PipeChat Digest #389 - Tuesday, May 26, 1998
 
Re: A Very Barton Day or Theatre Organ Lovers Field Day (Cross Posted)
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
First Morning Service (X-Posted and more)
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
First Morning Service (X-Posted and more)
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
OHS Magazine
  by <rnickel@itol.com>
Re: July 4 music
  by "Gayle Woikey" <woikey@cei.net>
Re: Fourth of July - GETTING OFF-TOPIC
  by "Gayle Woikey" <woikey@cei.net>
Re: The Dreaded Hanon  + other warm-ups
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net>
Re: July 4 music
  by "Peggy C. Bie" <peggyb@gate.net>
Brains and money
  by "Robert Horton" <r-horton@nwu.edu>
Re: OHS Magazine
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
new e-mail list ( slightly off topic)
  by "NELSON AND JANINE DENTON" <NDENTON434@BIGWAVE.CA>
Re: The Dreaded Hanon  + other warm-ups
  by "Shirley" <pnst@itw.com>
Re: The Dreaded Hanon  + other warm-ups
  by "Shakehip" <Shakehip@aol.com>
4th of July etc
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: July 4 music
  by "Roger Brown" <robrown@melbpc.org.au>
 


(back) Subject: Re: A Very Barton Day or Theatre Organ Lovers Field Day (Cross Posted) From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 21:36:31 -0500   > My organ tolerant wife asked what the correlation is between organs and > trains. This has been hashed and rehashed extensively on the lists with > no conclusions reached. I think our older daughter may have summed it > up quite simply: "They both have whistles" > > Jon C. Habermaas   I am yet another who likes organ AND trains. An organbuilder friend is also an avid member of the local tourist railway. It seems like one of those great mysteies that keep popping up every day...   Kevin Cartwright kevin1@alaweb.com      
(back) Subject: First Morning Service (X-Posted and more) From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 20:26:50 -0500   Someone told me not to stop boasting...so I won't.   Today, I am proud to announce, I completed my first full Sunday morning service as the substitute organist filling in for our main organist, as she is out on her first anniversary trip. I played well, only making two real mistakes (during hymns). So, after this, I will be able to "relax" and just play whatever I please. (i.e. "Yes, We Have No Bananas," "Young at Heart," movie themes, etc...) Maybe I'll work on a summer pops recital.   I have survived the end of school, my exchange student is in the process of moving out, I just finished "the service" which required hours of practice on my part (something big for someone who doesn't do it full-time), and got the symphonic band concert and the handbell spring pops concert out of the way. So, after the handbell choir plays out of town this Wednesday night, I'll be "FREE!!" Two weekends after that, I plan on getting my own pipe organ. So, things are looking up.   Sorry for rambling off-topic and so forth.   For now,   Kevin Cartwright Secondary Organist, First United Methodist Church Student, Greenville High School Greenville, Alabama kevin1@alaweb.com      
(back) Subject: First Morning Service (X-Posted and more) From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 20:26:50 -0500   Someone told me not to stop boasting...so I won't.   Today, I am proud to announce, I completed my first full Sunday morning service as the substitute organist filling in for our main organist, as she is out on her first anniversary trip. I played well, only making two real mistakes (during hymns). So, after this, I will be able to "relax" and just play whatever I please. (i.e. "Yes, We Have No Bananas," "Young at Heart," movie themes, etc...) Maybe I'll work on a summer pops recital.   I have survived the end of school, my exchange student is in the process of moving out, I just finished "the service" which required hours of practice on my part (something big for someone who doesn't do it full-time), and got the symphonic band concert and the handbell spring pops concert out of the way. So, after the handbell choir plays out of town this Wednesday night, I'll be "FREE!!" Two weekends after that, I plan on getting my own pipe organ. So, things are looking up.   Sorry for rambling off-topic and so forth.   For now,   Kevin Cartwright Secondary Organist, First United Methodist Church Student, Greenville High School Greenville, Alabama kevin1@alaweb.com        
