PipeChat Digest #385 - Friday, May 22, 1998
 
Re: July 4 music
  by "Gayle Woikey" <woikey@cei.net>
Re: July 4 music
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: July 4 music
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Wedding Procs/Recs
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
RE: July 4 music
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
RE: July 4 music
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: July 4 music
  by "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersv.edu>
RE: July 4 music
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
RE: July 4 music
  by "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com>
RE: July 4 music
  by "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #382 - 05/22/98
  by "Robert Horton" <r-horton@nwu.edu>
The organ of choice for a square dance. . .
  by "TonyIn219" <TonyIn219@aol.com>
RE: July 4 music .. an apology.
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: July 4 music
  by "FireAlarmz" <FireAlarmz@aol.com>
Fourth of July - GETTING OFF-TOPIC
  by "Aministrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: July 4 music
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: July 4 music
  by "Shirley" <pnst@itw.com>
RE: July 4 music
  by "Shirley" <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Wedding Procs/Recs
  by "Shirley" <pnst@itw.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #382 - 05/22/98
  by "Satbcantor" <Satbcantor@aol.com>
The Organ Web Ring
  by "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@swbell.net>
Re: July 4 music
  by "Satbcantor" <Satbcantor@aol.com>
Re: Wedding Procs/Recs
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: Gayle Woikey <woikey@cei.net> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:20:30 -0500   Hi I hope you read my comment concerning such separation. If not, let me know. I can "copy" you. Gayle Woikey   Karl E. Moyer wrote:   > Churches who observe a theological sense often called the doctrine of the > two kingdoms will thoroughly disapprove of any such music or such > patriotic songs by the congregation. It's worth a careful check with the > pastor to get a sense of the theological underpining of the church in > question. > > Lutherans and perhaps Roman Catholics might be chief among > those who maintain this two-kingdoms doctrine. Thus it is, for example, > that _Lutheran Book of Worship_ consigns "God Of Our Fathers," "My > Country, 'Tis of Thee," "God Bless Our Native Land" and the British --or > perhaps more specificlaly Canadian?--national anthem is a section at the > back of the hymnal, clearly separate from "hymns" and marked "National > Songs." The United State national anthem is not in the book at all. > > Cordially, > > Dr. Karl E. Moyer > Lancaster PA > > On Thu, 21 May 1998, Glenda wrote: > > > I'm trying to compile a list of some suitable music for July 4 service > > preludes/postludes/other. > > > > A few ideas: > > > > Stars and Stripes Forever - I know Biggs did an arrangement of this, which > > I have > > > > Star-Spangled Banner, theme and variations - I believe this is by John Bull > > (I have this also) > > > > Eugene Thayer's Fugue from the Sonata #2 - take off on "America" (have to > > buy this one); apparently he also wrote a theme and variations for "The > > Star-Spangled Banner" in this sonata also(?) > > > > Any other suggestions? > > > > Glenda Sutton > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:00:08 -0700   At 01:15 7:24 PM 5/22/98 -0400, you wrote: >No "AMENS" from me. Aren't all holidays "man made"? Thanksgiving, >Mother's Day, Father's Day, Memorial Day, even New Year's Day, Christmas >& Easter all all of our making. The USA may have its faults, maybe a lot >of faults, but it still is the BEST country in the world and I thank God >that I live in this great land and had the opportunity to serve my >country during WW2. Nothing thrills me more than hearing our National >Anthem or other patrotic music played on an organ in a church or a >concert hall.   Now THIS deserves a HUGE AMEN!! Thank You Karl!   Ron God Bless the U.S.A. .. warts and all!! :)  
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:53:14 -0400   Gayle Woikey is upset about including nationalism in our worship. We snakebellies used to be able to pray for our country, her leaders and ask God for His continued blessings upon our national state. It gave us a sense of unity of purpose and unity as citizens. Separation of church and state simply means that the state does not endorse a particular denomination. THAT'S IT! Since the church (over the objections of many of her members) has removed prayers for the nation and government, so has the state removed references and prayers to God for guidance. I believe in the vernacular that is called "pooping in your own nest."   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Procs/Recs From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:58:33 -0400   My preference for processions in weddings is to use the same piece for all of the bride's attendance and the bride, especially when using the Wagner. The entire piece is quite lovely is played colorfully. It can be gradually intensified as the "bride's entrance" draws closer and if you have a party horn, she can be blasted down the aisle. The same works for the Pachelbel Canon and the Trumpet Tune/Vols. Having a separate piece for the bride simply adds one more thing to the mix that can "go wrong." I have never had difficulty after explaining this to the bride; and the brides almost always thank me afterward for making their wedding so effort and tension free for them.   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: RE: July 4 music From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:18:51 -0700   >There are better things to play that give glory to God for our nation, >but let's not play patriotic stuff just because it's Independence Day. >It smacks of a phrase all of us church organists cringe when we here it: >"background music."   Um .. you are kidding, right? Background music indeed!! The so-called 'patriotic stuff' represents the soul of our country, IMHO. It's glorious music which celebrates the FREEDOM we ALL have (and which, by the way, was won with the BLOOD of our forebearers). Methinks we're far, far too ungrateful these days. We take our blessings far too lightly and, while I praise God for our land, I also praise and thank the legions of people who gave of themselves to preserve it! (MANY from my own family .. beginning with the Revolutionary War!)   Sorry, but this kind of thing reallllly gets to me. I'm putting on a CD of very 'patriotic stuff' just to make myself feel better! :)   Ron Yost, Paso Robles, Calif.    
