of old fanny? Regards to all, no really, I mean it , Chris Baker- Willis (Satbcantor)