PipeChat Digest #387 - Sunday, May 24, 1998
 
Re: July 4 music
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Re: July 4 music
  by "Sheridan Mascall" <sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au>
Re: July 4 music
  by "Vox Celeste" <voxceleste@mailexcite.com>
Re: July 4 music
  by "GHamil9709" <GHamil9709@aol.com>
Re: Need practice suggestions 4 bluegrass organ 16th notes
  by "Myosotis51" <Myosotis51@aol.com>
The Dreaded Hanon  + other warm-ups
  by "Shakehip" <Shakehip@aol.com>
Re: July 4 music
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: The Dreaded Hanon  + other warm-ups
  by "Beau Surratt" <beaupiano@earthlink.net>
George Wright Web Page
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net>
Re: Need practice suggestions 4 bluegrass organ 16th notes
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: The Dreaded Hanon  + other warm-ups
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: July 4 music
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: The Dreaded Hanon  + other warm-ups
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Exercises
  by "Jonathan M Orwig" <giwro@juno.com>
Re: Exercises
  by "Greg" <homza@indiana.edu>
Re: The Dreaded Hanon  + other warm-ups
  by "Stephen F P Karr" <karrlist@scescape.net>
Re: July 4 music
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: July 4 music
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Thornbird Theme
  by "Joe Elliffe" <jelliffe@li.net>
Turning Words Around
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Bruce the hypocrite- NOT!
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
JELANI EDDINGTON'S LATEST CD
  by "KARL W KELLER" <kwkeller@juno.com>
Re: Thornbird Theme
  by "Sheridan Mascall" <sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au>
Re: Bruce the hypocrite- NOT!
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Thornbird Theme
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: July 4 music
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Bruce the hypocrite- NOT!
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Theater Organ Arrangements?
  by "Musmachns" <Musmachns@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:54:51 BST           On Fri, 22 May 1998 21:25:45 EDT Satbcantor wrote:   > From: Satbcantor <Satbcantor@aol.com> > Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 21:25:45 EDT > Subject: Re: July 4 music > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > > <PS - Subscribers to this list from other countries have been quiet on this > thread. Please respond privately, but I would be very interested in your > opinion. Thanks.> > >From the UK......wossa fourth of July? Did something happen to an organ? Must > have missed it. Rule Brittania! > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >   I feel ashamed to be British (not really before I start getting the hate mail!) We are not all as ignorant. Please believe me!   Jen.   bfus7@central.sussex.ac.uk   I know you asked for private messages but I felt I had to say my bit!!      
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au (Sheridan Mascall) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 20:13:23 +1000   >>Yes, Shirley, and maybe others on the list as well. If you want to >>talk privately, the list is not the place to do it. It is rude to ask >>for private comments on a public list. I wish people would stop it. >>My pet peeve for the day! > >I was requesting opinions about how residents of the rest of the world view >US Patriotism. Bruce, maybe I missed something here... is that on topic? >Sorry if I somehow misread the guidelines for PipeChat-L...... or didn't >think them through adequately enough when I helped Pete write them. > >And rude? Nope. It was out of consideration for the people who want to >read about things organistic and NOT things patriotic that I requested >replies offlist. > >Now, as Co-Owner and Tech Admin David requested, can we please get on with it? > >Sheesh. >   Oh good grief. Don't you all know Bruce by now? It was a jooooooooke :)   > --Shirley > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: "Vox Celeste" <voxceleste@mailexcite.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 04:45:27 -0700   On Sat, 23 May 1998, sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au (Sheridan Mascall) wrote:   >Oh good grief. Don't you all know Bruce by now? It was a jooooooooke :)     Nothing new, Sheridan. Lots of people think Bruce is a joke! <heh-heh-heh>     Vox Celeste       Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com  
