PipeChat Digest #593 - Sunday, November 15, 1998
 
Re: electronic practice organ
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Randy's Wicks
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Compressing WAV files
  by "Vincent Lef vre" <vlefevere@unicall.be>
Re: Compressing WAV files
  by "Vincent Lef vre" <vlefevere@unicall.be>
Leslie speakers
  by "Bud" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: Organ stuff reply
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Organ stuff reply
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Randy's Wicks
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: electronic practice organ
  by <RSiegel920@aol.com>
Organ Smell
  by "Bruce Behnke" <behnke@lvcm.com>
Re: Organ Smell
  by "bmjohns" <bmjohns@swbell.net>
Re: Organ Smell
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Compressing WAV files
  by "Adam and Christine Levin" <levins@westnet.com>
Re: Organ Smell
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: electronic practice organ From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:48:56 -0500 (EST)     >The difference is the polyphony and the > sample set. Making good samples takes > work, and you're talking 61 samples/stop and > 32/pedal if they do it right. >Polyphony takes computing power. that's > getting cheaper all the time, but it still costs > money. A $2k synthesizer only has 16 or 32 > note polyphony. Thanks! You have completely convinced me of its worth. I'll just settle for a couple of ranks of pipes, one or two manuals and a (straight/flat) pedal board. No samples for me; I want the real thing!!   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     Anybody who doesn't know what soap tastes like never washed a dog. -- Franklin P. Jones    
(back) Subject: Randy's Wicks From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 13:16:46 -0500   Hi, Randy........This one was made in ' 39. Clean pipework, 3 1/2 " pressure. Was in a church here that had a gas explosion. Organ not hurt--praise the Lord.    
(back) Subject: Re: Compressing WAV files From: "Vincent Lefèvre" <vlefevere@unicall.be> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:47:49 +0100     --------------3D8F29EA54D44FBC2E088474 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       lynndee@vzinet.com wrote:   > > > > The best compression for wav files that maintain the quality of the > original would be Mpeg Layer 3.. Another option would be encoding to Real > Audio in the G2 format.. Either would work well... If you have any > question on either I will be glad to help > > Ken Schofield > Media Tech. FUMC Canton, Tx. > audiorus@mailexcite.com   Ken,Thanks for the information. Do you know where i can download a working version of Mpeg Layer 3? I found only a demonstration version. vlefevere@unicall.be   > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org       --------------3D8F29EA54D44FBC2E088474 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML> &nbsp;   <P>lynndee@vzinet.com wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE><A HREF="mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org"></A>&nbsp; <BR><A HREF="mailto:requests@pipechat.org"></A>&nbsp;   <P>&nbsp; The best compression for wav files that maintain the quality of the <BR>original would be Mpeg Layer 3..&nbsp; Another option would be encoding to Real <BR>Audio in the G2 format.. Either would work well...&nbsp; If you have any <BR>question on either I will be glad to help   <P>Ken Schofield <BR>Media Tech. FUMC Canton, Tx. <BR>audiorus@mailexcite.com</BLOCKQUOTE> Ken,Thanks for the information. Do you know where i can download a working version of Mpeg Layer 3? I found only a demonstration version. <BR>vlefevere@unicall.be <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;   <P>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" <BR>PipeChat:&nbsp; A&nbsp; discussion List for pipe/digital organs &amp; related topics <BR>HOMEPAGE : <A HREF="http://www.pipechat.org">http://www.pipechat.org</A> <BR>List: <A HREF="mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org</A> <BR>Administration:&nbsp; <A HREF="mailto:admin@pipechat.org">mailto:admin@pipechat.org</A> <BR>Subscribe/Unsubscribe:&nbsp; <A HREF="mailto:requests@pipechat.org">mailto:requests@pipechat.org</A></BLOCKQUOTE> &nbsp;</HTML>   --------------3D8F29EA54D44FBC2E088474--    
(back) Subject: Re: Compressing WAV files From: "Vincent Lefèvre" <vlefevere@unicall.be> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:50:19 +0100       Adam and Christine Levin wrote:   > > > You can't do it well without losing quality. Your best bet would be to > heaod over to Real Network's web site (www.real.com), download the free > Real Encoder, and use that to encode the files at the Dual ISDN rate. > It's almost CD quality, and it compresses about 10:1 or better. >   Adam and Christine,   Thank you very much for the information. I will try it out and keep you informed. vlefevere@unicall.be    
