PipeChat Digest #614 - Saturday, November 28, 1998
 
Re: console spec.
  by "Greg McAusland" <gregorymca@pavilion.co.uk>
Re: Co-existing pipe organs
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
acoustics
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: ``Orgelwerke'' December listings
  by "Cliff Benham" <cbenham@bellatlantic.net>
Re: Co-existing pipe organs
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Organ Website with Sound (x-posted)
  by "W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net>
Re: Curley/Hazelton Recital Nov. 29
  by "John (Jack) Cormack" <jackjack@erols.com>
Re: Organ Website with Sound (x-posted)
  by "Roger Pariseau" <grinder@west.net>
Re: Bach and 32'
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinel@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Curley/Hazelton Recital Nov. 29
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
[Theatreorgans-L] Organ Revival and Searhing for Conn info
  by "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com>
Re: Co-existing pipe organs
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: Co-existing pipe organs
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: [Theatreorgans-L] Organ Revival and Searhing for Conn info
  by "jstuart" <jstuart1@pdq.net>
(no subject)
  by "jstuart" <jstuart1@pdq.net>
Advent Organ music
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Advent Organ music
  by "j nathan" <jnatpat@sunsix.infi.net>
Re: Advent Organ music
  by "Bud" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Advent music
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Organ Website with Sound (x-posted)
  by "Aida van de Brake" <Celeste@cable.A2000.nl>
Re: (no subject)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: Advent music
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: Advent music
  by <Afreed0904@aol.com>
Re: Advent music
  by <WRansomeJr@aol.com>
RE: Advent music
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
Estey Organ, 2/13/ Bourne, Ma. Methodist Church
  by <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw>
Re: Co-existing pipe organs
  by <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw>
RE: Music for Advent
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Peaceful co-existance
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Old church and lighthouse
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: console spec.
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: console spec. From: Greg McAusland <gregorymca@pavilion.co.uk> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:58:50 -0000   Isn't his an example of where electronic or 'pipeless' organs will gain = a big advantage over pipe organs in the future with the ability to = incorporate different tuning temperaments and embrace various schools of = organ building within one single console.   I'm also looking forward to the time when I shall be able to accompany = services in a number of churches at the same time from a remote control = console and a camera surveillence system from the comfort of my living = room. And if I was just a little too tired to perform the Liszt - = Prelude & Fugue on B.A.C.H. I would just have to press 'auto-play' and = hey presto it would play by itself. My bank account automatically being = credited the fees from each church via electronic means at the end of = each service.   Just think of it: no annoying old dears chatting through your = meticulously prepared Voluntary, no freezing organ lofts, no boring = sermons (you could just turn down the sound) and the best bit - the = Trumpet-en-Chamade rank doubles as a high pressure water cannon that can = be aimed at naughty choir boys if they dont sing up!   What bliss . . . .  
(back) Subject: Re: Co-existing pipe organs From: dougcampbell@juno.com (Douglas A. Campbell) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:58:34 EST     On Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:03:16 -0500 "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> writes: >Going up and down the street to hear different organ sounds is what I >try >to do on my organ crawls.   Dear Judy,   While you're "crawling around..." I would suggest that you try the organ at the Methodist Church in Bourne, MA. (on the Cape Cod Canal)   Let me know what you think !     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: acoustics From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:09:44 -0500   Hmmm... The ground-floor area in a parking garage sounds tempting. A firehouse is even better in case the blower or rectifier starts smokin'. Our little country church (Christian) where I'm putting in the 2/4 Wicks, has a community room annex recently built. Even with carpeting, the reverberation goes on forever- high A-frame roof. A classic example of good(?) acousitics was the old Chicago Stadium. That barn had a 6/56 Barton T O installed in the roof rafters with tone chutes directing sound. When the stadium was empty, the sound ran together so much that one had to be careful NOT to play too fast. Acoustics can be a blessing AND a bain for organs. Rick    
(back) Subject: Re: ``Orgelwerke'' December listings From: Cliff Benham <cbenham@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:04:22 -0500   Anyone know if this program is "broadcast" over the 'net?    