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: GHamil9709 <GHamil9709@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:57:28 EDT   In a message dated 5/22/98 9:29:12 PM US Eastern Standard Time, cremona84000@webtv.net writes:   << Yes, Shirley, and maybe others on the list as well. If you want to talk privately, the list is not the place to do it. It is rude to ask for private comments on a public list. I wish people would stop it. My pet peeve for the day! >>   May I ask just why you think this is true? I see absolutely nothing wrong with it myself. You may respond on the list, privately, or not at all. Gene Hamilton Indianapolis  
(back) Subject: Re: Need practice suggestions 4 bluegrass organ 16th notes From: Myosotis51 <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:35:42 EDT   In a message dated 5/22/98 11:43:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, TonyIn219@aol.com writes:   << But I WANT to be able to tear up the keyboard, like I used to do. Can anyone recommend a Bach or other classical study book that can really help me speed up my fingers? It doesn't have to be complicated, just fast -- preferably working it's way up in technical difficulty. >>   John,   I warm up with some Hanon exercises, then move on to one of Scarlatti's sonatas or Clementi's sonatinas. AAAAHHHH, the dreaded Hanon.......   Vicki  
(back) Subject: The Dreaded Hanon + other warm-ups From: Shakehip <Shakehip@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:50:47 EDT   In a message dated 5/23/1998 7:36:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Myosotis51@aol.com writes:   << AAAAHHHH, the dreaded Hanon....... >>   What's funny is, as dreaded as that book is to all keyboardists (piano and organ alike), its such a good workout ! It really helped me out. But nevertheless... dreaded.   There's a violin workout that I sometimes use (wondering if I'm the only person) - - Wohlfarht's technical studies for the violin (practised in unison) - - I sometimes use selections from Johannes Brahms Fifty-One exersices. I only use 26 of them, so I got a discount on the book. (That's a joke.)   I'm wondering if anyone else incorporates material from other instruments into their workouts...? Or has any favorite pedal exersices (I'm always soliciting this, as you can tell...)   - - Ed  
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:13:26 -0400   GHamil9709 wrote: > > In a message dated 5/22/98 9:29:12 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > cremona84000@webtv.net writes: > > << Yes, Shirley, and maybe others on the list as well. If you want to > talk privately, the list is not the place to do it. It is rude to ask > for private comments on a public list. I wish people would stop it. > My pet peeve for the day! >> > > May I ask just why you think this is true? I see absolutely nothing wrong > with it myself. You may respond on the list, privately, or not at all. > > Gene Hamilton Indianapolis   This problem will be solved with the release of Windows98 with the email choices of:   1. Respond to Sender Only 2. Respond to Entire List 3. Respond to Entire List /except Bruce   :-) Stan  
(back) Subject: Re: The Dreaded Hanon + other warm-ups From: Beau Surratt <beaupiano@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:25:56 -0500   Hi! I don't understand what is so dreaded about Hanon, it IS a great workout. Maybe you could keep it from being boring by thinking about how much it will improve your technique. Harold Gleason's Method Of Organ Playing has some GREAT pedal exercises in it, and I hear that Nilson's book of pedal exercises, available from the Organ Historical Society, is great. Joyce Jones, organist at Baylor University, also has a pedal exercise book available from the OHS. I especially like the NEW edition of the Gleason, because it has some pedal exercises based on some of Bach's great organ works. It also has scales for pedal. I would definitely be interested in some suggestions for others as to some exercises for both manuals AND pedals.     Beau Beau Surratt beaupiano@earthlink.net Organist, Bemis United Methodist Church Student, South Side High School    
(back) Subject: George Wright Web Page From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:04:34 -0500   Someone recently told me that they had visited a George Wright website, but could not remember how they found it or URL. Can anyone help?   thanks,   Jon  
