PipeChat Digest #592 - Saturday, November 14, 1998
 
R: Wind supply
  by "Mascioni Organi" <masciorg@tin.it>
Compressing WAV files
  by "Vincent Lef vre" <vlefevere@unicall.be>
Re: electronic practice organ
  by "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com>
Re: Greetings all....
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Re: electronic practice organ
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: 32' bottle stop?
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Organ stuff reply
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: electronic practice organ
  by "Charles Krug" <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net>
Re: electronic practice organ
  by "Adam and Christine Levin" <levins@westnet.com>
Wurli Chrysoglott
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Organ stuff reply
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net>
Re: electronic practice organ
  by "Adam and Christine Levin" <levins@westnet.com>
Re: electronic practice organ
  by "Adam and Christine Levin" <levins@westnet.com>
Re: Compressing WAV files
  by "Adam and Christine Levin" <levins@westnet.com>
Re: electronic practice organ
  by "Adam and Christine Levin" <levins@westnet.com>
Re: Organ stuff reply
  by <WRansomeJr@aol.com>
Re: electronic practice organ
  by "Owen Jones" <owenj@dynamite.com.au>
Re: Compressing WAV files
  by "lynndee@vzinet.com" <lynndee@vzinet.com>
Re: Greetings all....
  by <WRansomeJr@aol.com>
Re: electronic practice organ
  by <CHERCAPA@aol.com>
To Randy's Wicks
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Organ stuff reply
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re:  practice organ dilemma
  by <WRansomeJr@aol.com>
Re: To Randy's Wicks
  by <WRansomeJr@aol.com>
Randy's Wicks
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Randy's Wicks
  by <WRansomeJr@aol.com>
Visit!!
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpncorn@davesworld.net>
 


(back) Subject: R: Wind supply From: "Mascioni Organi" <masciorg@tin.it> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:18:15 +0100   Dear friend,   here is the address of an organ supply company in Germany who shurely has an answer to your question:   Aug. Laukhuff Orgelteile Weikersheim - Germany E-mail: laukhufforgel@t-online.de   This company provides organ parts for organbuilders all around the world. We hope this can help you.   Fam. V.Mascioni srl Organbuilders since 1829 Varese - Italy   http://web.tin.it/mascioni   -----Messaggio originale----- Da: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]Per conto di LAMAR BOULET Inviato: sabato 14 novembre 1998 3.25 A: pipechat@pipechat.org Oggetto: Wind supply     Thanks for the input on my problem with the console wind supply. One of you mentioned a Chamade Blower. That would do the job if it has enough pressure. I did not read the static while I was there, but that can be checked. I am over a hundred miles from the site. There is a crawl space beneath the console where a blower can be installed so that blower noise can be controlled. It is odd that I did not think of a Chamade blower since I have serviced several of them, but I guess that is what age will do for you. NOw , where can I get a Chamade Blower. I talked with Organ Supply and was told that there is not a blower that would do the job for me. I wonder why he did not mention the Chamade Blower. I have a job pending now where I am to remove a Chamade and blower so that a re-construction job can be done. I contacted the builder of this organ by way of E-mail about a week ago and so far have not received a reply.   Thanks--everyone. lamar Boulet   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Compressing WAV files From: "Vincent Lefèvre" <vlefevere@unicall.be> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:17:44 +0100   Dear List members, I'm looking for softare allowing compressing (1 to 10) of WAV files. I promised some list members to send them samples of pipe organ music. Original WAV files are to big to be accepted. I use Cool Edit 96 to sample the sound tracks. I would appreciate your help vlefevere@unicall.be        
(back) Subject: Re: electronic practice organ From: "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 06:32:04 -0500   Borth Rodgers and Allen (and probably others as well) build models which begin in the neighborhood of $10,000. For that price, one needn't expect it to sound like much (self-contained consoles installed in carpeted homes never do), but it'd have an AGO console and would work splendidly for a practice instrument. (The one I own was purchased used when it was 8 years old for only $3,000!!!) It's inconceivable to me that this company couldn't do better (read: cheaper) than this. (Bruce: Allen's minimum 3-manual is around $25K, which is still only a third as expensive as this offering!)   -----Original Message----- From: bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 10:51 PM Subject: Re: electronic practice organ     I don't know that much about elecronics but it seems to me that with all the available technology, mass production, etc, that a 2/16 practice instrument could be manufactured for under $50,000. I just can't imagine how this box of wires, plastic and circuit boards could actually cost so much. If you can get a synthesizer with a bazillion noises on it for $3000, even a three manual and pedal thingy would come in under $10,000!   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     Anybody who doesn't know what soap tastes like never washed a dog. -- Franklin P. Jones     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: Greetings all.... From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 07:11:07 -0600   Are you serious Bruce?   that must be fun at partys !   ---------- > From: bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: Re: Greetings all.... > Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 12:55 AM > > Welcome back to pipechat. Congratulations on your new spot on the > "left side". > > >I have inherited a 1975 Wicks organ that will > > be fooled with till we can manage some > > decent sounds. II/13 ranks and rank #13 is a > > very BIG Chamade--kind of weird even for a > > Wicks from that era! > > Just for laughs, would you share the spec's of the Wicks with us. Maybe > we can "rebuild" it for you. I play a 2/21 Moller (82) with only two > manual reeds: a squally trompette in the swell and Peterbilt 8 on the > back wall just a couple of feet above head level. > > .......................bruce cornely........................ > o o o o ______________ o o o o > d o g s ______________ o o h o > o a o o ______________ o o p s > > ............ cremona84000@webtv.net ............ > > > Anybody who doesn't know what soap tastes like never washed a dog. -- > Franklin P. Jones > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: electronic practice organ From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:01:11 -0600   Bob Scarborough wrote: > > At 09:43 PM 11/13/98 -0700, Dennis Goward wrote: > >> Cost appears to be in the $50-60,000 range.<snip> > > > >Wow! This sounds extremely expensive for a 2/16! Certainly there's something > >already available at a more reasonable figure.   Why doesn't the person looking for the practice instrument contact Alan Laufman? That's what I did, and I got a good deal on something smaller than a sofa/couch or whatever you want to call it. But, it has 22 stops controlling 3 unified ranks. It makes a wonderful practice instrument!   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com        
(back) Subject: Re: 32' bottle stop? From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:05:57 -0600   GRSCoLVR@aol.com wrote: > > Hello List-------Regards the 2 different height bottles giving the same pitch > as reported by Kevin Cartright----Hmmmmmm-----tried it here with 2 bottles of > different heights,,and NOPE,,,different pitches,,,repeated again with water in > one bottle to bring one up to same depth as the other bottle,,,and YES,,,same > pitch...Dumped the water out again and NOPE,,,different pitch... > Apparently Mr. Cartright has discovered a new physical law. A Nobel prize...   I guess I'll have to clean the house, remove the bottles' labels, and put them under a secured glass case. "The Museum of the Two Bottles of Different Lengths That Have the Same Pitch"   Really, as in all new soda bottles, they have that pitted bottom (five depressions that act as a stand for the bottle). I wonder if that has something to do with it...   Or, I could keep quiet about it and forget the whole thing, so I won't have to go to the trouble. I already have reams of people waiting to hear the organ. (Around here, nobody's heard of a pipe organ in a house.)   Anyway,   Kevin C. Greenville, Alabama kevin1@alaweb.com        
(back) Subject: Re: Organ stuff reply From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:12:52 -0600   TJ Plajer wrote: > > Here is a Crazy/Funny question: > > How does a Pipe Organ smell? As in, what type of fragrance does it give > off? I have not been inside a live Pipe Organ in a long time! :)   Hide glue/leather/wood/other stuff/60yr.old. dust/etc... It's a smell that only organ people like!   krc      
(back) Subject: Re: electronic practice organ From: "Charles Krug" <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:43:40 -0500   Bruce,   >I don't know that much about elecronics but it seems to me that with all >the available technology, mass production, etc, that a 2/16 practice >instrument could be manufactured for under $50,000.   The difference is the polyphony and the sample set. Making good samples takes work, and you're talking 61 samples/stop and 32/pedal if they do it right.   Polyphony takes computing power. that's getting cheaper all the time, but it still costs money. A $2k synthesizer only has 16 or 32 note polyphony.   Not certain they will generate the volume with this kind of product where economiccs of scale come in either. My day job, we take $10 micorprocessors and put them into $2000 computers, WITH the mass production techniques available. It's just that our target market doesn't support the volume. I mean, how many people in this world need to track satalites or incoming enemy missiles? *grins*    
(back) Subject: Re: electronic practice organ From: Adam and Christine Levin <levins@westnet.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:53:48 -0500 (EST)   On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 KriderSM@aol.com wrote: > A regional organ company with over a quarter century in the business is > contemplating the development and manufacture of electronic home/practice > organ (both classical and theatre styles). Specifications are not yet > complete, however, preliminary concepts lean toward a II/16 (2/16 - TO) > configuration. Cost appears to be in the $50-60,000 range. Console would > consist of "better than furniture grade" cabinetry, and tour quality > electronics would be used in tone generation. > Would there be any interest in such an instrument?   With modern computer technology the way it is I think the price is quite high if intended for home practice and not performance.   Here's a thoeretical breakdown using pre-built, new products available today (and I'm trying to overestimate): Two manuals: $379 each = $758 Pedal: $600 Case: $1000 Memory: 128MB = $300 Samples: $500 (assuming someone would create a sample CD library)   That's $3158. Even allowing for the programming, combination action, stop knobs and such, I find it hard to believe the thing should cost more than around $10000-$15000, even after advertising.   What it comes down to, though, is who'll buy it. Without the demand for volume, the price could climb very high indeed.   -Adam   Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online!_/"How I hunger my love for the dining http://westnet.com/~levins/ _______/room of your warm maceration/The shop, <*> __________________________/ the shop, I have a lozenge, the sky is pink/ -O / rejoice, candlemaker, you have a great big--" "You're making it up."    