(back) Subject: OHS Magazine From: rnickel@itol.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 16:32:58 -0500 (CDT)   As a new member of the OHS, I just received my first issue of The Diapason. What a fantastic production!!! I would love to play one of the Welte instruments featured toward the back of the magazine. The pic of the console in the New York living room is great.   A side note ... is there such a thing as a three-manual/pedal reed organ? I've never seen a picture of one.   Bob Nickel    
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: Gayle Woikey <woikey@cei.net> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:49:57 -0500   I too would like to hear the responses. My father-in-law liberated Buchenwald. Yet I have cousins who fought on the other side and were in Russian prison camps during world war 2. It's a tough subject with many many sides and ideas. Are we kind enough to listen? I think we are. This stuff is at the very core of how the church, with it's hundreds of denominations and ways of worship, functions and operates. Thank you. Gayle Shirley wrote:   > At 22:28 05/22/98 -0400, you wrote: > >"Subscribers from other countries have been quiet on this thread. > >Please respond privately, but I would be very interested in you > >opinion." > > > >Yes, Shirley, and maybe others on the list as well. If you want to > >talk privately, the list is not the place to do it. It is rude to ask > >for private comments on a public list. I wish people would stop it. > >My pet peeve for the day! > > I was requesting opinions about how residents of the rest of the world view > US Patriotism. Bruce, maybe I missed something here... is that on topic? > Sorry if I somehow misread the guidelines for PipeChat-L...... or didn't > think them through adequately enough when I helped Pete write them. > > And rude? Nope. It was out of consideration for the people who want to > read about things organistic and NOT things patriotic that I requested > replies offlist. > > Now, as Co-Owner and Tech Admin David requested, can we please get on with it? > > Sheesh. > > --Shirley > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Fourth of July - GETTING OFF-TOPIC From: Gayle Woikey <woikey@cei.net> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:27:10 -0500   Are we really getting off "the topic"? This gets at the essence of what we play and why.   Aministrator wrote:   > Folks > > We are really getting OFF-TOPIC here. Discussion of what music is > appropriate is fine. But the discussion has gone WAY OFF. > > Hope you all have a good Memorial Day Weekend. > > David > **************************************** > David Scribner > Co-Owner / Technical Administrator > PipeChat > > 850-478-9635 > david@blackiris.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: The Dreaded Hanon + other warm-ups From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:15:22 -0500   Shirley wrote: >   > Heh. Don't forget to do each one in all 12 keys, too. :) :) :) > > --Shirley > Shirley,   You're heartless..sure glad my music teacher is not on this list. Still I prefer Hanon to Czerny.   Jon  
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: "Peggy C. Bie" <peggyb@gate.net> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:21:46 -0400   I would definitely like to hear how those of other countries respond. If the list isn't interested, I'm horrified by the lack of interest. But please tell me what you think.   Rev. Peggy C. Bie "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." -Anais Nin http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/1095  
(back) Subject: Brains and money From: Robert Horton <r-horton@nwu.edu> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:46:19 -0500   >Subject: Re: Bruce the hypocrite- NOT! >From: WmChasBeck <WmChasBeck@aol.com> .... >Is it your opinion that only the poor have brains?   An engineer recently proved it to be a scientific fact that brains and money don't go together. Try to follow the math.   1. According to basic physics Power = Work / Time 2. Knowledge is Power 3. Time is Money 4. Substituting these into the original equation gives us Knowledge = Work / Money 5. Solving for Money gives us Money = Work / Knowledge   Therefore, Money goes to infinity as Knowledge approaches zero, regardless of any work done.   Hmmm...       Robert Horton, Northwestern University Organ Scholar 825 Foster St. Evanston, IL 60201 tel.847.424.9368 http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~rch507/index.html   "You don't have to practice all the notes... ....just the ones that you want to play well."      