(back) Subject: Re: Need practice suggestions 4 bluegrass organ 16th notes From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:38:51 -0400   For velocity I always enjoyed Czerny's studies. Some actually make pretty good postludes if you add a corresponding pedal line just to add to the confusion. I play Clementi sonatinas at weddings or organ or piano. The kids in the parish who take piano get a kick out of hearing their piano pieces played on the organ, too!   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: The Dreaded Hanon + other warm-ups From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:51:12 -0400   Ed, I use excerpts from the music that is giving me trouble for the basis of the exercise. This has been especially helpful not only in velocity, but also in transposing (by learning to think in other keys). Pedal studies that have been most helpful to me are the scales from the older Gleason Method, and playing arpeggios. I always do this king of thing on a light stop like a flute 4 coupled to the pedal. Most manual exercises are more endurable for me on light flutes, chimney flutes being my favorite.   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:55:26 -0400   Sorry Stan.   Respond to Entire List/except Bruce   is available only on RearWindows-98! ;-)   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: The Dreaded Hanon + other warm-ups From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:05:46 -0400   Beau asked about exercises for manuals and pedals. I recall that an organ method by David N Johnson had some rather nice introductory trio style exercises. Might give them a look/see!   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Exercises From: giwro@juno.com (Jonathan M Orwig) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:49:44 -0700   I like to use excerpts as exercises as well - The war-horse Widor Toccata is great for getting your left hand in shape - it demands a sure technique to do it at tempo (later on in the piece when the arpeggios switch to the LH)   If you want to continue this idea, Marcel Dupré wrote 24 Inventions for organ, which are a virtual catalogue of modern organ technique, and also suitable for service use (well, some of them, anyway..!) I have both volumes, and really should work through them someday....   If you are getting started with trios, Vol 2 of the complete works of Krebs has 17 of them - some easier than JSB, some just as hard. This volume also has some easier Preludes, Fugues, and the fine Fugue on B.A.C.H. (Edition Breitkopf 8413)   **************** Jonathan Orwig Minister of Music - Bethany Church, Redlands, CA for new Organ, Keyboard & Choral Music visit Evensong Music at: http://members.aol.com/Evnsong/pgone.html   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Exercises From: Greg <homza@indiana.edu> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:57:20 -0500 (EST)   Rumor has is that Leo Sowerby used to use JSB's 6 Suites for Solo 'Cello as pedal exercises. Mind you, some movements would work better than others, while some would be downright impossible. But hey, it's good music, and you can usually find a pretty cheap edition (or even Dover reprint) in nearly any music store.   Perhaps start with the preludes from suites 1-4. The fugal section from the prelude to the 5th suite resembles in many ways the St. Anne fugue. Stay away from the 6th suite...it was written for a violoncello piccolo (5 strings), and would be beyond the range of a 30- or 32-note pedalboard.   Best, -grh      
(back) Subject: Re: The Dreaded Hanon + other warm-ups From: Stephen F P Karr <karrlist@scescape.net> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 18:48:41 -0300 (EST)   >Beau asked about exercises for manuals and pedals. I recall that an >organ method by David N Johnson had some rather nice introductory trio >style exercises. Might give them a look/see!   Or, if you really want a workout, try the Bach Trio Sonatas (which were truly written as exercizes for W.F. Bach). I'm learning #5 right now.   -Stephen    
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:19:29 -0700   At 02:55 7:24 PM 5/23/98 -0400, you wrote: >Sorry Stan. > >Respond to Entire List/except Bruce > >is available only on RearWindows-98! ;-)   ... a component of: Microsoft Domination-00 *U.S.J.D. Approved*   :) Ron   Have a wonderful Memorial Day weekend, friends. I'm spending much of it cleaning that rank of Oboe Horns I spoke of not long ago. (Is there a cheaper/faster method of removing oooolllld shellac than using alcohol??)   See .. I CAN post organ-related stuff! ;0)    
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:35:21 -0500 (CDT)   At 02:19 PM 5/23/98 -0700, Ron Yost wrote:   >(Is there a cheaper/faster method of removing oooolllld shellac >than using alcohol??)   Not as far as I know. Notwithstanding that Pindar said "water is best", you don't want to get any of that on the zinc basses and it won't get shellac off at all. Alcohol is much the best thing. Don't drink too much of it having a great Memorial Day weekend,   Regards,   John    
(back) Subject: Thornbird Theme From: Joe Elliffe <jelliffe@li.net> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:51:02 -0400   I've had a request from a bride for the theme from Thornbirds- Can anyone help me out with the title? She said she heard it on a James Galway CD   Thanks      