(back) Subject: Wurli Chrysoglott From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:51:35 -0600   JASON COMET:   You mentioned you were looking for a chrysoglott. Here's one at http://theatreorgans.com/ads/forsale/981028X656.htm   krc      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ stuff reply From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:53:02 -0600   Kevin Cartwright wrote: > > TJ Plajer wrote: > > > > Here is a Crazy/Funny question: > > > > How does a Pipe Organ smell? As in, what type of fragrance does it give > > off? I have not been inside a live Pipe Organ in a long time! :) > > Hide glue/leather/wood/other stuff/60yr.old. dust/etc... It's a smell > that only organ people like! > > krc > As crazy as it sounds, he is absolutely right. A Wurlitzer has a completely different smell than most other organs. Sometimes I just sit on the top step going into the organ chamber and just take in that wonderful aroma.   jch  
(back) Subject: Re: electronic practice organ From: Adam and Christine Levin <levins@westnet.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:56:07 -0500 (EST)   On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, bruce cornely wrote: > cost so much. If you can get a synthesizer with a bazillion noises on > it for $3000, even a three manual and pedal thingy would come in under > $10,000!   My basic setup (used pedalboard, two manuals, a bazillion sounds) was less than $2000. More info about my practice setup at http://www.westnet.com/~levins/organ/practice.html. I have to update the pictures and equipment list because stuff's changed, but it's basically the same.   -Adam      
(back) Subject: Re: electronic practice organ From: Adam and Christine Levin <levins@westnet.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:01:04 -0500 (EST)   On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Owen Jones wrote: > IMHO it is the time spent in soldering and doing all the wiring which takes > scads of time that is the main cost factor in building an electronic > practice organ.   But you don't have to do a lot of that -- others have done it for you (I am, after all, a computer guy, and in computers the "why re-invent the wheel" motto is very, very strongly encouraged). If you get your hands on a couple of MIDI controllers, you're basically done.   -Adam      
(back) Subject: Re: Compressing WAV files From: Adam and Christine Levin <levins@westnet.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:02:35 -0500 (EST)   On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Vincent Lef=E8vre wrote: > Dear List members, > I'm looking for softare allowing compressing (1 to 10) of WAV files. I > promised some list members to send them samples of pipe organ music. > Original WAV files are to big to be accepted. I use Cool Edit 96 to > sample the sound tracks. I would appreciate your help   You can't do it well without losing quality. Your best bet would be to heaod over to Real Network's web site (www.real.com), download the free Real Encoder, and use that to encode the files at the Dual ISDN rate. It's almost CD quality, and it compresses about 10:1 or better.   -Adam   Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online!_/ http://westnet.com/~levins/ _______/ AH. DRAMA. <*> __________________________/ -O /    
(back) Subject: Re: electronic practice organ From: Adam and Christine Levin <levins@westnet.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:06:45 -0500 (EST)   On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Charles Krug wrote: > The difference is the polyphony and the sample set. Making good samples > takes work, and you're talking 61 samples/stop and 32/pedal if they do it > right.   Even the most expensive Kurzweil multi-CD sample sets cost around $500.   > Polyphony takes computing power. that's getting cheaper all the time, but > it still costs money. A $2k synthesizer only has 16 or 32 note polyphony.   Sorry, but times they are a-changin'. A $700 Alesis QS6.1 has 64 voice polyphony. Most synths now have 64 voice. Some $2k synths have 128 voice polyphony and 128MB of memory!   > Not certain they will generate the volume with this kind of product where > economiccs of scale come in either. My day job, we take $10 micorprocessors > and put them into $2000 computers, WITH the mass production techniques > available. It's just that our target market doesn't support the volume. I > mean, how many people in this world need to track satalites or incoming > enemy missiles?   The problem is clearly the volume -- to make a profit, they need to move the pieces. Still, they'll probably move more at $4,500 than they will at $45,000, but will they move *ten times* as many?   -Adam   Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online!_/ "There is a knocking without." http://westnet.com/~levins/ _______/ "Without what?" "Without the door, <*> __________________________/ idiot." "A knocking without a door? -O / This isn't some kind of Zen, is it?"    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ stuff reply From: WRansomeJr@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:44:22 EST   In a message dated 11/14/98 12:24:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, c_cortex@geocities.com writes:   > How does a Pipe Organ smell?   Old & musty...even if new!  
