PipeChat Digest #395 - Saturday, May 30, 1998
 
Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Organists as moral leaders
  by "Ruth  Bird" <theraven@istar.ca>
Re:      Re: Organists as moral leaders[!] (was: Viagra)
  by "Ruth  Bird" <theraven@istar.ca>
Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Choir Trip to The United Kingdom
  by "Lynne Lauderdale" <llauderd@uwf.edu>
Organists as moral leaders: an anecdote
  by <Shakehip@aol.com>
Re: Orientation Fees?
  by "Robert Horton" <r-horton@nwu.edu>
Organists as moral leaders:an anecdote
  by <Shakehip@aol.com>
Re: Organists as moral leaders
  by <danbel@earthlink.net>
Re: Orientation Fees?
  by "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@swbell.net>
Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Locked consoles/limited access and the Shrine Kilgen
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Jen's wunnerful olde english organ
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Goodnight
  by "Jenny Moon" <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk>
Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access
  by <sohmer@juno.com>
Re: small organ society
  by <sohmer@juno.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 03:40:10 BST           On Fri, 29 May 1998 22:34:14 -0400 Bob Conway wrote:   > From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> > Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 22:34:14 -0400 > Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Jenny, > > Over here they often use the # for a pound sign! In Eudora there is no > pound sign, which is what I use as my mailer! > > To keep on topic, Use your 100 pounds to buy music, or CDs, or travel to > far away Cathedrals to hear, and maybe play their organ. In that way you > will be learning, if you buy music or CDs you will be helping out with the > miniscule royalties that musicians get! > > Enjoy it while you may! > Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> > > http://www.greenford.demon.co.uk/bob/ > > Classics Director > CFRC-FM 101.9 MHz > Radio Queen's University > Kingston, Ontario, K7L 3N6 > CANADA > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > Hi   Good point Bob. I still feel guilty knowing I was lying in bed while someone else did the work! I suppose Tony Blair gets away with it!! I didn't say that!!!!!!!   Nameless!!      
(back) Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 21:53:36 -0500 (CDT)   At 03:36 AM 5/30/98 BST, Jenny Moon wrote:   >If you go to http://lehuray.csi.cam.ac.uk/npor.html   Actually the URL for the National Pipe Organ Register has just changed, and it is no longer on the Cambridge University server. BIOS now has its own server, and the new address is http://www.bios.org/npor_hello.html   John.    
(back) Subject: Re: Organists as moral leaders From: "Ruth Bird" <theraven@istar.ca> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 22:57:57 -0400   Just out of curiosity..... Why would anyone want to have an education in "Religious" music, then want to play in a church... if they do not believe in that church, or religion in the first place. Why not study for an other area of music???? An area that can be approached with "heart and soul" so to speak. Would make more sense to me. You say a lot of people on this list are sanctimonious, but hey, these are after all "church organists". Of course, those who play other than in church, do not need to be Sanctified--as I call it. I am sure that we are able to separate the different musicians and where they play. If I hear an organist on a theatre organ in a hall, I certainly do not expect them to be holy and dignified. However, those are characteristics that are expected of those who play in a holy place.   Ruth          
(back) Subject: Re: Re: Organists as moral leaders[!] (was: Viagra) From: "Ruth Bird" <theraven@istar.ca> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 22:59:03 -0400   And to think Bruce, Adam also blamed Eve. HMMMMMMM   Ruth -----Original Message----- From: bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> To: PIPORG-L@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU <PIPORG-L@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU> Date: Friday, May 29, 1998 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Organists as moral leaders[!] (was: Viagra)     >The reason organists behave as they (we) do is that there is such a good >example set for us by the clergy!!!! '-0-- (that's a sticking tongue >out icon ;-) ) > >bruce o h s __________ a g o >cornely o o __________ o o > ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ........... > >:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: >Note: opinions expressed on PIPORG-L are those of the individual con- >tributors and not necessarily those of the list owners nor of the Uni- >versity at Albany. >:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 03:57:17 BST           On Fri, 29 May 1998 21:53:36 -0500 (CDT) John L. Speller wrote:   > From: John L. Speller <jlspeller@stlnet.com> > Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 21:53:36 -0500 (CDT) > Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > At 03:36 AM 5/30/98 BST, Jenny Moon wrote: > > >If you go to http://lehuray.csi.cam.ac.uk/npor.html > > Actually the URL for the National Pipe Organ Register has just changed, and > it is no longer on the Cambridge University server. BIOS now has its own > server, and the new address is http://www.bios.org/npor_hello.html > > John. > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     Thanks for that John, I didn't realise it had changed. I'll make a note of that.   Jen      