(back) Subject: RE: July 4 music From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 16:05:22 -0400   >All of us organists cringe when we hear >"background music"   NOT ME! I like playing background music. When in the Methodist church as a youngster I learned to improvise and sight read playing background music (about 30 minutes) while people went to the altar for prayer at the end of the service. Even now, I do background music during baptisms and at seasonal penance services, the last one had and hour and fifteen minutes of background music. I think it accents what is going on, actually directing people's attention to what is being spoken.   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersv.edu> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 16:19:14 -0400 (EDT)     My good namesake--and he's a nice guy, too!!--asks (see below) whether all holidays are man-made. Permit this attempt at an answer.   Yes, the holidays themselves are man-made. Thus, for example, the Eastern and Western rites disagree on the date for Easter. But the thing they observe is not necessarily of human making or significance. It's this factor that separates Christmas, Easter, Pentecost, Ascension Day et al from such observances or celebrations as 4 July, Mother's Day, Labor Day, et al. The Church deals in the things of God, including their specific impact on humans; thus, man-made observances of the things of God work out quite differently from the things of man such as patriotic celebrations. It's the things of God that we celebrate in church.   Celebrating 4 July in church has an unusually peculiar problem: a celebration of America's separation from and eventual victory over England. Given that both lands worshiped and prayed to the same God who became incarnate in Jesus, how does one take such an observaznce into the life of the Church at all? Aren't we a bit presumptuous to be telling God, at least by implication, that Christians--and others, too, of course--in America had the idea and the victory right, while Christians in England had it wrong when they sought God's help? That's precisely the problem of the William Billings song "Chester" when it states that "New England's God will help against the foe..."   The issues is not whether humans created the specific festivals and established them on specific days, but rather what those festival observe and teach.   Now, Seattle Mariner's fan that I am--hey we Moyers gotta hang together, including with Mariners' starting leftie Jamie Moyer!!--I could conclude that if it's O.K. to take Mother's Day into the life of the Church, it has to be O.K. to have Baseball Day or even specifcally a Mariners' Day in church, too. Come to think of it, perhaps a little prayer might help them get back in first place. :-) (And if that would be good for them, think how it might help the Orioles!!!)   There is no evidence, of course, that American government or any sort of democracy is God's preferred governmental order. Indeed, there might be evidence of God's preference for another sort of governmental process, given that Jesus had a sort of socialist or perhaps even communistic process with his disciples.   All this being said, I repeat: Karl Keller really IS a nice guy! Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA   On Fri, 22 May 1998, KARL W KELLER wrote:   > No "AMENS" from me. Aren't all holidays "man made"? Thanksgiving, > Mother's Day, Father's Day, Memorial Day, even New Year's Day, Christmas > & Easter all all of our making. The USA may have its faults, maybe a lot > of faults, but it still is the BEST country in the world and I thank God > that I live in this great land and had the opportunity to serve my > country during WW2. Nothing thrills me more than hearing our National > Anthem or other patrotic music played on an organ in a church or a > concert hall. > > Karl > Musica est Dei donum optimi > > On Fri, 22 May 1998 09:28:06 -0500 Gayle Woikey <woikey@cei.net> writes: > Why do we have to praise America during a church service for a > man-made holiday. > > We should really be praising God and Jesus for eternal blessings. > America sends it's citizens to war, raises taxes for often unworthy > causes, such as more highways for West Virginia. If society really wants > separation of church from state, then the church ought to keep it's > worship services separate from the state. > > How many Amens do I hear out there. I love God more than I love > Caesar. > > Render to each their due. Gayle > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: RE: July 4 music From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 16:30:03 -0400   It seems that in this age of being politically correct and non-violent there are among us a number of people who think the way to settle wars is to shoot a terse note on monogrammed stationery indicating that if they do not shape up they will no longer be welcomed in our midst, and dinner invitations will no longer be forthcoming! Harrumph! But like granny said: "If you bury your head in the sand, someone's gonna come along and kick your butt!"   