(back) Subject: Turning Words Around From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 18:55:56 -0500   Robert Horton wrote: > Dear Kevin, > Take my advice as a grad student, academia is just ROLLING in crap! > Further, everyone keeps telling me that these are the best years of my life... > As an organist, you're always going to face folks who don't understand the > depth of your talent (let alone the depth of the organ). Don't get angry > at them, you'll just turn them off and make all of us look like snobs. > Take it as a chance for some outreach and try to show them more about the > instrument and your (obviously auspicious) skills. > > Sincerely, > Robert Horton, Millar Chapel Organ Scholar   Well, it seems everyone is turning my words in every direction but origional intent...so I'll waste a little bit of time explaining:   My friends and I believe and aggree that it is good to have someone to compete against, and/or someone to look up to and set their standards (to an extent) as our own goals. This is actually diferent than the old organists putting us down because we haven't been at it for years, when in fact, we can "outplay" most of them. Those who establish a little senority system ***without good reason*** are the ones I refer to as the "crap." (Meaning...those who are better than us and have been studying longer, etc, etc, etc... have a right to "look down" on people like my friends and myself.) I don't go running around calling the people who are level six (the highest level) little tergiversating brats, while I'm still in level five. But, if I "outrun" people, I have the right to say something...but I haven't said one destructive word to the "group" since I started thee years ago.   I'm probably not making any sense to you...actually not even myself. So, I'll stop while I'm still ahead.   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com      
(back) Subject: Re: Bruce the hypocrite- NOT! From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:12:05 -0500   bruce cornely wrote: > > That's one of the problems. There is not much in the south that is > "old" and redundant, and there are even fewer historic organs, unless > they have been moved in. It's much easier to get a sunlamp and play > inside!   Bruce sez it!! It must be the humidity down here. Our church (as plenty of you have probably read before) is on it's 4th organ. Anyone else have ideas??   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com    
(back) Subject: JELANI EDDINGTON'S LATEST CD From: kwkeller@juno.com (KARL W KELLER) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 20:53:04 -0400     Hi List Members,   "DISCOVERING THE UNIT ORCHESTRA" is the name chosen for Jelani's fourth, and newest, recording just released by the Dickinson Theatre Organ Society. On this CD Jelani has demonstrated the unique tonal resources of the "Unit Orchestra" and has provided a well planned variety of music to satisfy all lovers of the theatre organ.   The organ used for this recording is the world famous 3/66 Kimball TO which is installed in a 1,200 seat auditorium at the John Dickinson High School in Wilmington, Delaware. The Kimball was donated to the school 30 years ago after it was removed from it's original location in the Boyd Theatre, Philadelphia, PA . The original 19 ranks have been retained and, over the years, 47 additional ranks have been added by the very dedicated DTOS organ crew.   Jelani Eddington must be the most modest organist in the country as his name appears on the cover of the CD printed in an 8 point font. Small by any standard. The over 72 minutes of music proves that Jelani is a giant among theatre organists. His registrations throughout this recording are absolutely stunning - some of the best I have ever heard - and combined with Jelani's unwillingness to accept anything short of perfection makes his CD a true masterpiece. Jelani is to the theatre organ world what Michelangelo is to the art world.   I will not try to critique this CD further. I know what I like and I like this CD. I think you will like this recording as much as I do.   The songs recorded are as follows:   1. TROLLEY SONG - 3:39 2. STEPPING OUT WITH MY BABY - 2:13 3. HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY - 5:09 4. A CUCKOO IN THE NEST - 3:11 5. SONGS OF VINCENT YOUMANS - 12:18 Great Day Orchids in the Moonlight More Than You Know Tea for Two Hallelujah ! 