(back) Subject: Re: electronic practice organ From: Owen Jones <owenj@dynamite.com.au> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:45:42 +1100   That is very true, I didn't find out about all this midi stuff until I got onto the net last Christmas. The cost of some of these units in Australia, is very expensive. One expansion box was around 2000 aussie dollars, and I was too far into the project to change my plans. However, I am looking into a midi system for the organ. Allen has expander which would do the trick, dont know how much they are out here   Owen   Adam and Christine Levin wrote:   > On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Owen Jones wrote: > > IMHO it is the time spent in soldering and doing all the wiring which takes > > scads of time that is the main cost factor in building an electronic > > practice organ. > > But you don't have to do a lot of that -- others have done it for you (I > am, after all, a computer guy, and in computers the "why re-invent the > wheel" motto is very, very strongly encouraged). If you get your hands on > a couple of MIDI controllers, you're basically done. > > -Adam > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Compressing WAV files From: lynndee@vzinet.com (lynndee@vzinet.com) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:01:28 -0600       Vincent Lefevre wrote:   > Dear List members, > I'm looking for softare allowing compressing (1 to 10) of WAV files. I > promised some list members to send them samples of pipe organ music. > Original WAV files are to big to be accepted. I use Cool Edit 96 to > sample the sound tracks. I would appreciate your help > vlefevere@unicall.be > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   The best compression for wav files that maintain the quality of the original would be Mpeg Layer 3.. Another option would be encoding to Real Audio in the G2 format.. Either would work well... If you have any question on either I will be glad to help   Ken Schofield Media Tech. FUMC Canton, Tx. audiorus@mailexcite.com      
(back) Subject: Re: Greetings all.... From: WRansomeJr@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:58:54 EST   In a message dated 11/13/98 10:57:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, cremona84000@webtv.net writes:   > Just for laughs, would you share the spec's of the Wicks with us.   GREAT: 8' Princ. 8' Bordun (wood) 8' Erz (sw) 4' Prest. (ext 8) 4' Spillfl 2' Flachfl (ind) III Mixtur (really 2 rks) 8' Tpt. en Chamade 8' Trompette (sw) 8' Khorn (sw) 4' Clarion (sw) There is NO sw/gt coupler, tho as seen below the sw 8 & 4 fl are independent!   SWELL: 8' Rhorf 8' Erzahler (tc) 4' Nachthorn 4' Erz (ext) 2-2/3' Nazat (ext RF) 2' Blockflote (ext RF) 1-1/3' Quint (ext Erz) 1' Waldfl (ext 4' Fl) 8' Trompette en Chamade (gt) 8' Trompette 8' Krummhorn, Tremolo   PEDAL: 16' SB (ext gt) 8' Pr 8' RF 4' Pr 2' Nachthorn 16' Fagotto (independent, yeah!!) 8' Trompette (sw) 4' Clarion (sw) EVERYTHING borrowed here except 16 reed, again no coups.   There are 1-3 pistons for each division and 3 "masters" that serve as generals, but are not independent from the divisionals, and a cresc. pedal. The great and big reed are exposed in front of the sw box, and the pedal reed is hidden under all that with just the bells sticking up high enough to get the sound out! Entire flues getting revoiced in February, and looking for replacements for swell tpt and KH!   RandyT  
(back) Subject: Re: electronic practice organ From: CHERCAPA@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:01:34 EST   To the List, You can pick up a practice organ with two manuals and pedals, AGO for under $10,000. In addition, as regards the expenditure of anything over $500. you can get an old Rodgers or Allen church organ for the taking from a church that does not want to pay for it';s removal, especially from a choir loft. Just remember that you need some strong guys and it requires some planning. It is best to do it when the new pipe organ is being installed when the organ people need help in putting their new console in the loft, as you get yours out. Also, the relay box for Allens and, I assume Rodgers, is heavier than the console. A large organ (three manual) will have two. They are on casters but are fairly unwieldy being close to 6 feet tall and long and 24" deep. It's like moving a large, heavy closet on casters. It can be scary unless you are determined. Total cost, truck, CDL driver, 6 men, $685.00. Disconnect and reconnect was my responsibility including 3" hole in living room floor, for wiring to rel;ay box in cellar and reconnect 300some wires. Buy plenty of wire markers, you will go past 90. If you don't have the money or won't spend the money (I have two boys still in college) this is the way to go. The console is AGO, the tone is fine and as far as electronics go,the old Allens were actually engineering works of art. I plan to add another Allen (my old Carousel) to the two manual which will give me a TO compliment but with some great reeds. Sincerely, Paul P. VAltos  