(back) Subject: Re: Co-existing pipe organs From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:45:03 -0500   To Douglas Campbell, I have not been in that church, will give it a looksee sometime. What I have listed is: Methoeist Church, Bourne MA Original organ Estey 1913 Opus 1149, 2 M., now has ?John Sole c1900 with 1860's pipes, rebuilt by John Bishop. Do you have any other info.? Assume this is a tracker, the Estey may have been a tubular. Which side of the canal is it on?  
(back) Subject: Organ Website with Sound (x-posted) From: "W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:31:33 -0500   Hey Everyone,   Go and check out this site! Its really cool!!     http://www.lares.dti.ne.jp/~jubal/swm/swm-e.html     Its the site for a concert hall organ in Japan built last year by Austin. It has a whole concert on Real Audio! The sound is quite good and the organ is amazing. When I saw the stoplist I nearly fell out of the chair! Three Great Diapasons, a String Organ, a Fanfair with three Tubas, two Open Wood Diapasons in the Pedal, and much more!! Go Check it Out!!   Sincerely,   Will Scarboro ************************************************************** Will Scarboro--Organ Historian American Municipal Pipe Organ Research Project Organist, Pineda Presbyterian Church-Melbourne, FL 1996 OHS E. Power Biggs Fellow **************************************************************    
(back) Subject: Re: Curley/Hazelton Recital Nov. 29 From: "John (Jack) Cormack" <jackjack@erols.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:51:58 -0500   At 07:48 PM 11/27/98 EST, you wrote: >FYI -- from the Washington Post: >Carlo Curley and Tom Hazelton will apear on Sunday, Nov. 29 at Vienna >Presbyterian Church, 124 Park St. NE, Vienna, Va. The program features the >church's 3-manual Schantz and an Allen Renaissance Organ. Admission free. For >directions (703) 938-9050. =================================================== I called the number but they were closed from Thursday, Thanksgiving, until Monday, Nov. 30. So I could not find out the time of the recital. Please advise the time. I can find the church, I don't need directions.   Sincerely,   Jack Cormack Potomac, Maryland ====================================================         >Also noted: J. Peterman is offering "The Original Yankee Stadium Organ with >Bench" for $7500. From the illustration, it appears to be a Hammond with >drawbars and stop tabs of some sort. > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Website with Sound (x-posted) From: Roger Pariseau <grinder@west.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:43:47 -0800   "W. Scarboro" wrote:   > Go and check out this site! Its really cool!! > > http://www.lares.dti.ne.jp/~jubal/swm/swm-e.html > > Its the site for a concert hall organ in Japan built > last year by Austin.   Well worth the trip! The concert hall and organ sit in a town of 42,000 souls. Must have an entirely different perspective from us! Along with all the other things Shiroishi-City is doing, seems their politicians are actually leaders too. Refreshingly different. Perhaps we could learn something from them?!   -- Roger  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach and 32' From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinel@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:12:37 -0000   >At 07:29 PM 11/25/98 -0500, WRansomeJr@aol.com wrote: No he didn't, rpinel@theatreorgans.com did :-) >>> Secondly, JSB probably wouldn't have had any 32 foots at all, so it is not >>> stylistic to use them for his works (but then......not everybody >listens to >>> style!!!). > > Oh, but he just loved 32' stops! He recommended the addition of a 32' >Subbass to the pedal of the organ at St. Blasius in Mulhausen. During his >visit to Buxtehude in Lubeck, he was particularly impressed with the 32' >Principal and 24' (sic) Gros-Posaune in St. Mary's. > There'd be nothing wrong with using a 32' in Bach, assuming the character >of the music demands it. I wouldn't use it for the pedal solo in BWV 564 >because it would weigh things down too much, but the famous "dracula" chord >in the opening of BWV 565 seems to cry out for a 32' plenum.     I stand corrected!!!!   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: Curley/Hazelton Recital Nov. 29 From: DudelK@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:09:34 EST   sorry . . . . it's at 3 o'clock.  
