PipeChat Digest #585 - Monday, November 9, 1998
 
Re: Time Travelling
  by "Aida van de Brake" <Aida@cable.A2000.nl>
Re: Bach - 'Nun Danket'
  by "Aida van de Brake" <Aida@cable.A2000.nl>
Re: Time Travelling
  by "Bud" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: Time Travelling
  by "Aida van de Brake" <Aida@cable.A2000.nl>
organ compositions when Clinton goes?
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: Time Travelling
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: organ compositions when Clinton goes?
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Time Travelling
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@MediaOne.net>
Re: Bach - 'Nun Danket'
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Organ Stuff For Sale
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Nun Danket - was a Bach story
  by <Afreed0904@aol.com>
Re: organ compositions when Clinton goes?
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: organ compositions when Clinton goes?
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
More Organ Stuff For Sale
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Ethel Smith!
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: organ compositions when Clinton goes?
  by "Aida van de Brake" <Aida@cable.A2000.nl>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Time Travelling From: Aida van de Brake <Aida@cable.A2000.nl> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 11:20:51 +0100       bruce cornely wrote: > > I want to see heaven, where there is only tracker > action, unequal temperament, flexible wind, ... ;-) >     Now I know for sure I want to be sent to hell!   "I'm coming E.M., Edwin, Virgil, and all you guys down there!! Turn up the blowers!!!"  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach - 'Nun Danket' From: Aida van de Brake <Aida@cable.A2000.nl> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 12:25:18 +0100     bruce cornely wrote: > > "Slow movements for Krummhorn* (!) (...) and manually > blown organ" >     Anything to do with your family name?!! ;-]     Aida.  
(back) Subject: Re: Time Travelling From: Bud <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 06:11:09 -0800   On a SOMEWHAT more serious note (grin), I think it was Billy Graham who said that everything needed for our happiness will be found in heaven. For me, that will include all the music Mozart would have written (had he lived), the Cavaille-Coll for St. Peter's in Rome that never got built, and a dynasty of mutts and stray cats, and, oh yes, all my friends and loved ones.   Bud   Aida van de Brake wrote:   > bruce cornely wrote: > > > > I want to see heaven, where there is only tracker > > action, unequal temperament, flexible wind, ... ;-) > > > > Now I know for sure I want to be sent to hell! > > "I'm coming E.M., Edwin, Virgil, and all you guys down > there!! Turn up the blowers!!!" > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Time Travelling From: Aida van de Brake <Aida@cable.A2000.nl> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 15:24:15 +0100   Bud wrote: > > On a SOMEWHAT more serious note (grin), I think it was Billy > Graham who said that everything needed for our happiness will > be found in heaven. > > > > bruce cornely wrote: > > > > > > I want to see heaven, where there is only tracker > > > action, unequal temperament, flexible wind, ... ;-) > > >       Well, apparently Bruce wouldn't find happiness in heaven with Pitman-chests steady winds and equal temperaments all around the place. Where would that leave us symphonatics then ...?   If one would want to keep everyone happy, one might have a slight problem here ...       Aida.       ############################################################## # An organ without strings is like a violin without a bow, # # An orchestra without conductor, a symphony without themes. # ##############################################################  
(back) Subject: organ compositions when Clinton goes? From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:49:32 EST       "Greg McAusland" <gregorymca@pavilion.co.uk> recently wrote:   >Will there be a flurry of organ compositions when Clinton goes?   >Big Organpipe Greg (BOG)       Instead, it looks like a lot of fellow Republicans are 'piping', "Boot Newt!"   Perhaps Newt used the 'Grand Principal' rank too often! Or he tried to use the 'Vox Angelica' and 'Regal' stops when he ought to have used the 'Harmonic Clarion'. Too many voters thus considered him as 'Clarabella' and 'Corno Flute' because he used too much 'Rhorflute'. The end of the Gingrich composition will definitely make use of the 'Grave Mixture'. His composition definitely began with the 'Contre-Bombarde', 'Contrabass', 'Contraprinzipal' and 'Contra Fagatto', all on the 'Great organ' On the other hand, Clinton did make too much use of the 'Grossflute' and the 'Progresso HarMonica'. Would the Clinton compositions emphasize the labial ranks on the organ? ..definitely the 'Serpent' and 'Tibia Vulgaris' ranks would be used. ...all in the 'Swell' organ. I will allow other pipechat members to expand along these lines.   Look what Greg started!!! He He He!!!   Stan      
(back) Subject: Re: Time Travelling From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:22:01 -0600 (CST)   At 03:24 PM 11/8/98 +0100, Aida van de Brake wrote: >Bud wrote: >>=20 >> On a SOMEWHAT more serious note (grin), I think it was Billy=20 >> Graham who said that everything needed for our happiness will=20 >> be found in heaven.=20 >> >> >> > bruce cornely wrote: >> > > >> > > I want to see heaven, where there is only tracker >> > > action, unequal temperament, flexible wind, ... ;-) >> > > > > > >Well, apparently Bruce wouldn't find happiness in heaven with >Pitman-chests steady winds and equal temperaments all around >the place. Where would that leave us symphonatics then ...? > >If one would want to keep everyone happy, one might have a=20 >slight problem here ...   No problem at all. There will be Skinners, and Casavants, and Cavaill=E9-Colls (or is it Cavaill=E9s-Coll?), and Hooks, and Willises, and Father Smiths, and Silbermanns, and Schnitgers, and Byfields, and Snetzlers, and ... BUT NOT (Oh! I'd better not say it!)=20   John.    