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: RE: July 4 music From: "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:50:21 -0700   > Um .. you are kidding, right? Background music indeed!! The > so-called > 'patriotic stuff' represents the soul of our country, IMHO. It's > glorious > music which celebrates the FREEDOM we ALL have (and which, by the way, > was won with the BLOOD of our forebearers). Methinks we're far, far > too ungrateful these days. We take our blessings far too lightly and, > while I praise God for our land, I also praise and thank the legions > of people who gave of themselves to preserve it! (MANY from my own > family .. beginning with the Revolutionary War!) > > Sorry, but this kind of thing reallllly gets to me. I'm putting on a > CD of very 'patriotic stuff' just to make myself feel better! :) > Ron, I embrace your line of thinking. The only thing I'm propagating is to keep worship's purpose focused on one Person, and use music appropriate to that end. When I choose music for worship, regardless of the occasion, I ask, "To whom (or what) does this music give glory to?" If it's not clearly God, then the music belongs in another venue.   (Pete, are we getting too close to being off topic, or is this all right? Referee call requested, please.)  
(back) Subject: RE: July 4 music From: "Wildhirt, Richard" <Richard.Wildhirt@PSS.Boeing.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:54:53 -0700   Well said, Karl. Thank you.   > Now, Seattle Mariner's fan that I am--hey we Moyers gotta hang > together, including with Mariners' starting leftie Jamie Moyer!!--I > could > conclude that if it's O.K. to take Mother's Day into the life of the > Church, it has to be O.K. to have Baseball Day or even specifcally a > Mariners' Day in church, too. Come to think of it, perhaps a little > prayer might help them get back in first place. :-) (And if that > would > be good for them, think how it might help the Orioles!!!) > Jamie is pitching tonight against Tampa Bay. Pray for a win!  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #382 - 05/22/98 From: Robert Horton <r-horton@nwu.edu> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:55:04 -0500   >From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> >Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 19:30:54 BST > I have a reasonable amount of experience in tuning, and have found >the most difficult part of the process to be laying the bearings. You're referring to the act of "setting the temperament", no? This is the most crucial part of tuning because it lays the foundation for the rest of the instrument. The only things that are more pesky than temperaments are possibly tuning high mixtures and 32' reeds.   At any rate... >Once you have set the middle C to concert > pitch, or A, depending on how you work...   >which in my experince is set in the facory and is a slidless pipe... Setting the pitch in the factory is fine, as long as you have a climate-controlled erecting room and you can guarantee that the temp. and RH will be the same as the installation site. Of course, for us mortals, it's just as well to set the first note on site.   >the problem really begins. No, the problem really started years ago when you first got involved in organs! ;-> hehehe   >It can take a whole mornings work > just to set those few pipes, depending on temperature and the > stubborness of the slides. (and the ability of the note holder). You've hit on a few problems here, and I'll try to address them in order. 1. Setting temperament is a matter of luck and experience. The first time I set a temperament, I got the first octave dead on the first try. Next time I came back to practice, I had to give up and have a drink before trying again. Practice, practice, practice...even if it does take a whole mornings work. 2. Ideally, the temperature shouldn't be much of an issue because either a.) the church or hall is climate-controlled or b.) the clergy did as you told them to and turned on the heat twelve hours before the tuning team comes in. 3. With the exception of practice organs where the pipes are right in front of you, a good rapport with your note holder is crucial. It's deadly to just grab someone off the street and try to have them hold notes (especially if they're not an organist!). OTOH, when the holder knows that I check 5th, 4th, octave, next note,...then we can work quickly and efficiently. None of the foolishness shouting back from inside the chambers "NO, BACK, BACK! NOT THAT ONE, UP!" and so on. It's easier to keep the ears focused on beats when your not screaming at the top of your lungs.   > Can anybody give me any advice on this process and correct me on any > of the points I have made. I hope this cleared some things up. I'm curious, how did you get into doing research on organ tuning?     Robert Horton, Organ Scholar, Northwestern University 825 Foster Street Evanston, IL 60201 847.424.9368 http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~rch507/index.html   "Pursue thy conquest, love; her eyes confess the flame her tongue denies." - Henry Purcell "Dido and Aeneas"  
(back) Subject: The organ of choice for a square dance. . . From: TonyIn219 <TonyIn219@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 17:25:52 EDT   In response to the poster who wanted a tape of my songs in this square dance:   I'm not real wild about dragging my Lowrey to Chicago for a couple of songs. I had to take my front door off and even the door trim to get it in. When it leaves, I'll probably help it out with a chainsaw.   I'm arranging to borrow a Technics organ console from a local music dealer in exchange for an ad in the program and a banner telling dancers where to get a digital piano or organ.   I won't even begin to describe the act. They have a troupe of female impersonators who wear crenalins and gawd awful square-dancing costumes. All their names have to have a double-entendre meaning AND begin with the letter "L."   So they have:   Leda Horstwater Lorraine O'Myparade Layonna Davenport Lucy Anna Purchase L'Amour LaMerrier Lurlene Cuisine Lucy Bowels and Lois Carmen D'Nominator   They made up a name for me, although I haven't joined their troupe. It's:   Lancelotta Boyles   I guess they didn't like "Eva Destruction."   As you can see, I always find a club whose outrageousness makes my Lowrey look normal, even mundane.   J  
(back) Subject: RE: July 4 music .. an apology. From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:46:37 -0700   Dear Richard and list,   I apologise for going off half-cocked! :) Sorry Richard .. you are correct, of course. Subject closed .. we're reallly straying, huh?? :)   Ron God Bless us *All* :) With all the terrible events of late we need Him more than ever. God Comfort the good people in Oregon too.  
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: FireAlarmz <FireAlarmz@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 17:59:46 EDT   << There is no evidence, of course, that American government or any sort of democracy is God's preferred governmental order. Indeed, there might be evidence of God's preference for another sort of governmental process, given that Jesus had a sort of socialist or perhaps even communistic process with his disciples. >>   Right on, Karl! My dad fought in WWII on the US side, while his cousins fought for Germany. I presume that they all were praying to God, not only to stay alive, but also for victory for their country.   The idea of a nationalistic Deity, or a Deity who favors any group over another, makes me *very* uncomfortable.   Peace, Bill Miller  
(back) Subject: Fourth of July - GETTING OFF-TOPIC From: Aministrator <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 17:00:30 -0500   Folks   We are really getting OFF-TOPIC here. Discussion of what music is appropriate is fine. But the discussion has gone WAY OFF.   Hope you all have a good Memorial Day Weekend.   David **************************************** David Scribner Co-Owner / Technical Administrator PipeChat   850-478-9635 david@blackiris.com  
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:06:07 -0700   At 09:28 5/22/98 -0500, you wrote: >Why do we have to praise America during a church service for a man-made >holiday.   >>SNIPPPPP>>   >If society really wants separation of church from state, >then >the church ought to keep it's worship services separate from the state. >How many Amens do I hear out there. I love God more than I love Caesar. >Render to each their due. Gayle     Yes, render to each their due! We owe the country the right to worship as we please! We may thank God AND our country for that! Honoring our country for allowing us to worship the God of our choice in the manner of our choice doesn't take ANYTHING away from God. To keep on topic, I played the July 4, 1976 worship service for a Reformed Church in America congregation, and we used many quasi-patriotic hymns, and it was a most uplifting service.   Have a good one!   Bob (the Jewish organist for Christian churches. How's THAT for religious freedom?)        
