PipeChat Digest #601 - Friday, November 20, 1998
 
Re: YYYYYYAAAAAAHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
HAPPY B-DAY, JASON
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Unions - Are Unions to Blame
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: Combination action
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Unions - Are Unions to Blame
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Unions - Are Unions to Blame
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net>
Re: Unions - Are Unions to Blame
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: Combination action
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: Combination action
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Unions - Are Unions to Blame
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
What are we debating here??? (was "Combination Pistons" or some such)
  by "Bud" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Wick vs. Schopp
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #598 - 11/18/98
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
No yahoo's yet!!
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: YYYYYYAAAAAAHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:57:30 -0500 (EST)   Well, Happy Birthday, Jason.   We would all sing to you, but there is a copyright dispute going on at the moment!! ;-)   Glad I was able to help. We can discuss commission later.... hehehehe   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     Anybody who doesn't know what soap tastes like never washed a dog. -- Franklin P. Jones    
(back) Subject: HAPPY B-DAY, JASON From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:06:43 -0500   JASON....I'll fire up the Mighty WurliTzer for you and we'll all sing along. Rick    
(back) Subject: Re: Unions - Are Unions to Blame From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:57:09 -0800   At 10:45 AM 11/19/98 -0600, Jon C. Habermaas wrote:   >I find messages like this disheartening because it shows how little >knowledge the average individual has of what labor unions are all about.<snip>   You tell 'em! 'Bout time someone else other than me did! heheh   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Combination action From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:00:07 -0500 (EST)   =A0 >Prelude, Processional Hymn, Introit, Kyrie and > Gloria are back to back; Offertory, Anthem > and Doxology are back to back; Communion, > Communion Anthem and Post-Communion > Hymn are back to back; Recessional Hymn, > Kneeling Hymn and Postlude are back to >back ... let's see ... that's 15 right there .. Ok ! been there... done that.... sans pistons. If's often helpful to at least leave space between these items. One of the positive effects of not having pistons is that it forces taking time to make changes preventing the service or literature from becoming rushed and mechanical.   > How many stops is the organ? Oops! Should have asked if it was real! ;-) If you're playing a computer you are welcomed to have all of the usual attachments availabe to make them work.   >No, but I defy you to play "In the Year That > King Uzziah Died" ( or "I Was Glad" or the > Oldroyd Mass) without a whole SLEW of > pistons. Dunnit! Uzziah on a 3/36 Austin. Someone else was directing.   >.....or the Davies Solemn Melody on this beast. ... all the time on my beast 2/21 and a 3/51 tracker   >And I DON'T play all the hymns or the parts of >the Mass on the same sounds, >Obviously this is a different style of > service-playing than what some may be > accustomed to, but no less legitimate ... Ah yes! Used to do this at the Cathedral in Houston (GDH A-S, 3/69), although I do confess to using 3 Swell pistons for the reeds   >The point is: the old-fashioned > romantic/orchestral style of registration and > service-playing requires a LOT of pistons. I disagree, and there are probably a fair number of organists in the UK who are used to this style, but which was played on large organs with far fewer pistons. I know several very fine cathedral organists who do this unassisted.     ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     Anybody who doesn't know what soap tastes like never washed a dog. -- Franklin P. Jones    
(back) Subject: Re: Unions - Are Unions to Blame From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:13:42 -0500 (EST)     >You tell 'em! 'Bout time someone else other > than me did! heheh Oh yeah, DB! Egg him on. You just want company next time your BOOTED!   hahahahahahahaha   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     Anybody who doesn't know what soap tastes like never washed a dog. -- Franklin P. Jones    
(back) Subject: Re: Unions - Are Unions to Blame From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:31:46 -0600   bruce cornely wrote: > > >You tell 'em! 'Bout time someone else other > > than me did! heheh > Oh yeah, DB! Egg him on. You just want company next time your > BOOTED! > Well Brucie,   If I'm not careful I could find myself in far worse company that deserTbob...   present company included (hehe)   jch  
(back) Subject: Re: Unions - Are Unions to Blame From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:53:10 -0800   At 08:13 PM 11/19/98 -0500, bruce cornely wrote:   >Oh yeah, DB! Egg him on. You just want company next time your >BOOTED! =20   >:-=DE    