(back) Subject: Re: organ compositions when Clinton goes? From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:08:59 -0600 (CST)   At 11:49 AM 11/8/98 EST, Stan wrote: > >On the other hand, Clinton did make too much use of the 'Grossflute' and the >'Progresso HarMonica'.   Well, perhaps all this will blow over (or overblow) and fade away into a HarMonica Aetheria :-)   John.    
(back) Subject: Re: Time Travelling From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@MediaOne.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 14:12:22 -0500   John L. Speller wrote: >=20 > At 03:24 PM 11/8/98 +0100, Aida van de Brake wrote: > >Bud wrote: > >> > >> On a SOMEWHAT more serious note (grin), I think it was Billy > >> Graham who said that everything needed for our happiness will > >> be found in heaven. > >> > >> > >> > bruce cornely wrote: > >> > > > >> > > I want to see heaven, where there is only tracker > >> > > action, unequal temperament, flexible wind, ... ;-) > >> > > > > > > > > > >Well, apparently Bruce wouldn't find happiness in heaven with > >Pitman-chests steady winds and equal temperaments all around > >the place. Where would that leave us symphonatics then ...? > > > >If one would want to keep everyone happy, one might have a > >slight problem here ... >=20 > No problem at all. There will be Skinners, and Casavants, and > Cavaill=E9-Colls (or is it Cavaill=E9s-Coll?), and Hooks, and Willises,= and > Father Smiths, and Silbermanns, and Schnitgers, and Byfields, and Snetz= lers, > and ... BUT NOT (Oh! I'd better not say it!) >=20   ....actually none of the above. Water and sewer pipes although not musical continue to bring more benefits to the human race than pipe organs ever will.   Stan  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach - 'Nun Danket' From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:33:26 -0500 (EST)   Nope -- not my family name. Do you know the derivation of Krummhorn?   (I don't know you too well, so I'm treading lightly here !! ;-) )..   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     Acquiring a dog may be the only opportunity a human ever has to choose a relative. -- Mordecai Siegal    
(back) Subject: Organ Stuff For Sale From: ScottFop@aol.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 16:14:28 EST   1974 Holtkamp tracker pipe organ. Two manuals, 13 stops and 19 ranks including:   GT: 8 Gedackt, 4 Prinzipal, 2 Waldflote, IV Mixture, 8 Dulzian, Positif to Great POS: 8 Copula, 4 Rohrflote, 2 Prinzipal, II Sesquialter, III Scharff PED: 16 Pommer, 8 Flote, 4 Choralbass, Great to Pedal and Positif to Pedal   Case is compact in custom Honduras Mahogany, 11 feet width by 11 feet deep and 12 feet in height.   Currently in use in a First Unitarian Church in Ann Arbor, MI. For further details contact Sarah Albright at (734) 761-7712   *****************************   Wurlitzer Chryssoglott (@1926-27), needs total restoration, $500 or negotiable.   Casavant 16-stage Whiffle Tree Swell Engine, circa 1968, $275.   Console Shell, compact, include pedalboard, bench and rolltop, tripper stop action. Two manual capacity (manuals not included). Originally built by Durst. Free to good home.   Lowest 12 pipes of 8' Diapason, 42 scale, Estey circa 1928. $100 or negotiable. Good condition.   Deluxe Speaker System (from Allen TC3-S, circa late 1960's or ealy 70's) includes four speaker cabinets, 300 watts and a Gyrosonic for the flute stops. $250 or negotiable (total of 44 individual speakers and four 15" woofers)   Estey Gross Flute (with Haskell basses) open, not stopped. Circa 1928, 73 pipes. $250. Good condition.   Estey Vox Humana. Circa 1928, 73 pipes. $250. Good condition.   For further information on the above items, contact Al Hunter at (248) 542-3353  
(back) Subject: Re: Nun Danket - was a Bach story From: Afreed0904@aol.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 16:51:00 EST     In a message dated 11.8.98 12:41:13 AM, JKVDP@aol.com writes:   <<I find it most interesting that the inspiration for "Now Thank We All Our God" came from the Apocrypha[,] which most Protestants do not accept as Scripture. If your pastor has strong Puritan empathy, point him/her to Ecclesiasticus 50: 22 - 26 and say how glad you are that the church is using the Apocrypha!!>>   Jerry:   You possibly didn't mean to include vv. 25-26, which don't seem to have a lot to do with it. Nevertheless, you make an interesting point, and one of which I was previously unaware--although The Lutheran Hymnal (1941) explicitly relates the hymn to "Ecclus. 