(back) Subject: Choir Trip to The United Kingdom From: Lynne Lauderdale <llauderd@uwf.edu> (by way of llauderd@uwf.edu (Lynne Lauderdale)) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 22:04:24 -0500   Dear Friends, Our Sanctuary Choir and Orchestra will be travelling to The United Kingdom July21-August 1. Our intinerary is as follows. If any of our UK list members still belong to this list and have any suggestions or invitations that would allow me to enhance my visit as organist/accompanist, please reply privately. Tues. & Wed. July 21-22 travel days arriving in London by 3:00pm Thurs. July 23: To Canterbury Cathedral with concert at noon; to Colchester with concert at 8:00pm bus back to London Fri. July 24: London during the day; 7:30pm concert at Crofton Baptist Church Sat. July 25: Bus to Newcastle with sightseeing along the way (Cambridge University) Sun. July 26: 10:45am concert at Westgate Road Baptist Church; 1:00pm bus to Edinburgh, Scotland with concert at 8:15 pm,Charlotte Baptist Chapel Mon. July 27: Edinburgh during the day; 3:00pm bus to Stratford-upon-Avon Tues. July 28: Stratford-upon-Avon during the day, including Warwick Castle; dinner and play at Shakespeare Royal Theatre Wed. July 29: Bus to Blenheim Palace and on to London; possible side-trip to Windsor Castle Thurs. July 30: Free day in London Fri. July 31 & Sat. Aug. 1: travel days back home   Sincerely,   Lynne A. Lauderdale, D.M.A. Associate Professor/Coodinator Department of Music The University of West Florida Organist, First Baptist Church Pensacola, Florida   :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Note: opinions expressed on PIPORG-L are those of the individual con- tributors and not necessarily those of the list owners nor of the Uni- versity at Albany. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::      
(back) Subject: Organists as moral leaders: an anecdote From: <Shakehip@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:00:00 EDT   In a message dated 5/29/1998 7:58:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, theraven@istar.ca writes:   << Just out of curiosity..... Why would anyone want to have an education in "Religious" music, then want to play in a church... if they do not believe in that church, or religion in the first place. Why not study for an other area of music???? An area that can be approached with "heart and soul" so to speak. Would make more sense to me. You say a lot of people on this list are sanctimonious, but hey, these are after all "church organists". Of course, those who play other than in church, do not need to be Sanctified--as I call it. I am sure that we are able to separate the different musicians and where they play. If I hear an organist on a theatre organ in a hall, I certainly do not expect them to be holy and dignified. However, those are characteristics that are expected of those who play in a holy place. Ruth >>  
(back) Subject: Re: Orientation Fees? From: Robert Horton <r-horton@nwu.edu> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 21:53:14 -0500   >From: Brent Johnson <bmjohns@swbell.net> > Apparently, the >organist at this church charged a fee to show guest organists how to play >their organ...Is this common?   got the patent on that information. Just goes to show that a little information can be dangerous.     Robert Horton, Northwestern University Organ Scholar 1726 1/2 Sherman Ave. Evanston, IL 60201 tel.847.424.1733 http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~rch507/index.html   "You don't have to practice all the notes... ....just the ones that you want to play well."      
(back) Subject: Organists as moral leaders:an anecdote From: <Shakehip@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:08:51 EDT   An apology for hitting the return key too soon !   I was offered a job at a synogogue playing organ. I turned it down because I don't attend synogogue. The person who got the job for me was my father. Next thing I knew, I got a job offer at a Baptist church. This shocked me, as my father is more traditional in his faith... and I was surprized he wouldn't mind me playing in a church. I asked him about this and he said I could be religious when I "can get a decent job that pays the bills"...   When I pointed out to the church that while learning the liturgy wouldn't be impossible for me, I did not have a backround in that kind of liturgy nor was of that faith, the Pastor seemed to quip that he couldn't afford a believer or professional.   Oh well...   Anyway, even being a "non-sanctimonious" person, I have to agree with Ruth. No matter how much I respected or liked the liturgy (and could read it), I think I'd be a hypocrite coming in just for the bucks... I'd feel shady and dodgy.   In a message dated 5/29/1998 7:58:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, theraven@istar.ca writes:   << Just out of curiosity..... Why would anyone want to have an education in "Religious" music, then want to play in a church... if they do not believe in that church, or religion in the first place. Why not study for an other area of music???? An area that can be approached with "heart and soul" so to speak. Would make more sense to me. You say a lot of people on this list are sanctimonious, but hey, these are after all "church organists". Of course, those who play other than in church, do not need to be Sanctified--as I call it. I am sure that we are able to separate the different musicians and where they play. If I hear an organist on a theatre organ in a hall, I certainly do not expect them to be holy and dignified. However, those are characteristics that are expected of those who play in a holy place. Ruth >>  