(back) Subject: [Theatreorgans-L] Organ Revival and Searhing for Conn info From: "Sean Haley" <newgershwin@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:25:08 PST   Hello list,   After spending several months and countless hours on the net, I have finally found a place to get parts and what-not for my Gulbransen Rialto II. Fortunately the place is local, an added bonus. With any luck I will have the beast fully functional by Christmas. Now to those of you who are Conn lovers... I am thinking of purchasing a 3-manual 653. Could anyone give me a detailed specification of these remarkable machines? Any and all information will be greatly appreciated. Best wishes,   _____ | | Sean M. Haley / NWOrganer | | Organist,Pianist,Composer,Piano/Organ Tech. () ()..Co-Creator of Theatreorgans-L.......() () .........<newgershwin@hotmail.com............| | .............................................|___|     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Co-existing pipe organs From: dougcampbell@juno.com (Douglas A. Campbell) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:41:35 EST     On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:45:03 -0500 "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> writes: >To Douglas Campbell, I have not been in that church, will give it a >looksee >sometime. What I have listed is: Methoeist Church, Bourne MA >Original organ Estey 1913 Opus 1149, 2 M., now has ?John Sole c1900 >with >1860's pipes, rebuilt by John Bishop. Do you have any other info.? >Assume >this is a tracker, the Estey may have been a tubular. Which side of >the >canal is it on? > Dear Judy,   It is a 1890 John Sole (Procured through OCH), rebuilt by John Bishop. It is tracker action throughout. II/13 (or14?). It has reused at least one rank from the Estey, an E. M. Skinner mixture and a Hook rank.   It is porbably the finest "small" organ I've ever heard.   Bourne is on the "mainland" side.     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Co-existing pipe organs From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:07:14 -0500   Thanks Douglas Campbell, I was in RI today but not close enough. I have friends, the Zwickys who have a house in Buzzards Bay, they can probably get me in to the Methodist Church in Bourne MA  
(back) Subject: Re: [Theatreorgans-L] Organ Revival and Searhing for Conn info From: jstuart <jstuart1@pdq.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:58:07 -0600   please unsubscribe me from this list     Sean Haley wrote:   > Hello list, > > After spending several months and countless hours on the net, I have > finally found a place to get parts and what-not for my Gulbransen Rialto > II. Fortunately the place is local, an added bonus. With any luck I > will have the beast fully functional by Christmas. > Now to those of you who are Conn lovers... I am thinking of purchasing > a 3-manual 653. Could anyone give me a detailed specification of these > remarkable machines? Any and all information will be greatly > appreciated. > Best wishes, > > _____ > | | Sean M. Haley / NWOrganer > | | Organist,Pianist,Composer,Piano/Organ Tech. > () ()..Co-Creator of Theatreorgans-L.......() () > ........<newgershwin@hotmail.com............| | > ............................................|___| > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: (no subject) From: jstuart <jstuart1@pdq.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:01:36 -0600   please unsubscribe me from this list.      
(back) Subject: Advent Organ music From: ScottFop@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:06:12 EST   Does anyone have suggestions for Advent preludes and postludes? I am so tired of the same old thing year after year. What do some of you play each year?   Scott F. Foppiano, Director of Music and Liturgical Coordinator Natiopnal Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI  
(back) Subject: Re: Advent Organ music From: j nathan <jnatpat@sunsix.infi.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:21:59 -0600   ScottFop@aol.com wrote: > > Does anyone have suggestions for Advent preludes and postludes? I am so tired > of the same old thing year after year. What do some of you play each year? >   Hi Scott... Two of my recent additions to my library are the books called "Choralewerks" by Gerald Near. They are miniature liturgical year type books with imaginative settings of a couple Advent Hymns...and the books by Robin Dinda..Cant remember the title, but one is just Advent settings and the other is Christmas settings. Many are short and make great hymn introductions, or mini-suites when coupled together. Of course, It just isn't Advent for me without the Paul Manz setting of Hyfrydol. On the other hand...share with us some of your tired pieces, because chances are they might be fresh to us! Just my .02!   Happy Advent 1!   J Nathan Patton St Peter's of the Lakes Episcopal First United Methodist Benton, Ky  