6. BELLE OF THE BALL - 2:52 7. YOU AND THE NIGHT AND THE MUSIC - 5:02 8. REMEMBER ME ? - 2:31 9. SYMPHONIC SUITE FROM "PORGY & BESS" - 20:05 Introduction / Catfish Row Summertime I Got Plenty O Nuttin Bess, You Is My Woman It Ain't Necessarily So There's A Boat Dat's Leaving Soon For New York Oh, Bess, Oh Where's My Bess Oh Lawd, I'm On My Way 10. THROUGH THE EYES OF LOVE - 4:51 11. DANCE OF THE HOURS - 9:59   Seventy-two minutes & 13 seconds of GREAT theatre organ.   Those who wish to purchase this CD may do so by sending a check or money order, payable to DTOS, in the amount of $20 ( includes postage for US ) to:   DTOS MUSIC SHOP c/o Bob Noel 110 Edjil Drive Newark, DE 19713-2347   Karl Musica est Dei donum optimi   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Thornbird Theme From: sheridan.mascall@visionet.com.au (Sheridan Mascall) Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 11:28:23 +1000     -----Original Message----- From: Joe Elliffe <jelliffe@li.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Sunday, 24 May 1998 8:54 Subject: Thornbird Theme     >I've had a request from a bride for the theme from Thornbirds- Can >anyone help me out with the title? She said she heard it on a James >Galway CD > >Thanks > >   Good Lord. After all that discussion about inappropriate music ... !!! :)   Not to mention what I *thought* I read - theme from Thunderbirds ... hey now, that would work pretty well on the organ!!!     Giggling, ~S~      
(back) Subject: Re: Bruce the hypocrite- NOT! From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 20:44:04 -0500 (CDT)   At 07:12 PM 5/23/98 -0500, Kevin Cartwright wrote:   >Bruce sez it!! It must be the humidity down here. Our church (as >plenty of you have probably read before) is on it's 4th organ.   While humidity has been known to rot some European organs, lack of humidity rather than humidity has been an enemy of most North American instruments. Not *the* enemy, however, which is churches that have more money than sense. Mexico is a poor country, with a climate not too far from Florida, but Mexico has rather a lot of fine seventeenth- and eighteenth-century Spanish-built organs (see John Fesperman's book, *Organs in Mexico*.) There is no reason why Florida should not also -- except that churches have chosen to get rid of them. Your job, if Organ No. 4 is a good instrument, is to see that it doesn't get replaced by Organ No. 5, which may not be nearly as nice. If it is not a good instrument, remember than there are plenty of churches in the northeast (including Bruce's beloved Vermont, where the snow falls even in August) that *do* have good historic organs in redundant churches -- so why not import a few to the south? I believe the Organ Clearing House currently has around 300 pipe organs for disposal, and some at least of them are very nice.   John.    
(back) Subject: Re: Thornbird Theme From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 21:51:40 -0400   Sheridan Mascall wrote:   > Good Lord. After all that discussion about inappropriate music ... !!! :) > > Not to mention what I *thought* I read - theme from Thunderbirds ... hey > now, that would work pretty well on the organ!!! > > Giggling, > ~S~   Well... the reverend might secretly like the music, and Thunderbird '67 could be the wine of choice for the wedding toast.   :-) Stan  
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 22:12:24 -0400   >Is there a cheaper/faster method for removing >oooooolllllld shellac that using alcohol?   If you'll pay her air fare I know a soprano who can strip paint; with a little effort she can probably do shellac, too!   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: Bruce the hypocrite- NOT! From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 22:30:35 -0400   I just received an article from the Burlington paper which indicates that my beloved 1886 Jardine 2/12 is in jeopardy. The parish is now in a restoration fund raising campaign and the senior warden was quoted as saying the entire organ needs to be replaced at about $200,000. I checked with a friend in the parish and he said that they have a committee talking with "experts" in its regard. Sigh! Money and brains seldom ride in the same car!   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Theater Organ Arrangements? From: Musmachns <Musmachns@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 23:29:18 EDT   Just got a copy of Jelani Eddington's new recording and agree it is fantastic. I know that most talented organists are adept at making their own fine arrangements, but every so often you see credit given to an arrangement by another organist. How or where would one go about trying to aquire copies of this sort of thing? As we continue work on our 30+ rank Wurlitzer, it would be nice to get some well thought out arrangements to start working on/with. Until it's playing the old Rodgers will have to do. Anyone with suggestions?   Andy Struble The Music House Museum Traverse City, MI