(back) Subject: Leslie speakers From: Bud <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:58:18 -0800   The Leslies for the Mighty Hammond arrived Thursday night ... took four hours to rewire them and get them up and playing. I had hoped for some improvement in sound, at least on the digital "pipe" voices (it's a Hammond/Suzuki Model 825, made about 1992), but it just seems to be more of the same (ugly). But a choir member came in while we were finishing up and said she could tell the difference immediately. The main benefit for me is getting the sound out of the skirts of my cassock (the console speakers) and up and BEHIND the choir so I can hear some kind of realistic balance.   After all the fracas about whether or not to move the Hammond to the new building next year, Earnest Young Rector announced a Vestry and Building Committee field trip to a neighboring church "to hear the Skinner" ... so MAYBE the pipe organ project isn't dead after all. St. Cecelia, pray for us!   Regards,   Bud Clark St. Matthew's-in-the-Shopping-Center Newport Beach CA USA    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ stuff reply From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 13:34:52 -0600   Jon C. Habermaas wrote: > As crazy as it sounds, he is absolutely right. A Wurlitzer has a > completely different smell than most other organs. Sometimes I just sit > on the top step going into the organ chamber and just take in that > wonderful aroma.   It must be the Tibia mouth leather and the Diaphone reeds. ;-)   krc        
(back) Subject: Re: Organ stuff reply From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 13:45:13 -0600   John L. Speller wrote: > Different pipe organs have different smells. My favorite ones are the (snip) > John.   Of course, the only listmember that knows what mine smells like is John Speller. And...Stuart Thompson if he's still here. Anywho,   krc        
(back) Subject: Re: Randy's Wicks From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 13:53:20 -0600   WRansomeJr@aol.com wrote:   > The older Wicks sounded much better IMO than the "open toe era" ones!   And those HORRIBLE flute/diapason confusion thingies... Where are the diap. harmonics? Where is the diap. volume? Luckily, my diaps. were of the "better vintage", before the new "tonal director waves" started crashing in.   krc        
(back) Subject: Re: electronic practice organ From: RSiegel920@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:50:31 EST   re: samples, I believe McGill University in Canada offers a CD of nothing but individual note by note samples of various stops taken from a large tracker instrument. Contact the McGill U. Music Dept for further details. ( They took a lot of heat from the unions when they came ot with this and other sample CDs). Regards R. J. Siegel  
(back) Subject: Organ Smell From: Bruce Behnke <behnke@lvcm.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 98 14:27:33 -0800   >How does a Pipe Organ smell? As in, what type of fragrance does it give >off? I have not been inside a live Pipe Organ in a long time! :)   Possibly this fragrance could be bottled and supplied in an aerosol spray version for people with electronics.   Bruce    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Smell From: bmjohns <bmjohns@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:43:08 -0600   Among dust and must, I find the smell of dead bats to be unique to organs. Usually only organs where the blower or parts of the organ are back in a bell tower. Brent Johnson The Organ Web Ring http://home.swbell.net/bmjohns/organ.htm     Bruce Behnke wrote:   > >How does a Pipe Organ smell? As in, what type of fragrance does it give > >off? I have not been inside a live Pipe Organ in a long time! :) > > Possibly this fragrance could be bottled and supplied in an aerosol spray > version for people with electronics. > > Bruce > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Smell From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:22:02 -0600   Bruce Behnke wrote: > > >How does a Pipe Organ smell? As in, what type of fragrance does it give > >off? I have not been inside a live Pipe Organ in a long time! :) > > Possibly this fragrance could be bottled and supplied in an aerosol spray > version for people with electronics.   Or, we could get back at the electronic manufacturers by selling it $500 for 5oz.   krc      
(back) Subject: Re: Compressing WAV files From: Adam and Christine Levin <levins@westnet.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:33:25 -0500 (EST)   On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Vincent Lef=E8vre wrote: > lynndee@vzinet.com wrote: > > The best compression for wav files that maintain the quality of the > > original would be Mpeg Layer 3.. Another option would be encoding to R= eal > > Audio in the G2 format.. Either would work well... If you have any > > question on either I will be glad to help >=20 > Ken,Thanks for the information. Do you know where i can download a workin= g > version of Mpeg Layer 3? I found only a demonstration version. > vlefevere@unicall.be   MPEG layer 3 stuff can be found at www.mp3.org. I've found, however, that 128kbit MP3's are larger and take a much longer time to encode than Real Encoder 5 Dual ISDN, and the sound is virtually indistinguishable. At work on my Sun UltraSPARC 170MHz Unix box running Solaris 2.5.1, Real Encoder took 2 minutes to encode a file which took an MP3 encoder an hour, and the MP3 was twice the size and sounded the same. I've heard people scream about how great MP3 is, but I'm just not seeing it. Try them both for best results.   I understand that RealAudio G2 is *even better*.   -Adam   Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online!_/ It is said that whosoever the go= ds http://westnet.com/~levins/ _______/ wish to destroy, they first make ma= d. <*> __________________________/ In fact...they first hand the equivalent of= a -O / stick with a fizzing fuse and Acme Dynamite Company written on the sid= e.    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Smell From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 23:03:26 -0500   >Bruce Behnke wrote:   >Or, we could get back at the electronic manufacturers by selling it $500 >for 5oz. >   I'm curious. There was a Mr. Behnke who taught organ here in Winfield, Kansas a number of years ago. I don't remember his first name. That wouldn't happen to be you would it?   Frank Johnson   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156