(back) Subject: Re: Advent Organ music From: Bud <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:29:44 -0800       ScottFop@aol.com wrote:   > Does anyone have suggestions for Advent preludes and postludes? I am so tired > of the same old thing year after year. What do some of you play each year? > > Scott F. Foppiano, Director of Music and Liturgical Coordinator > Natiopnal Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI >   Hi, Scott!   Call Pepper Music (or somebody) and have them do a search on "Rorate caeli" ... there are any number of things. Also, WLSM used to publish a book called "Organ Postludes on All the Deo gratias's" ... which of course included the Mass of the Virgin and the Mass for Advent and Lent. Then there's the Langlais Ave Maria / Ave maris stella for the 4th Sunday. I play all three of the Bach Nun komm preludes, but I use the alternative second one in the back of the book that puts the cf in the pedals and the running bass part in the left hand ... do you know the Reger Chorale Preludes of Op. 100? There's some stuff in there.   With that gorgeous Kilgen organ, how about some Vierne and Widor symphony movements?   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Advent music From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:30:43 -0500   For the offering, I always play "Pennys From Heaven". Goes over real well. "Put Another Nickel In"... they're on to that one.    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Website with Sound (x-posted) From: Aida van de Brake <Celeste@cable.A2000.nl> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 02:37:59 +0100   W.Scarboro wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > > Go and check out this site! Its really cool!! > > http://www.lares.dti.ne.jp/~jubal/swm/swm-e.html > > Its the site for a concert hall organ in Japan built > last year by Austin. >   Am I very wrong, if I say Mr.Scarboro's is erring a bit here? I thought it was Mr. Toku Ohbayashi's company Jubal Ltd. who built the organ - it's Jubal's site, you know. Toku, as I understood from Carlo, did much study on European organs and especially on American symphonic organs, which resulted in a Japanese company specialized in symphonic organ building.   The company's homesite: http://www.lares.dti.ne.jp/~jubal/home-e.html     Aida van de Brake, Zaandam, Holland.   P.S. I found a technical blue-print that say it actually was Mr. Ohbayashi who designed (and built?) the organ: http://www.lares.dti.ne.jp/~jubal/swm/img/toest.gif  
(back) Subject: Re: (no subject) From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:03:48 -0800   YO! Can you READ? Take a look at the BOTTOM on this message!!!!   At 06:01 PM 11/28/98 -0600, jstuart wrote: >please unsubscribe me from this list. > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Advent music From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:28:43 -0800   At 07:30 PM 11/28/98 -0500, VEAGUE wrote: >For the offering, I always play "Pennys From Heaven". Goes over real well. >"Put Another Nickel In"... they're on to that one.   ROFLMAO!!!!!    
(back) Subject: Re: Advent music From: Afreed0904@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:06:36 EST     In a message dated 11.28.98 9:20:21 PM, desertbob@truelink.net writes:   <<ROFLMAO!!!!! >>   Robert, you naughty person!   Alan!  
(back) Subject: Re: Advent music From: WRansomeJr@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:12:24 EST   I know this isn't "advent" but do you guys know the Allen Orton Gibbs setting of Holst's "In the Bleak Midwinter?" I think it is published by Morning Star, but not sure. I have only seen a manuscript, but it is an absolutely wonderful setting. Well worth playing in Church or concert.   Randy  
(back) Subject: RE: Advent music From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 20:26:15 -0700   > > Robert, you naughty person! > > Alan!   This guy has long hair and rides a Harley to churches to practice classical organ, and you're suprised he's a bit unconventional? Desert Bob is a true western classic!   Dennis    
(back) Subject: Estey Organ, 2/13/ Bourne, Ma. Methodist Church From: flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:43:53 +0800 (CST)   If anyone can come up with the stoplist of that Estey organ, I would be pleased to receive it.   E-mail to me directly, please at flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw   Best wishes to all....       Morton Belcher           On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Judy A. Ollikkala wrote:   > To Douglas Campbell, I have not been in that church, will give it a looksee > sometime. What I have listed is: Methoeist Church, Bourne MA > Original organ Estey 1913 Opus 1149, 2 M., now has ?John Sole c1900 with > 1860's pipes, rebuilt by John Bishop. Do you have any other info.? Assume > this is a tracker, the Estey may have been a tubular. Which side of the > canal is it on? > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Co-existing pipe organs From: flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:47:24 +0800 (CST)   Would someone be good enough to send me (or post) the specs of this John Sole organ as it now stands?   E-mail to me at flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw   Best wishes to all...     