(back) Subject: Re: OHS Magazine From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 20:56:54 -0400   Bob, Welcome to OHS. That is quite an impressive Welte in the Tracker (The Diapason is yet another wonderful journal). Hope you'll make it to the convention in Denver. Seems like someone mentioned a webpage recently with three manual reed organs. But, I don't recall who it was. Make some more noise, they'll show up again!   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: new e-mail list ( slightly off topic) From: NELSON AND JANINE DENTON <NDENTON434@BIGWAVE.CA> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 21:30:10 -0700   Hi all I've started a new e-mail list at. . .   http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/keyboardlinks   This list will be devoted to promoting exchanges of WEBSITE INFORMATION LINKS About all forms of "KEYBOARD MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS".   (organs pianos harpsichords clavichords Hammonds Toasters MIDI etc. Anything goes)   All are welcome to join and pass along any new websites that you may find and we will talk about how to build your own website.   This is a free service of the "Pipe Organ Tracker Project"   http://www.freeyellow.com/members/radentonson   The e-mail list is not about musical instruments per se but it is about finding other neat new websites and promoting your own website to others.   If anyone wants to start their own FREE e-mail list just go to http://onelist.com   neat stuff and a e-mail list devoted to "clavichords" already.   I'm always finding something new to see on the web. Hope i'm not boring everyone.   P.S. I'm adding more pages to my website al the time so be patient i'm working as fast as possible to add the links that everyone has sent me.   ( I only wish i Could type faster- with less typos - now you know why I'm not an organist - you should hear me play!!!!) :-(((     Nelson Denton  
(back) Subject: Re: The Dreaded Hanon + other warm-ups From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 20:35:52   At 11:15 05/25/98 -0500, you wrote:     >You're heartless..sure glad my music teacher is not on this list. >Still I prefer Hanon to Czerny.     Czerny's a little more musical, has more of a melody, but Hanon... once you have the pattern, you have it made.   Incidentally, it was Robert Elmore who had his organ students practicing each Hanon exercise in C as well as one sharp key and one flat key on the piano. I ended up choosing C# and Cb (was easier) every time, till he noticed it and said something about next time, he wanted me to pick a different set of keys.   Ah, the things we try to get away with! :)   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: Re: The Dreaded Hanon + other warm-ups From: Shakehip <Shakehip@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:21:05 EDT   In a message dated 5/25/1998 6:58:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, pnst@itw.com writes:   << Incidentally, it was Robert Elmore who had his organ students practicing each Hanon exercise in C as well as one sharp key and one flat key on the piano. I ended up choosing C# and Cb (was easier) every time, till he noticed it and said something about next time, he wanted me to pick a different set of keys. >>   If I'm not mistaken, Hanon actually expected his students to play through the entire book in one sitting, which he felt would take about an hour. I usually pick a few exersises and work my way around the circle of fifths. I hope I'm not getting away with murder.   I've rarely played through, but has anybody done the math as to what meter that requires ?   Incidently, this thread has been very helpful to me, and I thank everyone who's contributed to it, even though I'm not the one who started it... :-)   - - Ed  
(back) Subject: 4th of July etc From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:26:43 -0400   I was going through old issues of The Tracker and came upon an advertisement for "American National Holidays Suite" by Hampson A. Sisler. This is published by Laurendale Assoc, 15035 Wyandotte St, Van Nuys, CA 91405 (818) 994-6920. It is in three books with holidays including The New Year, Martin Luther King Day, Lincoln's Birthday, Washington's Birthday, Memorial Day, July 4th, Labor Day, Columbus Day, Veterans Day, Thanksgiving and (since this was published in 1990 maybe the did not know of separation of church and state) Christmas! The work was premiered in Boston in the Fall of 1990 by Eileen Hunt.   Someone may want to let Shirley know about this, since I have been banished from her e-mail box (sniff!).   I have been perusing old Tracker magazines trying to find a good picture of the Jardine "squashed top" pipe facade. If anyone had a good photo, I would appreciate a copy. Thanky!   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: July 4 music From: robrown@melbpc.org.au (Roger Brown) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 08:45:03 GMT   On Mon, 25 May 1998 19:21:46 -0400, "Peggy C. Bie" <peggyb@gate.net> wrote:   >I would definitely like to hear how those of other countries respond.   If you really must know, I would say that we should all be more concerned with creating a just, tolerant, charitable and non- violent society than with concerns as to which is the best country in the world. =20 =20   =20 Roger =20 =20   Roger Brown robrown@melbpc.org.au http://members.tripod.com/~RogerBrown