(back) Subject: Re: Organists as moral leaders From: danbel@earthlink.net Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:14:49 -0400   >If I hear an organist on a theatre organ in a hall, I certainly do not >expect them to be holy and dignified.   Personally, I believe that it requires every bit as much "dignity" to be "an organist on a theatre organ in a hall" as it does to play in any church. This is not a slam on playing in church---it's just to reinforce that playing an organ in some place OTHER than church is just as important AND dignified.   Dan    
(back) Subject: Re: Orientation Fees? From: Brent Johnson <bmjohns@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 22:10:35 -0500       Robert Horton wrote:   > Unless this instrument is nuclear powered (e.g. Fission Mixture CCLXLVIII),   Hmmmm *Thinking how this can be incorporated into new Wicks instrument* Actually, you probably shouldn't say stuff like that. Now we'll all get posts about huge mixtures built to help out those 128's that could pop up. Brent Johnson http://home.swbell.net/bmjohns      
(back) Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:24:49 -0400   I would start an organ fund or maintenance fund. You didn't tell me about the organ!! Pipes? Congregation of 3. Sounds like a job I would want. Is it one of those wonderful olde English buildings, historical and all.?   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:25:42 -0400   Well, I might, but I don't have my glasses on!   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:30:01 -0400   Weddings and funerals are generally considered worship services of the church. It has been my experience that if families are given the option of planning the service or having it done for them, they would much rather turn their attention to other things, especially for funerals. One lady told me that she was so embarrased when the rector asker her what her husband's favorite hymn was. She said "Amazing Grace" even though she knew he hated it because she couldn't remember the name of any other hymns and felt stupid. People really don't know (or usually care) that much about specific music. Brides even most often prefer not to be bothered but don't want the clergy to know that they just don't give a damn! It's very seldom a problem for me if I get there first.   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 04:32:37 BST           On Fri, 29 May 1998 23:24:49 -0400 bruce cornely wrote:   > From: bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> > Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:24:49 -0400 > Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > I would start an organ fund or maintenance fund. You didn't tell me > about the organ!! Pipes? Congregation of 3. Sounds like a job I > would want. Is it one of those wonderful olde English buildings, > historical and all.? > > bruce o h s __________ a g o > cornely o o __________ o o > ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ........... > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >   Hi   Yes, it's a typcal English church. The oldest part of the building, the tower, is over a thousand years old. The transepts, nave and chancel are Norman. It's in a nice setting too. It stands on the village green by the Duck Pond, which has a nice fountain in the middle, and my local pub.(when I'm home). I've got some nice pictures of the church and green, and the organ if you'd like them.   Jen      
(back) Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:36:15 -0400   I love the spec. I would love to be in a spot like that. (sigh) Just to live in a little village and play an organ like that...... Thanky   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 04:34:32 BST           On Fri, 29 May 1998 23:25:42 -0400 bruce cornely wrote:   > From: bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> > Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:25:42 -0400 > Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Well, I might, but I don't have my glasses on! > > bruce o h s __________ a g o > cornely o o __________ o o > ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ........... > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > Hi   Why is the subject still 'locked organs and limited access'. That conversation was about three days ago!!   Let me know when you find your geggs!   Jen      
(back) Subject: Locked consoles/limited access and the Shrine Kilgen From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:44:43 EDT   Let me say, as I have in the past, that when I arrive in July the Shrine Kilgen Grand Organ will be available to be seen and played by anyone wishing to do so.   I will post contact information when I get to Detroit.   Scott F. Foppiano Director of Music and Liturgical Coordination The Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, Michigan  
(back) Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 04:42:28 BST           On Fri, 29 May 1998 23:36:15 -0400 bruce cornely wrote:   > From: bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> > Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:36:15 -0400 > Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > I love the spec. I would love to be in a spot like that. (sigh) Just > to live in a little village and play an organ like that...... Thanky > > bruce o h s __________ a g o > cornely o o __________ o o > ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ........... > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > No problem. I'm sure you prefer the fast city and your four manuals really. Your just being sympathetic.   Hope you liked it.   Jen      
(back) Subject: Jen's wunnerful olde english organ From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 00:08:08 -0400   this better?   bruce o h s __________ a g o cornely o o __________ o o ........... cremona84000@webtv.net ...........    
