PipeChat Digest #597 - Wednesday, November 18, 1998
 
Re: New CD
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Re: Ivories
  by "Robert Ehrhardt" <robert.ehrhardt@mci2000.com>
Re: Best digital church organs?
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: Recording concerts
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
"Cavaille-Coll" at La Trinite in Paris
  by "Mark Quarmby" <markq@flex.com.au>
Re:Assistant Organists
  by "Mark Quarmby" <markq@flex.com.au>
Re: Sacre Cour , Paris
  by "Mark Quarmby" <markq@flex.com.au>
Re: "Cavaille-Coll" at La Trinite in Paris
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Ivories
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
clean ivories
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: Recording concerts
  by "Adam and Christine Levin" <levins@westnet.com>
Re: clean ivories
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@MediaOne.net>
OrganChat tonight!
  by "W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: New CD From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:25:30 -0600   I recently purchased this one too and Bob is understating the greatness of this CD (just kidding Bob) It is wonderful !! Put it on you Christmas list at once !!!   Robert   ---------- > From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: New CD > Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 10:53 AM > > I have just bought a new CD ( or, at least new to me), of Naji Hakim > playing the Cavaille-Coll organ at La Sainte-Trinitie in Paris, where he is > the titulaire. > > It is really a superb recording both in its content and the actual sound. > The programme is simply called "French Organ Music" on an EMI Classics Debut > No. 5 72272 2. > > It has on it: > Franck: Chorale No. 3 > Vierne: Carillon de Westminster and Etoile de Soir > Langlais: Te Deum, Ave Maria, and Ave Maria Stella > Messiaen: Dieu Parmi Nous and Priere apres la Communion > Hakim: Canticum and Pange Lingua > > If I still had a radio progamme to play it on, it would go on during the > next one! > > I fully recommend it! > > Bob Conway > > > > Architecture, in general, is frozen music. > Fredrich von Schelling, 1775 1854 > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: Ivories From: Robert Ehrhardt <robert.ehrhardt@mci2000.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:51:02 -0600   Why is everybody so KEYED UP???   -- Robert Ehrhardt <robert.ehrhardt@mci2000.com> Noel Memorial UMC,Shreveport, LA Team AMIGA    
(back) Subject: Re: Best digital church organs? From: dougcampbell@juno.com (Douglas A. Campbell) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:02:27 EST     On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:04:05 +0000 "Steven L. Egler" <Steven.Egler@cmich.edu> writes: >Cornell Zimmer is putting out a fine product these days-- all Walker >(sp?) >components, which Casavant uses for its electronic 32's. > >Steven Egler >-- Steven,   In their recent quoptation to my church Casavant is using Peterson electronics for 32' voices.     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Recording concerts From: dougcampbell@juno.com (Douglas A. Campbell) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:02:27 EST     On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:55:00 -0500 (EST) Adam and Christine Levin <levins@westnet.com> writes: > <snip> The organ is a 3/fiftysomething Schantz with a lot of high >end. >The bass doesn't carry too well in the room. The organ is completey >situated just to the right of the chancel (great, swell and choir are >all >there), so there's no "surround sound" here. The choir will not only >be >in the choir pews in front of the organ but also moving around the >church. >There are two side aisles and a center aisle, but I must avoid >blocking >anyone. The stone pillars run along the side aisles, and each has an >outlet. There's one pillar at the front pew right in front of the >organ, >so I was thinking of placing the mics there. > >Any helpful advice would be appreciated. > >Thank you very much, >-Adam > Adam,   What mics are you planning on using ? ? ?   Omni, Cartoid ?   what are the dimentions of the room ?     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: "Cavaille-Coll" at La Trinite in Paris From: markq@flex.com.au (Mark Quarmby) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:10:12 +1000   I have had many discussions with the organ curator of La Trinit=E9 and personal friend of Olivier Messiaen, Monsieur Olivier Glandaz. From what he has told me (and I'm relying on my memory), all the Cavaill=E9-Coll pipework has remained in the organ. Messiaen didn't want anything changed, only some new pipework added to give greater flexibility for his compositions (mostly mutations etc). I have some copies of letters Messiaen wrote to Glandaz at the time of the organ's restoration. Written in French and in Messiaen's own handwriting, he discusses some more additions he would have liked to have had. These never came to pass. From memory again, these included a 32' pedal reed and some chamades on the Grand Orgue. Messiaen highly respected the work of Cavaill=E9-Coll and was most concerned that in the restoration, the Cavaill=E9-Coll pipework be kept as close to its original voicing as was possible.   Mark Quarmby      