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 19:30:08   At 23:23 05/21/98 -0400, you wrote: >I am much interested on how Glenda (and maybe others) will pull off an >organ concert on July 4th just before the fireworks. The 4th is on >Saturday this year and I just can't picture an organ concert which would >attract a large audience.     Heeheehee... unless maybe it's on the Spreckels (sp?) in San Diego! :) Anybody know if Bob Plimpton is planning any such thing? Sort of like the Boston Pops outdoor concert. Now THERE's someplace I'd like to be on the Fourth!   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: RE: July 4 music From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:00:39   At 12:18 05/22/98 -0700, Ron Yost wrote:   > The so-called >'patriotic stuff' represents the soul of our country, IMHO. It's glorious >music which celebrates the FREEDOM we ALL have (and which, by the way, >was won with the BLOOD of our forebearers). Methinks we're far, far >too ungrateful these days. We take our blessings far too lightly and, >while I praise God for our land, I also praise and thank the legions >of people who gave of themselves to preserve it! (MANY from my own >family .. beginning with the Revolutionary War!) > >Sorry, but this kind of thing reallllly gets to me. I'm putting on a >CD of very 'patriotic stuff' just to make myself feel better! :)     Turn up the volume, Ron! Can't hear it on this coast yet! :)   I don't think anybody is debating the strong sense of patriotism of US citizens. We are probably the most patriotic nation in the world.   However, as with all styles of music, there is a time and a place. As Karl Moyer has noted in the thread about wedding music, does the inclusion of these pieces glorify God? Do they aid the worshippers in your congregation to see God more clearly, love Him more dearly? We get to minister to these people once a week. Is this music serving that purpose?   Sorry, Vernon, but while I loooove Stars & Stripes Forever (holds a special place in my heart.... was the first piece I played with band, and one of the first pieces played on the then newly-installed Dickinson Kimball), it's inappropriate for a worship service.   A suggestion for those who really REALLY want to play this music and have no other forum for it: Play a real short postlude. Then, change gears to being informal, wait about five minutes, and give a mini-concert. Announce this in the bulletin as well as in the morning announcements, and I'd bet nearly everyone would stick around to hear it.   If I were playing on the 4th what would I play? "America, America, God shed his grace on thee.... and crown thy good with brotherhood.... from sea to shining sea...", my prayer for this country.   Born in the USA, Shirley   PS - Subscribers to this list from other countries have been quiet on this thread. Please respond privately, but I would be very interested in your opinion. Thanks.  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Procs/Recs From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 19:37:52   At 09:21 05/22/98 -0500, you wrote:   >Two really fun pieces to use as recessionals are Mouret's "Masterpiece >Theatre" theme (I can't think of the title)   Vernon, it's "Rondeau" by Mouret. It's the one I just discovered.... playing it for a postlude on Sunday for it to get some "play time" before I have to do it for a bride in a couple of weeks.   It's a great piece. It's St. Cecilia Series, H. W. Gray.   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #382 - 05/22/98 From: Satbcantor <Satbcantor@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 21:20:19 EDT   Jen said <the most difficult part of the process to be laying the bearings.> Robert said <You're referring to the act of "setting the temperament", no?> And so we enter the terminological maze....... On this side of the pond we 'lay bearings' , and temperament is a qualification of that process. It is usual for an organ here to be tuned to 'Concert pitch' , though an instrument might be tuned to a more esoteric temperament for a particular performance of certain period music. regards, Chris  
(back) Subject: The Organ Web Ring From: Brent Johnson <bmjohns@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:22:40 -0500   To all that have or maintain web sites with organ related material: I have put together a web ring for organs, organists, organ builders, organ music, or whatever you can think of, as long as it's related to organs. If you would like to include your web site on this ring, or just want to see what it's all about, go to http://home.swbell.net/bmjohns/organ.htm for more information! It's free, and easy! Brent Johnson Wicks Organ Company Service Department http://home.swbell.net/bmjohns        
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: Satbcantor <Satbcantor@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 21:25:45 EDT   <PS - Subscribers to this list from other countries have been quiet on this thread. Please respond privately, but I would be very interested in your opinion. Thanks.> From the UK......wossa fourth of July? Did something happen to an organ? Must have missed it. Rule Brittania!  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Procs/Recs From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:07:58 -0500   Thank you, Bruce, for reminding me of the Purcell and Clark voluntaries - I haven't played them for weddings in a while. (I know that was not your REAL purpose in writing, but I did want you to know you did accomplish a concrete objective).   Regards as ever,   Glenda Sutton