(back) Subject: Re: Combination action From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:47:57 -0500   I too do not use pistons even though they are available, prefer to hand-change stops. However I do not generally play recitals, and if I did, would definitely use pistons/generals if available, rather than rely on someone else to change stops for me unless absolutely necessary. And I prefer playing trackers! Judy Ollikkala  
(back) Subject: Re: Combination action From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:00:08 -0600 (CST)   At 05:08 PM 11/19/98 -0500, Bruce Cornely wrote:   >How do I live with 5 measly generals >for 17 stops?   The organ in our church, Aeolian-Skinner op. 979, has two manuals and pedals, 8 stops and 9 ranks (+ 9 couplers & a trem.) It is extremely loud and impressive and practically blasts people out of the building. It is also very versatile and extremely beautiful, especially with the 4 secs. of reverberation there is in the building. Nobody including me can believe it isn't at least 50 ranks. Emerson Richards (in *The American Organist* for October 1948) described it as "the biggest little organ in the world." It has no pistons whatsoever except that it does have a reversible toe piston for "Full Organ" and a stop Crescendo Pedal. There are three of us in the church who play the organ -- Cindy the "Titulaire", Kim and me. None of us ever use the stop Crescendo Pedal. Cindy never uses the Trem. We all sometimes use the Sforz. but otherwise we do all our registration by hand, which is not difficult as the organ is so small. We sometimes wish there was a General Cancel, which would save pushing in the stops at the end of the service, but otherwise are quite happy without pistons. The problem with most organs is that they are too big and not very well designed. This is why they need pistons.   John.    
(back) Subject: Re: Unions - Are Unions to Blame From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:26:24 -0500 (EST)       >If I'm not careful I could find myself in far > worse company that deserTbob... >present company included (hehe) We really must get a gathering organized!!   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     Anybody who doesn't know what soap tastes like never washed a dog. -- Franklin P. Jones    
(back) Subject: What are we debating here??? (was "Combination Pistons" or some such) From: Bud <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:13:17 -0800   I'm a little lost ... what are we arguing about?   When the time comes, I will choose to design or rebuild a romantic organ with as many couplers and pistons and levels of memory and adjustable trems and solo and bass couplers and whatever else comes with the solid-state package as the traffic will bear. I play that kind of service, and I find it easiest to play that kind of service with the full array of registrational aids, since I am choirmaster and organist and have neither page-turner(s), stop assistant(s), assistant conductor(s) or accompanist(s).   If I wanted a germanic tracker with no registrational aids, I would have one, although goodness only knows how I'd play an Anglican service without "Full Swell to Reeds"; or Benediction of the Most Blessed Sacrament without massed celeste strings at 16-8-4 and a Harmonic Flute to solo out "O Sacrum Convivium" or "O Quam Suavis Est"; or chimes to introduce the Kneeling Hymn. Yes, I know, that kind of service playing is much despised these days ... so what? I choose to practice it; my Rector and Vestry and congregation like it VERY much; my salary has tripled in under two years.   Regards,   Bud Clark    
(back) Subject: Wick vs. Schopp From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:33:02 -0600   gregory@mke.earthreach.com wrote: > > We just had Schopp Sons, Inc build a new hooded tuba for our > Skinner/Moller. Their work is excellent. I am sure they can revoice > work previously done by a company located in HIghland, Ill.   I, personally, would send it back to Highland, and tell them what I want, and let them do it. Although, Schopp's is a great place as well! You MIGHT get a better deal sending Wicks pipes back to the factory...   krc        
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #598 - 11/18/98 From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:33:51 -0600   WRansomeJr@aol.com wrote: > Good idea-- we had a Flugel Horn on the Skinner in my home church back in > Alabama, and it was wonderful. We'll see.   Where in Alabama??   krc        
(back) Subject: No yahoo's yet!! From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:02:16 -0600   Jason D. Comet wrote: > > YYYAAAHHHOOOOOO!!!   Don't get too happy-clappy yet. I WANT a trumpet en chamede, but that doesn't mean enough people at church are willing, or interested enough, to pay for it... After all, we have water gushing through the roof every time it rains...so organ additions are not in the near future. We also need new chimes, but there is no money... However, organ *service* is a priority to the church council, so that's a good thing. I instilled a little of that sinful "pride" by "blowing them away" once during a meeting.   I'd concentrate on my own organ, and my job that pays for it all. But, if your church is completely comittee FREE, that's a different story!   Anyway, ruining the day, whoooraaay,   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com   Send complaints to:   Hell Lower Level Fiery Pit #24 Box 1229 D   Telephone: N/A E-Mail: N/A Fax: N/A