Morton Belcher           On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Douglas A. Campbell wrote:   > > On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:45:03 -0500 "Judy A. Ollikkala" > <71431.2534@compuserve.com> writes: > >To Douglas Campbell, I have not been in that church, will give it a > >looksee > >sometime. What I have listed is: Methoeist Church, Bourne MA > >Original organ Estey 1913 Opus 1149, 2 M., now has ?John Sole c1900 > >with > >1860's pipes, rebuilt by John Bishop. Do you have any other info.? > >Assume > >this is a tracker, the Estey may have been a tubular. Which side of > >the > >canal is it on? > > > Dear Judy, > > It is a 1890 John Sole (Procured through OCH), rebuilt by John Bishop. It > is tracker action throughout. II/13 (or14?). It has reused at least one > rank from the Estey, an E. M. Skinner mixture and a Hook rank. > > It is porbably the finest "small" organ I've ever heard. > > Bourne is on the "mainland" side. > > > Douglas A. Campbell > Skaneateles, NY > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: RE: Music for Advent From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:33:45 -0600 (CST)   Scott Foppiano asks about organ repertoire for Advent. I have a couple of suggestions that may help.=20   One is by Jeanne Demessieux, and is found in "Twelve Choral Preludes on Gregorian Chant Themes for Organ." Summy-Birchard Music, 1995, distributed by Warner Bros. ISBN 0874876036. No. 1 of these choral preludes is a very nice *Choral orn=E9* on the Advent Prose, "Rorate Caeli."   Another suggestion is Alexis Chauvet, "Organ N=F6els for the Time of Christmas," edited by Carolyn Shuster. St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1994. Catalog no. 97-6301. The first four pieces in this collection of nine N=F6els are for the four Sundays of Advent.   Both these volumes also contain good stuff for other seasons too. Hoping this helps,   Kind regards,   John. =20 =20 =20    
(back) Subject: Re: Peaceful co-existance From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:57:55 -0500 (EST)   >I happen to know from experience that a > celeste is not necessarry... However, It is a > stop that is called for in almost all "church" > literature. I know of very little "church" literature where celestes are called for, with the exception of contemporary chorale preludes where celestes are assumed. To what church literature are you referring? (out of curiosity)   > I just happen to think for the "average" church > extreams of voicing style should be avoided! Even the Rev. Moody didn't believe in the conservative please-all approach, indicated by his reply when someone asked if he was a middle-of-the-road Christian, "The only things in the middle of the road are broken yellow lines and dead oppossums."   >I am not recommending that all new organs > need to be English replicas, but I do think > they need to do justice to a broad range of > literature. Right there you are creating the necessity for a large instrument, so the non-rich church would be inclined to go with an imitation which can "supposedly" do justice to alot of literature, while actually doing injustice to all.   > My feeling is that we also need to consider > that we are not the only person that will ever > play the instruments in our churches, and we > need to think whether or not "our own dream > instrument" will scare off future perspective > organists for whatever reason. An organ cannot be designed with integrity to please everyone who might apply for the position in the future. The greatest legacy that you can leave is a fine pipe organ designed with integrity in whatever style, so that future generations can LEARN from it. I have learned so much from instruments which forced ME to conform and learn, and I'm thankful for the people who had the fortitude to provide me with that opportunity. I have also seen placed were the church would have been much better off, had the organist been scared off by the organ. A good organist with experience, learn and grow with whatever instrument is there (without changing it unless it is flawed).   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     No one appreciates the very special genius of your conversation as a dog does. -- Christopher Morley    
(back) Subject: Re: Old church and lighthouse From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:02:06 -0500 (EST)   >And Bruce, the best acoustics are on the > bottom floor of parking garages. My kids > found that out. Actually, I've heard some rather amazing acoustics in some Baptist Churches; um, actually in the back stairwells of the educational buildings! hehehe   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     No one appreciates the very special genius of your conversation as a dog does. -- Christopher Morley    
(back) Subject: Re: console spec. From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:16:07 -0500 (EST)     >Isn't this an example of where electronic or >pipeless' organs will gain a big advantage over > pipe organs in the future with the ability to > incorporate different tuning temperaments > and embrace various schools of organ > building within one single console. The operative word here being "console", there being no "organ." The advantages of being able to have various temperaments & schools of voicing is that it is ALL fake, and you will have to listen to it for the life of the machine, or until you decide that the "real McCoy" of any size is superior.   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o d o g s ______________ o o h o o a o o ______________ o o p s   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     No one appreciates the very special genius of your conversation as a dog does. -- Christopher Morley