(back) Subject: To Randy's Wicks From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:20:10 -0500   Hey, Randy........With all that stuff on that Wicks......I didn't see a Xylophone or Grand Cymbal Crash....great for Amens..........    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ stuff reply From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:23:00 -0600 (CST)   At 03:26 AM 11/14/98 -0800, T. J. Plajer wrote:   >How does a Pipe Organ smell? As in, what type of fragrance does it give >off? I have not been inside a live Pipe Organ in a long time! :)   Different pipe organs have different smells. My favorite ones are the old trackers that smell of moldy hassocks and lamp oil. Skinners tend to have a distinctive dusty smell, similar to government offices. Unfortunately a lot of the newer pipe organs smell of plastics and shag carpet adhesive. It's not the same ...   John.    
(back) Subject: Re: practice organ dilemma From: WRansomeJr@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:22:26 EST   This may seem an odd suggestion, but what ever happened to going to church or school to practice? I have been playing organ avidly since at least 1975, and have been a professional musician since 1982. When I lived with my parents I had an old upright piano in the basement and a Hammond spinet--did fine on these. I guess I was lucky that the churches in town all allowed me access to a variety of "real" organs as well.   Since 1984 I have had NO keyboard instrument at home at all! However I have owned two pipe organs that never got in working condition because I spent all my energy on the church instruments that often needed help! The last Pilcher console looked very impressive in my living room, though! When I moved to CA a few weeks ago I trashed everything except a few choice ranks that moved with me and will soon sing in the Wicksy-Clicksy that I am now playing.   But as we all know, If price is an issue, and it often is, there are free pipe and electronics out there for the taking, as someone earlier suggested, and at one parish we bought an excellent 1946 Moller for 1000.00 from a church in TN that was replacing it with an Allen. We added it to our 1979 Moller (with changes in pipes, of course) and it still works like new--still on original leather so far, all because they wanted "three keyboards."   WHERE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAY!!  
(back) Subject: Re: To Randy's Wicks From: WRansomeJr@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:24:41 EST   In a message dated 11/14/98 8:20:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, dutchorgan@svs.net writes:   > Hey, Randy........With all that stuff on that Wicks......I didn't see a > Xylophone or Grand Cymbal Crash....great for Amens..........   Well........I guess we could use some Master Cathedral Chimes Grande! Believe me, it don't SOUND impressive!  
(back) Subject: Randy's Wicks From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:35:56 -0500   Am putting in a little 4r Wicks in a country church here in Indiana. Flute, Salicional, Dulciana, Diapason, Chimes--unified like crazy. Should sound good in the " old barn " . Rick dutchorgan@svs.net    
(back) Subject: Re: Randy's Wicks From: WRansomeJr@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:50:42 EST   In a message dated 11/14/98 8:36:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, dutchorgan@svs.net writes:   > Am putting in a little 4r Wicks in a country church here in Indiana. Flute, > Salicional, Dulciana, Diapason, Chimes--unified like crazy. Should sound > good in the " old barn " . Rick   The older Wicks sounded much better IMO than the "open toe era" ones!  
(back) Subject: Visit!! From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@davesworld.net> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:09:27 -0600   On Friday the 13th, Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> laments:   >Many list members pass Greenville, Alabama on I-65 without thinking >about it. If Frank or anyone else remembers me and wants to stop by, >call (334) 382-7756, and we'll meet. I can spend a day or two, or an >hour. I'd love to meet another listmember!   It's too bad that I never realized or thought of that last Spring when I was down that way removing a termite-infested Wicks in New Orleans, then went over to visit with List Owner David Scribner. On my way back north, I'm sure I passed right by Greenville. There are others in the South I owe visits to also.   As fellow listmember Frank Johnson so succinctly put it: "Thank you my friend. Maybe some day."   Likewise.