50:22-24," so I SHOULD have known it. (I imagine the predecessor and successor hymnals do as well.)   BUT: It's not so terribly surprising. While the Protestants generally do indeed avoid the apocrypha, the Lutherans are somewhat more conservative. These writings were included in Luther's Bible (1534), and are read in Lutheran churches the world over. Pastor Martin Rinkart, who wrote the hymn, was an astonishingly learned fellow, about 50 when he wrote these lines, and surely would have been quite familiar with the apocrypha. From Ecclesiasticus alone there are in the Lutheran editions of the Revised Common Lectionary no fewer than five readings assigned to Sundays and major festivals in Year C alone, plus two more in Year A (I don't have the Lectionary for Year B at hand). The difference between Lutherans and Romans on this is simply that Lutherans have not found it necessary to employ apocryphal proof-texts for establishing doctrinal points.   I do share your glee in enlightening a puritanical clergyperson. Jerry: Where in Seattle? I grew up on Phinney Ridge in the Peistocene epoch.   Alan Freed, St. Luke's Church, Manhattan    
(back) Subject: Re: organ compositions when Clinton goes? From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:45:38 EST   In a message dated 11/8/98 10:50:38 AM Central Standard Time, KriderSM@aol.com writes:   << On the other hand, Clinton did make too much use of the 'Grossflute' and the 'Progresso HarMonica'. Would the Clinton compositions emphasize the labial ranks on the organ? ..definitely the 'Serpent' and 'Tibia Vulgaris' ranks would be used. ...all in the 'Swell' organ. I will allow other pipechat members to expand along these lines. >>   Ahhh, let us not forget about the Tuba Mirabilis :-)   John  
(back) Subject: Re: organ compositions when Clinton goes? From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:52:14 -0500 (EST)     >Ahhh, let us not forget about the Tuba > Mirabilis Well, that all depends on exactly what you mean by Mirabilis!   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     Acquiring a dog may be the only opportunity a human ever has to choose a relative. -- Mordecai Siegal    
(back) Subject: More Organ Stuff For Sale From: ScottFop@aol.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:09:20 EST   4' X 8' reservoire, Casavant, circa 1968. Internal curtain valve. $150, negotiable.   Contact Al Hunter for further details. (248) 542-3353  
(back) Subject: Ethel Smith! From: ScottFop@aol.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:47:43 EST   Tonight a friend took me to dinner as an early birthday treat. At dinner he pulled out a little package and gave it to me. It is called "Ethel Smith: Organ Extravaganza" and is a compilation rerelease by MCA Special Markets and Products division.   It has 24 of what I am assuming were her "greatest hits" all played on Hammonds with background percussions. WHAT a CAMP and WHAT FUN!!!!!!!   I had only seen her once in a film clip from a Walt Disney vides entitled "Melody Time" where she played this revolving white Hammond B-3 and played a song called "Blame It On the Samba." I had always wanted to hear her recordings and this CD is alot of fun indeed. I think it would have been sort of cool to have been around when she was really popular.   The individual who gave me this CD has a friend who studied with Virgil Fox when he (Virgil) lived right next door to Ethel in Florida. He tells fascinating stories of the two of them, their unique friendship during Virgil's last days and Ethel's very fine CLASSICAL organ technique. She was quoted to say "honey- 'Tico Tico' and a few other Latin songs bought me three Condos and enough cars to drive for the rest of my life!"   Scott Foppiano  
(back) Subject: Re: organ compositions when Clinton goes? From: Aida van de Brake <Aida@cable.A2000.nl> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 06:37:14 +0100   just kiddin'       bruce cornely wrote: > > >Ahhh, let us not forget about the Tuba > > Mirabilis > Well, that all depends on exactly what you mean by Mirabilis! > > .......................bruce cornely........................ > o o o o ______________ o o o o > d o g s ______________ o o h o > o a o o ______________ o o p s > > ............ cremona84000@webtv.net ............ > > Acquiring a dog may be the only opportunity a human ever has to choose a > relative. -- Mordecai Siegal > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org