(back) Subject: Re:Assistant Organists From: markq@flex.com.au (Mark Quarmby) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:10:17 +1000   In the English system, the usual heirarchy is 1. Organist (who is really the Director or Minister of Music. His job is to select the music, plan the musical parts of the services, train the choir, and then conduct the choir. He rarely gets to play the organ, although he was most probably was an Assistant organist before graduating to the job of Organist. In Europe - Germanic countries - this position is usually called "Cantor".) 2. Assistant Organist (his job is to play the organ at most of the main services and to accompany the choir when the choir is present. Sometimes this position is known as the Sub Organist, as at St Paul's Cathedral, London; Westminster Abbey etc. In Europe, this position would be known as the Organist) 3. Deputy Organist (his job is to play the smaller services without choir and to deputise when the assistant is away). In some places, no.2 is expected to take over when no.1 is sick or away etc. These things can vary from place to place, but the above is generally the way things work in an English-type cathedral situation.   Cheers,   Mark Quarmby Assistant Organist, St Andrew's Cathedral, Sydney      
(back) Subject: Re: Sacre =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=A6ur?= , Paris From: markq@flex.com.au (Mark Quarmby) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:24:49 +1000   From what I have heard lately, Sacre Coeur has gone happy-clappy. For a long time the organ was not allowed to be played, except during services because the building is a house of prayer (24 hours per day). The only time recordings could be made there was on Good Friday when the building is closed. I'm told that organists there had to teach on an electronic. So, this may answer the question as to why someone would leave there to go to another Parisian church. I think I also heard that they weren't keen on his improvising there. The last time I attended a service there (about 3 years ago) a nun was singing in a microphone trying to lead the congregation. The organ postlude was a Buxtehude P & F played with en chamade reeds going on and off anywhere with nothing to do with the structure of the music (it was good to hear them though!)   Mark      
(back) Subject: Re: "Cavaille-Coll" at La Trinite in Paris From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:27:17 -0500   At 10:10 AM 11/18/98 +1000, Mark Quarmby wrote:   >I have had many discussions with the organ curator of La Trinit=E9 and >personal friend of Olivier Messiaen, Monsieur Olivier Glandaz. From what >he has told me (and I'm relying on my memory), all the Cavaill=E9-Coll >pipework has remained in the organ. Messiaen didn't want anything changed, >only some new pipework added to give greater flexibility for his >compositions (mostly mutations etc). I have some copies of letters >Messiaen wrote to Glandaz at the time of the organ's restoration. Written >in French and in Messiaen's own handwriting, he discusses some more >additions he would have liked to have had. These never came to pass. From >memory again, these included a 32' pedal reed and some chamades on the >Grand Orgue. Messiaen highly respected the work of Cavaill=E9-Coll and was >most concerned that in the restoration, the Cavaill=E9-Coll pipework be= kept >as close to its original voicing as was possible.   Which is probably one of the reasons why I like this CD so much! Naji Hakim makes the organ sound like a real Cavaille-Coll!   Thank you Mark for letting us know all this.   Bob Conway   Architecture, in general, is frozen music. Fredrich von Schelling, 1775 1854        
(back) Subject: Ivories From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:32:15 EST   "You'll wonder where the yellow went, when you brush your keys with Pepsodent"   Ho Ho Ho Ho ;-) Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: clean ivories From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:32:00 EST   Hey guys, Wm. G. Chapman asked us a simple question, and all he gets are cheesy answers. That's enough to curdle anyone's enthusiasm. Stan  
(back) Subject: Re: Recording concerts From: Adam and Christine Levin <levins@westnet.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:07:29 -0500 (EST)   On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Douglas A. Campbell wrote: > What mics are you planning on using ? ? ? > Omni, Cartoid ?   I've got a pair of Shure SM81 cardioid condenser mics. I understand these are hot stuff, and at this price they'd better be.   > what are the dimentions of the room ?   Oh, gosh, it's pretty big. Reverb is around 2 seconds, I'd guess, because of the ceiling tiles, but it's a big gothic church, almost cathedral sized.   -Adam      
(back) Subject: Re: clean ivories From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@MediaOne.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:36:31 -0500   KriderSM@aol.com wrote: > > Hey guys, > Wm. G. Chapman asked us a simple question, and all he gets are cheesy answers. > That's enough to curdle anyone's enthusiasm. > Stan >     Dear Other Stan, You're right. I'm not trying to butter you up, but some of your posts represent the cream of the crop. Even after milking it for two days, they still knock me on my dairy air.   Chet Terchies  
(back) Subject: OrganChat tonight! From: "W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:19:04 -0500   Anyone who is interested is invited to join organchat tonight on the pipechat IRC server at nine EST. Will Scarboro