(back) Subject: Goodnight From: Jenny Moon <bfus7@central.susx.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 05:20:10 BST     Hello.   It has been a long night. It is now 5.20am in sunny britain and I'm pretty tierd considering I've been at my comouter since 8.30pm and several times throughout the day.   So, for you it is good night, for me, good morning.   Sleep well. Sweet dreams.   Jen.      
(back) Subject: Re: Locked Consoles and Limited Access From: sohmer@juno.com Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:30:39 -0400   Good points are made here, methinks.... when a person signs up for practice privileges, it seems that the person has to take ownership - if something is wrong with theinstrument, he/she will generally will make that known to the proper authorities quickly, right? At least it teaches some responsibility that the student/even professional might have never learned - or had forgotten.   Now, if we were to use name address and phone number logs for usage of men's public restrooms, men wouldn't be such pigs........ but I digress and will get kicked off the list, except that this is about organs, afterall.....   Steve Ohmer Signing in and out....   On Fri, 29 May 1998 12:55:26 EDT <Shakehip@aol.com> writes: >As the head teacher at my school in Japan I was responsible for >keeping >equipment (be it books, musical instruments, or even toilet seat >covers) in >good condition. > >I found that when you allow free "self service" access to anything, >its an >open invitation for abuse - - atleast in the eys of some people. > >My policy with music instruments was keep them "covered" (excellent >symbol) >but allow free access with permission. This reminds the user that >its not >"public domain" and that he/she is responsible for it while it is >being used. >It also sends out the message that music instruments are to be >respected. >Total free access sometimes sends out the message that the item in >question is >for "kicking around". > >I also found out that in the case of the piano we had, by creating a >"sign-up" >system, it actually encouraged students to reserve time on it. >Prior, every >once and a while, a student would come by and bang it, but basically >it went >neglected except for during assemblies. When the sign up system >evolved, >some students who didn't have pianos at home, would actually sign up >regularly >to practise. When I wanted to get the piano tuned, I was also able >to use >the sign-up log to show how important the piano was to the students. >(Prior >to my tenure, it had gone years and years without a tuning...) The >sign up >sheet also reminded other teachers and the secretaries of their duty >to look >after this important piece of school property. > >This advice, I hope would be particularly useful to churches, schools >and >institutions that, in addition to their main organ, might have several >smaller >electronic organs and pianos not in use, currently enduring every >abuse under >the sun yet are still *pardon the pun* redeemable. > >- - Ed > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: small organ society From: sohmer@juno.com Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 00:13:24 -0400   Hydraulic organs.....   The organ in First Unitarian Church, 3rd St. at Putnam St., in Marietta, Ohio, is one of those organs - it was water powered until about 1950, from what the then organist, Viola Stegner (her real name!!!!) told me. She has probably gone on to her other existence by now, but she knew the history of that organ - as a matter of fact, that church paid me between $50 and $75 per service way back in 1969! Of course, the pastor made me play at least three short organ solos during the service, in addition to the prelude offertory and postlude. The people sang well, the organ was a bit of a dog, but fun, anyway, with its FernFlute on the great......   I thought maybe she had not told me the truth (how dare she not!!!) until this recent string appeared. What a wonderful memory from the earliest days of my career!!! :-)   Steve Ohmer On Fri, 29 May 1998 17:20:25 -0500 (CDT) "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> writes: >At 07:07 PM 5/29/98 BST, Jen wrote: > >>I was told by the owner that this organ had been built with it's wind > >>supplied by 'water blowing equipment'. When I asked for more >>information I was given a vague reply, and I'm not really any the >>wiser. >> >>Does anybody know anything about 'water blowing equipment'? As far >as >>I knew early organs relied on hand pumping. >> >>Is this water system still used by any modern builders, or was it a >>progression to the electric blowing systems that we know now. > >Quite a number of pipe organs were blown by water-powered hydraulic >engines >between around 1860 and 1920. The hydraulic engine was a single >cylinder >engine in which the cylinder alternately filled and emptied of water >and >very slowly drove a piston up and down. This produced a reciprocating >motion that pumped the bellows of the organ in the same way that a >hand >pumper would pump them. The earliest electric blowers were DC motors >that >worked the pump handle through an eccentric, and the modern AC rotary >blowers only became popular around the World War I era. In around >1900 >almost all the organs in New York City were water powered, and it is >said >that this used so much water that there was not enough pressure for >you to >be able to have a bath on Sunday mornings! Although I have never seen >an >operating water engine working an organ, I have seen some disused ones >in >the basements of churches. The hydraulic blower was turned on by a >wheel-shaped faucet, generally located next to the console and often >about >six inches to a foot in diameter. You sometimes see these in old >photographs of organs, and you occasionally see a disused on still in >place. > >John. > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]